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Localexpert very quiet the past while.  Mc £uckin doing a fine job with the huns.

[Double header with AI final would be great but don't think that's practical due to normal ticket demand (although if Dublin keep walking it demand could drop).]

Bit of an OG having it with hurling semi-finals. Makes it sound gimmicky.

Double header with AI final would be great but don't think that's practical due to normal ticket demand (although if Dublin keep walking it demand could drop).

If they go with a standalone fixture I think Croker is too big so sticking with HQ, a double or treble header would be the way to go.

Its very practical. But giving 50% of your tickets to random clubs up and down the country and elsewhere is the killer here. Where there is a will there is a way. Whats being proposed here is the death knell for the competition before it has even started.

I'd agree with this.

I think 90% of tickets should be given to competing counties in the All Ireland finals. In the case outlined above with the Tailteann Cup, you could go 30-30-15-15 between senior teams and Tailteann teams.

But why could we not just have a stand alone day at Croke Park (or another venue) for this final? I don't get this whole Croke Park thing for me. As a player I'd rather play in a packed provincial stadium than a half empty Croke Park.

Does it not diminish the competition itself as being an undercard?

How many counties have their intermediate club final as the precursor for the senior final?

I played intercounty for a number of years. I would take croke park ten times out of ten. Its the macca. Anything else is second best and playing a 2nd tier compo out of croke park really does undermine its credibility. Any poster who does not understand that Croke Park is the 'field of dreams' for any player simply imo has no appreciation of players aspirations.

Mickey Donnelly was in the running? The man is dying to be a county manager applied for the derry job last year then applied for the tyrone job weeks after becoming Ardboe manager. He has no shame

He has a strong CV
An Ulster minor and U20 with two counites
Senior championship with Mayobridge
Mac Rory & Hogan Cups

in my view its strong than Dooher and Logans. Your comment sounds personal rather based on fact.Nominated does not mean you applied, its means a club put your name forward.

I think we should fine out who the members are of the County Board involved in this decision, because in 5 years time we will look back and say these were the people that delivered our  Arsne Wenger moment when Mickey was forced out.

I have been thinking about the Errigal team and why they are not playing effective football. You may well argue it is effective as they were in last years final and this years semi final. But I think they are not reaching their potential. They are playing a brand of football that almost mimics Tyrone and it doesn't suit them. Pascal Canavan had them the last three years and I think Peter had them for a couple of years before that and they place defensive packed defensive football and for me Errigal are trapped in this model. They predominately hand pass the ball with any kick pass being 30m at most. I don't think it suits them. Playing Harte in the forwards only contributes to how slow they transfer the ball from defence to the forward line, he needs to be in the hb line to ensure the transition is quicker. No doubt young Canavan is a loss, but similar to the county final last year he wouldn't see the ball much due to the lack of kicking the ball and the slow movement of the ball from defence to attack. he continually faces a wall of defenders. They need a shift in their football strategy I think to reach the promised land.

[rrigal very poorly coached too. There will be an inquest up there over the next few months. They should have beat Dungannon no matter what way you look at it man on ma]

They did try a few kicks into McGahan early on but the quality was that bad it looks like it was a late call there. McGahan is much better coming into a game at the end - he caused Trillick far more bother at the end of the game last year than in the whole time he was on pitch there on Saturday. As you say, there isn't much point having him there unless you are willing to kick in the diagonals to him.

Trillick were just a slicker team, they moved Coalisland around at ease. Thought Lee Brennan had them all over the place then just dinking little balls into the lad Garrity who was claiming and laying them off, very simple but very effective. Coalisland got serious frees in that 2nd half to get them back into it, some were frees, some were easily enough bought. McKernan must have been down holding the face 3 or 4 times.

Plunkett Kane rightly getting the plaudits, I wrote Coalisland off at start of year because I said they were an ageing team. I still think I was right there but Kane obviously still has the class.

Errigal very poorly coached too. There will be an inquest up there over the next few months. They should have beat Dungannon no matter what way you look at it man on man. You have to hand it to Dungannon, they weren't to be beat. I think the corner back kicked the winner might have been the one gave away the goal too in extra time? Great story for him and Dungannon as a whole.

Seen Errigal in the semi final and final last year and then watched Saturdays game and I see no difference in their play, slow with no pace through the middle third and literally no kicking of the ball of any consequence. Last years county final performance was embarrassing I thought

I'd be very surprised if the wee ballygawley man is volunteering his time to commentate 

The authority on all things volunteering has spoken lads.

Glad to see you back. You clonoe men wouldn't know much about volunteer ethos with the amount of expenses you pay out 

I can take getting beat by the better team. Didn't expect to win. But I can't stand hypocrites. You and O'Hagan in the same boat. Talking about volunteers when you have done the exact same thing with outside managers and trainers. Pure hypocrites.
However due to the genuine good friends I have in Coalisland who I know are genuine people, I would like to see Coalisland do well in the remaining championship.

There's expenses and then there's the clean fortune you eejits pay professional managers.  And what's O'Hagan got to do with it he wouldn't take money off his own club like ca$hidy did

Sure is it not common knowledge O'Hagan is still there because your lot cant afford anyone outside due to almost going broke paying McKeever, Gilligan, Mc Guckin, Devlin plus more "volunteers" in camera work and stats men for 2.5 years to almost get relegated

Its easier to win with humility and gain respect and not to be a massive t00l to your neighbours

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I'd be very surprised if the wee ballygawley man is volunteering his time to commentate 

The authority on all things volunteering has spoken lads.

Glad to see you back. You clonoe men wouldn't know much about volunteer ethos with the amount of expenses you pay out 

I can take getting beat by the better team. Didn't expect to win. But I can't stand hypocrites. You and O'Hagan in the same boat. Talking about volunteers when you have done the exact same thing with outside managers and trainers. Pure hypocrites.
However due to the genuine good friends I have in Coalisland who I know are genuine people, I would like to see Coalisland do well in the remaining championship.

I'd be very surprised if the wee ballygawley man is volunteering his time to commentate 

The authority on all things volunteering has spoken lads.

Mc Kenna was/is a talent. I recall him playing for Eglish seniors in an end of season league game when he was U17( you know how that stupid rules now stops lads that age playing senior now ffs), he couldn't be marked and we had a few good defenders back then. Pace, power & balance blessed with a football brain.

Can any of the clonoe posters tell me if stevie mcdoll$r got his money upfront from clonoe or is he still taking small group sessions to get some cash?

I'll tell you what, I'll contact John McKeever and Conleth Gilligan and ask them how they think Coalisland would have dealt with them in this situation. They'll help us with our final decision, and we'll get back to you asap

Looking like a washout Saturday.Pomeroy on standby apparently be some culture shock for the Blues.

Some culture shock is right. How would their entourage fit in those changing rooms?

a club senior team can barely fit in the changing rooms and often have to move half the lads into another changing room to get togged out, and then bring everyone into the one room for the team talk. I would guess the majority of the dublin lads have never experienced anything like that before... and i would think pomeroy might pull the old trick were the electric for the building has suddenly stopped working, leaving the changing rooms with no source of light 

also worth noting that the warm up is done on a tiny area of the back pitch that is literally surrounded by parked cars, it would make for an interesting spectacle.

Truly hope the game goes to pomeroy

The game needs to be played there to embarrass the county board into doing something with Omagh pitch

Listened to the Podcast by Jarlath Burns on Off the Ball (i think that was it)
I had a very different view of him before listening - have met him a few times and know that he is very driven and focused and hard working etc...the podcast would suggest that he might have some substance to his drive for President.

Anyone heard it?

Most of these guys talk the talk , but walking it is different. The Last President who walked the walk was Peter Quinn. The current one went in on the ticket of sorting the fixtures, he has been useless.

You listened to the podcast then - what did you think?

Listen, why? As I said already, they are good at talking the talk, I will judge him walking the walk. If he sorts fixtures he will have an outstanding success. But you won't sort it out if you spend to much time talking.

Listened to the Podcast by Jarlath Burns on Off the Ball (i think that was it)
I had a very different view of him before listening - have met him a few times and know that he is very driven and focused and hard working etc...the podcast would suggest that he might have some substance to his drive for President.

Anyone heard it?

Most of these guys talk the talk , but walking it is different. The Last President who walked the walk was Peter Quinn. The current one went in on the ticket of sorting the fixtures, he has been useless.

Aghayaran- Mark Copeland
Newton/Dregish- Mike O Kane

OKane from the Plum?

Think he's ex Claudy/ Dungiven.

He's from glenullin

Managed Dungiven seniors this year when they were relegated from Division 1. But also took their U21s who won their championship. replaced by Stephen O Neill