Armagh Club football & hurling

Unknown · September 06, 2009, 03:03:21 PM

I reckon granemore will beat st pats by 4 points.. The ogs seem to have the ryt frame of mind at the moment.. Well most of them do!! Suposedly away to a spa retreat today for relaxation, altho I'm not sure if the whole panel will attend as I'm sure any Armagh person nos there are a few of the lads like to celebrate it will be there downfall if they have treated there win as there championship final!!

yellowcard · September 06, 2009, 03:06:31 PM

Well done to the Ogs on putting an end to the run of consecutie county titles from the greatest club team ever. I thought it was a good game of football and proved that it doesn't take a bucketload of scores to make for a good contest. Ogs were cleaned out at midfield but there full back line was outstanding and their strong running and support play tore the Cross defence apart on occasion. I thought the referee had a great game and whilst the Ogs were refused a stone wall penalty and a baffling disallowed point he was at least consistent overall.

I think what is evident from a Cross point of view is that whilst they have a lot of talented younger players they will not have the mental toughness and leadershp of the likes of McEntees, Bellew, Donaldson, McConville etc. These men were the cornerstone of the team and will not be replaced easily. The McEntees and Clarke were probably Cross's best players yesterday and too many of the younger lads huffed and puffed. I've seen Tony Kernan oftn enough now to believe that he is not a county standard footballer.

When the chips were down and Ogs needed a score it was Clarke who came up with the goods and it was he who showed true leadership when it was needed. Hopefully now the Ogs will go on and win it and if they keep their feet on the ground there is no club left with the players to beat them.

Unknown · September 06, 2009, 03:11:44 PM

The only kernan that is county standard is aaron... The rest of them r only on the county sqaud because their father still has a big say!! Stephen kernan is tottally useless can't make cross team but is still a "county player"

Onion Bag · September 06, 2009, 03:46:33 PM

the teams left in the c'ship,

div 1: Pearse Ogs, St Pats, Clan Na Gael,

div 2: Granemore, Whitecross, Clan Eireann, Harps,

the gulf aint that big between the divisions, and i expect The Ogs to be the only Div 1 team left after all the Q/F are played

Unknown · September 06, 2009, 04:15:47 PM

Harps v Ogs final this year... Will be brilliant for Armagh! Altho I defo think the harps can take the championship this year!! Cheated out of it last year against cross.. Armagh Harps senior champions???

Throw ball · September 06, 2009, 04:28:13 PM

I believe Stephen Kernan was injured and not togged out. He had a knee operation earlier in the year.

Although I do not believe the 4 Kernans are good enough to start for the county some of the criticism they get is unwarranted. When Cross were in the All Ireland series last year three of them still made themselves available for Armagh for a couple of games - while other players have not in the past. Also when Armagh last won the Ulster under 21 title Tony Kernan made himself available for the first round game against Tyrone, got injured and missed the All Ireland club final. Their commitment cannot be questioned. I also thought that Paul Kernan played well last night when he was on Ronan Clarke.

yellowcard · September 06, 2009, 04:29:48 PM

I think Harps are probably the only team left who could trouble Ogs on their day. However if The Ogs bring their 'A' game it will not matter because player for player they are well ahead of the rest.

yellowcard · September 06, 2009, 04:35:27 PM

Quote from: Throw ball on September 06, 2009, 04:28:13 PM
I believe Stephen Kernan was injured and not togged out. He had a knee operation earlier in the year.

Although I do not believe the 4 Kernans are good enough to start for the county some of the criticism they get is unwarranted. When Cross were in the All Ireland series last year three of them still made themselves available for Armagh for a couple of games - while other players have not in the past. Also when Armagh last won the Ulster under 21 title Tony Kernan made himself available for the first round game against Tyrone, got injured and missed the All Ireland club final. Their commitment cannot be questioned. I also thought that Paul Kernan played well last night when he was on Ronan Clarke.

Would agree, his committment is not in question and he is obviously a decent player just that I haven't seen enough to suggest that he is county standard. Paul had an ok game last night and even though Clarke had a good game PK done as well as anyone could be expected.

Family guy · September 06, 2009, 04:43:30 PM

Lads did johnny murtagh play for cross or was he a sub,he left the states last week to go home?

Unknown · September 06, 2009, 04:44:37 PM

I think the harps are a far better side than any1 left in championship.. We have not seen the full harps side yet and feel they may have a few surprises up their sleeves!! A better attitude and bigger numbers at the trainings and matches I have watched the past number of weeks since the SACKING of nudie Hughes..

fitzroyalty · September 06, 2009, 04:48:10 PM

Would agree Harps will have a huge say in the qfs and an Ogs/Harps final is a huge possibility, probably the two strongest teams left in the championship. That said, the remaining teams will still all fancy their chances

Smokin Joe · September 06, 2009, 05:04:51 PM

Quote from: Family guy on September 06, 2009, 04:43:30 PM
Lads did johnny murtagh play for cross or was he a sub,he left the states last week to go home?

He came on very late.

Family guy · September 06, 2009, 05:18:53 PM

hes back out here to play in the semi final then,no worries about having to go home for a semi with cross lol

ardmhachaabu · September 06, 2009, 05:23:09 PM

Well done ogs

Some shocking decisions by the ref, some really cynical play by some Cross players and some Ogs supporters acted like arseholes, screaming abuse at cross players - no call for that

IVEDECIDED · September 06, 2009, 05:28:03 PM

Quote from: Onlooker on September 06, 2009, 12:59:38 PM
What an achievement by Cross to win 13 County titles in a row and 4 All Irelands. Unbeaten in the Armagh Championship since 1995 is unbelievable and will never be equalled in any county IMO. But it is always great to see new teams winning titles and it will be interesting to see how the new Armagh Champions fare in the Ulster Club Championship.

Listen lads all this talk about records not being equalled is bullshit - it will take a super human effort but how in the name of god do you people know what will happen in the future in all counties. Ballina have done it before and other teasm such as eire og and nemo have been dominant so noone knows if it will be equalled. It happened so its possible it could happen again. If you had said in 96 that cros wouldnt be beat till 09 you would have been committed!!