Leinster Minor Football Championship 2017

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redsetanta

Didn't want to start a new thread for this but below is the U15 panel for 2017.

Interesting to see that the likes of Spink can have 4 representatives while the big urban centres of Graigue, Port and Mountmellick have a total of 2 between them (Mountmellick don't have anyone on the panel). In saying that there's only one representative from the entire Arles parish.

The county board really need to have a look at these figures and get coaches into the urban centres. They are not turning out enough younglads of the right standard whether it be skill or attitude. There has to be more than 2 footballers in those 3 areas??

Laois Under-15 Football Panel for 2017 was today named and is as follows:

Oisin Byrne Arles/Killeen
Adam Connolly Ballyfin
Danny Brennan Ballyroan/Abbey
Eoghan Dunne Ballyroan/Abbey
Adam Broady Ballyroan/Abbey
Brian Whelan Ballyroan/Abbey
James McWey Ballyroan/Abbey
Jamie Burke Barrowhouse
Adam Daly Clonaslee
DJ Callaghan Clonaslee
Ciaran Burke Crettyard
Daniel Murphy Graiguecullen
Orrie Doran Killeshin
Jack Brennan Killeshin
David McDonald Killeshin
Rioghan Murphy Portarlington
Ben Brennan Portlaoise
Kevin Swayne Portlaoise
Cormac Dunne Portlaoise
Cian O Shaughnessy Spink
Cathal O Shaughnessy Spink
Mark Kehoe Spink
Jamie Stratford Spink
Nathan Little St Pauls
Sean Greene St Pauls
Paul O Flynn St Pauls
Josh O Brien St Josephs
Jamie Kelly St Josephs
Conor Goode Stradbally
Eamon Delaney Stradbally
Ciaran O Neill Stradbally
The real glory is being knocked to your knees and then coming back. That's real glory. VinceLombardi

BallyroanAbu



Don Draper

Quote from: redsetanta on January 26, 2017, 05:37:16 PM
Didn't want to start a new thread for this but below is the U15 panel for 2017.

Interesting to see that the likes of Spink can have 4 representatives while the big urban centres of Graigue, Port and Mountmellick have a total of 2 between them (Mountmellick don't have anyone on the panel). In saying that there's only one representative from the entire Arles parish.

The county board really need to have a look at these figures and get coaches into the urban centres. They are not turning out enough younglads of the right standard whether it be skill or attitude. There has to be more than 2 footballers in those 3 areas??

Laois Under-15 Football Panel for 2017 was today named and is as follows:

Oisin Byrne Arles/Killeen
Adam Connolly Ballyfin
Danny Brennan Ballyroan/Abbey
Eoghan Dunne Ballyroan/Abbey
Adam Broady Ballyroan/Abbey
Brian Whelan Ballyroan/Abbey
James McWey Ballyroan/Abbey
Jamie Burke Barrowhouse
Adam Daly Clonaslee
DJ Callaghan Clonaslee
Ciaran Burke Crettyard
Daniel Murphy Graiguecullen
Orrie Doran Killeshin
Jack Brennan Killeshin
David McDonald Killeshin
Rioghan Murphy Portarlington
Ben Brennan Portlaoise
Kevin Swayne Portlaoise
Cormac Dunne Portlaoise
Cian O Shaughnessy Spink
Cathal O Shaughnessy Spink
Mark Kehoe Spink
Jamie Stratford Spink
Nathan Little St Pauls
Sean Greene St Pauls
Paul O Flynn St Pauls
Josh O Brien St Josephs
Jamie Kelly St Josephs
Conor Goode Stradbally
Eamon Delaney Stradbally
Ciaran O Neill Stradbally
Time to give up on the towns, Laois future is in hardy young rural fellas.

OTF

Quote from: redsetanta on January 26, 2017, 05:37:16 PM
Didn't want to start a new thread for this but below is the U15 panel for 2017.

Interesting to see that the likes of Spink can have 4 representatives while the big urban centres of Graigue, Port and Mountmellick have a total of 2 between them (Mountmellick don't have anyone on the panel). In saying that there's only one representative from the entire Arles parish.

The county board really need to have a look at these figures and get coaches into the urban centres. They are not turning out enough younglads of the right standard whether it be skill or attitude. There has to be more than 2 footballers in those 3 areas??

Laois Under-15 Football Panel for 2017 was today named and is as follows:

Oisin Byrne Arles/Killeen
Adam Connolly Ballyfin
Danny Brennan Ballyroan/Abbey
Eoghan Dunne Ballyroan/Abbey
Adam Broady Ballyroan/Abbey
Brian Whelan Ballyroan/Abbey
James McWey Ballyroan/Abbey
Jamie Burke Barrowhouse
Adam Daly Clonaslee
DJ Callaghan Clonaslee
Ciaran Burke Crettyard
Daniel Murphy Graiguecullen
Orrie Doran Killeshin
Jack Brennan Killeshin
David McDonald Killeshin
Rioghan Murphy Portarlington
Ben Brennan Portlaoise
Kevin Swayne Portlaoise
Cormac Dunne Portlaoise
Cian O Shaughnessy Spink
Cathal O Shaughnessy Spink
Mark Kehoe Spink
Jamie Stratford Spink
Nathan Little St Pauls
Sean Greene St Pauls
Paul O Flynn St Pauls
Josh O Brien St Josephs
Jamie Kelly St Josephs
Conor Goode Stradbally
Eamon Delaney Stradbally
Ciaran O Neill Stradbally

With all due respect to the smaller clubs and the effort they're clearly  putting in,  Graigue , Port , Mountmellick and Portlaoise should be providing more than half that panel.  Its no coincidence that we have fallen away so badly at underage level.
There wont be any happy ending here.

Laoisguy

I am in complete agreement re numbers/talent being brought forward....a disgrace

Systems and organisation just not up to what is required...What is Mountmellick doing I dunno?

redsetanta

Is Mountmellick just a basket case or what's going on there?

Are they big into soccer or rugby because they aren't setting the GAA world alight. Most of the better known players in recent years were not from the town.
The real glory is being knocked to your knees and then coming back. That's real glory. VinceLombardi

Zooming around

Quote from: redsetanta on January 26, 2017, 05:37:16 PM
Didn't want to start a new thread for this but below is the U15 panel for 2017.

Interesting to see that the likes of Spink can have 4 representatives while the big urban centres of Graigue, Port and Mountmellick have a total of 2 between them (Mountmellick don't have anyone on the panel). In saying that there's only one representative from the entire Arles parish.

The county board really need to have a look at these figures and get coaches into the urban centres. They are not turning out enough younglads of the right standard whether it be skill or attitude. There has to be more than 2 footballers in those 3 areas??

Laois Under-15 Football Panel for 2017 was today named and is as follows:

Oisin Byrne Arles/Killeen
Adam Connolly Ballyfin
Danny Brennan Ballyroan/Abbey
Eoghan Dunne Ballyroan/Abbey
Adam Broady Ballyroan/Abbey
Brian Whelan Ballyroan/Abbey
James McWey Ballyroan/Abbey
Jamie Burke Barrowhouse
Adam Daly Clonaslee
DJ Callaghan Clonaslee
Ciaran Burke Crettyard
Daniel Murphy Graiguecullen
Orrie Doran Killeshin
Jack Brennan Killeshin
David McDonald Killeshin
Rioghan Murphy Portarlington
Ben Brennan Portlaoise
Kevin Swayne Portlaoise
Cormac Dunne Portlaoise
Cian O Shaughnessy Spink
Cathal O Shaughnessy Spink
Mark Kehoe Spink
Jamie Stratford Spink
Nathan Little St Pauls
Sean Greene St Pauls
Paul O Flynn St Pauls
Josh O Brien St Josephs
Jamie Kelly St Josephs
Conor Goode Stradbally
Eamon Delaney Stradbally
Ciaran O Neill Stradbally
Two of the four Spink lads are from Ballinakill and are just hurlers who happen to be athletic. They aren't footballers at all and are still able to make a county squad. Overall there are five hurlers on that panel. I don't mind dual players but these lads are just hurlers. Just goes to show how poor football is when they need to raid the hurling panels to make up a squad. Surely there are enough footballers in the county to make up a football squad

BallyroanAbu

In fairness Ballyroan is now a pretty big pick

Keyser Söze

Quote from: Laoisguy on January 27, 2017, 09:54:04 AM
I am in complete agreement re numbers/talent being brought forward....a disgrace

Systems and organisation just not up to what is required...What is Mountmellick doing I dunno?

Quote from: redsetanta on January 27, 2017, 10:11:02 AM
Is Mountmellick just a basket case or what's going on there?

Are they big into soccer or rugby because they aren't setting the GAA world alight. Most of the better known players in recent years were not from the town.

Do people really need to ask this question?
They have been taking the handy way out at juvenile level for the past 8-10 years.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled.......

OTF

Quote from: Keyser Söze on January 27, 2017, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: Laoisguy on January 27, 2017, 09:54:04 AM
I am in complete agreement re numbers/talent being brought forward....a disgrace

Systems and organisation just not up to what is required...What is Mountmellick doing I dunno?

Quote from: redsetanta on January 27, 2017, 10:11:02 AM
Is Mountmellick just a basket case or what's going on there?

Are they big into soccer or rugby because they aren't setting the GAA world alight. Most of the better known players in recent years were not from the town.

Do people really need to ask this question?
They have been taking the handy way out at juvenile level for the past 8-10 years.

This is not just a Laois problem young people especially in towns are no longer interested in what the GAA is offering.
The Dublin situation is putting an unbalanced look on the whole situation everything is rosy there right now but that will change.
It might be a bit early to start using the word "crisis" but we're not far away.

redsetanta

You cannot really say that OTF.

A child of 4 or 5 will go where they are brought whether it be GAA, rugby, football boxing, athletics etc etc most kids want to play sport and will eventually will find one that suits they the best or they may play to or 3 different sports. As they get older they make the decisions. If the hard work is done by adults when they are young to get them involved then you have a greater chance of holding on to them.

Do you think that many of the top intercounty players couldn't excell in another sport? Some do i.e. Star at basketball.

If adult GAA club members put in the hard graft and get more young players involved from an early age and make it enjoyable for them the better talented kids will emerge. As with everythig in life it's down to hard work and knowing where you want to be.

The real glory is being knocked to your knees and then coming back. That's real glory. VinceLombardi

Butch Cassidy

It all comes down to the culture. For urban areas to promote football they need to create nurseries for kids at an early like they do in the Dublin clubs.

They also have to get coaches to go to the schools and set up some sort of partnership with the local clubs.

Do the GAMES development officers go to the schools?

Oblivion

In respect of the comments about the 4 Spink lads just been athletic, having seen Spink in action against a couple
of more fancied teams last year, I thought  they were exceptional.

If you looked at that squad for the last 2-3 years most of the squad have been involved in various Feile Panels
with Ballyroan and St. Pauls and both teams represented Laois well.

No wonder people worry about Juvenile football and kids get turned off when you see comments like the ones about the Spink
Players  with many of them good soccer players too.

Its best to brand the kids at that age with hot irons to say Football or hurling. I understand that Diarmud Connolly is a better hurler and was a better juvenile hurler than footballer and played both at juvenile level. I am sure the same could have been said about him and it looks like its worked out for him and Dublin been an athletic hurler playing football.
     

clonadmad

Quote from: OTF on January 27, 2017, 09:35:35 AM
Quote from: redsetanta on January 26, 2017, 05:37:16 PM
Didn't want to start a new thread for this but below is the U15 panel for 2017.

Interesting to see that the likes of Spink can have 4 representatives while the big urban centres of Graigue, Port and Mountmellick have a total of 2 between them (Mountmellick don't have anyone on the panel). In saying that there's only one representative from the entire Arles parish.

The county board really need to have a look at these figures and get coaches into the urban centres. They are not turning out enough younglads of the right standard whether it be skill or attitude. There has to be more than 2 footballers in those 3 areas??

Laois Under-15 Football Panel for 2017 was today named and is as follows:

Oisin Byrne Arles/Killeen
Adam Connolly Ballyfin
Danny Brennan Ballyroan/Abbey
Eoghan Dunne Ballyroan/Abbey
Adam Broady Ballyroan/Abbey
Brian Whelan Ballyroan/Abbey
James McWey Ballyroan/Abbey
Jamie Burke Barrowhouse
Adam Daly Clonaslee
DJ Callaghan Clonaslee
Ciaran Burke Crettyard
Daniel Murphy Graiguecullen
Orrie Doran Killeshin
Jack Brennan Killeshin
David McDonald Killeshin
Rioghan Murphy Portarlington
Ben Brennan Portlaoise
Kevin Swayne Portlaoise
Cormac Dunne Portlaoise
Cian O Shaughnessy Spink
Cathal O Shaughnessy Spink
Mark Kehoe Spink
Jamie Stratford Spink
Nathan Little St Pauls
Sean Greene St Pauls
Paul O Flynn St Pauls
Josh O Brien St Josephs
Jamie Kelly St Josephs
Conor Goode Stradbally
Eamon Delaney Stradbally
Ciaran O Neill Stradbally

With all due respect to the smaller clubs and the effort they're clearly  putting in,  Graigue , Port , Mountmellick and Portlaoise should be providing more than half that panel.  Its no coincidence that we have fallen away so badly at underage level.
There wont be any happy ending here.

This type of post really gets on my tits,instead of praising the huge work being done by these "unfashionable" clubs and reaping the rewards as evidenced by this panel,you are whining over the likes of graigue and Portlaoise.

The reason why they dont have lads on the panel is obvious......the work isnt being put in at underage level,if Portlaoise put as much time and money into coaching last year as they did in dragging a junior club to the DRA to poach an U16 or effort in tapping up our juveniles they would be much better served.

As for Graigecullen the only title they deserve in underage these past few years is the title of Laois Club which concedes the most juvenile games.