26 County General Election 2020

Started by Snapchap, January 09, 2020, 06:52:51 PM

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What will be makeup of the next government?

FF/SD/Lab/Green
FG/SD/Lab/Green
FG/FF
FF/Green
FG/Independents
FG/Independents
FG/Green
FF/SF
FF/Green/Independents
FF Minority
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FG/SF
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FF/Lab/Green/Independents

Rossfan

Media reporting that Hogan is to resign this evening.
Hadn't much option.
I wonder will Leo head for Brussels or will FF have 1st choice.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

armaghniac

Phil should offer and Ursula should refuse. Then he should go back to kicking the British.

Will the hotel be prosecuted? That's the real issue here, businesses all over the country taking the piss and no action being taken against them, from meat plants to restaurants.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Angelo

Quote from: armaghniac on August 26, 2020, 08:01:05 PM
Phil should offer and Ursula should refuse. Then he should go back to kicking the British.

Will the hotel be prosecuted? That's the real issue here, businesses all over the country taking the piss and no action being taken against them, from meat plants to restaurants.

The real issue is the hotel?

FFS, what level of shill are you? The people in attendance are the ones tasked with implementing legislation, upholding it and bringing people to account for it and they thought they were all above it.

There is quite rightly anger and outrage towards them when they do that for a glorified golf piss up while asking everyone else to fall in.
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Cunny Funt

Quote from: Rossfan on August 26, 2020, 07:37:10 PM
Media reporting that Hogan is to resign this evening.
Hadn't much option.
I wonder will Leo head for Brussels or will FF have 1st choice.

He should have resigned straight away. A total idiot to let this drag out.

Farrandeelin

Quote from: Rossfan on August 26, 2020, 07:37:10 PM
Media reporting that Hogan is to resign this evening.
Hadn't much option.
I wonder will Leo head for Brussels or will FF have 1st choice.

So we're not "losing" a commissioner then?
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Rois

Quote from: Angelo on August 26, 2020, 04:17:53 PM

Brian Hayes, ex FG TD and MEP was there in his current role as president of some baking lobbying group, his three guests are said to have been directors from a vulture fund called Promontoria.

That's our Cerberus friends

weareros

Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2020, 09:10:17 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 26, 2020, 07:37:10 PM
Media reporting that Hogan is to resign this evening.
Hadn't much option.
I wonder will Leo head for Brussels or will FF have 1st choice.

So we're not "losing" a commissioner then?

No guarantee we'll keep that. While what he did was wrong, but think we were silly to leave EU in disarray and effectively hand a victory to the Brits in the middle of Brexit negotiations. They will be glad to see the thick ignorant bollocks gone. It's similar to the way we forced Albert Reynolds to resign. He had to go - but we let the peace process get effed up to ensure we got his head. It was a bad mistake yet we are forcing kids and teachers back to school next week. I think we have outwitted ourselves on this one. I'm not a fan of his, or Reynolds previously - but they were still the best men for important jobs at the time. You had DUP calling for Michelle O'Neil's head too, which would have been disaster for new Stormont regime. Needs to be some middle ground in these matters.

armaghniac

Quote from: Angelo on August 26, 2020, 08:40:04 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 26, 2020, 08:01:05 PM
Phil should offer and Ursula should refuse. Then he should go back to kicking the British.

Will the hotel be prosecuted? That's the real issue here, businesses all over the country taking the piss and no action being taken against them, from meat plants to restaurants.

The real issue is the hotel?

FFS, what level of shill are you? The people in attendance are the ones tasked with implementing legislation, upholding it and bringing people to account for it and they thought they were all above it.


Because the people responsible for implementing legislation have generally not done so, and so hotels, pubs, meat factories etc are not brought to account. Even the rules for people coming into the country are poorly defined.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Angelo

Quote from: armaghniac on August 26, 2020, 10:01:33 PM
Quote from: Angelo on August 26, 2020, 08:40:04 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 26, 2020, 08:01:05 PM
Phil should offer and Ursula should refuse. Then he should go back to kicking the British.

Will the hotel be prosecuted? That's the real issue here, businesses all over the country taking the piss and no action being taken against them, from meat plants to restaurants.

The real issue is the hotel?

FFS, what level of shill are you? The people in attendance are the ones tasked with implementing legislation, upholding it and bringing people to account for it and they thought they were all above it.


Because the people responsible for implementing legislation have generally not done so, and so hotels, pubs, meat factories etc are not brought to account. Even the rules for people coming into the country are poorly defined.

The people responsible for implementing legislation were down in Galway, flouting their own laws at a golf piss up.

And you think the big story is the hotel?
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MayoBuck

Hogan comes across as a knob but was it really necessary to hound him out of the commission? He didn't represent the Irish people directly. It's completely different to Calleary who helped decide on the regulations as part of government.

The common argument on Twitter seemed to be there can't be one rule for the elite and another for us. Is the precedent now that any breach of covid guidelines must result in people losing their job? What if the gardaí call to a house party this weekend and find 40 people inside?

Hound

Quote from: Angelo on August 26, 2020, 10:03:30 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 26, 2020, 10:01:33 PM
Quote from: Angelo on August 26, 2020, 08:40:04 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 26, 2020, 08:01:05 PM
Phil should offer and Ursula should refuse. Then he should go back to kicking the British.

Will the hotel be prosecuted? That's the real issue here, businesses all over the country taking the piss and no action being taken against them, from meat plants to restaurants.

The real issue is the hotel?

FFS, what level of shill are you? The people in attendance are the ones tasked with implementing legislation, upholding it and bringing people to account for it and they thought they were all above it.


Because the people responsible for implementing legislation have generally not done so, and so hotels, pubs, meat factories etc are not brought to account. Even the rules for people coming into the country are poorly defined.

The people responsible for implementing legislation were down in Galway, flouting their own laws at a golf piss up.

And you think the big story is the hotel?
'The people responsible for the new rules"????
There was one member of government who was part of the cabinet that approved the new rules and badly at fault and rightly fired. But only one.

The hotel definitely has to be looked at given they supposedly guaranteed that the new rules were being undertaken. Albeit everyone does have to take personal responsibility too.

It wasn't just ex-FF and ex-FG politicians, there were Independents, Labour and Workers Party reps there too it seems. From the list on wiki the average age seemed to be approaching 60.

I'll look forward to giving you details of Sinn Fein politicians attending business functions over the next couple of years to see if your outrage at politicians (even though it was mostly former politicians in this case) entertaining with business people continues.

Hound

Quote from: MayoBuck on August 26, 2020, 10:15:47 PM
Hogan comes across as a knob but was it really necessary to hound him out of the commission? He didn't represent the Irish people directly. It's completely different to Calleary who helped decide on the regulations as part of government.

The common argument on Twitter seemed to be there can't be one rule for the elite and another for us. Is the precedent now that any breach of covid guidelines must result in people losing their job? What if the gardaí call to a house party this weekend and find 40 people inside?
The Commission put out a statement immediately after it came known that he was at the event  (based on information they received from Hogan or Hogan's people) that contained half truths (or you could go as far as lies).
I would say that did not go down well at all and probably carried even more weight than him breaching Covid guidelines.

Angelo

Quote from: Hound on August 26, 2020, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: Angelo on August 26, 2020, 10:03:30 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 26, 2020, 10:01:33 PM
Quote from: Angelo on August 26, 2020, 08:40:04 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 26, 2020, 08:01:05 PM
Phil should offer and Ursula should refuse. Then he should go back to kicking the British.

Will the hotel be prosecuted? That's the real issue here, businesses all over the country taking the piss and no action being taken against them, from meat plants to restaurants.

The real issue is the hotel?

FFS, what level of shill are you? The people in attendance are the ones tasked with implementing legislation, upholding it and bringing people to account for it and they thought they were all above it.


Because the people responsible for implementing legislation have generally not done so, and so hotels, pubs, meat factories etc are not brought to account. Even the rules for people coming into the country are poorly defined.

The people responsible for implementing legislation were down in Galway, flouting their own laws at a golf piss up.

And you think the big story is the hotel?
'The people responsible for the new rules"????
There was one member of government who was part of the cabinet that approved the new rules and badly at fault and rightly fired. But only one.

The hotel definitely has to be looked at given they supposedly guaranteed that the new rules were being undertaken. Albeit everyone does have to take personal responsibility too.

It wasn't just ex-FF and ex-FG politicians, there were Independents, Labour and Workers Party reps there too it seems. From the list on wiki the average age seemed to be approaching 60.

I'll look forward to giving you details of Sinn Fein politicians attending business functions over the next couple of years to see if your outrage at politicians (even though it was mostly former politicians in this case) entertaining with business people continues.

All part of the establishment, the vast majority of those in attendance were tied to FFG.

If you can spot a few high profile SF members at golf piss ups then be sure to pass them on and they should certainly be considering their positions.
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macdanger2

Quote from: Hound on August 26, 2020, 10:33:02 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on August 26, 2020, 10:15:47 PM
Hogan comes across as a knob but was it really necessary to hound him out of the commission? He didn't represent the Irish people directly. It's completely different to Calleary who helped decide on the regulations as part of government.

The common argument on Twitter seemed to be there can't be one rule for the elite and another for us. Is the precedent now that any breach of covid guidelines must result in people losing their job? What if the gardaí call to a house party this weekend and find 40 people inside?
The Commission put out a statement immediately after it came known that he was at the event  (based on information they received from Hogan or Hogan's people) that contained half truths (or you could go as far as lies).
I would say that did not go down well at all and probably carried even more weight than him breaching Covid guidelines.

Apparently Phil applying for the WTO job after only being trade commissioner a wet week didn't endear him to the commission either

Hound

Quote from: macdanger2 on August 26, 2020, 10:45:53 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 26, 2020, 10:33:02 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on August 26, 2020, 10:15:47 PM
Hogan comes across as a knob but was it really necessary to hound him out of the commission? He didn't represent the Irish people directly. It's completely different to Calleary who helped decide on the regulations as part of government.

The common argument on Twitter seemed to be there can't be one rule for the elite and another for us. Is the precedent now that any breach of covid guidelines must result in people losing their job? What if the gardaí call to a house party this weekend and find 40 people inside?
The Commission put out a statement immediately after it came known that he was at the event  (based on information they received from Hogan or Hogan's people) that contained half truths (or you could go as far as lies).
I would say that did not go down well at all and probably carried even more weight than him breaching Covid guidelines.

Apparently Phil applying for the WTO job after only being trade commissioner a wet week didn't endear him to the commission either
Yep. Finally got too big for his boots!