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« Reply #450 on: December 06, 2017, 12:50:35 AM »
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.
Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.

I take it you dint know city too well. Steelstown is in shantallow(although they'd like not to be). Culmore is not in shantallow. Anyhow sure they suck the poor wee Ardmores of this world to death whether by design or otherwise. How many steelstown players pass clubs closer to them?. They have 35 of a panel at most ages and don't make many subs. It only deprives lads an opportunity. Plenty to go around. They let? Wise up its not a nazi state we run. I speaketh no Cac good sir.

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« Reply #451 on: December 06, 2017, 08:05:39 AM »
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.
Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.

I take it you dint know city too well. Steelstown is in shantallow(although they'd like not to be). Culmore is not in shantallow. Anyhow sure they suck the poor wee Ardmores of this world to death whether by design or otherwise. How many steelstown players pass clubs closer to them?. They have 35 of a panel at most ages and don't make many subs. It only deprives lads an opportunity. Plenty to go around. They let? Wise up its not a nazi state we run. I speaketh no Cac good sir.
More cac. If anything, Steelstown is in Ballyarnett, just below the village of Steelstown. Many of their players are from the Culmore area and Hollybush PS is one of their feeder schools. Ask Paddy the next time you see him. Some of your rant above is not only inaccurate but ridiculous. Jealousy maybe, as Steelstown is one of the best run clubs in the city. 

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« Reply #452 on: December 06, 2017, 09:52:35 AM »
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.
Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.

I take it you dint know city too well. Steelstown is in shantallow(although they'd like not to be). Culmore is not in shantallow. Anyhow sure they suck the poor wee Ardmores of this world to death whether by design or otherwise. How many steelstown players pass clubs closer to them?. They have 35 of a panel at most ages and don't make many subs. It only deprives lads an opportunity. Plenty to go around. They let? Wise up its not a nazi state we run. I speaketh no Cac good sir.
More cac. If anything, Steelstown is in Ballyarnett, just below the village of Steelstown. Many of their players are from the Culmore area and Hollybush PS is one of their feeder schools. Ask Paddy the next time you see him. Some of your rant above is not only inaccurate but ridiculous. Jealousy maybe, as Steelstown is one of the best run clubs in the city.

Ballyarnett or Steelstown aren't in Culmore either.
The pitch is 100 yards from Shanty Estate through the tunnel to Old School Lane and Liscloon/Carranbane Walk . Its less than that to Cornshell/Earhart. Why would I ask Paddy i'm a born and bred Shanty man. Paddy is from Glenswilly and lives in Waterside lol! Sweet Jesus. Steelstown are one of the best clubs in county never mind city, but they should be as they take their players from all around the city and beyond unlike the smaller clubs. I didn't at any time say they aren't a good club. All I said is that the county are keen to see them succeed as they will never win another All Ireland unless they grow these areas.

For your information also the story in the Derry News/Journal from Steelstown about their efforts to stop Culmore went down very very badly amongst the vast majority of people in the city. As for the school thing, its the kettle and the pot!

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« Reply #453 on: December 06, 2017, 10:02:39 AM »
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.
Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.

I take it you dint know city too well. Steelstown is in shantallow(although they'd like not to be). Culmore is not in shantallow. Anyhow sure they suck the poor wee Ardmores of this world to death whether by design or otherwise. How many steelstown players pass clubs closer to them?. They have 35 of a panel at most ages and don't make many subs. It only deprives lads an opportunity. Plenty to go around. They let? Wise up its not a nazi state we run. I speaketh no Cac good sir.
More cac. If anything, Steelstown is in Ballyarnett, just below the village of Steelstown. Many of their players are from the Culmore area and Hollybush PS is one of their feeder schools. Ask Paddy the next time you see him. Some of your rant above is not only inaccurate but ridiculous. Jealousy maybe, as Steelstown is one of the best run clubs in the city.

Fear is correct. Steelstown is in Shantallow, Steelstown Village and Ballyarnett are very small areas in the edge of Shantallow. Steelstown has a huge catchment area, all the Greater Shantallow area, Gallaigh, Carn Hill, Skeoge etc which are now being more tapped into with Culmore coming on the scene. It's a win win for greater Shantallow and Culmore in a footballing sense. Steelstown are a super club, but there's a lot of players not getting game time because of huge numbers.
You are correct in saying Hollybush is a feeder school, but that will inevitably change when the new Culmore pitch (due to be based not far for the primary school on the grounds of the new Culmore Park) opens in the coming years. I've a clatter of nieces and nephews who go to Hollybush, all play underage, but none for Steelstown, as is the way in the Derry City and its surrounding areas ie no parish boundaries. Culmore is a parish, and most gaels in the area wish them nothing but the best.

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« Reply #454 on: December 06, 2017, 11:21:29 AM »
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.
Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.

I take it you dint know city too well. Steelstown is in shantallow(although they'd like not to be). Culmore is not in shantallow. Anyhow sure they suck the poor wee Ardmores of this world to death whether by design or otherwise. How many steelstown players pass clubs closer to them?. They have 35 of a panel at most ages and don't make many subs. It only deprives lads an opportunity. Plenty to go around. They let? Wise up its not a nazi state we run. I speaketh no Cac good sir.
More cac. If anything, Steelstown is in Ballyarnett, just below the village of Steelstown. Many of their players are from the Culmore area and Hollybush PS is one of their feeder schools. Ask Paddy the next time you see him. Some of your rant above is not only inaccurate but ridiculous. Jealousy maybe, as Steelstown is one of the best run clubs in the city.

Fear is correct. Steelstown is in Shantallow, Steelstown Village and Ballyarnett are very small areas in the edge of Shantallow. Steelstown has a huge catchment area, all the Greater Shantallow area, Gallaigh, Carn Hill, Skeoge etc which are now being more tapped into with Culmore coming on the scene. It's a win win for greater Shantallow and Culmore in a footballing sense. Steelstown are a super club, but there's a lot of players not getting game time because of huge numbers.
You are correct in saying Hollybush is a feeder school, but that will inevitably change when the new Culmore pitch (due to be based not far for the primary school on the grounds of the new Culmore Park) opens in the coming years. I've a clatter of nieces and nephews who go to Hollybush, all play underage, but none for Steelstown, as is the way in the Derry City and its surrounding areas ie no parish boundaries. Culmore is a parish, and most gaels in the area wish them nothing but the best.

Definitely a win win.  A confident club should welcome Culmore . Any person with foresight and strategic insight would know that this would strengthen everyone in the long run. Rising tide lifts all ships.

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« Reply #455 on: December 06, 2017, 11:46:17 AM »
As Damian McErlain will have only 19 players to select from his new  Derry panel for the McKenna Cup (owing to the unavailability of the six Slaughtneil panellists and the four college-tied players) he has said that it is inevitable he will have to call up many from the U20 County panel.

 In order to coordinate preparations between the two managers I presume that the  latter panel will be announced shortly by manager Paddy Campbell.One would also expect minor manager Mickey Donnelly to officially announce his backroom team.

I think that it is vitally important that all activities between the three groups are working in tandem both with each other and the Director of Football.Only in that manner can Derry football move forward in a progressive manner ie right through from the Development squads to the Senior team.

The same strength and conditioning strategies,the same tactical awareness and an identical playing system should be paramount in each team grouping.


In this modern communication age where fake news and social media misinformation can lead to unnecessary innuendo and nasty insinuation it is vital that all important  team information is released by the County Board in good time  so that genuine supporters can see the extent of how much good work is going on behind the scenes to progress Derry Gaelic football and hurling teams.

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« Reply #456 on: December 06, 2017, 12:25:06 PM »
youre either a WUM, a civil servant, or a politician, but im fcuked if I can be arsed finding out

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« Reply #457 on: December 06, 2017, 03:12:39 PM »
Club underage is staying at U12, 14, 16, 18 for the coming season.

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« Reply #458 on: December 06, 2017, 04:46:11 PM »
“A huge boost” is how Derry senior football manager Damian McErlain has described Mark Lynch’s decision to commit to his panel for 2018.

“To be honest, his decision was immediate. He wanted in and we’re delighted about that,” McErlain told DerryGAA.ie. “He’s a central figure for us, a presence and a real leader to have around the panel,” he said of the 31-year-old Banagher man.

McErlain has named a 29-man senior panel with an average age of 24 for the upcoming season, a season which begins with the McKenna Cup on Wednesday 3 January.

With a number of the Derry panel playing with their universities, the new management will use the competition to run their eye over potential senior players of the future. With the U20 championship set to begin in June, new rules mean that any U20 players listed on a senior championship teamsheet will be ruled out for their own age group’s equivalent. However, U20 players are free to play in other competitions such as the national league or McKenna Cup as required.

“We’ll be utilising many of the u20 panel for those McKenna Cup games for sure,” explains McErlain.

“That would have been our approach from the start. The county is bursting with young talent and the door is always open. Others have used that approach in the past and we think it’s a good balance. We can mix some experience with youth.”

Players who won’t be lining out in red and white for Derry’s group games in January are Emmett Bradley and Niall Keenan (with QUB), Terence O’Brien and Danny Tallon (with UU), and Niall Toner (St Mary’s) – all expected to feature for their respective college teams.

“Co-operation with the colleges has been excellent in fairness,” claims McErlain of the panel’s overall preparation during the off-season.

One man who is expected to feature in the Oak Leaf line-up will be Sigerson Cup winner, Ruairi Mooney. The Eoghan Rua man was part of Paddy Tally’s heroic winning St Mary’s team earlier this year and comes into the senior panel for first time. He is joined by would-be senior debutants Oran Hartin (among the 2017 minor goalkeepers), Faughanvale’s Jordan Curran and Slaughtneil’s Paul McNeill.

McNeill is part of the Emmet’s contingent whose involvement in the latter stages of the All-Ireland club championships in hurling and football rules them out of competitive county action for the coming months. However, McErlain sees the situation as a challenge to be welcomed.

“Those lads have earned their shot at their All-Ireland. They’ve been inspirational over the past few years and we’ll support them 100%. That winning attitude tends to rub off on others when the conditions are right and that’s something we’ll be seeking to tap into down the line. For now, it’s certainly a challenge but it’s a great opportunity for others to grab their place. Competition is what we want,” he explains.

The departure of Niall Loughlin to Australia has been a dent to McErlain’s forward options but it’s one that he feels can be overcome.

“Niall has been in great form for club and county this past few years. He has really developed into a fine player. Unfortunately he had this trip booked well in advance. He’s a lad who keeps himself in good shape so we’ll look forward to welcoming him back at some stage down the line, sooner rather than later, we hope.”

Lavey’s Niall Toner is one forward option who returns from an injury which saw him miss all intercounty and most interclub games in 2017.

Emmett Bradley, Michael Bateson, Kevin Johnston, Terence O’Brien and Liam McGoldrick are all returning players that have sampled Ulster championship action and will be welcome additions to the Oak Leaf options for the division three campaign and championship ahead.

“That’s obviously our immediate target, to be competitive in that league,” says McErlain

“We’ve assembled a fresh new panel. We’ve been delighted with the reaction of the players and the support we’ve received so far. Energy levels are high and that’s what we want. 2018 is just around the corner and we can’t wait to get going,” he concludes.

Derry Senior Football Panel 2018: Michael Bateson (Newbridge), Emmett Bradley (Glen), Padraig Cassidy (Slaughtneil), Jack Doherty (Glen), Jordan Curran (Faughanvale), Peter Hagan (Banagher), Oran Hartin (Limavady), Benny Heron (Ballinascreen), Kevin Johnston (Dungiven), Patrick Kearney (Swatragh), Niall Keenan (Castledawson), James Kielt (Kilrea), Mark Lynch (Banagher), Enda Lynn (Greenlough), Conor McAtamney (Swatragh), Michael McEvoy (Magherafelt), Ciaran McFaul (Glen), Liam McGoldrick (Coleraine), Shane McGuigan (Slaughtneil), Chrissy McKaigue (Slaughtneil), Karl McKaigue (Slaughtneil), Ben McKinless (Ballinderry), Paul McNeill (Slaughtneil), Carlus McWilliams (Ballinascreen), Ruairi Mooney (Coleraine), Terence O’Brien (Loup), Brendan Rogers (Slaughtneil), Danny Tallon (Glen), Niall Toner (Lavey).
I hope Mark Lynch is given time to loose some weight and get into good physical condition to perform at County level .... he has a terrific desire and determination and is an absolutely perfect team player.  That said he has a lot of miles on the clock but he could still make an impact as a 'last20min' substitution .... his over all skill level has been unsurpassed in Derry.

Someone one has called this a mediocre panel ... we're in Div 3 for a reason and the Manager makes his choice on his best players ... and some of them have decided County football is not for them ..... that is not a crime ... its an amateur sport.  Lets be realistic we don't have a lot of top quality players and we have to support those that have made the commitment .... one or two of them i'd say will not stand the test but that power for the course both at Club and County level all over the Country ... but we must always support the efforts of our County players and Management

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« Reply #459 on: December 06, 2017, 05:11:16 PM »
Fear, I’m surprised at many of your comments there.

The one about not wanting to be from Shanty is disgusting.

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« Reply #460 on: December 06, 2017, 07:27:07 PM »
Tickle,are your gaa jerseys still smelling in the wash😀
you've only had enough to drink when you cant hold onto the ground

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« Reply #461 on: December 06, 2017, 07:50:43 PM »
Fear, I’m surprised at many of your comments there.

The one about not wanting to be from Shanty is disgusting.

Tickle that's strong language.  If I hadn't a thicker skin and knew that yiu are a good lad I'd nearly be offended. All i intimated was that the club would rather be in Culmore so they could take from that area more freely. Without looking back at my comments I can't remember saying anything offensive. I stand by the veracity of all I said.  There shouldn't be anything in there that would be surprising as they are all facts in the common knowledge of city folk. My own club has closer links to your club than any other. Btw you could lists dozens of things that could be changed in my club and I'd hazard a guess to say I'd agree with you.

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« Reply #462 on: December 06, 2017, 09:00:00 PM »
Tickle,are your gaa jerseys still smelling in the wash😀

Na lad; I’m using a new detergent.



Fear, we’ll move on....

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« Reply #463 on: December 06, 2017, 09:06:11 PM »
Fear, I’m surprised at many of your comments there.

The one about not wanting to be from Shanty is disgusting.

Tickle that's strong language.  If I hadn't a thicker skin and knew that yiu are a good lad I'd nearly be offended. All i intimated was that the club would rather be in Culmore so they could take from that area more freely. Without looking back at my comments I can't remember saying anything offensive. I stand by the veracity of all I said.  There shouldn't be anything in there that would be surprising as they are all facts in the common knowledge of city folk. My own club has closer links to your club than any other. Btw you could lists dozens of things that could be changed in my club and I'd hazard a guess to say I'd agree with you.
Tickle is 100% correct.  No point trying to pull back now. The board knows exactly what you were intimating, as does Tickle.

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« Reply #464 on: December 06, 2017, 09:35:14 PM »
Fear, I’m surprised at many of your comments there.

The one about not wanting to be from Shanty is disgusting.

Tickle that's strong language.  If I hadn't a thicker skin and knew that yiu are a good lad I'd nearly be offended. All i intimated was that the club would rather be in Culmore so they could take from that area more freely. Without looking back at my comments I can't remember saying anything offensive. I stand by the veracity of all I said.  There shouldn't be anything in there that would be surprising as they are all facts in the common knowledge of city folk. My own club has closer links to your club than any other. Btw you could lists dozens of things that could be changed in my club and I'd hazard a guess to say I'd agree with you.
Tickle is 100% correct.  No point trying to pull back now. The board knows exactly what you were intimating, as does Tickle.

The board? Sounds scary. Lmfao. Tickle can speak for himself Mr Ballyarnett.  Bit like I'm from High Park not creggan.  That's a city joke. Tickle will get it. You won't.