Ulster Colleges

[statto]

I wonder is there more to it?

Chrissy McKaigue is the manager, and has been getting a touch under the tweet by a few comments. Surely no bigger club man or duel player advocate? 

He'd hardly be the first manager/coach who it looking to build his reputation on the back of a few schools trophies and is entirely focused on that.

The fact that these lads were representing their club in an Ulster minor semi-final is quite galling that the school whose next game isn't till next week felt the need to exclude them for playing for their very club!!!

Stop forcing kids to chose between codes.

Did he not leave teaching to be a full time coach in his own club? That's what he talked about on the gaa social podcast last year. 

[Saffrongael]

I wonder is there more to it?

Chrissy McKaigue is the manager, and has been getting a touch under the tweet by a few comments. Surely no bigger club man or duel player advocate? 

He'd hardly be the first manager/coach who it looking to build his reputation on the back of a few schools trophies and is entirely focused on that.

The fact that these lads were representing their club in an Ulster minor semi-final is quite galling that the school whose next game isn't till next week felt the need to exclude them for playing for their very club!!!

Stop forcing kids to chose between codes.

Did he not leave teaching to be a full time coach in his own club? That's what he talked about on the gaa social podcast last year. 

He must be in St Pats as a hired gun

[marty34]

How can he do the two?

Is that not a conflict of interest?

Be interesting to find out what the truth is anyway regarding this whole issue.

College football is very serious at the time but minor in the bigger scheme of things.  Lads get in who flunked GCSEs etc. just to play football and do made-uppy courses.  Then they're out of the school.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Sort of the reverse of what Enda Gormley was at 10-15 years ago. Stopped Glen minors playing for their school as they were preparing for the Ulster minor tournament.

[naka]

College football is very serious at the time but minor in the bigger scheme of things.  Lads get in who flunked GCSEs etc. just to play football and do made-uppy courses.  Then they're out of the school.

only in some schools at present,
exam results in others becoming more important ( newry schools i believe pushing exam results more than football)
tbf when I was at school it was all about the football but that was in the 80s 

[LC]

College football is very serious at the time but minor in the bigger scheme of things.  Lads get in who flunked GCSEs etc. just to play football and do made-uppy courses.  Then they're out of the school.

only in some schools at present,
exam results in others becoming more important ( newry schools i believe pushing exam results more than football)
tbf when I was at school it was all about the football but that was in the 80s 

Makes sense, when young fellas go for a mortgage down the line their job / salary will have more relevance than having played McRory football. 

[Armagh18]

College football is very serious at the time but minor in the bigger scheme of things.  Lads get in who flunked GCSEs etc. just to play football and do made-uppy courses.  Then they're out of the school.

only in some schools at present,
exam results in others becoming more important ( newry schools i believe pushing exam results more than football)
tbf when I was at school it was all about the football but that was in the 80s 

Makes sense, when young fellas go for a mortgage down the line their job / salary will have more relevance than having played McRory football.

In my experience they'll get put through a course for a level/equivalent that they'll definitely get into uni with. Suppose its up to themselves from there on.

[thewobbler]

If a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.

We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.

[Armagh18]

If a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.

We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.

Know plenty of lads that were totally useless in school but stayed on because of football. Some of them ended up getting into uni through football then handy teaching jobs, some went to uni and wasted a year and ended up being useless later in life as well, some left uni went to a trade and are now earning great money. 

[LC]

If a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.

We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.

Know plenty of lads that were totally useless in school but stayed on because of football. Some of them ended up getting into uni through football then handy teaching jobs, some went to uni and wasted a year and ended up being useless later in life as well, some left uni went to a trade and are now earning great money.

Very true some guys catch themselves on whereas others still in their 30s still live in the bubble they were in in their late teens / early 20s. 

[marty34]

If a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.

We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.

Bit harsh that.

[johnnycool]

If a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.

We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.

We'd a few lads get university places based on UUJ's soaring stars or whatever it was called and Mageean Cup performances and they needed less entry points that you'd normally need to get onto a course.

If the raw materials aren't there to do the course then they're wasting their time, but I suppose no harm in giving it a go.

[LC]

It was alright in the 90s  going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications.  Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans.  Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.

[marty34]

It was alright in the 90s  going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications.  Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans.  Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.

It's all relative.

[LC]

To a point.

However I think graduates nowadays are finding it more difficult / taking longer to get out from under student debt compared to years gone by.