Armagh Club football & hurling

[Rufus T Firefly]

my take on it would've been that Kelly went down very easily and there wasn't a lot of intentional contact. I don't think Francie is the type to be throwing punches like that, even if he was up to a few of his other dark tricks today. 

In the incident between Francie and Kelly, I think Kelly hooked Francie's arm, Francie threw the elbow back to free himself and Kelly fell like a Tyrone man. 

Right so. The whole Kelly family, including Kevin, are personal friends of mine. I was talking to Kevin tonight, and he is sporting a serious shiner. How he got this is backed up by the video evidence that we watched in the Harps Club tonight!   

I am not coming on here looking retribution against any one individual! This is Championship football, and this is what happens. However, I will not let a personal friend of mine have his character assissinated with implications of diving. If necessary I will put my own name to what I have said here and see if others follow suit!   

[Final Whistle]

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Quote from: BenDover on October 05, 2008, 06:49:25 PM
heard there was a bit of controversy at the end of the Harps game (app the harps were robbed!!!) anyone care to elaborate? wasn't at the match myself


Joe Quigley had a 14 yard free - it was goal or nothing. Joe hit the shot, it deflected off a defender and over the line. I'm not sure, but the deflection may be the key here, as the ref blew for full time before the ball had crossed but after Joe had shot.

actually there are grounds for an appeal here. reference-tyrone underage game where the exact thing happened. appeal was lodged and accepted.

[Handy]

my take on it would've been that Kelly went down very easily and there wasn't a lot of intentional contact. I don't think Francie is the type to be throwing punches like that, even if he was up to a few of his other dark tricks today. 

In the incident between Francie and Kelly, I think Kelly hooked Francie's arm, Francie threw the elbow back to free himself and Kelly fell like a Tyrone man. 

Right so. The whole Kelly family, including Kevin, are personal friends of mine. I was talking to Kevin tonight, and he is sporting a serious shiner. How he got this is backed up by the video evidence that we watched in the Harps Club tonight!   

I am not coming on here looking retribution against any one individual! This is Championship football, and this is what happens. However, I will not let a personal friend of mine have his character assissinated with implications of diving. If necessary I will put my own name to what I have said here and see if others follow suit!   

I saw the incident first hand - I could not believe the umpire didn't - someone beside me summed it up when he said - there isn't a official in the county will stand up to Cross.

[umgolaarmagh]

I saw the incident first hand - I could not believe the umpire didn't - someone beside me summed it up when he said - there isn't a official in the county will stand up to Cross.
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UNFORTUNATELY, tis is so true and any one who trys and dispute this is either blind or a cross man,

im sure the cross ones on the board will agree that they have been gifted some decisions by refs down through the years as well as having a great team

[corn02]

It is unfortuante and although it woild not make much difference in most games they have got more than their fair share of favourable decisions from referees and a certain linesman. But, as I said, I can think of a Dromintee match were a big decision was not acted on as the linesman was afraifd that would have influenced the game and yesterdays goal (if it was as BBC are claiming). Other games it would not make a bit of difference.

[pintsofguinness]

I saw the incident first hand - I could not believe the umpire didn't - someone beside me summed it up when he said - there isn't a official in the county will stand up to Cross.

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UNFORTUNATELY, tis is so true and any one who trys and dispute this is either blind or a cross man,

im sure the cross ones on the board will agree that they have been gifted some decisions by refs down through the years as well as having a great team


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I think it's something you could extend to county players.

[illdecide]

Just goes to show how poor clanns where/are.

On another note Congrats to Cross and OG's and unlucky Harps and Killeavey...I hear they were 2 good games, unfortunately i couldn't make it up to the games...

[goh4205]

I was at the game, but i was to far away from the incident to see properly.  but what in will say is the Harps peno what charing offence & the goal they got was clearly a push in the back by the no.15. adding to that John McEntee was clearly pushed out over the line which lead to the goal & Tony McEntee has a nice shiner for his troubles after been hit off the ball. Also when did it become legal to allow a 4 man tackle?  I lost count the amount of times Harps were allowed to get away with this.  As for the Francie incident I was talking to a mate who was right behind the goals and seem what happened, the No.13 had been goading Francie for most of the 2nd half and he locked arms with Francie trying to get him to pull him down to get him booked & Francie just pushed him away & he fell.  So the point is cross don't get it all there own way when it comes to refs. regarding a re-fixture if i were Harps I keep wondering of the what if, because if there was to be a reply they would get shown up bigtime as has happened in replays before.

[corn02]

I was at the game, but i was to far away from the incident to see properly.  but what in will say is the Harps peno what charing offence & the goal they got was clearly a push in the back by the no.15. adding to that John McEntee was clearly pushed out over the line which lead to the goal & Tony McEntee has a nice shiner for his troubles after been hit off the ball. Also when did it become legal to allow a 4 man tackle?  I lost count the amount of times Harps were allowed to get away with this.  As for the Francie incident I was talking to a mate who was right behind the goals and seem what happened, the No.13 had been goading Francie for most of the 2nd half and he locked arms with Francie trying to get him to pull him down to get him booked & Francie just pushed him away & he fell.  So the point is cross don't get it all there own way when it comes to refs. regarding a re-fixture if i were Harps I keep wondering of the what if, because if there was to be a reply they would get shown up bigtime as has happened in replays before.

Probabably shows that most incidents even themselves out.

[bennydorano]

 As for the Francie incident I was talking to a mate who was right behind the goals and seem what happened, the No.13 had been goading Francie for most of the 2nd half and he locked arms with Francie trying to get him to pull him down to get him booked & Francie just pushed him away & he fell.  

There's video evidence to the contrary friendo.  Goading?  If you knew the fella you'd realise how laughable that is.  Hate to drop to pettiness but maybe the fact that Bellew never won a ball all day was frustrating him.

[Onion Bag]

Was the Intermediate Semi Between The Bridge and Culloville played this weekend, How did it go?

[corn02]

called off - rain.

[BerfArmagh]

Good second half performance from the Harps yesterday, if only they had of believed in themselves more in the first half.

The last 15 minutes there was only 1 team in it. Mc Kenna came on and made a wonderful catch to secure possession when the game was in the balance. I thought Nippy swift & collie holmes were excellent yesterday, vernon came into it towards the end. And young morrison in FF was absolutely excellent. I thought the Harps really did themselves proud yesterday, that said the standard of refereeing and umpires in this county is appalling. That wee bollix yesterday did his best to ruin the game. As for the umpire, (aka monkey boy, where did they find that inbreed under-developed stage 2 of the evolution process GIMP) Bellew busted young kevin kelly not 2 feet from his face and was'nt even booked, then he disallowed the goal. Harps had cross ratteled, the goal should have stood it was  clearly over the line.
The level of bias towards cross in the county is unbelievable, actually it must be a Sth Armagh thing, because the Ogs got nothing from the ref in the previous game. Ronan clarke will cause havoc in that cross fb line.

Up the Harps

Rant over

BTW the athletic grounds is fantastastic, congrats to all concerned

[BerfArmagh]

Well done to the Harps minors reaching the county final

ah shit, its against cross 

[Onion Bag]

called off - rain.

When is it going to be played? Wasnt the Junior and Intermediate finals to be played next weekend