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General discussion / Re: Gas or Oil
« on: Today at 01:32:13 PM »
yeah, that would be my main thing, as someone said going out to the tank to check if you havent one of those readers to let you know, bleeding of the rads when the oil runs out is a pain.. so yeah, £3000 needed now..

Eh?

Yeah what i found was that the bolier needed bled, which was a bollox, for mine i had to blow out the pipe till the oil filtered through to the boiler, but for some reason on some of the radiators it lost pressure and i had to use the rad key and let the air out!

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GAA Discussion / Re: Club Managers Money
« on: Today at 01:29:43 PM »
It is a racket in the higher end of things, people getting cars and so on Ive heard and if clubs are willing to cough this up then they might be able to afford this out of their earnings as a club social bar that makes money or what mainly happens is there is a guy who has a few quid which he funds a manager..

Every club has an AGM and if they aint happy on how things are run or want to know the answer to something they ask, if there is enough votes on the subject then its either passed or not.. so as said before, each club to their own and if they feel that it works for them or that they can't get a clubman to take the team then what are they to do? should the committie look after the team then?

There are certain clubs that have a serious amount of money behind them and others that scrape along every year, its up to them on how they deal with it

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General discussion / Re: Gas or Oil
« on: Today at 11:26:11 AM »
yeah, that would be my main thing, as someone said going out to the tank to check if you havent one of those readers to let you know, bleeding of the rads when the oil runs out is a pain.. so yeah, £3000 needed now..

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General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: Today at 11:24:02 AM »
be different if it wasnt like for like, so if a forward rugby player tackled a hurler he'd crush him, forward on a forward or a back in rugby will be like for like, they are the same weight and size so the impacts will be realitive..

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Hurling Discussion / Re: Gilroy new Dubs manager
« on: Today at 11:21:25 AM »
Always like Dublin hurling, always playing in the shadow of their footballers, even in the days that their footballers were being dominated by the likes of Meath and so they plugged away, and for years I'd be down at Parnell park watching Antrim beat Dublin and now its chalk and cheese!

 Dublin have built up a rep for hard physical hurling, now if they manage to get a few forwards that will open up teams they could (and should based on their money and competitive club teams) have an impact on the tradional teams of hurling

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General discussion / Re: Gas or Oil
« on: Today at 11:06:51 AM »
Is there a grant going about now also? price wise its the same, as the in laws have the gas and they pay roughly the same yearly as we do for oil

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GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
« on: January 17, 2018, 11:22:15 PM »
Iíd say itís edited the whole way with it just thrown together without any thought

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GAA Discussion / Re: Club Managers Money
« on: January 17, 2018, 11:20:12 PM »
And thatís fair enough as I did it myself for many years, and no doubts will be back to do it when I want to...

But I can see where people shouldnít have to be out of pocket, eyes wide open or not. Time isnít the same any more unfortunately and covering travel is ok...

My travel is covered for refereeing and Iíve never heard of people complaining about that

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GAA Discussion / Re: Club Managers Money
« on: January 17, 2018, 10:29:57 PM »
You havenít read my post have you?

Iíll spell it out again, Iíve managed at least 5 different teams within the club, never paid until I found out the football set up got expenses for travel, so I asked the question after I was asked to become manager,  should there be a difference?

Now if a member of the committee was getting money would you step down?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Club Managers Money
« on: January 17, 2018, 10:10:49 PM »
Like I said I wasnít paid... but I seen people getting expenses.. plenty clubs have benefactors who do this.

Minder no one asked you to play you did it cause you wanted to, weíve done plenty trips to, Westmeath, Dublin, and other places as far as players, never give it a second thought.. management is different. As i said to Hardstation, try it

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GAA Discussion / Re: Club Managers Money
« on: January 17, 2018, 09:25:07 PM »
A clubman who looks after the team should not have to pay for his fuel and telphone calls.. and thats for any team

You either want to do it or not. Most communication is on WhatsApp (messages and calls) and would most not have a tonne of minutes included? Fuel wise, why should managers / coaches get fuel when everyone else drives to training or carpool to training / games. Personally,  I wouldn't take a bean from the club.. Most struggle to make ends meet as it is.
Bar the mercenary brigade, the vast majority know (outside reg, lotto and the like) , being part of a team will cost you money (and every brownie point you have!).

You could be spending £30 a week on normal fuel for just training sessions.. so for instance if I use myself as a example Iím 30 mile round trip to my club, two nights a week minimum training, plus weekend training or games, challenge games would be away generally and then youíre into your season, depending on how long your season goes you are talking at least £1500 quid on fuel alone for the year..

You talk about WhatsApp and whatever, itís not like that either, itís about calling loads of people not just players who can be needy feckers! Your club Sec, chairman, your trainers and arranging other crap.

trust me Iíve been there, many times.. if you do it right you give up a lot of your time and your families time, add in that extra cost. Why should you do it and be out of pocket also?

And youíre not going to make money BTW
Surely you made the same 30 mile round journey to training as a player also? Why would you be reimbursed as a manager but not as a player?

I only used me as an example Iíve taken many teams within the club senior through to under 12, never took money .. came in one year after being asked as they didnít have anyone, I said if the football manager is being covered for fuel then surely so should the hurling manager, it wasnít agreed and I stepped down, not because of the money but purely on principle..

Hardstation try your hand at senior management, when you do that Iíll listen. A player turns up trains goes home, plays match on Sunday goes home!

Manager, puts plans in place, pre season he sorts out indoor training at a school or church hall carries out training drills, organises training programs weight programs individually set, speaks to dieticians to encourage healthy diet.. deals with equipment, is there enough hurling balls,  spare sticks, gear washed.. nets up and nets down, flags out on pitch, making sure pitch it cut or playable.. dealing with players who feel they have to have an input into selections! Taking criticism from clubmen who hurled 40 years ago, manager is thinking about the next match selection wondering whoís away on a flipping stag weekend during the league! I could go on, being a player is a gift, being a manager is not, the rewards can be fantastic and Iíve sampled some, but they are few..

Being a chairman or a Sec is a thankless task also, wouldnít touch it unless I was retired to be honest

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GAA Discussion / Re: Club Managers Money
« on: January 17, 2018, 08:45:35 PM »
A clubman who looks after the team should not have to pay for his fuel and telphone calls.. and thats for any team

You either want to do it or not. Most communication is on WhatsApp (messages and calls) and would most not have a tonne of minutes included? Fuel wise, why should managers / coaches get fuel when everyone else drives to training or carpool to training / games. Personally,  I wouldn't take a bean from the club.. Most struggle to make ends meet as it is.
Bar the mercenary brigade, the vast majority know (outside reg, lotto and the like) , being part of a team will cost you money (and every brownie point you have!).

You could be spending £30 a week on normal fuel for just training sessions.. so for instance if I use myself as a example Iím 30 mile round trip to my club, two nights a week minimum training, plus weekend training or games, challenge games would be away generally and then youíre into your season, depending on how long your season goes you are talking at least £1500 quid on fuel alone for the year..

You talk about WhatsApp and whatever, itís not like that either, itís about calling loads of people not just players who can be needy feckers! Your club Sec, chairman, your trainers and arranging other crap.

trust me Iíve been there, many times.. if you do it right you give up a lot of your time and your families time, add in that extra cost. Why should you do it and be out of pocket also?

And youíre not going to make money BTW

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Hurling Discussion / Re: Gilroy new Dubs manager
« on: January 17, 2018, 08:25:33 PM »
Seen them twice in a week
First v Antrim no contest really
Then v Wexford last Sunday
Very impressed with them, had Wexford on the rack to winters got red
Their tackling and aggression when they donít have the ball is fantastic
There number 11 ( Whitley) was very good and Winters
Solid full back line and very pacy corner forwards
Young Dillon came on in second half and looks promising
There no6 is to slow but Imm sure Rushe will slot in there when he comes back
Sutcliffe of the pace but showed signs of old
I think they could run deep this summer and challenge for trophies next year no problem
Big crowd there so things are looking up for Dublin hurling

How many of the Cuala lads will fit in to that panel?

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General discussion / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: January 17, 2018, 08:20:32 PM »
Watched the press conference there for the Frampton fight, really looking forward to this fight! But he has to win I feel or it will be up in the air!

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: January 17, 2018, 03:51:32 PM »
dont know all the details but yeah, all ages staying till next year afaik

2nd hand info so stand to be corrected.
Still can't see any county u17 football mgr or trials?

Give them a bell, and if you have your foundation course they'd be more than happy I'd say to let you take the team.
I'd say you are right! Poor organisation all the same when we need to be better prepared than most to compete

Look its the same with clubs, trying to get someone to commit to taking teams is difficult. Ive already been asked to help out at the club, as i'm asked most years, the same people always do, the county teams is harder again, lot of committment, i certainly seen that with the minor hurling team last year, they were on the go all the time and with a big selection of mentors helping out..

Not too many people will put their hands up to take teams, but are pretty good at giving off about it, not saying you are Belfast GAA man, from my limited experience its harder than you think with even less reward for the effort you put in, and I'm noit talking about money

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