Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?

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One way to sidestep EU shenanigans

BBC News - Novavax: Deal agreed to 'fill and finish' 60 million doses in UK
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-56570168

The first round of vaccination will be over before these guys get going.
There is going to loads of vaccine in the summer, of many different types.

On the good news front, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines stop about 90% of transmission, once people have two doses etc. That is mighty news, because if you have 90% of people vaccinated and you only have 10% transmission then your R is below 1 and an epidemic cannot get going.

So with loads of vaccine and vaccines that work well, this Covid is on the way out, although it will take a while yet.

Great news. Hopefully the end is in sight.

[Angelo]

Canada the latest to take action on the AZ vaccine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/30/canada-suspends-use-of-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-for-those-under-55

They must be anti-vaxx lunatics too.

[Rossfan]

Berlin not happy with Astra jab
https://m.independent.ie/news/berlin-suspends-use-of-astrazeneca-vaccine-again-due-to-reports-of-blood-clots-40256240.html

[Angelo]

Mildred will on to name the Germans now as anti-vaxx lunatics.

That's the Scandanavians, Canadians and Germans who are now anti-vaxx nutters.

[tyrone08]

Canada the latest to take action on the AZ vaccine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/30/canada-suspends-use-of-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-for-those-under-55

They must be anti-vaxx lunatics too.

4 people developed blood clots out of 20 million doses given in EU. The guardain article even highlighted that no blood clots have been observed in Canada.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/03/astrazeneca-vaccine-blood-clot-issue-wont-go-away/618451/

Just that short pause sparked despair and condemnation. Commentators and public-health experts called it "stupid, harmful, "quite dangerous," and a "magnificent example of European failure." The problem, they said, was that the actual evidence of harm had been very weak—and maybe even nonexistent. Writing in The New York Times on March 22, Heidi Larson, the director of the Vaccine Confidence Project at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, noted that just 25 Europeans had developed blood clots, out of 20 million who received the AstraZeneca vaccine. That rate, she said, was lower than what you'd normally see among unvaccinated people. According to the statistician David Spiegelhalter, the furor over blood clots showed our "basic and often creative urge to find patterns even where none exist."

[Angelo]

Canada the latest to take action on the AZ vaccine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/30/canada-suspends-use-of-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-for-those-under-55

They must be anti-vaxx lunatics too.

4 people developed blood clots out of 20 million doses given in EU. The guardain article even highlighted that no blood clots have been observed in Canada.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/03/astrazeneca-vaccine-blood-clot-issue-wont-go-away/618451/

Just that short pause sparked despair and condemnation. Commentators and public-health experts called it "stupid, harmful, "quite dangerous," and a "magnificent example of European failure." The problem, they said, was that the actual evidence of harm had been very weak—and maybe even nonexistent. Writing in The New York Times on March 22, Heidi Larson, the director of the Vaccine Confidence Project at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, noted that just 25 Europeans had developed blood clots, out of 20 million who received the AstraZeneca vaccine. That rate, she said, was lower than what you'd normally see among unvaccinated people. According to the statistician David Spiegelhalter, the furor over blood clots showed our "basic and often creative urge to find patterns even where none exist."

If I told you 93% of people who are recorded as Covid deaths, had underlying health conditions - what would that statistic tell you?

What you quoted there stated just 25 Europeans out of 20 million with an AZ jab developed blood clots. Yet Germany is suspending it after 31 reported cases of blood clot, a woman died in Austria a few weeks back from it too, another woman was seriously ill at the same time.

Coincidence theorism is out in force.

[armaghniac]

Canada the latest to take action on the AZ vaccine.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/30/canada-suspends-use-of-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-for-those-under-55

They must be anti-vaxx lunatics too.

4 people developed blood clots out of 20 million doses given in EU. The guardain article even highlighted that no blood clots have been observed in Canada.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/03/astrazeneca-vaccine-blood-clot-issue-wont-go-away/618451/

Just that short pause sparked despair and condemnation. Commentators and public-health experts called it "stupid, harmful, "quite dangerous," and a "magnificent example of European failure." The problem, they said, was that the actual evidence of harm had been very weak—and maybe even nonexistent. Writing in The New York Times on March 22, Heidi Larson, the director of the Vaccine Confidence Project at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, noted that just 25 Europeans had developed blood clots, out of 20 million who received the AstraZeneca vaccine. That rate, she said, was lower than what you'd normally see among unvaccinated people. According to the statistician David Spiegelhalter, the furor over blood clots showed our "basic and often creative urge to find patterns even where none exist."

The issue is not the aggregate of blood clots, but a very particular type of blood clot that is uncommon generally. Using statistics for all blood clots may provide no great insight.

[JoG2]

One way to sidestep EU shenanigans

BBC News - Novavax: Deal agreed to 'fill and finish' 60 million doses in UK
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-56570168

The first round of vaccination will be over before these guys get going.
There is going to loads of vaccine in the summer, of many different types.

On the good news front, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines stop about 90% of transmission, once people have two doses etc. That is mighty news, because if you have 90% of people vaccinated and you only have 10% transmission then your R is below 1 and an epidemic cannot get going.

So with loads of vaccine and vaccines that work well, this Covid is on the way out, although it will take a while yet.

Great news. Hopefully the end is in sight.

Absolutely, great to hear.

[Milltown Row2]

Mildred will on to name the Germans now as anti-vaxx lunatics.

That's the Scandanavians, Canadians and Germans who are now anti-vaxx nutters.

Can you answer me this cockhead? been avoiding it

Angelo you've been referring to flu's and no flu's recorded, just new variants of Covid.

What do you mean exactly?

Am I too assume from your references that, Covid is just a new flu variant that has mutated to becoming more life threatening to the worldwide and not just in the winter months?

Or that Covid is actually flu and we should have just treated it as such and continued with limited restrictions?
Can you answer theses?
Or Covid is real and not flu at all and with a closed border attitude we could have saved more lives?

[dec]

I live in New York and I will be getting the J&J vaccine next week. It is the single shot version so I will just need a single appointment.

[J70]

NY open this week to everyone over 30, and next week to everyone over 16.

Got my second Pfizer dose last week at the Javitts Center.

[J70]

NY brought out the Empire Pass thing last week too.

Phone app where you can download any test results, as well as your vaccine details once they're processed. Each will come with a QR code which can be scanned. Think the Barclays Center and other venues have been testing them out. Basically a vaccine passport.

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NY brought out the Empire Pass thing last week too.

Phone app where you can download any test results, as well as your vaccine details once they're processed. Each will come with a QR code which can be scanned. Think the Barclays Center and other venues have been testing them out. Basically a vaccine passport.

Interesting, how have the public reacted? Keep us informed on its implementation and any issues.

[J70]

It's just out, and not a mandatory thing yet. Actually Excelsior Pass, not Empire.

Here's one story on it.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2021/03/27/new-york-just-launched-a-digital-vaccine-pass-to-restart-concerts-sports-events-and-other-activities/amp/

[Milltown Row2]

It's just out, and not a mandatory thing yet. Actually Excelsior Pass, not Empire.

Here's one story on it.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2021/03/27/new-york-just-launched-a-digital-vaccine-pass-to-restart-concerts-sports-events-and-other-activities/amp/

So If i book tickets to go to New York in October, we should be ok?

We'll have both been (at that point) both jabs