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« Reply #435 on: December 05, 2017, 11:54:29 AM »
It's a very positive squad IMO. I don't see any mediocre players and it certainly looks more positive than previous management's who had players who wouldn't have made a top club side in Derry. I'm surprised Mark Lynch and James Kielt are back but I must say the rest look youthful and energetic

No mediocre players? Come on, lets be honest

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« Reply #436 on: December 05, 2017, 11:55:34 AM »
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.

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« Reply #437 on: December 05, 2017, 12:03:43 PM »
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

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« Reply #438 on: December 05, 2017, 12:18:51 PM »
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.
Fair enough. I would expect there to be more from South Derry but that is probably a slightly higher than usual amount. Was there a perception that there had been biased opinions when selecting the squad previously?

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« Reply #439 on: December 05, 2017, 12:18:58 PM »
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.

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« Reply #440 on: December 05, 2017, 12:32:15 PM »
First of all the good news about the Derry panel for 2018 is,as was flagged sometime ago, that Liam McGoldrick,Emmett Bradley,Terence O'Brien,Michael Bateson and Kevin Johnston are back.All are talented individuals who will add skill,pace and leadership qualities to the team.All will either be on the starting 15 or at least the match day squad and likely to enter the fray at some stage.Similarly one must applaud management in their selection of many young capable players as well.

What is most disappointing, however, is the  absence of many others including six men that one would have expected to be selected.For whatever reason and we do not know why( with the exception of Niall Loughlin who has gone travelling) six other key  players are missing from the panel.Danny Heavron,Sean Leo McGoldrick,Garth McKinless,Ryan Bell,Niall Holly and Emmett McGuckin are not picked. Heavron.Loughlin and McGoldrick would have been certain starters and the others would have at least been on the match day squad.

So it would appear to be a permanent feature of present day inter county teams that are not in the mix for provincial or All Ireland honours that many talented individuals drop out,are injured,not available or are not selected by management.With the exception of Niall Loughlin we do not know which category the other currently "missing " Derry players belong.

Be that as it may we  are where we are. We in Derry have a tendency of blaming managers for all the ills of the County team. Damian Barton was particularly badly treated in this regard as was Fergal P McCusker.Let us not add Damian McErlain to that roll call and get behind him and the new panel at once.We must hope that the spirit of the players that was so evident in Castlebar  against All Ireland finalists  Mayo last July will continue to inspire a new generation of Derry players.It is just so ironic that two of the stars of that game- Danny Heavron and Ryan Bell- are no longer on the panel.

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« Reply #441 on: December 05, 2017, 12:32:38 PM »
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.

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« Reply #442 on: December 05, 2017, 12:45:38 PM »
First of all the good news about the Derry panel for 2018 is,as was flagged sometime ago, that Liam McGoldrick,Emmett Bradley,Terence O'Brien,Michael Bateson and Kevin Johnston are back.All are talented individuals who will add skill,pace and leadership qualities to the team.All will either be on the starting 15 or at least the match day squad and likely to enter the fray at some stage.Similarly one must applaud management in their selection of many young capable players as well.

What is most disappointing, however, is the  absence of many others including six men that one would have expected to be selected.For whatever reason and we do not know why( with the exception of Niall Loughlin who has gone travelling) six other key  players are missing from the panel.Danny Heavron,Sean Leo McGoldrick,Garth McKinless,Ryan Bell,Niall Holly and Emmett McGuckin are not picked. Heavron.Loughlin and McGoldrick would have been certain starters and the others would have at least been on the match day squad.

So it would appear to be a permanent feature of present day inter county teams that are not in the mix for provincial or All Ireland honours that many talented individuals drop out,are injured,not available or are not selected by management.With the exception of Niall Loughlin we do not know which category the other currently "missing " Derry players belong.

Be that as it may we  are where we are. We in Derry have a tendency of blaming managers for all the ills of the County team. Damian Barton was particularly badly treated in this regard as was Fergal P McCusker.Let us not add Damian McErlain to that roll call and get behind him and the new panel at once.We must hope that the spirit of the players that was so evident in Castlebar  against All Ireland finalists  Mayo last July will continue to inspire a new generation of Derry players.It is just so ironic that two of the stars of that game- Danny Heavron and Ryan Bell- are no longer on the panel.

Neither player were asked to be part of this years panel.

When Derry gave Mayo the scare of their lives last summer in Castlebar Derry scored 1-13. Niall loughlin 0-6, Ryan Bell 0-3 and Danny Heavron 0-1.

In my eyes Derry do not have many forwards on that panel capable of kicking a few scores from play vs. top inter county sides. Ryan Bell kicked 0-3 from play against all Ireland finalists and we all know how Heavron has performed this past few years for Derry. To leave them both out is Ludacris, especially when we are where we are as a county and some of the replacements wouldn't be fit to lace these fellas boots.

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« Reply #443 on: December 05, 2017, 12:48:51 PM »
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

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« Reply #444 on: December 05, 2017, 12:50:15 PM »
First of all the good news about the Derry panel for 2018 is,as was flagged sometime ago, that Liam McGoldrick,Emmett Bradley,Terence O'Brien,Michael Bateson and Kevin Johnston are back.All are talented individuals who will add skill,pace and leadership qualities to the team.All will either be on the starting 15 or at least the match day squad and likely to enter the fray at some stage.Similarly one must applaud management in their selection of many young capable players as well.

What is most disappointing, however, is the  absence of many others including six men that one would have expected to be selected.For whatever reason and we do not know why( with the exception of Niall Loughlin who has gone travelling) six other key  players are missing from the panel.Danny Heavron,Sean Leo McGoldrick,Garth McKinless,Ryan Bell,Niall Holly and Emmett McGuckin are not picked. Heavron.Loughlin and McGoldrick would have been certain starters and the others would have at least been on the match day squad.

So it would appear to be a permanent feature of present day inter county teams that are not in the mix for provincial or All Ireland honours that many talented individuals drop out,are injured,not available or are not selected by management.With the exception of Niall Loughlin we do not know which category the other currently "missing " Derry players belong.

Be that as it may we  are where we are. We in Derry have a tendency of blaming managers for all the ills of the County team. Damian Barton was particularly badly treated in this regard as was Fergal P McCusker.Let us not add Damian McErlain to that roll call and get behind him and the new panel at once.We must hope that the spirit of the players that was so evident in Castlebar  against All Ireland finalists  Mayo last July will continue to inspire a new generation of Derry players.It is just so ironic that two of the stars of that game- Danny Heavron and Ryan Bell- are no longer on the panel.

Neither player were asked to be part of this years panel.

When Derry gave Mayo the scare of their lives last summer in Castlebar Derry scored 1-13. Niall loughlin 0-6, Ryan Bell 0-3 and Danny Heavron 0-1.

In my eyes Derry do not have many forwards on that panel capable of kicking a few scores from play vs. top inter county sides. Ryan Bell kicked 0-3 from play against all Ireland finalists and we all know how Heavron has performed this past few years for Derry. To leave them both out is Ludacris, especially when we are where we are as a county and some of the replacements wouldn't be fit to lace these fellas boots.
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« Reply #445 on: December 05, 2017, 08:42:52 PM »
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.
I've been hearing the exact same comments for the past 30 years and nothing has changed.

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« Reply #446 on: December 06, 2017, 12:02:50 AM »
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.

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« Reply #447 on: December 06, 2017, 12:08:38 AM »
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.

Sorry I mean 2002s

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« Reply #448 on: December 06, 2017, 12:22:19 AM »
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.
I've been hearing the exact same comments for the past 30 years and nothing has changed.
Explain please how nothing has changed?

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« Reply #449 on: December 06, 2017, 12:25:14 AM »
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.
Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.