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Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Reply #795 on: February 13, 2018, 10:39:25 AM »
Only mid-February and the wheels seem to be well and truly falling off.




Derry have lost Niall Keenan and Ciaran McFaul for the remainder of the year.

Both men are going to head to the United States travelling in May and, even though they will still be at home for the remainder of the national league, it was agreed that they should quit the Oak Leaf panel with immediate effect as they won't be around for the championship.

"We have known for a period of time that both Niall and Ciaran had plans to travel in 2018," manager Damian McErlain confirmed in The Irish News. "Obviously it was disappointing to the management and players, however, we have to respect the wishes of Niall and Ciaran. They both would be a loss to any team in the country.

"Players make decisions at different stages in their lives and we have to accept that, challenging as that might be. Players travelling and taking time away is not unique to Derry football. It's part of life.

"Given the success of Slaughtneil we have had to manage the panel a particular way and after discussion with the two players we have decided this is the best decision for them, and Derry football at this stage. Niall and Ciaran are two honest, hard-working and capable footballers. They have been loyal servants to club and county for many years.

"We look forward to welcoming them back after their travels so they can be a part of what we are trying to achieve with the Derry senior football team in the coming years."

Midfielder Patrick Kearney has also quit the Derry county panel, according to The Irish News.


Toby47.  The management appear to have known for a while, so I don't know how this constitutes wheels well and truly falling off?
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« Reply #796 on: February 13, 2018, 10:44:38 AM »
Only mid-February and the wheels seem to be well and truly falling off.




Derry have lost Niall Keenan and Ciaran McFaul for the remainder of the year.

Both men are going to head to the United States travelling in May and, even though they will still be at home for the remainder of the national league, it was agreed that they should quit the Oak Leaf panel with immediate effect as they won't be around for the championship.

"We have known for a period of time that both Niall and Ciaran had plans to travel in 2018," manager Damian McErlain confirmed in The Irish News. "Obviously it was disappointing to the management and players, however, we have to respect the wishes of Niall and Ciaran. They both would be a loss to any team in the country.

"Players make decisions at different stages in their lives and we have to accept that, challenging as that might be. Players travelling and taking time away is not unique to Derry football. It's part of life.

"Given the success of Slaughtneil we have had to manage the panel a particular way and after discussion with the two players we have decided this is the best decision for them, and Derry football at this stage. Niall and Ciaran are two honest, hard-working and capable footballers. They have been loyal servants to club and county for many years.

"We look forward to welcoming them back after their travels so they can be a part of what we are trying to achieve with the Derry senior football team in the coming years."

Midfielder Patrick Kearney has also quit the Derry county panel, according to The Irish News.


Toby47.  The management appear to have known for a while, so I don't know how this constitutes wheels well and truly falling off?


Two of our best men gone already. Mid-feb.

Also if McErlean has knowen for a while why has he made them leave the panel now? Surely you would have told them to leave when they made the decision 'a while ago' or else let them hang around for the league.

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Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Reply #797 on: February 13, 2018, 11:08:02 AM »
Why select slaughtneil men if not available and knew that in advance; why pick these 2 lads if going to america! What about 8-10 other lads he could have selected for a run in the league to see what we got for an actual championship panel

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« Reply #798 on: February 13, 2018, 11:35:16 AM »
Disappointing to not have them involved but fair play to them,  they don't have a long window to have those sort of summers and don't think anyone can begrudge them their decision.  Two key players and hopefully they will be involved for the long term.

Do you think players read some of the nonsense posted on here ?

I'd imagine the decisions of both lads were not set in stone and management hoped they would change their minds and gave them time  ... could be wrong about that but if their decisions were in the balance then it wouldn't be helped by going on this thread  .... fans can't be bothered leaving South Derry to watch a game being played in Celtic Park (even if the game gets called off because of the weather they still like to moan about it) .... it wouldn't exactly inspire most players to start putting the head down for training from November onwards ? it's a big commitment with not much reward / thanks / support at the minute.

The team no doubt is going through a big transition period at the minute and hopefully it will come good but I don't think the necessary time will be afforded to the current management unfortunately.

This year is probably going to take a bit of patience and "support"*

*This strange word entails travelling to games to watch your team and back them when things are not looking great.  Not that I can talk, I've become a bad fan and come this May will probably be symbolized by Fan 2 in the below hypothetical situation.

South Derry Man 1 (while this is a hypothetical situation, this man actually exists - he is from Moneymore, any Derry game being played, no matter where it is at, he is guaranteed to be there):
"Doesn't it make you proud to be from Derry ?"

South Derry Man 2 (after watching Trainspotting the night before and having to travel outside of South Derry for a game with a bit of a hangover):
It's SH!!TE being from Derry ! We're the lowest of the low. The scum of the f**king Earth! The most wretched, miserable, servile, pathetic trash that was ever shat into GAA civilization. Some hate Tyrone. I don't. They're just w@nkers. We, on the other hand, are DOMINATED by w@nkers. Can't even find a decent bunch of gaels to be dominated by. We're ruled by effete arseholes. It's a SH!!TE state of affairs to be in, and ALL the fresh air in the world and all the games in the world being played in Celtic Park won't make any f**king difference!

This hypothetical conversation takes place on the way to the game.

The fairytale ending would be that we win that Championship match on the 27th of May and Derry man 2 is converted and starts to believe again.  Might not happen this year though ...

Best of luck to the team for the forthcoming year.

P.S Celtic Park moaners  - there is a separate thread to get anything off your chest relating to Celtic Park ......  ( http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=22354.0 )
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Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Reply #799 on: February 13, 2018, 11:58:36 AM »
McErlain says he will draft in reinforcements in the coming days.

who are these reinforcements likely to be?

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Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Reply #800 on: February 13, 2018, 01:43:59 PM »
McErlain says he will draft in reinforcements in the coming days.

who are these reinforcements likely to be?

From Tyrone

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« Reply #801 on: February 13, 2018, 01:56:28 PM »
McErlain says he will draft in reinforcements in the coming days.

who are these reinforcements likely to be?

From Tyrone

As long as they're not from the City I suppose that's fair enough . . .

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« Reply #802 on: February 13, 2018, 02:06:30 PM »
McErlain says he will draft in reinforcements in the coming days.

who are these reinforcements likely to be?

From Tyrone


As long as they're not from the City I suppose that's fair enough . . .

Ah suppose youse boys would class yourself to be from that part of the world rather than a big town in your own county.

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« Reply #803 on: February 13, 2018, 02:11:10 PM »
McErlain says he will draft in reinforcements in the coming days.

who are these reinforcements likely to be?

After the Longford game, Mackers said 'we'd like a bit more quality across the pitch but we are where we are at the minute. '  Well now is the time to add the likes of McGuckin ( a ball winning inside forward who'll make the ball stick), McBride (would have been one of the stand out defenders in this years club championship and him only back from injury), Heavron (one of the top footballers in Ulster) and Sean Leo. Add these men into the mix and start driving towards the championship. The season can definitely be turned around and we don't have to be heading down to Ballybofey (no disrespect to Cavan) thinking we have Everest to climb. Could be a mission persuading 1, never mind them all to rejoin right enough.

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« Reply #804 on: February 13, 2018, 02:34:45 PM »
McErlain says he will draft in reinforcements in the coming days.

who are these reinforcements likely to be?

After the Longford game, Mackers said 'we'd like a bit more quality across the pitch but we are where we are at the minute. '  Well now is the time to add the likes of McGuckin ( a ball winning inside forward who'll make the ball stick), McBride (would have been one of the stand out defenders in this years club championship and him only back from injury), Heavron (one of the top footballers in Ulster) and Sean Leo. Add these men into the mix and start driving towards the championship. The season can definitely be turned around and we don't have to be heading down to Ballybofey (no disrespect to Cavan) thinking we have Everest to climb. Could be a mission persuading 1, never mind them all to rejoin right enough.
aside from above names you have mentioned, what about the below? probably their clubs best players who have represented the county in the last number of years & have plenty of experience.
o'boyle - lavey
mc alynn - loup
nevin, suckie bell, mckinless - ballinderry
oisin duffy - foreglen
craig - dungiven
eoghan + decky brown - bellaghy

im sure there are more

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« Reply #805 on: February 13, 2018, 02:53:24 PM »
McErlain says he will draft in reinforcements in the coming days.

who are these reinforcements likely to be?

After the Longford game, Mackers said 'we'd like a bit more quality across the pitch but we are where we are at the minute. '  Well now is the time to add the likes of McGuckin ( a ball winning inside forward who'll make the ball stick), McBride (would have been one of the stand out defenders in this years club championship and him only back from injury), Heavron (one of the top footballers in Ulster) and Sean Leo. Add these men into the mix and start driving towards the championship. The season can definitely be turned around and we don't have to be heading down to Ballybofey (no disrespect to Cavan) thinking we have Everest to climb. Could be a mission persuading 1, never mind them all to rejoin right enough.
aside from above names you have mentioned, what about the below? probably their clubs best players who have represented the county in the last number of years & have plenty of experience.
o'boyle - lavey
mc alynn - loup
nevin, suckie bell, mckinless - ballinderry
oisin duffy - foreglen
craig - dungiven
eoghan + decky brown - bellaghy

im sure there are more

I was conscious of Mackers rebuilding and going with new blood so didn't want to overload with additions. Bell yes, Craig flat out with the rugby, McKinless is off travelling shortly apparently . The rest would do a job, but imo, the ones listed in bold above should be added (if they'll rejoin) immediately to give the squad a serious injection

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« Reply #806 on: February 13, 2018, 03:15:39 PM »
McErlain says he will draft in reinforcements in the coming days.

who are these reinforcements likely to be?

After the Longford game, Mackers said 'we'd like a bit more quality across the pitch but we are where we are at the minute. '  Well now is the time to add the likes of McGuckin ( a ball winning inside forward who'll make the ball stick), McBride (would have been one of the stand out defenders in this years club championship and him only back from injury), Heavron (one of the top footballers in Ulster) and Sean Leo. Add these men into the mix and start driving towards the championship. The season can definitely be turned around and we don't have to be heading down to Ballybofey (no disrespect to Cavan) thinking we have Everest to climb. Could be a mission persuading 1, never mind them all to rejoin right enough.
aside from above names you have mentioned, what about the below? probably their clubs best players who have represented the county in the last number of years & have plenty of experience.
o'boyle - lavey
mc alynn - loup
nevin, suckie bell, mckinless - ballinderry
oisin duffy - foreglen
craig - dungiven
eoghan + decky brown - bellaghy

im sure there are more

I was conscious of Mackers rebuilding and going with new blood so didn't want to overload with additions. Bell yes, Craig flat out with the rugby, McKinless is off travelling shortly apparently . The rest would do a job, but imo, the ones listed in bold above should be added (if they'll rejoin) immediately to give the squad a serious injection
Read an interview with Liam McGoldrick that he said he practically begged Sean Leo to rejoin but he wouldn't if memory serves me correctly. So it would seem he wasn't interested.
We have no full back line now Keenan is going until Slaughtneil are done. People will be playing out of position. Oisin Duffy should be recalled. Is McKinless going travelling too?

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Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Reply #807 on: February 13, 2018, 03:39:38 PM »
McErlain says he will draft in reinforcements in the coming days.

who are these reinforcements likely to be?

After the Longford game, Mackers said 'we'd like a bit more quality across the pitch but we are where we are at the minute. '  Well now is the time to add the likes of McGuckin ( a ball winning inside forward who'll make the ball stick), McBride (would have been one of the stand out defenders in this years club championship and him only back from injury), Heavron (one of the top footballers in Ulster) and Sean Leo. Add these men into the mix and start driving towards the championship. The season can definitely be turned around and we don't have to be heading down to Ballybofey (no disrespect to Cavan) thinking we have Everest to climb. Could be a mission persuading 1, never mind them all to rejoin right enough.
aside from above names you have mentioned, what about the below? probably their clubs best players who have represented the county in the last number of years & have plenty of experience.
o'boyle - lavey
mc alynn - loup
nevin, suckie bell, mckinless - ballinderry
oisin duffy - foreglen
craig - dungiven
eoghan + decky brown - bellaghy

im sure there are more

I was conscious of Mackers rebuilding and going with new blood so didn't want to overload with additions. Bell yes, Craig flat out with the rugby, McKinless is off travelling shortly apparently . The rest would do a job, but imo, the ones listed in bold above should be added (if they'll rejoin) immediately to give the squad a serious injection
Read an interview with Liam McGoldrick that he said he practically begged Sean Leo to rejoin but he wouldn't if memory serves me correctly. So it would seem he wasn't interested.
We have no full back line now Keenan is going until Slaughtneil are done. People will be playing out of position. Oisin Duffy should be recalled. Is McKinless going travelling too?

Yeah McKinless has a 3 game championship ban in club football so is for the states this summer. Also wouldn't surprise me if 1 or 2 of the others in bold wouldn't rejoin the panel after initially not being included in the squad. Also heard Craig is tied up with rugby. and to be honest I don't think any of the rest (not in bold) will make much of a difference except maybe Duffy - because we are so light in the full back line.

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« Reply #808 on: February 13, 2018, 03:40:54 PM »
Wile disappointing news, definitely think he needs to strengthen the squad now but it would be hard for people who were overlooked earlier to say yes now I would think.

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« Reply #809 on: February 13, 2018, 04:51:31 PM »
McErlain says he will draft in reinforcements in the coming days.

who are these reinforcements likely to be?

After the Longford game, Mackers said 'we'd like a bit more quality across the pitch but we are where we are at the minute. '  Well now is the time to add the likes of McGuckin ( a ball winning inside forward who'll make the ball stick), McBride (would have been one of the stand out defenders in this years club championship and him only back from injury), Heavron (one of the top footballers in Ulster) and Sean Leo. Add these men into the mix and start driving towards the championship. The season can definitely be turned around and we don't have to be heading down to Ballybofey (no disrespect to Cavan) thinking we have Everest to climb. Could be a mission persuading 1, never mind them all to rejoin right enough.
aside from above names you have mentioned, what about the below? probably their clubs best players who have represented the county in the last number of years & have plenty of experience.
o'boyle - lavey
mc alynn - loup
nevin, suckie bell, mckinless - ballinderry
oisin duffy - foreglen
craig - dungiven
eoghan + decky brown - bellaghy

im sure there are more

Out of those Duffy would be a reasonable option. The others aren't good enough for that level. What about murphy from ballinascreen. He was looking good in the mckenna cup last year. Mulholland, Ohara and warnock from glen are options also. Swatragh and glen gave slaughtneil their toughest test in the championship last year so maybe james kearney from swatragh also. Mcnicholl from gelnullin another possibility.