Up there with Micko as the greatest Kerry manager delivering another Munster title tonight. Kerry will beat galway handy enough in a couple weeks in AI semi final. Barry o'Sullivan, Jordan Kiely and Micheal Burns great subs to bring on. Jack O'Connor will have 3 minor and 1 u21 title when takover from Fitzy next season.
Quote from: mayoaremagic on March 29, 2017, 07:52:41 PM
Up there with Micko as the greatest Kerry manager delivering another Munster title tonight. Kerry will beat galway handy enough in a couple weeks in AI semi final. Barry o'Sullivan, Jordan Kiely and Micheal Burns great subs to bring on. Jack O'Connor will have 3 minor and 1 u21 title when takover from Fitzy next season.
The blip on Jack O'Connors CV is that he could not win an AI final unless he was playing Cork or Mayo!
Level with Mickey Harte with 3 titles each.
Something tells me neither man is done winning.
Quote from: mayoaremagic on March 29, 2017, 07:52:41 PM
Up there with Micko as the greatest Kerry manager delivering another Munster title tonight. Kerry will beat galway handy enough in a couple weeks in AI semi final. Barry o'Sullivan, Jordan Kiely and Micheal Burns great subs to bring on. Jack O'Connor will have 3 minor and 1 u21 title when takover from Fitzy next season.
Please please go back to Hogan Stand
Scary talent down there...
Quote from: Ball Hopper on March 29, 2017, 10:45:38 PM
Level with Mickey Harte with 3 titles each.
Something tells me neither man is done winning.
harte has 1 minor 2 u21 and 3 senior all irelands. the last of them 9 years ago. hes yesterdays man.
If he was made of chocolate he'd eat himself
Quote from: southtyronegael on March 29, 2017, 10:54:58 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on March 29, 2017, 10:45:38 PM
Level with Mickey Harte with 3 titles each.
Something tells me neither man is done winning.
harte has 1 minor 2 u21 and 3 senior all irelands. the last of them 9 years ago. hes yesterdays man.
Hmmm. Maybe players have something to do with it as well. Tyrone have a good team now but also had good teams in 80s and 90s that didn't win Senior AIs. The team and players that did win in the noughties was a great team. A golden age team. Nobody can just create a team like that. Mickey Harte can't and neither can Jack O Connor or anybody else.
Kerry have an awesome side this year.
You could gather men off the street to win with that team no disrespect to Jack who is a great manager.
i have great respect for jack o connor. won 2 senior all irelands but didnt think himself too big a man to go back and manage the minors. this is a man who puts his county first, the best of luck to him.
Quote from: orangeman on March 29, 2017, 11:26:09 PM
Kerry have an awesome side this year.
You could gather men off the street to win with that team no disrespect to Jack who is a great manager.
A Kerry lad I know who wouldn't be a lover of Jack reckoned that he knew this crew were good when Jack sought the job of managing Kerry minors in 2013.
Quote from: ashman on March 29, 2017, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: orangeman on March 29, 2017, 11:26:09 PM
Kerry have an awesome side this year.
You could gather men off the street to win with that team no disrespect to Jack who is a great manager.
A Kerry lad I know who wouldn't be a lover of Jack reckoned that he knew this crew were good when Jack sought the job of managing Kerry minors in 2013.
That might not be exactly an endorsement of Jack and his motives. Reminds me of Johnno who would only look at ateam if he thought they were worth the bother and win something.
Ah here, Jack O'Connor is a fantastic manager. 3 Vocational Schools All-Irelands, a Hogan Cup (the first for his school), 2 minor All-Irelands, 3 Seniors and probably an u21 this year. Some man to hand pick jobs if that was the case...
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 30, 2017, 12:27:31 PM
Ah here, Jack O'Connor is a fantastic manager. 3 Vocational Schools All-Irelands, a Hogan Cup (the first for his school), 2 minor All-Irelands, 3 Seniors and probably an u21 this year. Some man to hand pick jobs if that was the case...
He made his name with Colaiste na Sceilge alright, but there is some truth to the idea that he picks his moment. He certainly did it with those minors.
2nd minor All-Ireland was essentially a new team. Just 1 or 2 from 2014. 2016 was similar with a new manager to boot.
Quote from: blanketattack on March 30, 2017, 03:03:58 PM
2nd minor All-Ireland was essentially a new team. Just 1 or 2 from 2014. 2016 was similar with a new manager to boot.
Might it be the result of a change/step-up in the quality of the development panel system within the county or something?
You'd imagine the minors in Kerry are likely to be in with a serious shout again this year given how Kerry teams have done in the Munster schools (St Brendans back in the Hogan Cup final again), presence of David Clifford as captain plus I'd imagine some of the panel from last year.
I supposed you l'd have to say he's a good manager but jumping on a winning ship at minor rather than putting his hand at the wheel when it was actually needed says alot about him as a man and his priorities IMHO. Jack always comes first.
Quote from: Syferus on March 30, 2017, 05:28:52 PM
I supposed you l'd have to say he's a good manager but jumping on a winning ship at minor rather than putting his hand at the wheel when it was actually needed says alot about him as a man and his priorities IMHO. Jack always comes first.
Read his book and you'll see Jack does indeed xome first and loves praise and credit when not even due.
Quote from: mayoaremagic on March 29, 2017, 07:52:41 PM
Up there with Micko as the greatest Kerry manager delivering another Munster title tonight. Kerry will beat galway handy enough in a couple weeks in AI semi final. Barry o'Sullivan, Jordan Kiely and Micheal Burns great subs to bring on. Jack O'Connor will have 3 minor and 1 u21 title when takover from Fitzy next season.
Cant see O'Connor taken over next year. If anything Eamonn Fitzmaurice stock has risen more in last 2 weeks.
What happened Jack and the magic beans in the under 21 semi?
Quote from: seafoid on April 18, 2017, 01:32:49 PM
What happened Jack and the magic beans in the under 21 semi?
Might go on report after apparently having a rant at the ref. on Saturday. Like an anti-christ afterwards from a good source.
Quote from: mouview on April 18, 2017, 02:48:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 18, 2017, 01:32:49 PM
What happened Jack and the magic beans in the under 21 semi?
Might go on report after apparently having a rant at the ref. on Saturday. Like an anti-christ afterwards from a good source.
It's only deflection from his own mistakes in the Kerry team selection, positional assignments and getting his team motivated for last Saturday, ridiculous behaviour from a very ungracious loser, his team were completely second best on the day.
Jack has form in that regard. He is definitely a great man to get a team ready to go, but he is not a great lad for plan Bs. I couldn't believe how out-thought he was by Mickey Harte the second time around.
He believes in Kerry football, and he trusts his players to execute the basics well. When that doesn't turn out to be enough, he struggles.
As for being a sore loser, to be honest JAck is a sore winner.
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 18, 2017, 04:18:04 PM
Jack has form in that regard. He is definitely a great man to get a team ready to go, but he is not a great lad for plan Bs. I couldn't believe how out-thought he was by Mickey Harte the second time around.
He believes in Kerry football, and he trusts his players to execute the basics well. When that doesn't turn out to be enough, he struggles.
As for being a sore loser, to be honest JAck is a sore winner.
Jack O'Connor believes in Jack O'Connor™
My only experience at first hand with O'Connor was as umpire in a NFL game about 10years ago. Friend of mine was refereeing and the word among referees is that O'Connor liked to try and intimidate them. We were sitting in our dressing room at HT about to go back on the pitch when a bang came to the door. It was O'Connor roaring like a lunatic about how many frees they got when compared to the oppisition. My friend asked him to leave and a steward escorted him back to the pitch. My friend was not happy with this little stunt but he did give them a penalty in 2nd half and Kerry won by 3 or 4 points!. I was at the All Ireland final later that year and watched on as O'Conner ran down the tunnell after the referee at HT.
To hear that he verbally attacked the referee last Saturday is disgraceful especially as they were beaten off the pitch by Galway.
Quote from: ck on April 21, 2017, 05:07:02 PM
My only experience at first hand with O'Connor was as umpire in a NFL game about 10years ago. Friend of mine was refereeing and the word among referees is that O'Connor liked to try and intimidate them. We were sitting in our dressing room at HT about to go back on the pitch when a bang came to the door. It was O'Connor roaring like a lunatic about how many frees they got when compared to the oppisition. My friend asked him to leave and a steward escorted him back to the pitch. My friend was not happy with this little stunt but he did give them a penalty in 2nd half and Kerry won by 3 or 4 points!. I was at the All Ireland final later that year and watched on as O'Conner ran down the tunnell after the referee at HT.
To hear that he verbally attacked the referee last Saturday is disgraceful especially as they were beaten off the pitch by Galway.
He is an asshole. Full stop.
Quote from: mouview on April 18, 2017, 02:48:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 18, 2017, 01:32:49 PM
What happened Jack and the magic beans in the under 21 semi?
Might go on report after apparently having a rant at the ref. on Saturday. Like an anti-christ afterwards from a good source.
Then the CCCCCCCC........ should haul him out like they did Davy Fitz.
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 18, 2017, 04:18:04 PM
Jack has form in that regard. He is definitely a great man to get a team ready to go, but he is not a great lad for plan Bs. I couldn't believe how out-thought he was by Mickey Harte the second time around.
He believes in Kerry football, and he trusts his players to execute the basics well. When that doesn't turn out to be enough, he struggles.
As for being a sore loser, to be honest JAck is a sore winner.
As regards believing in Kerry football (whatever that is) and thrusting his players? He had some great players and like Paudi before him should probably have won more. You hit the nail on the head there AZ. Mickey Harte did him. Mickey had great players too but brought a tactical angle that O Connor did not have. Anybody that knows a bit would have a good cut with a team with the O Sés, Gooch, Galvin, Declan O Sullivan. Jack might get another shot with Kerry but he would be as useless as the majority of managers that try and improve counties outside the elite few. Say, if he was managing a Leitrim or a Waterford - good luck to him banging on a referee's door or ranting after a game.
Quote from: moysider on April 22, 2017, 01:47:57 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 18, 2017, 04:18:04 PM
Jack has form in that regard. He is definitely a great man to get a team ready to go, but he is not a great lad for plan Bs. I couldn't believe how out-thought he was by Mickey Harte the second time around.
He believes in Kerry football, and he trusts his players to execute the basics well. When that doesn't turn out to be enough, he struggles.
As for being a sore loser, to be honest JAck is a sore winner.
As regards believing in Kerry football (whatever that is) and thrusting his players? He had some great players and like Paudi before him should probably have won more. You hit the nail on the head there AZ. Mickey Harte did him. Mickey had great players too but brought a tactical angle that O Connor did not have. Anybody that knows a bit would have a good cut with a team with the O Sés, Gooch, Galvin, Declan O Sullivan. Jack might get another shot with Kerry but he would be as useless as the majority of managers that try and improve counties outside the elite few. Say, if he was managing a Leitrim or a Waterford - good luck to him banging on a referee's door or ranting after a game.
He'd never have the balls to go to a Westmeath like Paudi did, let alone actually win something with them.
Quote from: Syferus on April 22, 2017, 01:49:31 AM
Quote from: moysider on April 22, 2017, 01:47:57 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 18, 2017, 04:18:04 PM
Jack has form in that regard. He is definitely a great man to get a team ready to go, but he is not a great lad for plan Bs. I couldn't believe how out-thought he was by Mickey Harte the second time around.
He believes in Kerry football, and he trusts his players to execute the basics well. When that doesn't turn out to be enough, he struggles.
As for being a sore loser, to be honest JAck is a sore winner.
As regards believing in Kerry football (whatever that is) and thrusting his players? He had some great players and like Paudi before him should probably have won more. You hit the nail on the head there AZ. Mickey Harte did him. Mickey had great players too but brought a tactical angle that O Connor did not have. Anybody that knows a bit would have a good cut with a team with the O Sés, Gooch, Galvin, Declan O Sullivan. Jack might get another shot with Kerry but he would be as useless as the majority of managers that try and improve counties outside the elite few. Say, if he was managing a Leitrim or a Waterford - good luck to him banging on a referee's door or ranting after a game.
He'd never have the balls to go to a Westmeath like Paudi did, let alone actually win something with them.
Exactly. Not having a cut at Paudi but I thought he could have got more out of Moynihan and Fitzgerald but played it too safe. Using Moynihan as a full-back and not trusting Mike McCarty there was too cautious imo.
Lengthy ban coming for a GAA manager mooted on radio earlier. Any ideas?
Jim Gavin.
Quote from: LilySavage on April 25, 2017, 09:23:20 PM
Lengthy ban coming for a GAA manager mooted on radio earlier. Any ideas?
Davy Fitz
McGeeney! 12wks. Considering Davy got 8wks what did he do to get 12?????
Quote from: jp2020 on April 25, 2017, 09:40:35 PM
McGeeney! 12wks. Considering Davy got 8wks what did he do to get 12?????
Verbal altercation with McQuillan during the Antrim game where McQuillan was linesman it seems. Joke decision considering the Davy Fitz suspension.
Quote from: jp2020 on April 25, 2017, 09:40:35 PM
McGeeney! 12wks. Considering Davy got 8wks what did he do to get 12?????
Ye gotta realise that there is a different tolerance for hurling misdemeanours. An 8wk in hurling would probably be a life ban in football.
Quote from: yellowcard on April 25, 2017, 10:48:46 PM
Quote from: jp2020 on April 25, 2017, 09:40:35 PM
McGeeney! 12wks. Considering Davy got 8wks what did he do to get 12?????
Verbal altercation with McQuillan during the Antrim game where McQuillan was linesman it seems. Joke decision considering the Davy Fitz suspension.
How is it a joke decision when you havent the first clue of the facts. It was clear what Davey Fitz did, not clear what McGeeney did. You dont get 12 wks for nothing so pipe down with your "joke decision" nonsense
Quote from: LilySavage on April 25, 2017, 09:23:20 PM
Lengthy ban coming for a GAA manager mooted on radio earlier. Any ideas?
Any chance of getting McStay banned :D
Quote from: ck on April 21, 2017, 05:07:02 PM
My only experience at first hand with O'Connor was as umpire in a NFL game about 10years ago. Friend of mine was refereeing and the word among referees is that O'Connor liked to try and intimidate them. We were sitting in our dressing room at HT about to go back on the pitch when a bang came to the door. It was O'Connor roaring like a lunatic about how many frees they got when compared to the oppisition. My friend asked him to leave and a steward escorted him back to the pitch. My friend was not happy with this little stunt but he did give them a penalty in 2nd half and Kerry won by 3 or 4 points!. I was at the All Ireland final later that year and watched on as O'Conner ran down the tunnell after the referee at HT.
To hear that he verbally attacked the referee last Saturday is disgraceful especially as they were beaten off the pitch by Galway.
O'Connor is a disgrace. Gets his tactics badly wrong and put the blame on match officials, he was in Rory Hickey ear towards the end of game. If Galway had their shooting boots would have won that game by 10/15 points.
Is "consulting" with Moorefield so you can probably add a Kildare Senior Club and Leinster Senior Club to his list of achievements.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 18, 2017, 05:38:47 AM
Is "consulting" with Moorefield so you can probably add a Kildare Senior Club and Leinster Senior Club to his list of achievements.
Heard he was getting a nice sum of money for his troubles ;D ;D
Quote from: mayoaremagic on December 18, 2017, 09:28:44 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 18, 2017, 05:38:47 AM
Is "consulting" with Moorefield so you can probably add a Kildare Senior Club and Leinster Senior Club to his list of achievements.
Heard he was getting a nice sum of money for his troubles ;D ;D
No doubt, as does 99% of outside coaches/manager/consultants etc. And money well spent.
Was interesting to see him on the line yesterday. Didn't realise he was involved to that extent with Moorefield. I'd assume Glavin must have asked or agreed to him getting involved at least, so he probably has added something to their setup.
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 18, 2017, 11:15:39 AM
Was interesting to see him on the line yesterday. Didn't realise he was involved to that extent with Moorefield. I'd assume Glavin must have asked or agreed to him getting involved at least, so he probably has added something to their setup.
Glavin definitely agreed to it. He is a novice manager, only 32 years old, and is a smart guy. The chance to learn from someone like O'Connor is not one to be missed.
Hasn't he a son or is it 2 playing for Moorefield??
Quote from: Rossfan on December 18, 2017, 11:25:37 AM
Hasn't he a son or is it 2 playing for Moorefield??
Éanna and Cian. Cian was suspended for the final.
O'Connor has been helping them out training at various stages since the two boys joined a few years ago.
He hopped the fence at the county final when Whyte and Flynn were sent off and has been a more visible presence ever since!
It was interesting to hear Luke Dempsey talk about Jacko ringing him up when he was the Moorefield manager. Essentiallly open horse trading going on when his sons were choosing (lol) a club. Moorefield are probably in for a rude awakening when they play Corofin.
Quote from: shark on December 18, 2017, 11:25:25 AM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 18, 2017, 11:15:39 AM
Was interesting to see him on the line yesterday. Didn't realise he was involved to that extent with Moorefield. I'd assume Glavin must have asked or agreed to him getting involved at least, so he probably has added something to their setup.
Glavin definitely agreed to it. He is a novice manager, only 32 years old, and is a smart guy. The chance to learn from someone like O'Connor is not one to be missed.
When did Glavin stop playing? He was a decent footballer at underage.
Quote from: Gael85 on December 19, 2017, 10:54:57 AM
Quote from: shark on December 18, 2017, 11:25:25 AM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on December 18, 2017, 11:15:39 AM
Was interesting to see him on the line yesterday. Didn't realise he was involved to that extent with Moorefield. I'd assume Glavin must have asked or agreed to him getting involved at least, so he probably has added something to their setup.
Glavin definitely agreed to it. He is a novice manager, only 32 years old, and is a smart guy. The chance to learn from someone like O'Connor is not one to be missed.
When did Glavin stop playing? He was a decent footballer at underage.
He was a decent footballer at senior too. When Kildare beat the reigning Leinster champions (Westmeath :D )in 2005, he was the best player on the pitch. I think Sweeney was sent off after about 15 minutes that day. He was their captain when Dempsey was the Moorefield manager. Injuries caught up on him.
His Kildare career never really worked out. He was an excellent centre back/sweeper but Kildare still had Glenn Ryan when Glavin was u21 and Mick Foley was coming through at the same time. Nolan and Crofton tried him as a roving full forward for a while (think he played there v Westmeath in 2005?). He had bad luck with injuries then and McGeeney never fancied him much. He was always one of the better club footballers in the county.
Full forward never suited him, the ball didn't stick and when on the ball he never had time. A far more composed player when out the pitch. Was part of a decent u21 who came very close to winning Leinster too.