Armagh Club football & hurling

[crossfire]

TO CORN 02
Ignore the FAKE ID. He's talking rubbish as usual.

TO GAA PUNTER
Even if Cross were thrown out of the championship,yous still wouldn't win it.

[IVEDECIDED]

Well Corn only last year Clan na Gael had to play Dromintee twice in the last couple of weeks of the season and one of the matches wasnt played at all. At the start of last season they called of around four or five matches. This resulted in them having congested fixtures at the end of the season and they ended up not completing them all.

[IVEDECIDED]

As for you crossdresser - all your club is good for is bullynig officialls and boards. If yous were a truely legendary team yous would have played culloville without a problem and yous would offer to play county finals elswhere other than your own home pitch. Yes yous have outstanding players but as for gamesmanship and fair play - none existent down there in the deep south!!

[winsamsoon]

I see this argument is starting now into a blame game between clubs based on club rivalries but we are talking about the failure of the county board here. I think all clubs would call games off if they could at certain times of the year, it would make sense. But they generally try to fulfil all fixtures when they are fixed.I know my club do anyway. I also feel  clubs should try to acccomodate others if they are genuine and if it is possible to do so Ie golf classics and other club events. The issue of death has been misused by clubs in the past and it is a subject that shouldn't be messed with. If someone with a genuine belonging to any club has died then there should be no issue with the game being called off as a mark of respect. The county should make this clear at the start of some year and highlight that the rules are the same for all clubs involved and that no one for any reason can get special treatment. It's the only fair way and the only right way. It would probably stop us from having this debate aswell.

[Goats Do Shave]

Why do you think Cross wanted the game postponed?

[corn02]

I seem to remeber Dromintee and Clans playing an excellent free-flowing game at the end of last year.

[IVEDECIDED]

Exactly my friend that game was supposed to be played in April - you should also remember that yous had to travel to Davitt the following week due to pressure from the county board to fullfill all fixtures. If the two matches had been played when they were supposed to be the teams wouldnt have been under this pressure in October when there is nothing to play for! You cant honestly deny that Dromintee had several games put off to suit their own agendas last year and the previous year! It was the talk of the county!

[IVEDECIDED]

My opinion Goat is that they postponed their game so as to have some of their county players back for it. This is a bit strange to me considering they are still a formidable outfit without them. I cant however blame Cross for wanting their players available but if they are county players then thats it im afraid and if the county board fixed the games for Sat evening then that also should be final. No club should weild that power it has the potential to create a dangerous situation.

[illdecide]

I seem to remeber Dromintee and Clans playing an excellent free-flowing game at the end of last year.

Dromintee beat us in Dromintee (they scored about 4 goals that day in a really high scoring game) and we beat them in Davitt by 2-3pts if memory serves me correctly.

and i'm not getting into that stupid argument, espically with some fool trying to copy my name

[Goats Do Shave]

My opinion Goat is that they postponed their game so as to have some of their county players back for it. This is a bit strange to me considering they are still a formidable outfit without them. I cant however blame Cross for wanting their players available but if they are county players then thats it im afraid and if the county board fixed the games for Sat evening then that also should be final. No club should weild that power it has the potential to create a dangerous situation.

Is it fair that clubs should play without county their players?

The system has changed this year in Tyrone... every team has the right to postpone their matches if their county players are unavailable due to county commitments!

I agree with this system, I know I am biased, but Ballyhegan have suffered big time over the years... & it's won't improve this year!

[bennydorano]

U sure the Tyrone system has changed? it seemed very sensible to me (County men would have to be made available for so many games - not sure of the numbers- was it 50% of games?)

[IVEDECIDED]

If clubs werent allowed to play without their county players there would be no club football! Is this what people want? It seems to me the whole thing is going in that direction anyway. Its illogical that 1000 players are constantly sacraficed so that 30 can be happy. And as for you 'ill decide' your not entering this argument cause I decided your not - you havent got the intelligence to do so anyhow!

[Goats Do Shave]

U sure the Tyrone system has changed? it seemed very sensible to me (County men would have to be made available for so many games - not sure of the numbers- was it 50% of games?)

It changed this year. It was 50% 'Starred' games or whatever they were called, but now, the reduced the number of leagues to three (aligned with the 3 championships)  & are playing a one way league - reducing the number of club games.

IVEDECIDED if Clans were missing they're top players every week & got relegated a couple of time's you'd change your thinking i'm sure!

[IVEDECIDED]

Goats I couldnt care less if the Clans lost theyre top players every week that isnt my club I use them in arguments regularly cause they best sum up what im saying and anyway when they had Marsden and O'hagan on the panel they didnt call any matches off or threaten to pull them out of the county set up! I do have sympathy for teams such as Ballyhagan who definitely do suffer as a result of missing their county players but teams such as the Ogs and cross who can still field strong teams have no excuses whatsoever. Clubs have county players thats just the way it is - club football should not be made to suffer because of this. Maybe they should be allowed to line out for thier clubs a lot more often. It makes no sense to me that they arent allowed to play for such long periods of time anyway!!

[illdecide]

If clubs werent allowed to play without their county players there would be no club football! Is this what people want? It seems to me the whole thing is going in that direction anyway. Its illogical that 1000 players are constantly sacraficed so that 30 can be happy. And as for you 'ill decide' your not entering this argument cause I decided your not - you havent got the intelligence to do so anyhow!

Thats me put in my box

Goats you are correct in what you say that a small rural club simply cannot cope with 3 players gone to the county setup. Not only are you loosing 3 players but the 3 that step in are prob rank (no disrespect) therfore weaking even further. On the Clans topic that fool IVEDECIDED has a point, clans played without Marsden and O Hagan most of the time, Bumpy had more fallouts with JK over this and to my knowledge he walked out twice on JK because he wanted to play for his club.

I can't see no reason why the county men can't represent their clubs for the next 5-6 weeks as after Sunday Armagh won't have a competitive game till June 15th...