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Title: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shawshank on September 14, 2017, 10:25:10 PM
The thread was locked by someone who is against free speech, so 

What will be the team starting team on Sunday, will Brown & Cassidy start, will we play with a sweeper against a serious full forward, on the basis the last team we played with a serious ff Sligo, we were badly exposed?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shantygael on September 14, 2017, 11:05:41 PM
It's all Mac ninety's fault,he started it.😇
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on September 15, 2017, 12:17:22 AM
Silver hill - have you ever put your name forward for the Glen managers position?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on September 15, 2017, 03:49:38 PM
I would start Declan Cassidy instead of M McGrogan for a real scoring threat along side Lorcan Mac in a 2 man FFL

Play Ben in the mid field area .... keep Brown and Mortimer as impacts subs ... depending on what the score is .... might need to them on earlier ... JP did well last day when introduced also Cormac Murphy (he's very quick) could be an option although I don't think he has had any game time .... BUT the key area has to be the effectiveness of our half back defensive zone to hopefully negate Clifford (and Kerry don't have any weak players) .....   It will be a big challenge but the preparation and our game-day management has been good.  Lets hope are mentality on the day can deliver a big performance
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 15, 2017, 04:52:01 PM
Why bother lock a thread when u can start another straight up; go figure!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 16, 2017, 11:55:06 AM
Good crowd to see the minors off this morning which is very encouraging. If they can stick with Kerry to last quarter I fancy our chances as they have finished strongly in the last two games and the Dublin victory will have been a real boost to confidence. Kerry have not played as good a team as Derry this year and if we keep a high intensity from off, cracks might start to appear. Kerry's defence has conceded 9 goals in 5 games.   Anyhow, fantastic to be part of the biggest sporting event in Ireland. Doire abú!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: cccc on September 16, 2017, 12:46:15 PM
Minors Gone already ?
Information i had heard was 4-15pm Castledawson Roundabout
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mountain Gael on September 16, 2017, 08:10:25 PM
Would be concerned about tomorrow if team that is selected starts
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 16, 2017, 09:19:40 PM
Looks like a more defensive approach to start, which might be wise tactically? Timing of impact subs will be crucial to outcome. Maybe trying to finish strong with what has been held in reserve?  At least there are good options on the bench.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bannside on September 17, 2017, 09:04:20 AM
Eoghan Ruagh blew the Kilmacud Sevens apart. Thoroughly deserving winners. Sean Leo player of the tournament, with Conleth Gilligan stand out on the day also for Ballinderry who were well beaten by the winners in the Quarter final.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 17, 2017, 12:12:06 PM
Who closed the last thread anyway?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 17, 2017, 01:32:48 PM
So much for playing with a sweeper;
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 17, 2017, 01:41:16 PM
Derry tactically very naive; everbody knew the danger man yet we didnt double up on him and he scored 2-3 and made the other goal!@
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Galer on September 17, 2017, 01:56:04 PM
Derry in big bother if thats the tactics for senior football for the few years,although kerry unreal
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: rrhf on September 17, 2017, 02:49:33 PM
It should have been Clifford v Brown. Instead Derry held back their trump card. Inexplicable. Kerry are the best minor team I've seen.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 17, 2017, 02:57:30 PM
I thought the Kerry team last year was stronger: but for the first goal it was one on one without another derry player within 30m; it didnt make sense the way we set up, big brown played well and to a lesser extent mcwilliams at midfield
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on September 17, 2017, 09:20:01 PM
Should senior players who excluded themselves from the panel this year as a result of not liking the manager be allowed back next year?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on September 17, 2017, 09:28:11 PM
Should senior players who excluded themselves from the panel this year as a result of not liking the manager be allowed back next year?

yes
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mountain Gael on September 17, 2017, 11:31:51 PM
Would be concerned about tomorrow if team that is selected starts
Just back from dublin and as i stated beforehand i feared the worse with team selected and especially the way the team was set up for the game.It was just mad to leave our defence wide open for the full game.terrible way to finish the season.
As for the senior game i feel for mayo. They were outstanding and matched dublin in every department and should have seen the game out. they have had no luck over the last few years but still a great team. Hard to believe we had them beat in castlebar so its not all doom and gloom.just hope we have all our players available for the start of the league campaign as it has cost us in the past.Feel we can get out of division 3 if we can continue from were we left of at against mayo and avoid tyrone in the championship would be a help.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on September 18, 2017, 09:44:30 AM
Should senior players who excluded themselves from the panel this year as a result of not liking the manager be allowed back next year?

alot of the same boys excluded themselves from their hurling team (as they got humiliated) in the county final on Saturday to play a feckin 7's tournament !

Minors blown away by an incredible Kerry team. Their movement was top drawer and our boys were chasing shadows alot of the time. Clifford should have been double teamed from the start. Kerry double-teamed Brown when he he moved to the edge of the square even though they were a mile ahead...anyways, great achievement by the young bucks, they can hold their heads high, 2nd best team in the land!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 18, 2017, 09:53:21 AM
Should senior players who excluded themselves from the panel this year as a result of not liking the manager be allowed back next year?

Absolutely not.

You play for the shirt and county no matter what the situation.

Too many prima donnas in this county
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on September 18, 2017, 10:08:56 AM
First of all it's a shame that the biggest thread on the Gaaboard has to be locked because of a few slabbers.

Secondly how good is David Clifford and that Kerry team.

Thirdly how naive was Derry's setup, played right into their hands, as someone else pointed out even Clifford couldn't believe how open we were. Shocking that we set a record for the largest losing margin in Minor final.

I would say if the Derry senior management post was being decided on today there might be a different outcome than there was 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tbrick18 on September 18, 2017, 10:32:54 AM
I great day in croker, despite the results of both games.
Minors were on a hiding to nothing with the way we set up, to have not sweeper with that forward unit is just incomprehensible.
Brown, why didn't he start? He looked like the only player we had who could win his own ball and cause problems.
Disappointing and demoralising for those young lads.  Kerry are class, but we just made it that much more difficult for ourselves with our tactical mistakes. I hope its not a sign of things to come for the seniors.

Mayo will be gutted. I thought they were the better team, and the referee shafted them.
Yes they missed some easy frees in the first half, but Dublin got away with murder off the ball. O'Gara was there to bully Aidan O'Shea, and the number of times he ran with a beeline for him to hit him a knock was ridiculous. McQuillan was obviously trying to let the game flow, but time and again he didn't give Mayo the free at one end, then gave it to Dublin at the other. He gave them a 14 yard free instead of a penalty and in general I think he was directly responsible for 4-5 scores in Dublin's benefit.
To give Dublin credit where it's due, the subs again were what lifted them in the 2nd half. After Mayo dominated everywhere but the score board in the 1st half, Dublin came storming back with subs again.
Devastating for Mayo.
As good as the players are in Dublin, I feel that team is quickly losing and respect they have throughout the country due to the undoubted bias shown towards them in terms of finance, home advantage and a seemingly unfair advantage provided by referees (at least IMO).  It doesn't take away from the fact that they are great to watch.


Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on September 18, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tonysoprano on September 18, 2017, 06:47:11 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

It was actually junior. I don't blame the lads for playing in the sevens. Because they won Ulster junior two years ago they were unable to progress to Ulster junior this year. The final against na magha was pointless. Win or lose na magha would progress to Ulster. If it was an intermediate or senior championship match the boys most definitely would have played.

All the best to na magha lavey and slaughtneil in Ulster.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 18, 2017, 06:55:57 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

It was actually junior. I don't blame the lads for playing in the sevens. Because they won Ulster junior two years ago they were unable to progress to Ulster junior this year. The final against na magha was pointless. Win or lose na magha would progress to Ulster. If it was an intermediate or senior championship match the boys most definitely would have played.

All the best to na magha lavey and slaughtneil in Ulster.

If you were one of those young lads not in the  elite athletic group in Coleraine surely you would feel badly let down though.  At the end of the day The Kilmacuds is a 7s competition for clubs who have been knocked out of their own championships and want a piss up in Dublin.  Don't think they would have been there had screen not beat them.

The dates for championship were set months ago. If eoghan rua wanted to play intermediate they shouldn't have finished last in the league. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tonysoprano on September 18, 2017, 07:08:20 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

It was actually junior. I don't blame the lads for playing in the sevens. Because they won Ulster junior two years ago they were unable to progress to Ulster junior this year. The final against na magha was pointless. Win or lose na magha would progress to Ulster. If it was an intermediate or senior championship match the boys most definitely would have played.

All the best to na magha lavey and slaughtneil in Ulster.

If you were one of those young lads not in the  elite athletic group in Coleraine surely you would feel badly let down though.  At the end of the day The Kilmacuds is a 7s competition for clubs who have been knocked out of their own championships and want a piss up in Dublin.  Don't think they would have been there had screen not beat them.

The dates for championship were set months ago. If eoghan rua wanted to play intermediate they shouldn't have finished last in the league.

I can't speak for all the lads who played but I know most of them would not have seen that as a championship final. It was seen more of a punishment for coming last in the league-  a system which unfortunately for eoghan rua does not favour a dual club with a very small selection of players to choose from and who struggle to field while football is still ongoing.

Eoghan rua are in an unfavourable position for the next few years in hurling. They have nothing to play for. Surely this system needs rethought?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 18, 2017, 08:25:59 PM
Congratulations to Slaughtneil on a fantastic 5 hurling titles in a row and to Eoghan Rua on winning the All Ireland football 7s, especially Sean Leo who got player of the tournament apparently. As for Derry minors, a number froze on the day which is understandable but for the management to freeze? That was bordering on the unforgiveable. Had they practised any Clifford (or Cliffords!) scenarios in training? 6 goals between them, could have been 10.  Really hope that all of the minors recover from the experience because that was tough going.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 18, 2017, 08:56:32 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

It was actually junior. I don't blame the lads for playing in the sevens. Because they won Ulster junior two years ago they were unable to progress to Ulster junior this year. The final against na magha was pointless. Win or lose na magha would progress to Ulster. If it was an intermediate or senior championship match the boys most definitely would have played.

All the best to na magha lavey and slaughtneil in Ulster.

If you were one of those young lads not in the  elite athletic group in Coleraine surely you would feel badly let down though.  At the end of the day The Kilmacuds is a 7s competition for clubs who have been knocked out of their own championships and want a piss up in Dublin.  Don't think they would have been there had screen not beat them.

The dates for championship were set months ago. If eoghan rua wanted to play intermediate they shouldn't have finished last in the league.

I can't speak for all the lads who played but I know most of them would not have seen that as a championship final. It was seen more of a punishment for coming last in the league-  a system which unfortunately for eoghan rua does not favour a dual club with a very small selection of players to choose from and who struggle to field while football is still ongoing.

Eoghan rua are in an unfavourable position for the next few years in hurling. They have nothing to play for. Surely this system needs rethought?

60% of hurlers in Derry are dual. I dont understand the comment about eoghan rua having nothing to aim for. Surely they could win Derry and Ulster intermediate ?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mountain Gael on September 18, 2017, 09:20:08 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.
Did you say good defence---we conceded 6-17,we had no cover in defence at all and with alot of our players in the attacking half we could only score 1-8.
Lets call it as it should be, we were terrible in our shape,selection,fitness levels etc etc etc and really it was embarrassing.
I believe the team was in town this evening and got a very warm reception which they deserved but the game was over before it really had started.If Clifford had have being handled better we had as good of players as the rest of the kerry lads.And leaving young Brown on the bench for most of the year,enough said


Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on September 18, 2017, 09:42:39 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.
Did you say good defence---we conceded 6-17,we had no cover in defence at all and with alot of our players in the attacking half we could only score 1-8.
Lets call it as it should be, we were terrible in our shape,selection,fitness levels etc etc etc and really it was embarrassing.
I believe the team was in town this evening and got a very warm reception which they deserved but the game was over before it really had started.If Clifford had have being handled better we had as good of players as the rest of the kerry lads.And leaving young Brown on the bench for most of the year,enough said

Can you double check before commenting. For the third goal, Clifford was being harrassed and forced away from goal by good defence, hope that's clearer.
Derry won and Ulster title, beating Tyrone, Antrim and Cavan, beat Sligo in the QF, then the Leinster Champs in the semi final, all with Brown playing his part from the bench. If he started the game the result would still have been the same.
One bad result is not a disaster. Very disappointing for the players and management, but something that should clearly stand to them in the future.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 18, 2017, 09:52:53 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.
Did you say good defence---we conceded 6-17,we had no cover in defence at all and with alot of our players in the attacking half we could only score 1-8.
Lets call it as it should be, we were terrible in our shape,selection,fitness levels etc etc etc and really it was embarrassing.
I believe the team was in town this evening and got a very warm reception which they deserved but the game was over before it really had started.If Clifford had have being handled better we had as good of players as the rest of the kerry lads.And leaving young Brown on the bench for most of the year,enough said

"We had as good of players as the rest of the Kerry lads." Sorry but I would really have to question that assessment, Derry struggled in many positions against superior opposition. For example Fiachra Clifford also ran riot.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 18, 2017, 10:02:24 PM
What Kerry beat Cavan by; 10 or so; what we beat Cavan by 6 or 7, should there been the sheer gulf in class between the 2 teams;  Cavan got over run by Kerry but didnt give away the goal feast we did even though Clifford scored 1-08 from play! Tactically we were bloody terrible:  Cassidy a maccrory cup captain who better than either half back not on and Brown should been on the starting team, and play defensive; result be the same but not a record hammering in a final!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mountain Gael on September 18, 2017, 10:14:50 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.
Did you say good defence---we conceded 6-17,we had no cover in defence at all and with alot of our players in the attacking half we could only score 1-8.
Lets call it as it should be, we were terrible in our shape,selection,fitness levels etc etc etc and really it was embarrassing.
I believe the team was in town this evening and got a very warm reception which they deserved but the game was over before it really had started.If Clifford had have being handled better we had as good of players as the rest of the kerry lads.And leaving young Brown on the bench for most of the year,enough said

Can you double check before commenting. For the third goal, Clifford was being harrassed and forced away from goal by good defence, hope that's clearer.
Derry won and Ulster title, beating Tyrone, Antrim and Cavan, beat Sligo in the QF, then the Leinster Champs in the semi final, all with Brown playing his part from the bench. If he started the game the result would still have been the same.
One bad result is not a disaster. Very disappointing for the players and management, but something that should clearly stand to them in the future.
Sorry,but how was he able to lift his head and pick out a foot pass if he was being harrassed and tackled so well
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Atticus_Finch on September 18, 2017, 10:25:55 PM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford’s second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could’ve had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn’t have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

It was actually junior. I don't blame the lads for playing in the sevens. Because they won Ulster junior two years ago they were unable to progress to Ulster junior this year. The final against na magha was pointless. Win or lose na magha would progress to Ulster. If it was an intermediate or senior championship match the boys most definitely would have played.

All the best to na magha lavey and slaughtneil in Ulster.

If you were one of those young lads not in the  elite athletic group in Coleraine surely you would feel badly let down though.  At the end of the day The Kilmacuds is a 7s competition for clubs who have been knocked out of their own championships and want a piss up in Dublin.  Don't think they would have been there had screen not beat them.

The dates for championship were set months ago. If eoghan rua wanted to play intermediate they shouldn't have finished last in the league.

Selling the prestige of the 7s just a bit short there ! Try telling someone from St Gall's or Bryansford that the 7s is a tournament for players after a piss up.  Ridiculous comment.  Eoghan Rua became only the third Derry team after Ballinderry and Bellaghy to win it.  Congrats to them.

Coleraine and Ballinderry (who put tournament favourites st galls out) played some great football during the tournament.

If it's a choice between a junior hurling final with no prospect of playing in Ulster or an all Ireland sevens tournament they had a good chance of winning , there's only going to be one winner surely.

I'm sure Coleraine didn't go into the league with intentions of finishing last, I dont think any team that finishes last in any league usually does to be fair.  I would hazard a guess and say that it wasn't as simple as that.

From speaking to a Coleraine man at the weekend I understand they applied for the fixture to be moved and na magha said no. 
.....

Well done to Derry minors, the disappointing result shouldn't detract from what has not only been a good year but a good period for Derry minors reaching three Ulster finals in a row.

Hopefully McErlain is given a proper chance with Derry so that a few of the good young players he's seen emerge under his watch can make an impact on the senior team, that's not going to happen in one year.

.....

Well done to Na Magha, Lavey and Sneil best of luck in Ulster.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: cornerback on September 18, 2017, 10:41:41 PM
Sorry,but how was he able to lift his head and pick out a foot pass if he was being harrassed and tackled so well

Probably because he's David Clifford!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 18, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
The 3rd goal was down to exceptional vision from one of the very best!  Put it down to a great pass under pressure!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 18, 2017, 11:30:11 PM
The 3rd goal was down to exceptional vision from one of the very best!  Put it down to a great pass under pressure!
What were the other five goals down to?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on September 19, 2017, 07:10:26 AM
What Kerry beat Cavan by; 10 or so; what we beat Cavan by 6 or 7, should there been the sheer gulf in class between the 2 teams;  Cavan got over run by Kerry but didnt give away the goal feast we did even though Clifford scored 1-08 from play! Tactically we were bloody terrible:  Cassidy a maccrory cup captain who better than either half back not on and Brown should been on the starting team, and play defensive; result be the same but not a record hammering in a final!

It's all easy in hindsight. The minors were great this year but they didn't do themselves justice in the final. Probably could've used callum brown as part of a double marking job on clifford from the start. At least he would've stopped him winning the high balls so easily. All very easy to think of these things after the game though.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on September 19, 2017, 08:47:29 AM
Hindsight??? What are u blathering on about u fool, sure it was obvious that we were far too open defensively in our last couple of games and that we needed a strategy to address that.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Dire Ear on September 19, 2017, 09:58:22 AM
Sorry,but how was he able to lift his head and pick out a foot pass if he was being harrassed and tackled so well

Probably because he's David Clifford!!
Are the 2 Cliffords related?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 19, 2017, 11:27:16 AM
Well 4 goals come from having a powerhouse at full forward who was hard to contain 1 on 1
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on September 19, 2017, 12:13:06 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 19, 2017, 12:48:31 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?


Any idea who could get these jobs?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 19, 2017, 04:56:04 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?

Love the 'restored pride' bit.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 19, 2017, 04:57:46 PM
Sorry,but how was he able to lift his head and pick out a foot pass if he was being harrassed and tackled so well

Probably because he's David Clifford!!
Are the 2 Cliffords related?

They are from different clubs according to the programme, if that helps? It didn't help Derry!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on September 20, 2017, 11:20:34 AM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?


Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on September 20, 2017, 11:45:46 AM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?


Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.

would a Magherafelt player go near it if that was the case, and I am not trying to be smart either.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 20, 2017, 11:55:59 AM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?


Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.

would a Magherafelt player go near it if that was the case, and I am not trying to be smart either.

It would be bad form for Magherafelt player to turn down the chance to represent their county because the manager of a rival is taking the team. That sort of bickering should be left at club level.

On a side note - Enda Quinn (Magherafelt's main underage manager the past 4/5 years) has won twice what Seamus Downey has won at underage level the past few years. Saying that he seems to stick to the u12-16 age groups as I don't recall him taking a minor team? Open to correction though
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on September 20, 2017, 12:17:13 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?


Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.

would a Magherafelt player go near it if that was the case, and I am not trying to be smart either.

It would be bad form for Magherafelt player to turn down the chance to represent their county because the manager of a rival is taking the team. That sort of bickering should be left at club level.

On a side note - Enda Quinn (Magherafelt's main underage manager the past 4/5 years) has won twice what Seamus Downey has won at underage level the past few years. Saying that he seems to stick to the u12-16 age groups as I don't recall him taking a minor team? Open to correction though

Would you describe it as bickering, has it not moved beyond that? Total disrespect is a more accurate description?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 20, 2017, 12:29:17 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?


Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.

would a Magherafelt player go near it if that was the case, and I am not trying to be smart either.

It would be bad form for Magherafelt player to turn down the chance to represent their county because the manager of a rival is taking the team. That sort of bickering should be left at club level.

On a side note - Enda Quinn (Magherafelt's main underage manager the past 4/5 years) has won twice what Seamus Downey has won at underage level the past few years. Saying that he seems to stick to the u12-16 age groups as I don't recall him taking a minor team? Open to correction though

Would you describe it as bickering, has it not moved beyond that? Total disrespect is a more accurate description?

Magherafelt and Lavey seem to be forming a rivalry from underage up, however if it would be the wrong stance to take to not play for your county because Seamus Downey is in charge. Whether it be bickering, fighting, disrespect or whatever you want to call it
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on September 20, 2017, 12:57:38 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?


Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.

would a Magherafelt player go near it if that was the case, and I am not trying to be smart either.

It would be bad form for Magherafelt player to turn down the chance to represent their county because the manager of a rival is taking the team. That sort of bickering should be left at club level.

On a side note - Enda Quinn (Magherafelt's main underage manager the past 4/5 years) has won twice what Seamus Downey has won at underage level the past few years. Saying that he seems to stick to the u12-16 age groups as I don't recall him taking a minor team? Open to correction though

Would you describe it as bickering, has it not moved beyond that? Total disrespect is a more accurate description?

Magherafelt and Lavey seem to be forming a rivalry from underage up, however if it would be the wrong stance to take to not play for your county because Seamus Downey is in charge. Whether it be bickering, fighting, disrespect or whatever you want to call it

What's the beef between Lavey and Magherafelt about?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: uimhr ocht on September 20, 2017, 07:35:31 PM
Bellaghy won u14 championship the last 2 years I think,Lavey won the u16 this year and mfelt have won feile titles so all healthy competitive rivalry.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on September 20, 2017, 10:50:39 PM
Typical townies. Fill the togs when it comes to the championship
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 21, 2017, 09:40:20 AM
Typical townies. Fill the togs when it comes to the championship

Wasn't too long ago Bellaghy celebrated nothing other than a senior championship. Suppose after a barren spell beggers cant be choosers and u14 championships will do
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: cornerback on September 21, 2017, 11:21:44 AM
So do Screen have any chance on Sunday? We are certainly up against it but we'll have to perform to our absolute maximum.

We need a similar performance to the first half against Coleraine & will probably need a couple of goals to win.

Chrissy McKaigue probably needs to be man-marked. He is currently their only genuine top notch player (i.e. he would make most/all county teams) but they have a plethora of quality throughout the team.

The defensive set up doesn't work against Slaughtneil, they've shown time & time again that they have the patience & quality to counteract it & eke out the win.

Hoping for a good game.... or I'd even take a miserable game with a Screen victory 😜
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: the half-time show on September 21, 2017, 01:35:16 PM
So do Screen have any chance on Sunday? We are certainly up against it but we'll have to perform to our absolute maximum.
Of course they have a chance albeit a small one in my opinion.  Bookies have it over 3-1 for Screen which I'd agree with

We need a similar performance to the first half against Coleraine & will probably need a couple of goals to win.
I'd say the opposite; keeping a clean sheet against Slaughtneil is more important as they are extremely difficult to beat once they're able to get a few points ahead.  They tend to get goals at crucial times so being able to prevent this is imperative if Screen are to see the game out

Chrissy McKaigue probably needs to be man-marked. He is currently their only genuine top notch player (i.e. he would make most/all county teams) but they have a plethora of quality throughout the team.
Agreed that he is their strongest player but they have several men that can carry from deep and get on the end of scores.  Not necessarily man marked but forwards need to be well aware of tracking their men as they go up the field

The defensive set up doesn't work against Slaughtneil, they've shown time & time again that they have the patience & quality to counteract it & eke out the win.
The real difference in the possession game that Slaughtneil play compared to other teams is in their ability to win the free in a scorable area

Hoping for a good game.... or I'd even take a miserable game with a Screen victory 😜
It's only my opinion but Screen won't win a good quality game against Slaughtneil.  I'd expect a fairly dour affair, but as with all finals it's only the result that matters
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: southderryman on September 22, 2017, 03:06:36 PM
Lads is it a double header at Celtic park on Sunday?

I've checked online and in the Irish news and can only see the senior game down for 3.30

I know it's usually a double header and I see the programme has the intermediate teams on it too but I can't see the fixture listed anywhere?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Low and Hard on September 22, 2017, 03:22:14 PM
Lads is it a double header at Celtic park on Sunday?

I've checked online and in the Irish news and can only see the senior game down for 3.30

I know it's usually a double header and I see the programme has the intermediate teams on it too but I can't see the fixture listed anywhere?

Ballinderry and Callan Gaels play in the minor B2 final before.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on September 22, 2017, 03:34:43 PM
Lads is it a double header at Celtic park on Sunday?

I've checked online and in the Irish news and can only see the senior game down for 3.30

I know it's usually a double header and I see the programme has the intermediate teams on it too but I can't see the fixture listed anywhere?

Ballinderry and Callan Gaels play in the minor B2 final before.

Callan Gaels? Where's that?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: southderryman on September 22, 2017, 03:47:03 PM
Lads is it a double header at Celtic park on Sunday?

I've checked online and in the Irish news and can only see the senior game down for 3.30

I know it's usually a double header and I see the programme has the intermediate teams on it too but I can't see the fixture listed anywhere?

Ballinderry and Callan Gaels play in the minor B2 final before.

Thanks

When/where isn't he intermediate game then?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: southderryman on September 22, 2017, 03:55:01 PM
Lads is it a double header at Celtic park on Sunday?

I've checked online and in the Irish news and can only see the senior game down for 3.30

I know it's usually a double header and I see the programme has the intermediate teams on it too but I can't see the fixture listed anywhere?

Ballinderry and Callan Gaels play in the minor B2 final before.

Callan Gaels? Where's that?

I think it's an amalgamation of desertmartin and money more
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 22, 2017, 08:18:33 PM
I see locations for fixtures in the county hasn't improved any

Doire Trasna v Ogra on at Fauganvale, whats that 9 mile for the city team and 40+ mile for Ogra
hows that work?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 22, 2017, 10:03:18 PM
I see locations for fixtures in the county hasn't improved any

Doire Trasna v Ogra on at Fauganvale, whats that 9 mile for the city team and 40+ mile for Ogra
hows that work?

Availability of playable pitches?  Omagh v Ardboe championship match had to be played in Armagh as no nuetral pitch in Tyrone was suitable. A lot of water fell this last while, could be an explanation?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 23, 2017, 05:31:31 PM
Wonder will the county board review the video of that Doire Trasna -Ogra game with the Ogra Goalkeeper getting attacked by a supporter taking a kick out, then numerous Doire Trasna supporters entering the field during the melee that followed, Doire Trasna should be kicked out of the championship and club suspended. Disgraceful stuff and there no excuse from the county board as its all on video.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on September 23, 2017, 08:01:08 PM
it was far from a classic but the double completed after beating the Vale today, hard work probably done in the first half going in 3 up after playing into a strong wind,
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 23, 2017, 09:13:48 PM
Wonder will the county board review the video of that Doire Trasna -Ogra game with the Ogra Goalkeeper getting attacked by a supporter taking a kick out, then numerous Doire Trasna supporters entering the field during the melee that followed, Doire Trasna should be kicked out of the championship and club suspended. Disgraceful stuff and there no excuse from the county board as its all on video.
If true, shocking.  Hope it is viewed before the replay.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 23, 2017, 10:02:45 PM
This was 10mins into the 2nd half, craziest thing i seen on a pitch in years, goalkeeper was kicking the ball out then attacked from behind after the kick out,as Doire trasna were attacking, match was stopped for ages, with the Doire Trasna sub bench emptying and about 10 men (supporters entering the field from behind the goal) the person in question came from the Doire Trasna sub bench and ended up there during the 2nd half, don't know what the ref was at, that he didnt put this person outside the wire, didn't look too old either. This game was videoed, its going to be ugly viewing for the Disciplinary committed. Ref should have abandoned the game.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 23, 2017, 10:29:03 PM
County Board must take action.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bannside on September 23, 2017, 11:10:48 PM
Every county has games with unsavoury conduct but Derry tops the pile by some distance. Not a week goes past without reports of serious indiscipline and there never seems to be any punishment. Most if this has nothing to do with sport.

Derry CCC is a shame on the association.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 24, 2017, 12:41:05 AM
Any stats on this bannside or are ye just talkin out yer hole
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on September 24, 2017, 07:38:49 AM
Newbridge complete the league and championship double, and reserves also win the league. Quite an achievement for Paddy Bradley in his first management job in the county.

Quite fortunate he took the team when they were ranked #1 in Div.2 and not the worst team in Div.1, though. Season could have been so much different.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 24, 2017, 09:38:37 AM
Any stats on this bannside or are ye just talkin out yer hole
Are you asking re stats for violence on player-player? Supporters-players? Players-ref or supporters-ref? 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 24, 2017, 10:09:40 AM
"Derry tops the pile by some distance"

Yeah anything at all to back this up be nice
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2017, 10:13:39 AM
That's easy. Enough content in this thread alone to confirm that. Hardly a week goes past.....
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 24, 2017, 10:24:33 AM
Thats what i thought. Thanks
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2017, 10:55:23 AM
But not just that, though that shouldn't need clarified. My comment about "topping the pile by a distance" may be OTT, fair enough, (simply because how could anyone quantify what goes on in the other 31 counties)  but maybe you would prefer if I say the rate of unsavoury incidents in club matches in Derry club GAA is a bit on the high side. Would that brush it far enough under your carpet?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 24, 2017, 11:36:00 AM
Thanks again.

Nothin bein swept under the carpet here chap just callin you out on yer bullshit.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bannside on September 24, 2017, 11:52:23 AM
It may have been a very broad statement, but I can only let you away with calling it bullshit because there is no way of quantifying what I said. On those grounds I'm ugly enough to accept that. Are you big enough to accept that the discipline in Derry GAA is atrocious, and if your admin don't get it's act together very soon and get it's house in order, someone will get very badly injured or worse?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 24, 2017, 03:42:52 PM
Id say yer man that got his leg broke at the hurling a while ago would argue it already has. Little doubt discipline could be improved. Id hazard a guess most counties would be the same though as i havent the stats to back it up i cant say that for sure.  Have a read of the Trone thread when league seasons in full swing.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: cuyahoga on September 24, 2017, 04:22:31 PM
H-T Slaughtneil 2-08, Screen 0-07
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: cuyahoga on September 24, 2017, 05:12:21 PM
F-T Slaughtneil 4-12, Ballinascreen 1-11
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on September 24, 2017, 07:01:17 PM
They have serious runners all over the pitch starting with McNeil Rogers and K McKaigue right up to the McGuigans up in the inside forward line. Very assured performance today. The 2 first half goals killed off any chance Screen had.

Shane McGuigan, very good today got motm, though I'd have given it to Pauric Cassidy, covered every blade, run through the heart of the Screen middle again and again and used the ball very well with his foot passing
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on September 24, 2017, 07:13:16 PM
Is it fairto say Swatragh are the second best team in the county?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on September 24, 2017, 07:53:48 PM
Is it fairto say Swatragh are the second best team in the county?

Yes.

In the same way Derry are the third best team in the country.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 24, 2017, 08:46:42 PM
Is it fairto say Swatragh are the second best team in the county?

Yes.

In the same way Derry are the third best team in the country.

Good one. Lol!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Billy Magoo on September 24, 2017, 08:48:07 PM
Mickey Moran - what a legend. 4 in a row champions!!!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 24, 2017, 08:53:51 PM
Slaughtneil very impressive today although Screen will be disappointed with their performance, poor start and never really recovered. Primary possession from kick outs was one of Slaughtneil's strengths, strong running from midfield really cut open Screen's defence for the goals. Rodgers, Chrissy and Sammy were excellent in first half and the game was effectively over at halftime. 4-12 is a big return in a final, they may even be better than last year?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Link on September 24, 2017, 10:23:25 PM
Very impressive by slaughtneil today. All the usual suspects played their part. McGrath stood out with a number of lung busting runs to get on the end of kick outs. McMullan's kick outs very good and very accurate especially with the short ones when there didn't seem to be much space.

Might be easier said than done but to beat slaughtneil a team will need to force them kick more 50/50s especially from their kick outs. gifting them possession from kick outs allows them to build quite easily and they rarely force anything in the attacking end. I wonder is there a club in ireland that have as many top class runners.

Thought the ref was very sore on screen. Some obvious fouls not blown and a potential black cards ignored.

I feel it's going to take a huge bad day at the office for slaughtneil to be beat in derry over the next 2-3 years. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on September 25, 2017, 08:59:36 AM
Well summed up Link.

Really feel for our lads because they could never get into the game and show what they could do.

Thought our tactics were lacking, and the sweeper system didn't work effectively.

However, there's no doubt that the better team won. Slaughtneil were seriously good from start to finish. A level above Screen and anyone else I've seen this year. I was so impressed with them.

Clinical, disciplined, focused, well conditioned. Hard to see anyone beating them any time soon.

Sammy, the McKaigue's, Rodgers et al were fantastic, and played their roles perfectly.

Twin, Patsy and Round Head were steadying the ship all game too with some really smart play.

Not to mention the talent coming off the Slaughtneil bench, most of whom would start on any club team in Ulster imo.

Then you have Moran overseeing proceedings, and it completes the perfect jigsaw.

Thought the referee was a joke with some of his decisions against Screen. But this didn't contribute to the result.

Best of luck to Slaughtneil in Ulster, they look even better than last year and will take some stopping.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tbrick18 on September 25, 2017, 09:47:16 AM
Well summed up Link.

Really feel for our lads because they could never get into the game and show what they could do.

Thought our tactics were lacking, and the sweeper system didn't work effectively.

However, there's no doubt that the better team won. Slaughtneil were seriously good from start to finish. A level above Screen and anyone else I've seen this year. I was so impressed with them.

Clinical, disciplined, focused, well conditioned. Hard to see anyone beating them any time soon.

Sammy, the McKaigue's, Rodgers et al were fantastic, and played their roles perfectly.

Twin, Patsy and Round Head were steadying the ship all game too with some really smart play.

Not to mention the talent coming off the Slaughtneil bench, most of whom would start on any club team in Ulster imo.

Then you have Moran overseeing proceedings, and it completes the perfect jigsaw.

Thought the referee was a joke with some of his decisions against Screen. But this didn't contribute to the result.

Best of luck to Slaughtneil in Ulster, they look even better than last year and will take some stopping.

+1

Slaughtneil by far the better side and unfortunately for us the score didn't flatter them.
They have pace all over the pitch, which we don't seem to have.
They looked better drilled too...they must have won 100% of their own kickouts, where we probably lost 50% of ours.
Their support play was superb and we just couldn't match it. I'm not sure if that was because they were able to stop us as they were so much better or if it was because we had not prepared to that level.
Hard to tell where we go from here.

Again, no real reflection on the end result as we were so well beaten, but the ref was a joke. We couldn't buy a free, or a penalty (def a peno against big Anton just before half time) and he seemed to give frees against us at the drop of a hat. I'd question the appointment of a Glenullin referee for a final with Slaughtneil in it due to the obvious links between both clubs when it comes to hurling. That could give cause for bias, and for me (albeit looking at it through screen tinted glasses) he was very one sided in his calls.

Anyway, best of luck to the Emmets, deserved winners.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: DERRYSFINEST on September 25, 2017, 11:56:15 AM
As a neutral, the best team won.  Major gulf in the two teams ability.

However, Dan Mullan certainly favoured Slaughtneil in their semi final win against Glen and also yesterday.  It was clear for all to see
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on September 25, 2017, 12:40:30 PM
Game Watch
S’neil were excellent throughout. 4 points inside the first 6 minutes set the tone and ‘Screen were on the back foot already.  S’neil’s mobility, pace and power all over the pitch, but especially in the middle third, was too much for ‘Screen.  Their support play and running off the ball was excellent, ‘Screen found it difficult to cope.  In fairness ‘Screen got back to within 2 points with about 20mins gone.  The 2nd goal, did a lot of damage.  And by half time a 7point lead did look extremely difficult to turnaround.

It really was game over just after half time, I thought ‘Screen could have dealt with the goal a bit better.  Anything after that point was really just seeing the game out.  McMullan’s save from the penalty was excellent, and although ‘Screen’s goal came shortly after that, there is no way the 4th goal should have been conceded.

There was some excellent battles over the course of the game – Heron/Rogers and McWilliams/Feeney, were the two best.  Brendan Herron was v influential for a good part of the game. McWilliams was doing a lot of the heavy lifting in and around midfield.  Anton probably wasn’t used as much as he should have been, he was in ff for about 15mins before anything was kicked in high.

Screen caused some problems with the rotational positions in the forward line.  There was an occasion were the closest S’neil man should have picked up Mulgrew (stand side), KMcK who was his marker, was on the terrace side covering someone else and the players decided to make the switch leaving Mulgrew free and McKaigue to cover a lot of ground to pick him up.  Of course the ball was kicked into Mulgrew for an easy possession.

S’neil will be delighted with the performance.  4-12 is excellent scoring, though they will be disappointed with a couple of poor choices in shot selection in the second half.  4-16 was probably achievable.  They could have emptied the subs bench a bit more, I don’t think they introduce a sub until the last 10mins or so.

From the stats after the game, its interesting to see that they are quite similar across the board, apart from the scores.  34 v 30 attacks, 24 v 24 shots, 7 v 8 wides, Kickouts won 21 v 21, Turn overs 12 v 13.

S’neil are worthy Champions, they’ve a tough run (from the prelim) through Ulster starting with Kilcoo or Burren and then the Tyrone Champs.  Keep the main men fit and flying and they could certainly go one better than last year.

Ref Watch
1.Penalty incidents in the first half.  Twice in quick succession, Anton was just barged in the back with no intent on playing the ball.  If that happened on a kick out it’s a free, plain and simple.

2.Philly Bradley was given a free in the first half for minimal contact, it was around head height, but there was nothing in it.  No calls from the players or crowd.  Very soft

3.In the second half Dermot McBride blocked a quick free, right under the nose of Mullan, but he refused to bring it forward.

4.The ball was played up the line to the S’neil corner forward, he fouled the Screen defender coming out with the ball, no free, play on.  S’neil man retained possession and was clearly fouled by the Screen defender, no free, play on.

5.Carlus playing a long ball into the ff line in the second half was hit as he was kicking it in.  Normally a free where the ball lands, nothing given.

6.Black Cards – there was a couple of drag downs, Feeney on Heron stands out for me, but there was a more than that.

Mullan had no impact on the scoreline.  He was very poor all over.  The S’neil contingent around us were convinced that he was favouring ‘Screen in the first half.  His poor performance and inaction could easily have led to a row breaking out.  He looked like a man that couldn’t really be bothered refereeing.  I certainly wouldn’t suggest in any way that there was bias to either side.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Glenman93 on September 25, 2017, 12:55:33 PM
Game Watch
S’neil were excellent throughout. 4 points inside the first 6 minutes set the tone and ‘Screen were on the back foot already.  S’neil’s mobility, pace and power all over the pitch, but especially in the middle third, was too much for ‘Screen.  Their support play and running off the ball was excellent, ‘Screen found it difficult to cope.  In fairness ‘Screen got back to within 2 points with about 20mins gone.  The 2nd goal, did a lot of damage.  And by half time a 7point lead did look extremely difficult to turnaround.

It really was game over just after half time, I thought ‘Screen could have dealt with the goal a bit better.  Anything after that point was really just seeing the game out.  McMullan’s save from the penalty was excellent, and although ‘Screen’s goal came shortly after that, there is no way the 4th goal should have been conceded.

There was some excellent battles over the course of the game – Heron/Rogers and McWilliams/Feeney, were the two best.  Brendan Herron was v influential for a good part of the game. McWilliams was doing a lot of the heavy lifting in and around midfield.  Anton probably wasn’t used as much as he should have been, he was in ff for about 15mins before anything was kicked in high.

Screen caused some problems with the rotational positions in the forward line.  There was an occasion were the closest S’neil man should have picked up Mulgrew (stand side), KMcK who was his marker, was on the terrace side covering someone else and the players decided to make the switch leaving Mulgrew free and McKaigue to cover a lot of ground to pick him up.  Of course the ball was kicked into Mulgrew for an easy possession.

S’neil will be delighted with the performance.  4-12 is excellent scoring, though they will be disappointed with a couple of poor choices in shot selection in the second half.  4-16 was probably achievable.  They could have emptied the subs bench a bit more, I don’t think they introduce a sub until the last 10mins or so.

From the stats after the game, its interesting to see that they are quite similar across the board, apart from the scores.  34 v 30 attacks, 24 v 24 shots, 7 v 8 wides, Kickouts won 21 v 21, Turn overs 12 v 13.

S’neil are worthy Champions, they’ve a tough run (from the prelim) through Ulster starting with Kilcoo or Burren and then the Tyrone Champs.  Keep the main men fit and flying and they could certainly go one better than last year.

Ref Watch
1.Penalty incidents in the first half.  Twice in quick succession, Anton was just barged in the back with no intent on playing the ball.  If that happened on a kick out it’s a free, plain and simple.

2.Philly Bradley was given a free in the first half for minimal contact, it was around head height, but there was nothing in it.  No calls from the players or crowd.  Very soft

3.In the second half Dermot McBride blocked a quick free, right under the nose of Mullan, but he refused to bring it forward.

4.The ball was played up the line to the S’neil corner forward, he fouled the Screen defender coming out with the ball, no free, play on.  S’neil man retained possession and was clearly fouled by the Screen defender, no free, play on.

5.Carlus playing a long ball into the ff line in the second half was hit as he was kicking it in.  Normally a free where the ball lands, nothing given.

6.Black Cards – there was a couple of drag downs, Feeney on Heron stands out for me, but there was a more than that.

Mullan had no impact on the scoreline.  He was very poor all over.  The S’neil contingent around us were convinced that he was favouring ‘Screen in the first half.  His poor performance and inaction could easily have led to a row breaking out.  He looked like a man that couldn’t really be bothered refereeing.  I certainly wouldn’t suggest in any way that there was bias to either side.

So Slaughtneil were worthy champions but it was the refs fault??
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 25, 2017, 01:06:04 PM
Slaughtneil really impressive, better than the past few years.

I've seen a lot of football in Tyrone over the past 2 weekends and have also saw Cargin 2/3 times this year Slaughtneil are heads and shoulders above any of them. The runners they have (McKeagues, Roger, Feeny, Tad, Meehaul McGrath) coming from deep and the amount of support runners is unreal.

As someone mentioned already I also think they won very close to 100% of their own kickouts which is the base for their composed possession type brand of football.

Shé McGuigan/O'Doherty will not kill you on the scoreboard but are two great ball winners and will feed Sammy/Shane all day helping them rack up scores. On top of this they have a county standard defence. Karl McKeague is a great man marker, Chrissy leads everything, Feeny is tenacious and full of running, Rogers quite similar only a bigger build and Paul McNeil goes massively under rated, class act. Throw in The leadership/experience of Paul Bradley, Patsy Bradley and McEldowney and you have one hell of a team.

An absolute sure thing to dominate Derry football for the next 6-8 years. And if they continue to dive them selves on and don't loose hunger I honestly think they can go one step further than last year and will an AI club championship.

On a side note - Mullan was very poor. Didn't effect the result at all but some really questionable decisions. None more so than the foul on Anton Kelly in the first half that was a stone wall penalty.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on September 25, 2017, 01:26:56 PM
Game Watch
S’neil were excellent throughout. 4 points inside the first 6 minutes set the tone and ‘Screen were on the back foot already.  S’neil’s mobility, pace and power all over the pitch, but especially in the middle third, was too much for ‘Screen.  Their support play and running off the ball was excellent, ‘Screen found it difficult to cope.  In fairness ‘Screen got back to within 2 points with about 20mins gone.  The 2nd goal, did a lot of damage.  And by half time a 7point lead did look extremely difficult to turnaround.

It really was game over just after half time, I thought ‘Screen could have dealt with the goal a bit better.  Anything after that point was really just seeing the game out.  McMullan’s save from the penalty was excellent, and although ‘Screen’s goal came shortly after that, there is no way the 4th goal should have been conceded.

There was some excellent battles over the course of the game – Heron/Rogers and McWilliams/Feeney, were the two best.  Brendan Herron was v influential for a good part of the game. McWilliams was doing a lot of the heavy lifting in and around midfield.  Anton probably wasn’t used as much as he should have been, he was in ff for about 15mins before anything was kicked in high.

Screen caused some problems with the rotational positions in the forward line.  There was an occasion were the closest S’neil man should have picked up Mulgrew (stand side), KMcK who was his marker, was on the terrace side covering someone else and the players decided to make the switch leaving Mulgrew free and McKaigue to cover a lot of ground to pick him up.  Of course the ball was kicked into Mulgrew for an easy possession.

S’neil will be delighted with the performance.  4-12 is excellent scoring, though they will be disappointed with a couple of poor choices in shot selection in the second half.  4-16 was probably achievable.  They could have emptied the subs bench a bit more, I don’t think they introduce a sub until the last 10mins or so.

From the stats after the game, its interesting to see that they are quite similar across the board, apart from the scores.  34 v 30 attacks, 24 v 24 shots, 7 v 8 wides, Kickouts won 21 v 21, Turn overs 12 v 13.

S’neil are worthy Champions, they’ve a tough run (from the prelim) through Ulster starting with Kilcoo or Burren and then the Tyrone Champs.  Keep the main men fit and flying and they could certainly go one better than last year.

Ref Watch
1.Penalty incidents in the first half.  Twice in quick succession, Anton was just barged in the back with no intent on playing the ball.  If that happened on a kick out it’s a free, plain and simple.

2.Philly Bradley was given a free in the first half for minimal contact, it was around head height, but there was nothing in it.  No calls from the players or crowd.  Very soft

3.In the second half Dermot McBride blocked a quick free, right under the nose of Mullan, but he refused to bring it forward.

4.The ball was played up the line to the S’neil corner forward, he fouled the Screen defender coming out with the ball, no free, play on.  S’neil man retained possession and was clearly fouled by the Screen defender, no free, play on.

5.Carlus playing a long ball into the ff line in the second half was hit as he was kicking it in.  Normally a free where the ball lands, nothing given.

6.Black Cards – there was a couple of drag downs, Feeney on Heron stands out for me, but there was a more than that.

Mullan had no impact on the scoreline.  He was very poor all over.  The S’neil contingent around us were convinced that he was favouring ‘Screen in the first half.  His poor performance and inaction could easily have led to a row breaking out.  He looked like a man that couldn’t really be bothered refereeing.  I certainly wouldn’t suggest in any way that there was bias to either side.

So Slaughtneil were worthy champions but it was the refs fault??

Just point out where I said it was the Ref’s fault.
In the next paragraph I said that he had no impact on the scoreline.
Points 2,3 and 4 were fouls/decisions that went against S’neil.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Link on September 25, 2017, 01:43:36 PM
Game Watch
S’neil were excellent throughout. 4 points inside the first 6 minutes set the tone and ‘Screen were on the back foot already.  S’neil’s mobility, pace and power all over the pitch, but especially in the middle third, was too much for ‘Screen.  Their support play and running off the ball was excellent, ‘Screen found it difficult to cope.  In fairness ‘Screen got back to within 2 points with about 20mins gone.  The 2nd goal, did a lot of damage.  And by half time a 7point lead did look extremely difficult to turnaround.

It really was game over just after half time, I thought ‘Screen could have dealt with the goal a bit better.  Anything after that point was really just seeing the game out.  McMullan’s save from the penalty was excellent, and although ‘Screen’s goal came shortly after that, there is no way the 4th goal should have been conceded.

There was some excellent battles over the course of the game – Heron/Rogers and McWilliams/Feeney, were the two best.  Brendan Herron was v influential for a good part of the game. McWilliams was doing a lot of the heavy lifting in and around midfield.  Anton probably wasn’t used as much as he should have been, he was in ff for about 15mins before anything was kicked in high.

Screen caused some problems with the rotational positions in the forward line.  There was an occasion were the closest S’neil man should have picked up Mulgrew (stand side), KMcK who was his marker, was on the terrace side covering someone else and the players decided to make the switch leaving Mulgrew free and McKaigue to cover a lot of ground to pick him up.  Of course the ball was kicked into Mulgrew for an easy possession.

S’neil will be delighted with the performance.  4-12 is excellent scoring, though they will be disappointed with a couple of poor choices in shot selection in the second half.  4-16 was probably achievable.  They could have emptied the subs bench a bit more, I don’t think they introduce a sub until the last 10mins or so.

From the stats after the game, its interesting to see that they are quite similar across the board, apart from the scores.  34 v 30 attacks, 24 v 24 shots, 7 v 8 wides, Kickouts won 21 v 21, Turn overs 12 v 13.

S’neil are worthy Champions, they’ve a tough run (from the prelim) through Ulster starting with Kilcoo or Burren and then the Tyrone Champs.  Keep the main men fit and flying and they could certainly go one better than last year.

Ref Watch
1.Penalty incidents in the first half.  Twice in quick succession, Anton was just barged in the back with no intent on playing the ball.  If that happened on a kick out it’s a free, plain and simple.

2.Philly Bradley was given a free in the first half for minimal contact, it was around head height, but there was nothing in it.  No calls from the players or crowd.  Very soft

3.In the second half Dermot McBride blocked a quick free, right under the nose of Mullan, but he refused to bring it forward.

4.The ball was played up the line to the S’neil corner forward, he fouled the Screen defender coming out with the ball, no free, play on.  S’neil man retained possession and was clearly fouled by the Screen defender, no free, play on.

5.Carlus playing a long ball into the ff line in the second half was hit as he was kicking it in.  Normally a free where the ball lands, nothing given.

6.Black Cards – there was a couple of drag downs, Feeney on Heron stands out for me, but there was a more than that.

Mullan had no impact on the scoreline.  He was very poor all over.  The S’neil contingent around us were convinced that he was favouring ‘Screen in the first half.  His poor performance and inaction could easily have led to a row breaking out.  He looked like a man that couldn’t really be bothered refereeing.  I certainly wouldn’t suggest in any way that there was bias to either side.

So Slaughtneil were worthy champions but it was the refs fault??

Think you should read the whole post before calling anyone out.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on September 25, 2017, 01:44:57 PM
Slaughtneil really impressive, better than the past few years.

I've seen a lot of football in Tyrone over the past 2 weekends and have also saw Cargin 2/3 times this year Slaughtneil are heads and shoulders above any of them. The runners they have (McKeagues, Roger, Feeny, Tad, Meehaul McGrath) coming from deep and the amount of support runners is unreal.

As someone mentioned already I also think they won very close to 100% of their own kickouts which is the base for their composed possession type brand of football.

Shé McGuigan/O'Doherty will not kill you on the scoreboard but are two great ball winners and will feed Sammy/Shane all day helping them rack up scores. On top of this they have a county standard defence. Karl McKeague is a great man marker, Chrissy leads everything, Feeny is tenacious and full of running, Rogers quite similar only a bigger build and Paul McNeil goes massively under rated, class act. Throw in The leadership/experience of Paul Bradley, Patsy Bradley and McEldowney and you have one hell of a team.

An absolute sure thing to dominate Derry football for the next 6-8 years. And if they continue to dive them selves on and don't loose hunger I honestly think they can go one step further than last year and will an AI club championship.

On a side note - Mullan was very poor. Didn't effect the result at all but some really questionable decisions. None more so than the foul on Anton Kelly in the first half that was a stone wall penalty.

Maybe something they've worked at continuously since the Corofin game?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 25, 2017, 02:14:09 PM
Slaughtneil really impressive, better than the past few years.

I've seen a lot of football in Tyrone over the past 2 weekends and have also saw Cargin 2/3 times this year Slaughtneil are heads and shoulders above any of them. The runners they have (McKeagues, Roger, Feeny, Tad, Meehaul McGrath) coming from deep and the amount of support runners is unreal.

As someone mentioned already I also think they won very close to 100% of their own kickouts which is the base for their composed possession type brand of football.

Shé McGuigan/O'Doherty will not kill you on the scoreboard but are two great ball winners and will feed Sammy/Shane all day helping them rack up scores. On top of this they have a county standard defence. Karl McKeague is a great man marker, Chrissy leads everything, Feeny is tenacious and full of running, Rogers quite similar only a bigger build and Paul McNeil goes massively under rated, class act. Throw in The leadership/experience of Paul Bradley, Patsy Bradley and McEldowney and you have one hell of a team.

An absolute sure thing to dominate Derry football for the next 6-8 years. And if they continue to dive them selves on and don't loose hunger I honestly think they can go one step further than last year and will an AI club championship.

On a side note - Mullan was very poor. Didn't effect the result at all but some really questionable decisions. None more so than the foul on Anton Kelly in the first half that was a stone wall penalty.

Maybe something they've worked at continuously since the Corofin game?

I would imagine so. They are twice the team now compared to the one vs Corofin.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Glenman93 on September 25, 2017, 02:19:49 PM
Game Watch
S’neil were excellent throughout. 4 points inside the first 6 minutes set the tone and ‘Screen were on the back foot already.  S’neil’s mobility, pace and power all over the pitch, but especially in the middle third, was too much for ‘Screen.  Their support play and running off the ball was excellent, ‘Screen found it difficult to cope.  In fairness ‘Screen got back to within 2 points with about 20mins gone.  The 2nd goal, did a lot of damage.  And by half time a 7point lead did look extremely difficult to turnaround.

It really was game over just after half time, I thought ‘Screen could have dealt with the goal a bit better.  Anything after that point was really just seeing the game out.  McMullan’s save from the penalty was excellent, and although ‘Screen’s goal came shortly after that, there is no way the 4th goal should have been conceded.

There was some excellent battles over the course of the game – Heron/Rogers and McWilliams/Feeney, were the two best.  Brendan Herron was v influential for a good part of the game. McWilliams was doing a lot of the heavy lifting in and around midfield.  Anton probably wasn’t used as much as he should have been, he was in ff for about 15mins before anything was kicked in high.

Screen caused some problems with the rotational positions in the forward line.  There was an occasion were the closest S’neil man should have picked up Mulgrew (stand side), KMcK who was his marker, was on the terrace side covering someone else and the players decided to make the switch leaving Mulgrew free and McKaigue to cover a lot of ground to pick him up.  Of course the ball was kicked into Mulgrew for an easy possession.

S’neil will be delighted with the performance.  4-12 is excellent scoring, though they will be disappointed with a couple of poor choices in shot selection in the second half.  4-16 was probably achievable.  They could have emptied the subs bench a bit more, I don’t think they introduce a sub until the last 10mins or so.

From the stats after the game, its interesting to see that they are quite similar across the board, apart from the scores.  34 v 30 attacks, 24 v 24 shots, 7 v 8 wides, Kickouts won 21 v 21, Turn overs 12 v 13.

S’neil are worthy Champions, they’ve a tough run (from the prelim) through Ulster starting with Kilcoo or Burren and then the Tyrone Champs.  Keep the main men fit and flying and they could certainly go one better than last year.

Ref Watch
1.Penalty incidents in the first half.  Twice in quick succession, Anton was just barged in the back with no intent on playing the ball.  If that happened on a kick out it’s a free, plain and simple.

2.Philly Bradley was given a free in the first half for minimal contact, it was around head height, but there was nothing in it.  No calls from the players or crowd.  Very soft

3.In the second half Dermot McBride blocked a quick free, right under the nose of Mullan, but he refused to bring it forward.

4.The ball was played up the line to the S’neil corner forward, he fouled the Screen defender coming out with the ball, no free, play on.  S’neil man retained possession and was clearly fouled by the Screen defender, no free, play on.

5.Carlus playing a long ball into the ff line in the second half was hit as he was kicking it in.  Normally a free where the ball lands, nothing given.

6.Black Cards – there was a couple of drag downs, Feeney on Heron stands out for me, but there was a more than that.

Mullan had no impact on the scoreline.  He was very poor all over.  The S’neil contingent around us were convinced that he was favouring ‘Screen in the first half.  His poor performance and inaction could easily have led to a row breaking out.  He looked like a man that couldn’t really be bothered refereeing.  I certainly wouldn’t suggest in any way that there was bias to either side.

So Slaughtneil were worthy champions but it was the refs fault??

Just point out where I said it was the Ref’s fault.
In the next paragraph I said that he had no impact on the scoreline.
Points 2,3 and 4 were fouls/decisions that went against S’neil.

Apologies - read the post too quickly.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on September 25, 2017, 03:02:47 PM
That was a tough one to take because I thought Slaughtneil hadn't played that well in the Championship to date and that we could put in a performance to ambush them. Little did I know they were looking to peak at the right time and they definitely have.

No point rehashing what others have said because I agree with the majority of it they played really well yesterday and probably a better performance than the Vincent's game, they will take some stopping in Ulster and further if they get there.

Screen along with the rest of the County will have to go back to the drawing board because it's going to take something special to beat this team. For Screen I think we have some good young lads coming through who can step up to the next level so hopefully we can see that over the next few years... we need to get back there again!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on September 25, 2017, 03:03:56 PM
I'm especially happy Slaughtneil won as it will have annoyed the 'Enda Gormley brigade' who were out in force here last week; but haven't been heard of since.

Should we send out a search party for Silverhill?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on September 25, 2017, 05:26:05 PM
Just a case of Draperstown shiting in the nest again. In their favour you have to give them credit for getting to a county final with the players they have. The referee in the semi final against Glen and yesterday was very biased towards Slaughtneil. Over and out
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on September 25, 2017, 08:51:17 PM
Just a case of Draperstown shiting in the nest again. In their favour you have to give them credit for getting to a county final with the players they have. The referee in the semi final against Glen and yesterday was very biased towards Slaughtneil. Over and out

Glistening summary from an informed and clearly well educated, football man.

An alternative view - maybe it was a case of being outclassed and well beaten by one of the best club sides of our generation?

I don’t know if you were at the game, but it clearly wasn’t a contest. Slaughtneil were magnificent.

Maybe Bellaghy could have made a game of it.

That’s right, we hammered them in the first round - the absolute shitbags.

I actually feel sorry for you. Every time you’re on here, you’re having a go at Screen.

Just imagine how nice a life you would have if you let go of all the bitterness.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 25, 2017, 09:33:02 PM
Just a case of Draperstown shiting in the nest again. In their favour you have to give them credit for getting to a county final with the players they have. The referee in the semi final against Glen and yesterday was very biased towards Slaughtneil. Over and out

Glistening summary from an informed and clearly well educated, football man.

An alternative view - maybe it was a case of being outclassed and well beaten by one of the best club sides of our generation?

I don’t know if you were at the game, but it clearly wasn’t a contest. Slaughtneil were magnificent.

Maybe Bellaghy could have made a game of it.

That’s right, we hammered them in the first round - the absolute shitbags.

I actually feel sorry for you. Every time you’re on here, you’re having a go at Screen.

Just imagine how nice a life you would have if you let go of all the bitterness.

It is tempting to respond to the wolf man talking out of his tone, however he is not a Bellaghy man with such pro british sentiment. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on September 26, 2017, 09:32:10 AM
Regarding the programme for the C'ship final, some of the articles in there were very good, but I was hoping for some information on previous finals... Eg Winners, Runners Up, Scorelines, Venue, MoTM, C'ship Top Scorer, etc..

Checked the Derry website and they only have recorded the winners.
Checked Wiki, they have some of the information. But it is still missing a lot of stuff, like the last 5 MoTM, 2 of the last 5 captains and the last 4 Top Scorers, plus the scoreline from the 2004 final.

Can anyone fill in the blanks on this, especially back beyond 2000, as the info for the 90's and 80's is very patchy.  Or point to an online location where I might find this information.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on September 26, 2017, 12:59:15 PM
I have kept them all in the 90s and 2000s, but they are at home and I'm not there unfortunately.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on September 26, 2017, 02:05:22 PM
Congratulations to the four members of Derry's Ulster Championship winning Minor team and this year's All Ireland Minor finalists on being selected on the Minor  County Team of 2017.

To be selected in any position is a great honour but to be picked in the four central positions of full back,centre half back,midfield and full forward is a particularly outstanding achievement.

So well done Conor McCluskey,Padraig McGrogan,Oisin McWilliams and Lorcan McWilliams.We hope and expect to see you again starring on Derry teams at all levels in the years to come.Hopefully many other Minors from Damian McErlain's management sides of the last three years will be joining you.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on September 26, 2017, 07:41:51 PM
Over the past three years Derry have produced an unusually high quota of outstanding Minor footballers, reaching three successive Ulster finals and winning two of them. As a fun exercise I have decided to select a team, from them, whom I definitely feel have the ability to be top class Senior inter county footballers ( to be fair outgoing Senior County manager Damian Barton has already initiated this process by selecting several of them at Senior level during his two year tenure.I have no doubt his former team colleague, new manager Damian McErlain, will continue to do likewise).
                                 
                                                   Ben McKinless
Niall Keenan                                Conor McGrogan                            Oisin Duffin
Michael McEvoy                            Conor Glass                                   Padraig McGrogan
                              Patrick Kearney                 Oisin McWilliams
Jack Doherty                                Callum  Brown                                Patrick Coney
Ben McCarron                               Lorcan McWilliams                         Shane McGuigan.

Many other players including  the talented Callum Mullan-Young,Conor McCluskey,Simon McErlain,Shea Downey,Conor Doherty,Paddy Quigg and Francis Kearney could easily be selected instead of the players mentioned above.Unfortunately, from a Derry perspective, it would appear at this stage that Conor Glass's rapid progress in the AFL will probably mean that he is unlikely to feature in a Derry jersey at least in the near future.

Let us all hope that all of the above will commit themselves to the County when and if they are asked to do so. Along with the hopeful availability of all the other best players in the County  our Senior team can make tremendous strides and  restore pride and success to our county.It has the potential both on and off the field to do so
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 27, 2017, 11:14:47 AM
I see Bellaghy haven't entered a team into the Derry u21 championship as they said it would hinder their chances in the minor championship.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 27, 2017, 01:23:55 PM
Did the committee met to review the video from the ogra v Doire Trasna game as i see the replay friday night!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on September 27, 2017, 01:40:38 PM
Two things
Toby, it's none of your business whether we put in an u21 or not but I don't agree with it

Wild weasel . I've been reliably informed that the fat Douretrasna referee had a long conversation with Harry Tohill after that game
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 27, 2017, 02:08:45 PM
Two things
Toby, it's none of your business whether we put in an u21 or not but I don't agree with it

Wild weasel . I've been reliably informed that the fat Douretrasna referee had a long conversation with Harry Tohill after that game

Lol, ratty. Joke club
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on September 27, 2017, 08:21:12 PM
Two things
Toby, it's none of your business whether we put in an u21 or not but I don't agree with it

Wild weasel . I've been reliably informed that the fat Douretrasna referee had a long conversation with Harry Tohill after that game

Now now, this is not the tone of united Irishmen.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 02, 2017, 09:04:28 PM
As it is over five days since anyone posted I thought maybe all GAA supporters in the county had transferred their allegiance elsewhere!!So I have decided to stimulate some debate by asking posters to pick their County All Star Club championship 15( players to be numbered in the traditional fashion ie 1-15) either at Senior,Intermediate or Junior levels.Their final selections should be based on actual performances in this year's competitions.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 03, 2017, 08:36:32 AM
1)   McMullan – Slaughtneil
2)   McKaigue – Slaughtneil
3)   Rogers – Slaughtneil
4)   McNeil – Slaughtneil
5)   Feeny – Slaughtneil
6)   Mckaigue – Slaughtneil
7)   Brooks – Newbridge
8)   Bateson – Newbridge
9)   Bradley – Glen
10)   McGrath Slaughtneil
11)   Bradley – Slaughtneil
12)   McGuigan – Slaughtneil
13)   Sammy – Slaughtneil
14)   Herron – Screen
15)   Conway - Quigan


Unlucky to miss out - Sweeny (Newbridge) Sweeny (F'vale) McFaul (Glen) McBride (Screen) Burke (Newbridge)

Also never seen any junior championship matches this year so can't include anyone.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: drillsergeant on October 03, 2017, 01:22:36 PM
1)   McMullan – Slaughtneil
2)   McKaigue – Slaughtneil
3)   Rogers – Slaughtneil
4)   McNeil – Slaughtneil
5)   Feeny – Slaughtneil
6)   Mckaigue – Slaughtneil
7)   Brooks – Newbridge
8)   Bateson – Newbridge
9)   Bradley – Glen
10)   McGrath Slaughtneil
11)   Bradley – Slaughtneil
12)   McGuigan – Slaughtneil
13)   Sammy – Slaughtneil
14)   Herron – Screen
15)   Conway - Quigan


Unlucky to miss out - Sweeny (Newbridge) Sweeny (F'vale) McFaul (Glen) McBride (Screen) Burke (Newbridge)

Also never seen any junior championship matches this year so can't include anyone.

No Greenlough players toby47?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 03, 2017, 02:16:54 PM
1)   McMullan – Slaughtneil
2)   McKaigue – Slaughtneil
3)   Rogers – Slaughtneil
4)   McNeil – Slaughtneil
5)   Feeny – Slaughtneil
6)   Mckaigue – Slaughtneil
7)   Brooks – Newbridge
8)   Bateson – Newbridge
9)   Bradley – Glen
10)   McGrath Slaughtneil
11)   Bradley – Slaughtneil
12)   McGuigan – Slaughtneil
13)   Sammy – Slaughtneil
14)   Herron – Screen
15)   Conway - Quigan


Unlucky to miss out - Sweeny (Newbridge) Sweeny (F'vale) McFaul (Glen) McBride (Screen) Burke (Newbridge)

Also never seen any junior championship matches this year so can't include anyone.

No Greenlough players toby47?

Ah, genuine mistake. Loughlin in for Conway and Lynn in the unlucky pile. People might say more deserve a say but we have to remember they beat Glenullin (just promoted) and Banagher (just relegated)
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 05, 2017, 12:37:13 PM
Hearing Damien McErlaine picked/met his panel on Tuesday night. Couple of Coleraine men on the panel, however not as many as I'd have liked. Obviously still early yet.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: drillsergeant on October 05, 2017, 02:09:19 PM
1)   McMullan – Slaughtneil
2)   McKaigue – Slaughtneil
3)   Rogers – Slaughtneil
4)   McNeil – Slaughtneil
5)   Feeny – Slaughtneil
6)   Mckaigue – Slaughtneil
7)   Brooks – Newbridge
8)   Bateson – Newbridge
9)   Bradley – Glen
10)   McGrath Slaughtneil
11)   Bradley – Slaughtneil
12)   McGuigan – Slaughtneil
13)   Sammy – Slaughtneil
14)   Herron – Screen
15)   Conway - Quigan


Unlucky to miss out - Sweeny (Newbridge) Sweeny (F'vale) McFaul (Glen) McBride (Screen) Burke (Newbridge)

Also never seen any junior championship matches this year so can't include anyone.

No Greenlough players toby47?

Ah, genuine mistake. Loughlin in for Conway and Lynn in the unlucky pile. People might say more deserve a say but we have to remember they beat Glenullin (just promoted) and Banagher (just relegated)

Toby47 you werent far away from your Derry Club Allstar selections, this was the Irish News Derry Club Allstar selections; Still think there are few unlucky players that wasn't included.

1.McMullan (Slaughtneil)
2.McBride (Screen)
3.Rodgers (Slaughtneil)
4.K McKaigue (Slaughtneil)
5.McWilliams (Screen)
6.C McKaigue (Slaughtneil)
7.McEldowney (Slaughtneil)
8.Bradley (Slaughtneil)
9.Heron (Screen)
10.Sammy (Slaughtneil)
11.Mulgrew (Ballinascreen)
12.Lynn (Greenlough)
13.Shane McGuigan (Slaughtneil)
14.Se McGuigan (Slaughtneil)
15.Loughlin (Greenlough)
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on October 05, 2017, 10:40:08 PM
Two Greenlough players on it and they play nobody of consequences to get to the semi. We were the only team who put it up Slaughtneil, surely in that basis we could have had one representative. Not that give a tot about it
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 05, 2017, 11:00:09 PM
Why who was outstanding in that 1 game from swatragh to get on the 15; saying the team based on the whole club championship of which greenlough played 3 games
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on October 07, 2017, 01:22:17 PM
Swatragh #6 James?? Kearney was best player on the pitch against Slaughtneil.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on October 07, 2017, 10:28:28 PM
Ballinderry won the Reserve Final against Kilrea this evening.
Final Score: 3-17 to 0-12.
If you want to see highlights from the melees (both on the pitch and in the stand) head on over to the Tommy French Sports Betting Facebook page. Not sure how or why they are posted there. But you’ll find a couple of videos.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: paddyjohn on October 07, 2017, 10:39:35 PM
Disgusting and appalling scenes. Kick both clubs out of adult competition for a season.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: ONEDerry on October 07, 2017, 10:52:32 PM
Disgusting and appalling scenes. Kick both clubs out of adult competition for a season.

Not a thing will happen. Weak powerless people in charge who will play it all down as not being as bad as what happened in the good auld days.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 07, 2017, 11:46:35 PM
Disgusting and appalling scenes. Kick both clubs out of adult competition for a season.
You are correct. How do they deal with this in Antrim?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Low and Hard on October 08, 2017, 03:24:18 AM
Was at the game and first and formost was a good gam with some high quality football played. With regards the row have to say it was started by kilrea completely. Ballinderry we're winning easy and last min, kilrea couldn't take it. A number of kilrea ones let their club down a bagful today.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on October 08, 2017, 12:03:59 PM
Good to see Derry club football getting national recognition. We’re so proud.

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/massive-brawl-derry-club-final-turns-ugly-spills-stands-138929
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: thebuzz on October 08, 2017, 04:12:47 PM
Great to see Slaughtneil get to another Ulster Final. Thought Dunloy would have too much for them. Glad I was wrong.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 08, 2017, 07:26:22 PM
Great atmosphere in An Abhainn Bheag today, crowd still coming in right up to halftime.  They will leave earlier the next time! 6,000 there, great first half but Slaughtneil bossed the game from 15 mins on.  A couple of Dunloy boys decided to tackle Chrissy late on, when it was too late. They didn't stay on their feet too long!  Cormac O'Doherty superb. Very mature performance from the Ulster Champions.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: 36-03-09 on October 08, 2017, 09:17:03 PM
When Ballinderry can beat officials and cry their way out of a punishment, do you think there'll be any meaningful consequence here? Bunch of savages, backed by a spineless board.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Low and Hard on October 08, 2017, 10:05:14 PM
When Ballinderry can beat officials and cry their way out of a punishment, do you think there'll be any meaningful consequence here? Bunch of savages, backed by a spineless board.
Were you at the game chap?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: NatSoSaff on October 09, 2017, 09:18:05 AM
Hearing Damien McErlaine picked/met his panel on Tuesday night. Couple of Coleraine men on the panel, however not as many as I'd have liked. Obviously still early yet.

Any big shock omissions or additions/returns to the Derry senior panel?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 09, 2017, 10:06:33 AM
Hearing Damien McErlaine picked/met his panel on Tuesday night. Couple of Coleraine men on the panel, however not as many as I'd have liked. Obviously still early yet.

Any big shock omissions or additions/returns to the Derry senior panel?

Heard Mark Lynch, James Kielt and Danny Heavron aren't part of it. Very youthful squad
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: honthecounty on October 09, 2017, 05:02:21 PM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mountain Gael on October 09, 2017, 07:24:22 PM
Heard that today myself. Also a few players have said 'no' to damians invite to join the panel. I really am concerned even before the season starts as the vibes are not good.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on October 09, 2017, 08:00:25 PM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?

It’ll be very interesting to see this panel. If Benny heron and Danny heavron aren’t on it will be a major shock as they are the prototype athletic modern day footballer and both are top quality players.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 09, 2017, 11:38:39 PM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?

It’ll be very interesting to see this panel. If Benny heron and Danny heavron aren’t on it will be a major shock as they are the prototype athletic modern day footballer and both are top quality players.
Would be surprised if they do not feature at some stage next year. Very early to be deciding on a squad. Division 3 football will require some experienced hands on board so hopefully no doors have been shut tight yet.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: NatSoSaff on October 10, 2017, 09:02:54 AM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?

It’ll be very interesting to see this panel. If Benny heron and Danny heavron aren’t on it will be a major shock as they are the prototype athletic modern day footballer and both are top quality players.

Hearing last night that Herron nor Heavron have been included in the Derry panel and that neither have been spoken to in any regard by the manager. These two lads along with James Kielt have been probably our best and most consistent operators in the Derry jersey over the past few seasons! What is the thinking behind it? Surely they'll be returning/called up for the league? Correct me if i'm wrong but arent these players all around the 25/26 year old mark? Prime age!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: honthecounty on October 10, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
Time will tell, biggest game of the season so far arguably in Newry on Sunday, hopefully another winter of following Slaughtneil ahead. Good luck to Newbridge as well, fancy them to do well in Ulster however Moy will be tough to turn over. Junior Final on Saturday also, if its anything like lasts years it should be a cracker with the Magilligan and Drum game was the game of the day that day.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 10:24:36 AM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?

It’ll be very interesting to see this panel. If Benny heron and Danny heavron aren’t on it will be a major shock as they are the prototype athletic modern day footballer and both are top quality players.

Hearing last night that Herron nor Heavron have been included in the Derry panel and that neither have been spoken to in any regard by the manager. These two lads along with James Kielt have been probably our best and most consistent operators in the Derry jersey over the past few seasons! What is the thinking behind it? Surely they'll be returning/called up for the league? Correct me if i'm wrong but arent these players all around the 25/26 year old mark? Prime age!

Benny would be 25/26 I think and Kielt and Heavron around 28 as both were on the same minor team. Not sure the thinking behind it at all but if Damien expects to do well with the majority of his squad being u21 then it's just as naive as playing 40 yards of space in front of Clifford. Also if Slaughtneil come out of ulster again that's another 4/5 key players missing the first few league games which could have a lasting impact on the season.

Saying that, in Barton's two years they pulled Tyrone out of the hat in first round of ulster. A kinder draw this year could maybe help Derry gain a bit of confidence but from what i'm hearing early on the signs aren't good.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on October 10, 2017, 11:22:17 AM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?

It’ll be very interesting to see this panel. If Benny heron and Danny heavron aren’t on it will be a major shock as they are the prototype athletic modern day footballer and both are top quality players.

Hearing last night that Herron nor Heavron have been included in the Derry panel and that neither have been spoken to in any regard by the manager. These two lads along with James Kielt have been probably our best and most consistent operators in the Derry jersey over the past few seasons! What is the thinking behind it? Surely they'll be returning/called up for the league? Correct me if i'm wrong but arent these players all around the 25/26 year old mark? Prime age!

Benny would be 25/26 I think and Kielt and Heavron around 28 as both were on the same minor team. Not sure the thinking behind it at all but if Damien expects to do well with the majority of his squad being u21 then it's just as naive as playing 40 yards of space in front of Clifford. Also if Slaughtneil come out of ulster again that's another 4/5 key players missing the first few league games which could have a lasting impact on the season.

Saying that, in Barton's two years they pulled Tyrone out of the hat in first round of ulster. A kinder draw this year could maybe help Derry gain a bit of confidence but from what i'm hearing early on the signs aren't good.

Ah ffs, the state of Derry and its football perfectly summed up in a few words in early October
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 10, 2017, 11:41:32 AM
Re the make up of the new Derry Senior football panel maybe, like what some of our previous managers did, Damian McErlain has selected a Provisional panel of some experienced players mixed with a large coterie of U21 players for pre season and McKenna Cup purposes. Then like them he picks a more stable panel which includes all the best players in the County for the League.

If that is not the case and Heavron,Kielt  Heron and others are not selected on a permanent basis then there will be a lot of difficult questions to be answered.

Either way for the sake of the stability and future of Derry football Damian has to issue a statement announcing his intentions for the coming season.Players officials and supporters do not need any more uncertainty re our Senior football team. We need a clear unambiguous plan which includes ALL of our best players,  irrespective of age and previous unavailability, playing again for our county.We have suffered long enough.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: NatSoSaff on October 10, 2017, 11:54:33 AM
Re the make up of the new Derry Senior football panel maybe, like what some of our previous managers did, Damian McErlain has selected a Provisional panel of some experienced players mixed with a large coterie of U21 players for pre season and McKenna Cup purposes. Then like them he picks a more stable panel which includes all the best players in the County for the League.

If that is not the case and Heavron,Kielt  Heron and others are not selected on a permanent basis then there will be a lot of difficult questions to be answered.

Either way for the sake of the stability and future of Derry football Damian has to issue a statement announcing his intentions for the coming season.Players officials and supporters do not need any more uncertainty re our Senior football team. We need a clear unambiguous plan which includes ALL of our best players,  irrespective of age and previous unavailability, playing again for our county.We have suffered long enough.

Completely agree, hopefully he wil shed some light on his plans shortly and we can all get behind the team. Just hope no bridges have been burnt already!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 01:16:58 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: DERRYSFINEST on October 10, 2017, 01:19:59 PM
Sucky Bell and Postie NOT on panel
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 01:20:46 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

don't know how an starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

As far as i know postie did not get a call. Banagher keeper is up apparently , from what i seen of him this year he was decent
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 10, 2017, 01:22:02 PM
Does anyone know if Sean Brady made the panel?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shawshank on October 10, 2017, 01:36:05 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

Is it not an initial panel of 26 players with the SN players to be added.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Low and Hard on October 10, 2017, 01:53:28 PM
What is the panel? Or how do people know who haven't made it.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: honthecounty on October 10, 2017, 02:23:36 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

From what i heat Lynch has the option to be included and is taking time to think about it. Has been a great servant for his county.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 02:27:20 PM
Sean Brady is not on panel.

Can confirm it is not an initial panel with senior players to be added as Chrissy McKaigue, Ciaran McFaul, Enda Lynn, Karl McKaigue, Carlus McWilliams and others are on it.

Also talking to a club mate of one of the high profile players left out. He said the player found out through one of the players who had been asked up to the panel and has heard no word from management yet as to why he was left out. I don't expect squad players who have been called up close to championship to get a personal phone call as to why he hasn't been picked the following year but if a player gives 6 or 7 years to the county and is one of the more dedicated players and leading performers within the group surely a phone call from new management is the way to go?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 02:37:15 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

From what i heat Lynch has the option to be included and is taking time to think about it. Has been a great servant for his county.

Don't understand why Heavron isn't on the panel, he's been one of if not the our most consistent performers. Really strange call
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 02:39:56 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

From what i heat Lynch has the option to be included and is taking time to think about it. Has been a great servant for his county.

Don't understand why Heavron isn't on the panel, he's been one of if not the our most consistent performers. Really strange call

Perhaps himself and McErlean had a rift a club level, only thing I could maybe think off.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 10, 2017, 04:06:51 PM
Before this uncertainty,real or imagined,gets further out of hand re the new Derry football panel,provisional or otherwise,  Damian McErlain needs to explain immediately where this whole process is at.If that is done then we can at least make a realistic judgment call of where exactly he and his management team see the future of all the best players in the County.

Our players and supporters deserve  at least to know what their plans are.
Hopefully it is only a lack of proper communication which has created  all of this uncertainty.

As a successful  minor manager Damian was renowned for his communication and man-management skills.

Let us hope that the future of our Senior team under his stewardship will display that same unity of purpose where all of our best players are part of the new set-up( at least eventually).
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on October 10, 2017, 04:12:38 PM
Before this uncertainty,real or imagined,gets further out of hand re the new Derry football panel,provisional or otherwise,  Damian McErlain needs to explain immediately where this whole process is at.If that is done then we can at least make a realistic judgment call of where exactly he and his management team see the future of all the best players in the County.

Our players and supporters deserve  at least to know what their plans are.
Hopefully it is only a lack of proper communication which has created  all of this uncertainty.

As a successful  minor manager Damian was renowned for his communication and man-management skills.

Let us hope that the future of our Senior team under his stewardship will display that same unity of purpose where all of our best players are part of the new set-up( at least eventually).

Holy God lads it's October I wouldn't be worrying about who's in the panel or not until after Christmas at the very least... Calm down!

Let's wait until we see a National League or a Championship panel until we start judging we haven't even played a match yet!!!!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on October 10, 2017, 04:14:32 PM
Some of the names being mentioned as not being asked are baffling, but it' very very early days. There has to be a certain amount of flexibilty eg you can't expect the likes of big Mark to be wheeled out for the cardinal o'fiaich and kept at it until championship. It'll be interesting to see the senior panel for next year. Looking forward to the Div 3 campaign. They'll be a few ding-dong battles

Div 3 Final (Sat @ CP) prediction

Limavady v Doire Trasna   (Trasna by 4)


 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 10, 2017, 08:11:40 PM
Derry county board fixtures committee strike again !  we have at least 9 of our under 21s involved with our senior panel with 5 or 6 probable starters and they fix our under 21 semi final  against Claudy for this Friday  2days before we play in the first round of the Ulster club ,  you couldn't make it up !!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 10, 2017, 10:02:05 PM
It seems there was 3 separate melees at the Ballinderry - Kilrea game, according to the papers, abit like Winston Churchhill opening WW2 speech we fight them on the beaches, in the stands, and if u still standing the carpark after.

On a serious note that 3 bad fights in the county in 3 week running with that one, the intermediate final and the Ogra - Doire Trasna game, Nothing was done with that one even though on tape, wonder how the other 2 will turn out,
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: North Man on October 10, 2017, 10:07:29 PM
When was the fight at the intermediate final ?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 10, 2017, 10:08:39 PM
 A ruthless management team and panel is what's needed,

I go rather with a management that brings tactics instead of playing 1on1 with the best player in the country at minor level. Tactical nouse on that one - Zero

Another would be to pick the best players in the county if they are available, some of the players mentioned  not on the panel are the best in the county presently,
i would expect the panel to change after christmas

Can someone put up the preliminary panel?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 10, 2017, 10:09:36 PM
When was the fight at the intermediate final ?

 Sorry Intermediate reserve!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: North Man on October 10, 2017, 10:15:47 PM
Dungiven and Sneil 3rd teams ??
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 11, 2017, 09:25:23 AM
Only one I was at was the Dungiven thirds vs Slaughtneil thirds last week in Draperstown, boxing on the pitch and in the stands. We all saw the video's of Kilrea vs Ballinderry and I never saw the Ogra/Trasna one. Dungiven/Swatragh supposedly had a right wee rumble last week in the u21's with a supporter or two jumping the wire.

Cannot condone any of these incidents however any club would feel hard done by now with a large punishment when so many previous melee's have been ignored. example, a brawl between Glenullin vs Foreglen a couple of years ago in a playoff in Owenbeg was all over the internet and I don't remember any suspensions or punishment handed out.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on October 11, 2017, 09:53:23 AM
There has been some amount of over-reaction to one team meeting, and the apparent notion that these will be the only players considered for the Championship in 8mnths time.  As a previous poster has stated – its October. The management team has only been in place since the minor final, just over 3 weeks ago, and already the Warriors are out in force. 

Its like they want to be fit to say “I told you so”, if it does go wrong, and then they’ll be able to quote themselves from October and give themselves a pat on the back as they got it right long before a ball was kicked in anger.
There has been some list of demands already, Posters wanted a full run down of the lads at the first meeting of the year.  Posters want statements issued from the management for the sake of the stability and future of Derry football!?!

So here is my list of demands from the new Derry management:
1.   A personal phone call to explain why I wasn’t at the first meeting and why I’m not require this year.
2.   A personal profile of each and every member of the initial panel. Plus 5 reasons why they were selected ahead of others.
3.   A explanation of their views on the Colm Cooper testimonial.
4.   A complete training schedule, including but not limited to:
        a.   Individual training plans
        b.   When/Where the gym work is taking place
        c.   The drills that will be done on the pitch. (including sketches/drawings)
5.   A thesis on where county matches should take place.  Should we continue with Owenbeg/Celtic Park, or should we   
        take the games around the county.
6.   A total rundown of their tactical plans, including but not limited to:
        a.   Are we going to play with a sweeper?
        b.   Who is going to play this role?
        c.   Will we play with 3 in the ff line? Give reasons
        d.   Will we set up in the same way for every game?
        e.   How do you see the role of the goalkeeper? Will there be rotation in the position during pre-season?
7.   A comment regarding the awful pinky coloured jersey that Derry had to wear 14/15years ago.

And finally…

8.   I would like an input on who is going to be captain and vice-captain for the current season.
     

I hope the management team deal with this as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on October 11, 2017, 11:08:53 AM
Yeah, and the really hilarious part of it is that we have only about 400/500 supporters who regularly attend the games.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on October 11, 2017, 12:50:35 PM
There has been some amount of over-reaction to one team meeting, and the apparent notion that these will be the only players considered for the Championship in 8mnths time.  As a previous poster has stated – its October. The management team has only been in place since the minor final, just over 3 weeks ago, and already the Warriors are out in force. 

Its like they want to be fit to say “I told you so”, if it does go wrong, and then they’ll be able to quote themselves from October and give themselves a pat on the back as they got it right long before a ball was kicked in anger.
There has been some list of demands already, Posters wanted a full run down of the lads at the first meeting of the year.  Posters want statements issued from the management for the sake of the stability and future of Derry football!?!

So here is my list of demands from the new Derry management:
1.   A personal phone call to explain why I wasn’t at the first meeting and why I’m not require this year.
2.   A personal profile of each and every member of the initial panel. Plus 5 reasons why they were selected ahead of others.
3.   A explanation of their views on the Colm Cooper testimonial.
4.   A complete training schedule, including but not limited to:
        a.   Individual training plans
        b.   When/Where the gym work is taking place
        c.   The drills that will be done on the pitch. (including sketches/drawings)
5.   A thesis on where county matches should take place.  Should we continue with Owenbeg/Celtic Park, or should we   
        take the games around the county.
6.   A total rundown of their tactical plans, including but not limited to:
        a.   Are we going to play with a sweeper?
        b.   Who is going to play this role?
        c.   Will we play with 3 in the ff line? Give reasons
        d.   Will we set up in the same way for every game?
        e.   How do you see the role of the goalkeeper? Will there be rotation in the position during pre-season?
7.   A comment regarding the awful pinky coloured jersey that Derry had to wear 14/15years ago.

And finally…

8.   I would like an input on who is going to be captain and vice-captain for the current season.
     

I hope the management team deal with this as soon as possible.

Best post in a long time  :)
so many pretending to be behind the new management. Give them a chance and trust them to do the right things.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 12, 2017, 12:00:05 AM
There has been some amount of over-reaction to one team meeting, and the apparent notion that these will be the only players considered for the Championship in 8mnths time.  As a previous poster has stated – its October. The management team has only been in place since the minor final, just over 3 weeks ago, and already the Warriors are out in force. 

Its like they want to be fit to say “I told you so”, if it does go wrong, and then they’ll be able to quote themselves from October and give themselves a pat on the back as they got it right long before a ball was kicked in anger.
There has been some list of demands already, Posters wanted a full run down of the lads at the first meeting of the year.  Posters want statements issued from the management for the sake of the stability and future of Derry football!?!

So here is my list of demands from the new Derry management:
1.   A personal phone call to explain why I wasn’t at the first meeting and why I’m not require this year.
2.   A personal profile of each and every member of the initial panel. Plus 5 reasons why they were selected ahead of others.
3.   A explanation of their views on the Colm Cooper testimonial.
4.   A complete training schedule, including but not limited to:
        a.   Individual training plans
        b.   When/Where the gym work is taking place
        c.   The drills that will be done on the pitch. (including sketches/drawings)
5.   A thesis on where county matches should take place.  Should we continue with Owenbeg/Celtic Park, or should we   
        take the games around the county.
6.   A total rundown of their tactical plans, including but not limited to:
        a.   Are we going to play with a sweeper?
        b.   Who is going to play this role?
        c.   Will we play with 3 in the ff line? Give reasons
        d.   Will we set up in the same way for every game?
        e.   How do you see the role of the goalkeeper? Will there be rotation in the position during pre-season?
7.   A comment regarding the awful pinky coloured jersey that Derry had to wear 14/15years ago.

And finally…

8.   I would like an input on who is going to be captain and vice-captain for the current season.
     

I hope the management team deal with this as soon as possible.

Best post in a long time  :)
so many pretending to be behind the new management. Give them a chance and trust them to do the right things.

Trust is crucial.  Not sure the trust is as strong after the Clifford disaster. Lack of plan A, no plan B. what was the planning/preparation in training? 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on October 12, 2017, 12:05:57 AM
For fucksake lads; it was only a Junior standard fight , not a punch was on target. The fighting in the other games were reserve standard.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 12, 2017, 12:18:05 AM
For fucksake lads; it was only a Junior stand fight , not a punch was on target. The fighting in the other games were reserve standard.
No comment please until we see the referee's report.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: NatSoSaff on October 12, 2017, 09:37:50 AM
There has been some amount of over-reaction to one team meeting, and the apparent notion that these will be the only players considered for the Championship in 8mnths time.  As a previous poster has stated – its October. The management team has only been in place since the minor final, just over 3 weeks ago, and already the Warriors are out in force. 

Its like they want to be fit to say “I told you so”, if it does go wrong, and then they’ll be able to quote themselves from October and give themselves a pat on the back as they got it right long before a ball was kicked in anger.
There has been some list of demands already, Posters wanted a full run down of the lads at the first meeting of the year.  Posters want statements issued from the management for the sake of the stability and future of Derry football!?!

So here is my list of demands from the new Derry management:
1.   A personal phone call to explain why I wasn’t at the first meeting and why I’m not require this year.
2.   A personal profile of each and every member of the initial panel. Plus 5 reasons why they were selected ahead of others.
3.   A explanation of their views on the Colm Cooper testimonial.
4.   A complete training schedule, including but not limited to:
        a.   Individual training plans
        b.   When/Where the gym work is taking place
        c.   The drills that will be done on the pitch. (including sketches/drawings)
5.   A thesis on where county matches should take place.  Should we continue with Owenbeg/Celtic Park, or should we   
        take the games around the county.
6.   A total rundown of their tactical plans, including but not limited to:
        a.   Are we going to play with a sweeper?
        b.   Who is going to play this role?
        c.   Will we play with 3 in the ff line? Give reasons
        d.   Will we set up in the same way for every game?
        e.   How do you see the role of the goalkeeper? Will there be rotation in the position during pre-season?
7.   A comment regarding the awful pinky coloured jersey that Derry had to wear 14/15years ago.

And finally…

8.   I would like an input on who is going to be captain and vice-captain for the current season.
     

I hope the management team deal with this as soon as possible.

That would be great actually  ;D
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on October 14, 2017, 04:53:27 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

CHAMPIONEEES!!! 🏆🏆🏆🏆
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 14, 2017, 06:48:15 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from
If you were still waiting for the result at 4.44, time to move out your time zone!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on October 14, 2017, 06:51:47 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Well done to our lads today! Well worth their victory.

Bellaghy fall at the last hurdle, a repeat of 2005.

Best of luck to Screen in Ulster!

Nothing beats winning with your friends.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 14, 2017, 07:30:25 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Well done to our lads today! Well worth their victory.

Bellaghy fall at the last hurdle, a repeat of 2005.

Best of luck to Screen in Ulster!

Nothing beats winning with your friends.

The behaviour of some of your management team as Bellaghy tried to take an equalising free was totally unacceptable and a Screen player also walked right into the freetaker's face, sledging him as he went.  How the free was not brought forward is a mystery. Referee was an absolute disgrace, out of his depth, so a somewhat hollow victory for Screen unfortunately, as Bellaghy also missed two penalties and played last quarter with 14 due to more ref-interference from Screen sideline. Screen gave a better team performance than Bellaghy on the day and won in the end but Screen won no extra friends today with some of their antics, a minority, but grown men who should know better.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on October 14, 2017, 07:43:32 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Well done to our lads today! Well worth their victory.

Bellaghy fall at the last hurdle, a repeat of 2005.

Best of luck to Screen in Ulster!

Nothing beats winning with your friends.

The behaviour of some of your management team as Bellaghy tried to take an equalising free was totally unacceptable and a Screen player also walked right into the freetaker's face, sledging him as he went.  How the free was not brought forward is a mystery. Referee was an absolute disgrace, out of his depth, so a somewhat hollow victory for Screen unfortunately, as Bellaghy also missed two penalties and played last quarter with 14 due to more ref-interference from Screen sideline. Screen gave a better team performance than Bellaghy on the day and won in the end but Screen won no extra friends today with some of their antics, a minority, but grown men who should know better.

Nonsense... had you been to many of these games previously you’ll know that kind of stuff has been going on for 4 years now with no complaints from us and in fairness there were no complaints from Bellaghy after the match. It was a tough hard fought match but I agree the ref was not great that 2nd penalty was never a penalty and I thought no. 5’s first yellow was quite harsh.

The free at the end had already been brought forward so couldn’t be brought forward again!

Well done to all our lads today having been heartbroken against this Bellaghy team on at least 4 occasions previously in big matches they stood up today and said it was not going to happen again. I thought personally it would be a tall order without JP Devlin but the lads never stopped throughout.

Special mention to our goalkeeper Ryan Scullion who made 4 fantastic saves it was the kind of performance you dream about he was brilliant!

Going by the Feile a few years ago Screen and Bellaghy went on to contest an All Ireland Semi Final so hopefully we can go well in Ulster!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on October 14, 2017, 07:52:38 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Well done to our lads today! Well worth their victory.

Bellaghy fall at the last hurdle, a repeat of 2005.

Best of luck to Screen in Ulster!

Nothing beats winning with your friends.

The behaviour of some of your management team as Bellaghy tried to take an equalising free was totally unacceptable and a Screen player also walked right into the freetaker's face, sledging him as he went.  How the free was not brought forward is a mystery. Referee was an absolute disgrace, out of his depth, so a somewhat hollow victory for Screen unfortunately, as Bellaghy also missed two penalties and played last quarter with 14 due to more ref-interference from Screen sideline. Screen gave a better team performance than Bellaghy on the day and won in the end but Screen won no extra friends today with some of their antics, a minority, but grown men who should know better.

Bellaghy players or management don't need any lessons in sledging. They were up to their usual antics in the semifinal against us. Glad to see Screen beat them today and not that surprised. I always thought screen had the better players out of the 2 teams and better team players.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 07:54:22 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from
If you were still waiting for the result at 4.44, time to move out your time zone!
it was a said with a hint of sarcasm because when I seen the result I knew TFAL wouldn't be seen on this board for months because of the fool he's made himself into. He was already a tube,now he's a fool. Congratulations to Ballinascreen,you have helped this thread. PS I had to laugh at you're last comment on here when you blame the referee whilst admitting Bellaghy had been awarded 2 penalty. 2 penalties that were missed-lol
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 14, 2017, 08:15:11 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Well done to our lads today! Well worth their victory.

Bellaghy fall at the last hurdle, a repeat of 2005.

Best of luck to Screen in Ulster!

Nothing beats winning with your friends.

The behaviour of some of your management team as Bellaghy tried to take an equalising free was totally unacceptable and a Screen player also walked right into the freetaker's face, sledging him as he went.  How the free was not brought forward is a mystery. Referee was an absolute disgrace, out of his depth, so a somewhat hollow victory for Screen unfortunately, as Bellaghy also missed two penalties and played last quarter with 14 due to more ref-interference from Screen sideline. Screen gave a better team performance than Bellaghy on the day and won in the end but Screen won no extra friends today with some of their antics, a minority, but grown men who should know better.

Bellaghy players or management don't need any lessons in sledging. They were up to their usual antics in the semifinal against us. Glad to see Screen beat them today and not that surprised. I always thought screen had the better players out of the 2 teams and better team players.
Sledging is wrong no matter where it comes from.  Are you trying to justify it? Screen had indeed better team players, in fact that was the key to their victory but still does not condone the antics in the last five minutes. Mind you, when there are role models like Lee Keegan at the top table ...?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 14, 2017, 08:21:56 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from
If you were still waiting for the result at 4.44, time to move out your time zone!
it was a said with a hint of sarcasm because when I seen the result I knew TFAL wouldn't be seen on this board for months because of the fool he's made himself into. He was already a tube,now he's a fool. Congratulations to Ballinascreen,you have helped this thread. PS I had to laugh at you're last comment on here when you blame the referee whilst admitting Bellaghy had been awarded 2 penalty. 2 penalties that were missed-lol

Clearly you can't spell but not being able to read is a huge disadvantage. If TFAL is never again on the board it will be too soon. It still does not alter what unfolded today.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 08:54:19 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from
If you were still waiting for the result at 4.44, time to move out your time zone!
it was a said with a hint of sarcasm because when I seen the result I knew TFAL wouldn't be seen on this board for months because of the fool he's made himself into. He was already a tube,now he's a fool. Congratulations to Ballinascreen,you have helped this thread. PS I had to laugh at you're last comment on here when you blame the referee whilst admitting Bellaghy had been awarded 2 penalty. 2 penalties that were missed-lol

Clearly you can't spell but not being able to read is a huge disadvantage. If TFAL is never again on the board it will be too soon. It still does not alter what unfolded today.
I was not at the game today so I can't comment. All I can say is that there was no sign of sledging from Screen in the semifinal against us. We had big expectations and it was only decided in injury time. Games are won on fine margins and in most circumstances the best team wins.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: DERRYSFINEST on October 14, 2017, 09:03:53 PM
Typical Swatragh, gloating on others misfortunes. Spent money on a minor set up, McGurn and Crozier and still mocking Bellaghy foe losing. Brave heart, you epitomise Swatragh, nobodies!

Bellaghy, typical arrogance. "Special group". What has that group won? 12s and 14s? This big blue bus might have missed a few stops.

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on October 14, 2017, 09:30:10 PM
Typical Swatragh, gloating on others misfortunes. Spent money on a minor set up, McGurn and Crozier and still mocking Bellaghy foe losing. Brave heart, you epitomise Swatragh, nobodies!

Bellaghy, typical arrogance. "Special group". What has that group won? 12s and 14s? This big blue bus might have missed a few stops.

I thought Bellaghy won U16 as well did they not?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 09:42:07 PM
Typical Swatragh, gloating on others misfortunes. Spent money on a minor set up, McGurn and Crozier and still mocking Bellaghy foe losing. Brave heart, you epitomise Swatragh, nobodies!

Bellaghy, typical arrogance. "Special group". What has that group won? 12s and 14s? This big blue bus might have missed a few stops.

I thought Bellaghy won U16 as well did they not?
Rossa beat Swatragh in the u16 final.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 15, 2017, 07:27:03 PM
Twenty mins into first half against Shercock we were  4 points down and  had 3 players black carded, we hung into only be down a point at half time, second half different proposition out scoring them by 2-12 to 1-01
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: left peg on October 16, 2017, 08:17:08 AM
Went down to the SN kilcoo game today and would love to say that I'm surprised but unfortunately not, the tactics the kikcoo management had in instructing their players to do almost anything outside the rules of the game were disgusting. Kilcoo were lucky not to have 4 or 5 men red carded and I can only say it's a god send that Paul McIver is staying with kilcoo until they win an Ulster title as it'll keep him away from the Derry job for a very long time!

Slaughtneil were as poor as I've seen them probably since their first outing this year but still had too much for the down champions, in saying that if kilcoo had have scored their penalty it could have been a very different result. On the penalty issue the referee had indicated he was allowing for advantage after a foul outside the area then within the advantage time frame there was a foul committed inside the area. It's of my understanding it should have been brought back for the initial foul as you can't blow for a second foul whilst allowing advantage, can anyone shed any light on this matter?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JohnDenver on October 16, 2017, 08:55:11 AM
Went down to the SN kilcoo game today and would love to say that I'm surprised but unfortunately not, the tactics the kikcoo management had in instructing their players to do almost anything outside the rules of the game were disgusting. Kilcoo were lucky not to have 4 or 5 men red carded and I can only say it's a god send that Paul McIver is staying with kilcoo until they win an Ulster title as it'll keep him away from the Derry job for a very long time!

Slaughtneil were as poor as I've seen them probably since their first outing this year but still had too much for the down champions, in saying that if kilcoo had have scored their penalty it could have been a very different result. On the penalty issue the referee had indicated he was allowing for advantage after a foul outside the area then within the advantage time frame there was a foul committed inside the area. It's of my understanding it should have been brought back for the initial foul as you can't blow for a second foul whilst allowing advantage, can anyone shed any light on this matter?

I'm almost sure if that was the case, then the correct decision was made to award the penalty. I think there was a similar issue discussed widely in the AI final, where Mayo should have been awarded a penalty during a period of advantage.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: cornerback on October 16, 2017, 10:37:12 AM
Went down to the SN kilcoo game today and would love to say that I'm surprised but unfortunately not, the tactics the kikcoo management had in instructing their players to do almost anything outside the rules of the game were disgusting. Kilcoo were lucky not to have 4 or 5 men red carded and I can only say it's a god send that Paul McIver is staying with kilcoo until they win an Ulster title as it'll keep him away from the Derry job for a very long time!

Slaughtneil were as poor as I've seen them probably since their first outing this year but still had too much for the down champions, in saying that if kilcoo had have scored their penalty it could have been a very different result. On the penalty issue the referee had indicated he was allowing for advantage after a foul outside the area then within the advantage time frame there was a foul committed inside the area. It's of my understanding it should have been brought back for the initial foul as you can't blow for a second foul whilst allowing advantage, can anyone shed any light on this matter?

I'm almost sure if that was the case, then the correct decision was made to award the penalty. I think there was a similar issue discussed widely in the AI final, where Mayo should have been awarded a penalty during a period of advantage.

From the referee handbook
"If, during the advantage period, another foul is committed against the team which received the original advantage, then a free kick/puck will be awarded for the “second” foul if it is considered more advantageous than the original."
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: left peg on October 16, 2017, 10:42:01 AM
Went down to the SN kilcoo game today and would love to say that I'm surprised but unfortunately not, the tactics the kikcoo management had in instructing their players to do almost anything outside the rules of the game were disgusting. Kilcoo were lucky not to have 4 or 5 men red carded and I can only say it's a god send that Paul McIver is staying with kilcoo until they win an Ulster title as it'll keep him away from the Derry job for a very long time!

Slaughtneil were as poor as I've seen them probably since their first outing this year but still had too much for the down champions, in saying that if kilcoo had have scored their penalty it could have been a very different result. On the penalty issue the referee had indicated he was allowing for advantage after a foul outside the area then within the advantage time frame there was a foul committed inside the area. It's of my understanding it should have been brought back for the initial foul as you can't blow for a second foul whilst allowing advantage, can anyone shed any light on this matter?

I'm almost sure if that was the case, then the correct decision was made to award the penalty. I think there was a similar issue discussed widely in the AI final, where Mayo should have been awarded a penalty during a period of advantage.

From the referee handbook
"If, during the advantage period, another foul is committed against the team which received the original advantage, then a free kick/puck will be awarded for the “second” foul if it is considered more advantageous than the original."

Thanks for clearing that up lads wasn't too sure of the ruling on such an incident.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on October 16, 2017, 11:09:55 AM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

The only way that lad should be let through the gates of Owenbeg again is if he’s rebuilding them. That’s if his ego can fit through them.

What’s wrong with giving the Slaughtneil keeper a shot?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 16, 2017, 11:25:24 AM
Went down to the SN kilcoo game today and would love to say that I'm surprised but unfortunately not, the tactics the kikcoo management had in instructing their players to do almost anything outside the rules of the game were disgusting. Kilcoo were lucky not to have 4 or 5 men red carded and I can only say it's a god send that Paul McIver is staying with kilcoo until they win an Ulster title as it'll keep him away from the Derry job for a very long time!

Slaughtneil were as poor as I've seen them probably since their first outing this year but still had too much for the down champions, in saying that if kilcoo had have scored their penalty it could have been a very different result. On the penalty issue the referee had indicated he was allowing for advantage after a foul outside the area then within the advantage time frame there was a foul committed inside the area. It's of my understanding it should have been brought back for the initial foul as you can't blow for a second foul whilst allowing advantage, can anyone shed any light on this matter?

I'm almost sure if that was the case, then the correct decision was made to award the penalty. I think there was a similar issue discussed widely in the AI final, where Mayo should have been awarded a penalty during a period of advantage.

From the referee handbook
"If, during the advantage period, another foul is committed against the team which received the original advantage, then a free kick/puck will be awarded for the “second” foul if it is considered more advantageous than the original."
It is interesting that you can find  this information because I'd be fairly sure that most of the referees in Derry don't know it. A lot of them don't play advantage
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Buzzkill on October 16, 2017, 11:31:45 AM
Big congratulations to Screen minors. Great for the young lads and the whole club especially after the disappointment of the seniors losing in the final a couple of weeks ago.

And it was brilliant that the young lads put on a great performance and won that game for JP Devlin, who unfortunately got a bad injury in the semi final win over Swatragh and was missing for the final.

Its been a great tussle between this Screen team and Bellaghy since as far back as u12. But finally Screen has come out victorious beating Bellaghy for the minor title.

This is an exact replica from our last minor winning team of 2005, who eventually beat another Bellaghy team having lost against them at every level at underage.

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: sam03/05 on October 16, 2017, 01:32:28 PM
Is Slaughtneil home or away v Omagh
If at home mostly likely to be at Celtic Park? with the Owenbeg pitch poor
In winter
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 16, 2017, 01:46:06 PM
Clarity on the rule be nice seeing it cost Mayo a penalty if correct in the all-irleand final?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 16, 2017, 02:20:06 PM
As we patiently await the draw for the 2018 Ulster Senior football championship next Thursday night I thought that I would engage in some crystal ball gazing and select the team that I would like to see representing Derry in the first round.Of course in this ideal situation no one is injured and all of our best players want to play and the selectors want to pick them!!

                                               Ben McKinless
Niall Keenan                           Brendan Rogers                     Dermot McBride
Liam McGoldrick                      Chris McKaigue                      Sean Leo McGoldrick
                              Conor McAtamney           Emmett Bradley
Ciaran McFaul                         Danny Heavron (capt)                     Enda Lynn
Benny Heron                          Terence O'Brien                      Niall Loughlin

Remaining Panellists.

T Mallon, Anton  McMullan,G McKinless,C Nevin,K McKaigue, C McGrogan K Johnston, N Forrester, M Bateson,M Mc Evoy,C McWilliams,N Holly,P Cassidy, A McLoughlin,J Kielt,C McWilliams,C Bradley, Declan Hughes,E McGuckin,R Bell, N Toner and Danny Tallon.


As the modern game is essentially a 20 - man team effort I would look upon  all of the above but especially K McKaigue,G McKinless,M Bateson,C McWilliams,N Holly,P Cassidy, J Kielt, R Bell,C Bradley,Shane McGuigan and Danny Tallon as being prime candidates to come on during the course of the game at any time but especially during the last quarter.Indeed all of the latter would  also be very competent  to be on from the beginning.

I am sure that there are other obviously suitable  candidates outside those that I have mentioned above.

If Damian McErlain and his management team can get all of the above players willing and able to participate he will have the nucleus of a very good competitive team who can make a realistic
push for promotion from Division Three of the League and depending on the draw who knows what Derry might achieve in the Championship.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mikhailov on October 16, 2017, 02:30:50 PM
As we patiently await the draw for the 2018 Ulster Senior football championship next Thursday night I thought that I would engage in some crystal ball gazing and select the team that I would like to see representing Derry in the first round.Of course in this ideal situation no one is injured and all of our best players want to play and the selectors want to pick them!!

                                               Ben McKinless
Niall Keenan                           Brendan Rogers                     Dermot McBride
Liam McGoldrick                      Chris McKaigue                      Sean Leo McGoldrick
                              Conor McAtamney           Emmett Bradley
Ciaran McFaul                         Danny Heavron (capt)                     Enda Lynn
Benny Heron                          Terence O'Brien                      Niall Loughlin

Remaining Panellists.

T Mallon, Anton  McMullan,G McKinless,C Nevin,K McKaigue, C McGrogan K Johnston, N Forrester, M Bateson,M Mc Evoy,C McWilliams,N Holly,P Cassidy, A McLoughlin,J Kielt,C McWilliams,C Bradley, Declan Hughes,E McGuckin,R Bell, N Toner and Danny Tallon.


As the modern game is essentially a 20 - man team effort I would look upon  all of the above but especially K McKaigue,G McKinless,M Bateson,C McWilliams,N Holly,P Cassidy, J Kielt, R Bell,C Bradley,Shane McGuigan and Danny Tallon as being prime candidates to come on during the course of the game at any time but especially during the last quarter.Indeed all of the latter would  also be very competent  to be on from the beginning.

I am sure that there are other obviously suitable  candidates outside those that I have mentioned above.

If Damian McErlain and his management team can get all of the above players willing and able to participate he will have the nucleus of a very good competitive team who can make a realistic
push for promotion from Division Three of the League and depending on the draw who knows what Derry might achieve in the Championship.

you never even named him in your subs, now you saying he is a candidate to start from the beginning. In fairness, a strong squad but still can only see 75% of them lads making themselves available...
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 16, 2017, 03:08:36 PM
No point picking a championship team, this time of year but if available P Cassidy will be midfield
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 16, 2017, 03:14:38 PM
Is Slaughtneil home or away v Omagh
If at home mostly likely to be at Celtic Park? with the Owenbeg pitch poor
In winter

Celtic Park Sat 28th Oct @ 7.00pm - confirmed
Newbridge v Belcoo before it @ 5.15
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on October 17, 2017, 09:29:29 AM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

The only way that lad should be let through the gates of Owenbeg again is if he’s rebuilding them. That’s if his ego can fit through them.

What’s wrong with giving the Slaughtneil keeper a shot?

Bit harsh on Postie. Think over the last 3-4 years, he's been one of the top keepers in the County.

McMullan definitely worthy of a call up. I was very impressed with him in the County Final.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on October 17, 2017, 09:41:23 AM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

The only way that lad should be let through the gates of Owenbeg again is if he’s rebuilding them. That’s if his ego can fit through them.

What’s wrong with giving the Slaughtneil keeper a shot?

Bit harsh on Postie. Think over the last 3-4 years, he's been one of the top keepers in the County.

McMullan definitely worthy of a call up. I was very impressed with him in the County Final.

You'd have to assume Mackers will start with a blank canvas. The likes of Postie and Cassidy who walked away a the 11th hour last year will most likely be given a shot as there's no direct history between them. Imo that's the way it should be with the new manager , but they'll have to earn their stripes like everyone else, and if they do come back into the panel, they owe the shirt

Be something if all the men DerryOptimist has listed would make themselves available .
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on October 17, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 17, 2017, 11:17:07 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that wron the minor title three years ago.
The u21 championship needs revamped. It needs to be played at the start of the year before the league starts when there isn't anything else on. Then teams would take it seriously
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on October 17, 2017, 11:19:47 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that wron the minor title three years ago.
The u21 championship needs revamped. It needs to be played at the start of the year before the league starts when there isn't anything else on. Then teams would take it seriously

I agree, it is a joke of a compo now. With the U20s moving to the summer, that will be some craic btw with clubs, March and April is now available for the club compo, unless Maghera get to the Mc Rory final which would effect us.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Link on October 17, 2017, 11:21:02 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 17, 2017, 11:30:42 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TheImpactCode on October 17, 2017, 12:44:51 PM
It is always very hard to get all the games fitted in that need to be played.

U21 (U20 or whatever ye-ma-callit) needs to be played in tandem with the senior leagues to give players a chance to break into senior teams

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Link on October 17, 2017, 01:22:28 PM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bigball on October 17, 2017, 02:11:33 PM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

The dynamics of minor and U21 are different. Minor teams are made up with 15-18 years olds and generally the wider panel are weaker players. Many of the weaker players drop off due to natural wastage. Others become not available at U21 due different  factors (i.e injuries, study in England, Conor Glass AFL, Mark Doole illness etc)
When it comes to U21's, I would suggest that most if not all clubs would depend on minors in order to enter a team. In Glen's last 3 Ulster winning Under 21 squads, each had several minors involved. This year was no different.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Link on October 17, 2017, 02:46:35 PM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

The dynamics of minor and U21 are different. Minor teams are made up with 15-18 years olds and generally the wider panel are weaker players. Many of the weaker players drop off due to natural wastage. Others become not available at U21 due different  factors (i.e injuries, study in England, Conor Glass AFL, Mark Doole illness etc)
When it comes to U21's, I would suggest that most if not all clubs would depend on minors in order to enter a team. In Glen's last 3 Ulster winning Under 21 squads, each had several minors involved. This year was no different.

Yeah the usual drop off is easily understood but not to a point where a club withdraws from the comp. I find it hard to believe (doubt i would be the only one) that Glen couldn't field 15-20 players from the 2014 minor winners and 2015 finalists in addition to the 2016 minors even with 3/4 lost to the factors you mention.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 17, 2017, 02:52:38 PM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

The dynamics of minor and U21 are different. Minor teams are made up with 15-18 years olds and generally the wider panel are weaker players. Many of the weaker players drop off due to natural wastage. Others become not available at U21 due different  factors (i.e injuries, study in England, Conor Glass AFL, Mark Doole illness etc)
When it comes to U21's, I would suggest that most if not all clubs would depend on minors in order to enter a team. In Glen's last 3 Ulster winning Under 21 squads, each had several minors involved. This year was no different.

Yeah the usual drop off is easily understood but not to a point where a club withdraws from the comp. I find it hard to believe (doubt i would be the only one) that Glen couldn't field 15-20 players from the 2014 minor winners and 2015 finalists in addition to the 2016 minors even with 3/4 lost to the factors you mention.

That's the way football goes fellas. If we had 10 footballers staying on every year to play seniors or reserves our senior teams would be training with panels of 100. 3-4 coming through each year is what every club is aiming for, but its not what every club gets. Even more so now the way club football is going with S&C sessions, Pitch sessions etc boys cant be bothered coming down the road from uni 3/4 nights a week to play reserve football so massive dropout rates and clubs then struggle to get them out in cold October nights to gather an u21 team.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bigball on October 17, 2017, 03:11:52 PM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

The dynamics of minor and U21 are different. Minor teams are made up with 15-18 years olds and generally the wider panel are weaker players. Many of the weaker players drop off due to natural wastage. Others become not available at U21 due different  factors (i.e injuries, study in England, Conor Glass AFL, Mark Doole illness etc)
When it comes to U21's, I would suggest that most if not all clubs would depend on minors in order to enter a team. In Glen's last 3 Ulster winning Under 21 squads, each had several minors involved. This year was no different.

Yeah the usual drop off is easily understood but not to a point where a club withdraws from the comp. I find it hard to believe (doubt i would be the only one) that Glen couldn't field 15-20 players from the 2014 minor winners and 2015 finalists in addition to the 2016 minors even with 3/4 lost to the factors you mention.

Care to name me a club that fields an under21 team without any minors?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Link on October 17, 2017, 04:31:02 PM
I doubt there would be any but I would guarantee you that Lavey, Faughanvale, Dungiven and more would still have fielded this year if they were told minors couldn't play.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bigball on October 17, 2017, 05:39:48 PM
I doubt there would be any but I would guarantee you that Lavey, Faughanvale, Dungiven and more would still have fielded this year if they were told minors couldn't play.

and what's your club mr expert?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Link on October 17, 2017, 09:18:39 PM
I'm no expert but I know we used at least 15 u21s not including minors.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bigball on October 18, 2017, 08:38:00 AM
I'm no expert but I know we used at least 15 u21s not including minors.

You've conceded plenty over the years tho so get off the high horse.
Glen's record in the comp speaks for its self. However the way it's now scheduled has turned it into a farce with little interest from all.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 18, 2017, 11:44:33 AM
Just heard that if Ireland succeed in winning their bid for hosting the 2023 Rugby World Cup that all designated grounds for this  huge sporting and tourist event will be entitled to  large infrastructure grants both for the individual stadia and the cities in which the games will take place. If true that would mean that Derry City in general terms and Celtic Park in particular, as one of those designated grounds, would be in for a huge financial investment.

After all the years of official discrimination and untold suffering by so many innocent people  no city or county would deserve such a welcome bonus any better than the  good people of our own home place.

I would hope that Derry County Board,Derry City Council and all relevant government bodies,both north and south,would have proper provisional plans made for this exciting development were it to happen.

I am sure that all GAA followers in Derry and elsewhere would like to see the accommodation and playing facilities in Celtic Park updated and developed, particularly if it were to mean the allocation of substantial external grants to make the dream become a reality. Any posters out there know anything further about the prospects of this happening.

I know 2023 is a long time away but would it not be nice to see 2022 All Ireland winning Derry Senior football captain Brendan Rogers along with his vice captain Conor McAtamney show off the Sam Maguire Cup to the millions of the Irish diaspora across the world at the launch of the first World Rugby Cup game in Celtic Park!!! Unless we have such dreams and ambitions  no team or no management will ever achieve anything.Roll on 2018!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 18, 2017, 12:02:45 PM
Just heard that if Ireland succeed in winning their bid for hosting the 2023 Rugby World Cup that all designated grounds for this  huge sporting and tourist event will be entitled to  large infrastructure grants both for the individual stadia and the cities in which the games will take place. If true that would mean that Derry City in general terms and Celtic Park in particular, as one of those designated grounds, would be in for a huge financial investment.

After all the years of official discrimination and untold suffering by so many innocent people  no city or county would deserve such a welcome bonus any better than the  good people of our own home place.

I would hope that Derry County Board,Derry City Council and all relevant government bodies,both north and south,would have proper provisional plans made for this exciting development were it to happen.

I am sure that all GAA followers in Derry and elsewhere would like to see the accommodation and playing facilities in Celtic Park updated and developed, particularly if it were to mean the allocation of substantial external grants to make the dream become a reality. Any posters out there know anything further about the prospects of this happening.

I know 2023 is a long time away but would it not be nice to see 2022 All Ireland winning Derry Senior football captain Brendan Rogers along with his vice captain Conor McAtamney show off the Sam Maguire Cup to the millions of the Irish diaspora across the world at the launch of the first World Rugby Cup game in Celtic Park!!! Unless we have such dreams and ambitions  no team or no management will ever achieve anything.Roll on 2018!

Gregory? Is that you?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on October 18, 2017, 12:11:05 PM
Just heard that if Ireland succeed in winning their bid for hosting the 2023 Rugby World Cup that all designated grounds for this  huge sporting and tourist event will be entitled to  large infrastructure grants both for the individual stadia and the cities in which the games will take place. If true that would mean that Derry City in general terms and Celtic Park in particular, as one of those designated grounds, would be in for a huge financial investment.

After all the years of official discrimination and untold suffering by so many innocent people  no city or county would deserve such a welcome bonus any better than the  good people of our own home place.

I would hope that Derry County Board,Derry City Council and all relevant government bodies,both north and south,would have proper provisional plans made for this exciting development were it to happen.

I am sure that all GAA followers in Derry and elsewhere would like to see the accommodation and playing facilities in Celtic Park updated and developed, particularly if it were to mean the allocation of substantial external grants to make the dream become a reality. Any posters out there know anything further about the prospects of this happening.

I know 2023 is a long time away but would it not be nice to see 2022 All Ireland winning Derry Senior football captain Brendan Rogers along with his vice captain Conor McAtamney show off the Sam Maguire Cup to the millions of the Irish diaspora across the world at the launch of the first World Rugby Cup game in Celtic Park!!! Unless we have such dreams and ambitions  no team or no management will ever achieve anything.Roll on 2018!

The last I heard was it was between CP and McHale Park as the final venue.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TheImpactCode on October 18, 2017, 10:06:02 PM
Who do Ballinascreen play in the first round of the Ulster minor championship?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 18, 2017, 10:21:57 PM
No. Would Gregory talk about "Derry City Council"? Infact, would anyone from Strabane call it that?!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on October 18, 2017, 10:23:11 PM
Who do Ballinascreen play in the first round of the Ulster minor championship?

Draw not made yet. First Rd around the back end of November afaik
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TheImpactCode on October 18, 2017, 10:31:24 PM
There seems to be an awful dropout rate at the minute.  Lot of U21 games conceded and there are not enough games at underage level.  For all the coaching, lads need more games if clubs are going to get families to buy in.

Think counties (not just Derry) need to really look at the structures and get more players involved.  reserve leagues are dying on their feet.

I see there is a Roe Valley team entered in the MacRory or McLarnon Cups.  A great idea.

The likes of Brian Smith and Brian McIver should be pushing more of this type of thing.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 18, 2017, 10:34:35 PM
To answer "The Impact Code's " query as to which club Derry Minor champions Ballinascreen are drawn against in the Ulster Minor club championship (officially known as St Paul's Belfast Tournament!!) to the best of my knowledge the draw has not been made yet.However I am open to correction on this.

More importantly I hope Ballinascreen keep up a proud Derry winning tradition in this tournament.They have many very good footballers and it would be nice to see them gain some provincial silverware.

In the past outstanding individuals like Tony Scullion,Matt Trolan and Brendan Kelly starred for the Derry Senior team on numerous occasions, a  mantle now carried on by Dermot McBride,Benny Heron and Carlus McWilliams.Every club needs an occasional extra boost and this competition can be an incentive for Ballinascreen to make the most of their opportunity.

This years star  minors like John Paul Devlin and Martin Bradley can do likewise.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 18, 2017, 10:35:25 PM
We beat  Claudy by 1-16 to 0-13 tonight in  an entertaining under 21 B semi final , now  play glenullin in final on Sunday , ( Faughanvale v Lavey in A Final )
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on October 19, 2017, 12:14:49 AM
To answer "The Impact Code's " query as to which club Derry Minor champions Ballinascreen are drawn against in the Ulster Minor club championship (officially known as St Paul's Belfast Tournament!!) to the best of my knowledge the draw has not been made yet.However I am open to correction on this.

More importantly I hope Ballinascreen keep up a proud Derry winning tradition in this tournament.They have many very good footballers and it would be nice to see them gain some provincial silverware.

In the past outstanding individuals like Tony Scullion,Matt Trolan and Brendan Kelly starred for the Derry Senior team on numerous occasions, a  mantle now carried on by Dermot McBride,Benny Heron and Carlus McWilliams.Every club needs an occasional extra boost and this competition can be an incentive for Ballinascreen to make the most of their opportunity.

This years star  minors like John Paul Devlin and Martin Bradley can do likewise.

Cheers DO but unfortunately JP done his cruciate against Swatragh in the Semi Final which just shows how much the lads stepped up in the Final with such an influential player missing!

Really looking forward to the Minor Tournament fingers crossed we can give it a good go.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on October 19, 2017, 08:57:28 AM
To answer "The Impact Code's " query as to which club Derry Minor champions Ballinascreen are drawn against in the Ulster Minor club championship (officially known as St Paul's Belfast Tournament!!) to the best of my knowledge the draw has not been made yet.However I am open to correction on this.

More importantly I hope Ballinascreen keep up a proud Derry winning tradition in this tournament.They have many very good footballers and it would be nice to see them gain some provincial silverware.

In the past outstanding individuals like Tony Scullion,Matt Trolan and Brendan Kelly starred for the Derry Senior team on numerous occasions, a  mantle now carried on by Dermot McBride,Benny Heron and Carlus McWilliams.Every club needs an occasional extra boost and this competition can be an incentive for Ballinascreen to make the most of their opportunity.

This years star  minors like John Paul Devlin and Martin Bradley can do likewise.

Cheers DO but unfortunately JP done his cruciate against Swatragh in the Semi Final which just shows how much the lads stepped up in the Final with such an influential player missing!

Really looking forward to the Minor Tournament fingers crossed we can give it a good go.

Yes, wishing JP a very speedy recovery!

A skilful, jinky, wee player; and as I overheard at a Minor game this year, "He's like a buckled wheel coming at ye!"

Best wishes to the lads in Ulster.

I still remember when CJ McGourty broke Screen hearts in 2005 with a clinker of a score in the dying minutes.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on October 19, 2017, 09:29:49 AM
We beat  Claudy by 1-16 to 0-13 tonight in  an entertaining under 21 B semi final , now  play glenullin in final on Sunday , ( Faughanvale v Lavey in A Final )

Anyone have any idea why the final is being played in Glenullin?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lagerman on October 19, 2017, 10:18:55 AM
We beat  Claudy by 1-16 to 0-13 tonight in  an entertaining under 21 B semi final , now  play glenullin in final on Sunday , ( Faughanvale v Lavey in A Final )

Anyone have any idea why the final is being played in Glenullin?

Was originally to be played at neutral venue but couldn't guarantee the lights would be on
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on October 19, 2017, 02:21:09 PM
The draw is tonight. I think we will get a good first round draw, as I think Mc Erlean seems to carry some good luck with him.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 19, 2017, 03:01:57 PM
The draw is tonight. I think we will get a good first round draw, as I think Mc Erlean seems to carry some good luck with him.

so Tyrone in Omagh it will be then so
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on October 20, 2017, 12:15:12 AM
Donegal will be a very tough but to crack in the first round I think. At least we’ve a better chance than if it were Tyrone again!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on October 20, 2017, 05:58:41 AM
Donegal will be a very tough but to crack in the first round I think. At least we’ve a better chance than if it were Tyrone again!

Terrible draw for Derry.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 20, 2017, 09:41:36 AM
Re next year's Ulster championship Quarter final draw against the winners of Donegal/Cavan and going on  previous history Derry will be at home to Donegal if the latter  win the Preliminary game and away to Cavan if the Breffni men win at Ballybofey in the first game.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 20, 2017, 06:41:42 PM
We beat Donegal just once in the championship past 20yrs
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 20, 2017, 07:56:41 PM
If Derry have all their best players fit and available and play with the same spirit and determination that they showed against Mayo in normal time in Castlebar, in this year's Qualifiers,  I have no doubt that they can beat either Donegal or Cavan in next year's Ulster championship.

Hopefully Damian McErlain and his management team can creature a united unity of purpose and a cohesive proper game plan to make this possible.

On another issue is there any word on who is in charge of managing the County's U17 and U20 squads for next season?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mountain Gael on October 20, 2017, 08:36:08 PM
Donegal will be a very tough but to crack in the first round I think. At least we’ve a better chance than if it were Tyrone again!

Terrible draw for Derry.
Don't agree. Think it is a excellent draw and don't rule out cavan beating donegal and we always beat cavan. Great chance of getting to ulster final as tyrone and monaghan in other half. as i said in the past if we can play with the same heart as we finished last year against mayo then its onwards and upwards for us. hope we can get everyone playing at start of league as this has been a stumbling block in the past
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 21, 2017, 11:07:51 PM
Donegal will be a very tough but to crack in the first round I think. At least we’ve a better chance than if it were Tyrone again!

Terrible draw for Derry.
Don't agree. Think it is a excellent draw and don't rule out cavan beating donegal and we always beat cavan. Great chance of getting to ulster final as tyrone and monaghan in other half. as i said in the past if we can play with the same heart as we finished last year against mayo then its onwards and upwards for us. hope we can get everyone playing at start of league as this has been a stumbling block in the past
We always beat Cavan?!  That is news to me!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 22, 2017, 02:42:24 AM
Yeah i wanna hear more about this
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on October 22, 2017, 12:17:32 PM
What happened the minor hurling final, I heard Lynch's won this but I see on Derry website that they conceded, maybe it's a typo?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Jimmy on October 22, 2017, 12:59:04 PM
Just a mistake on the website I assume. Kevin Lynch’s won 2-10 to 11 points according to the Kevin Lynch’s twitter account.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 22, 2017, 04:22:55 PM
Congratulations to our under 21's winning  1-16 to 1-08 against Glenullin today , couple of knocks picked up which hopefully will be cleared up ahead of Belcoo game this weekend
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on October 23, 2017, 09:14:28 AM
What happened the minor hurling final, I heard Lynch's won this but I see on Derry website that they conceded, maybe it's a typo?

Nash was absolutely disgraceful I heard. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 23, 2017, 11:35:48 PM
What happened the minor hurling final, I heard Lynch's won this but I see on Derry website that they conceded, maybe it's a typo?

Nash was absolutely disgraceful I heard.
At least the standard of refereeing was the same then as the minor football final.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Link on October 24, 2017, 09:23:57 AM
I see the facebook live stream of the ulster camogie final was a big success but for some reason the hurling wasn't allowed to be shown. Was there an alternative live stream?

I recorded TG4's highlights show last night but it didn't show the ulster hurling final. Is it available anywhere else?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: cuyahoga on October 24, 2017, 04:28:37 PM
<I see the facebook live stream of the ulster camogie final was a big success but for some reason the hurling wasn't allowed to be shown. Was there an alternative live stream?

I recorded TG4's highlights show last night but it didn't show the ulster hurling final. Is it available anywhere else?>

The commentator on the Facebook live stream of the Ulster Camogie Final, was terrible. He was constantly coming out with sickening shite and never shut his mouth. I had to turn the sound off.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on October 25, 2017, 12:27:49 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

High stool chat of Ciaran Meenagh and Marty Boyle returning to Screen. Personally would love to see it, but it's probably a load of balls.

Haven't heard of any other appointments.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 25, 2017, 12:54:59 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 25, 2017, 01:02:45 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on October 25, 2017, 01:11:11 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on October 25, 2017, 04:01:24 PM
Paddy Campbell as manager, Ronan Rocks and Fabian Muldoon as coaches for the U17s.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on October 26, 2017, 09:18:28 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt
The young lad that was on the Derry panel a couple times? Reason for transferring?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on October 26, 2017, 10:30:57 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

High stool chat of Ciaran Meenagh and Marty Boyle returning to Screen. Personally would love to see it, but it's probably a load of balls.

Haven't heard of any other appointments.



Strange comment after Screen getting to County final Phil??

On the face of it, yes.

However, Screen got to the County Final because of the effort and performances of players, not the management IMO.

Thought we were a better outfit under Meenagh and Boyle (who also got Screen to a County Final), and on a personal note, I have a lot of time for those two men.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on October 26, 2017, 10:32:21 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.

Explain.....
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 26, 2017, 11:00:34 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.

Explain.....

They had differences in their opinion on whether to bring Ronan Murphy back onto the panel when he walked away.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 26, 2017, 02:10:27 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt
The young lad that was on the Derry panel a couple times? Reason for transferring?
Not sure of reason for leaving  but his father is from Ballymaguigan
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: wide as a gate! on October 26, 2017, 02:16:37 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt
The young lad that was on the Derry panel a couple times? Reason for transferring?
Not sure of reason for leaving  but his father is from Ballymaguigan
He will be a real boost for the Quigan team, a really good player. if my memory serves me right he played the most of his underage at the Cuigan before transferring to Mfelt around u16/minor age. a loss to the rossas for sure.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 26, 2017, 02:20:32 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt
The young lad that was on the Derry panel a couple times? Reason for transferring?
Not sure of reason for leaving  but his father is from Ballymaguigan
He will be a real boost for the Quigan team, a really good player. if my memory serves me right he played the most of his underage at the Cuigan before transferring to Mfelt around u16/minor age. a loss to the rossas for sure.

According to Rossa men won't be a massive loss. Walked off county panel 3/4 years back and ended up playing for Magherafelt 3rds for half a season. Think there was a lack of interest and is now living in the lough shore
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on October 26, 2017, 08:04:14 PM
Paddy Campbell as manager, Ronan Rocks and Fabian Muldoon as coaches for the U17s.

Is that the same Paddy Campbell (Donegal native) that managed was it Steeltown ? a few years back and also Castldawson .... played a very defensive game with those teams ... !!!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on October 26, 2017, 10:33:24 PM
Paddy Campbell as manager, Ronan Rocks and Fabian Muldoon as coaches for the U17s.

Is that the same Paddy Campbell (Donegal native) that managed was it Steeltown ? a few years back and also Castldawson .... played a very defensive game with those teams ... !!!!

But most famous for slapping the big easy in the clinkers!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 27, 2017, 12:33:10 AM
Paddy Campbell as manager, Ronan Rocks and Fabian Muldoon as coaches for the U17s.

Is that the same Paddy Campbell (Donegal native) that managed was it Steeltown ? a few years back and also Castldawson .... played a very defensive game with those teams ... !!!!

But most famous for slapping the big easy in the clinkers!
Somethings you can forgive ... but not getting our Enda sent off.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 27, 2017, 08:04:21 AM
Kevin Coary installed as Loup manager
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TheOptimist on October 27, 2017, 08:20:14 AM
Paddy Campbell as manager, Ronan Rocks and Fabian Muldoon as coaches for the U17s.

Is that the same Paddy Campbell (Donegal native) that managed was it Steeltown ? a few years back and also Castldawson .... played a very defensive game with those teams ... !!!!

Thinking the same. If it is him, he was Jim McGuinness' captain at Glenties and very much of the same mindset. Not sure if that is what U17s need.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on October 27, 2017, 09:18:25 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt
The young lad that was on the Derry panel a couple times? Reason for transferring?
Not sure of reason for leaving  but his father is from Ballymaguigan
He will be a real boost for the Quigan team, a really good player. if my memory serves me right he played the most of his underage at the Cuigan before transferring to Mfelt around u16/minor age. a loss to the rossas for sure.

According to Rossa men won't be a massive loss. Walked off county panel 3/4 years back and ended up playing for Magherafelt 3rds for half a season. Think there was a lack of interest and is now living in the lough shore

Heard something like this myself.

on another note kevin Coary & Paddy Gribben installed as the new loup management is an interesting one to say the least!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tothetop03 on October 27, 2017, 11:29:28 AM
Kevin Coary installed as Loup manager

Must be very recent i know a another Tyrone man they contacted on Tuesday...
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 27, 2017, 12:09:04 PM
Kevin Coary installed as Loup manager

Must be very recent i know a another Tyrone man they contacted on Tuesday...

He was announced at a committee meeting on Tuesday night.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tothetop03 on October 27, 2017, 12:20:03 PM
Kevin Coary installed as Loup manager

Must be very recent i know a another Tyrone man they contacted on Tuesday...

He was announced at a committee meeting on Tuesday night.


Good enough a decent fella hope it works for him...
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on October 27, 2017, 04:48:21 PM
Refresh my memory here folks:

League promotion/relegation. Was it just 1up/1down this year or were there 2nd place/2nd bottom playoffs? If so, were those games played and who won?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 27, 2017, 07:12:17 PM
A blue nose has applied for the Swatragh senior footballers. I hope he doesn't get it.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Lowintothewind on October 27, 2017, 10:38:12 PM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Hearing Michael O'Kane has left Claudy after 3 years in charge.  Also been mentioned as the new U17 manager
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 27, 2017, 10:49:18 PM
Refresh my memory here folks:

League promotion/relegation. Was it just 1up/1down this year or were there 2nd place/2nd bottom playoffs? If so, were those games played and who won?
Just one up one down , no play offs
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: DERRYSFINEST on October 28, 2017, 12:12:37 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Hearing Michael O'Kane has left Claudy after 3 years in charge.  Also been mentioned as the new U17 manager

Is there anyone that hasn't been asked to take the u17s? Surely onto the 20th choice by now.

I believe Rooster not happy not being asked to take the u20s again. Smith couldn't run a bath. Embarrassing!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 28, 2017, 01:39:29 AM
A blue nose has applied for the Swatragh senior footballers. I hope he doesn't get it.
What position has he applied for? Fullback?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on October 28, 2017, 06:54:14 PM
Are Newbridge the second best team in Derry at the minute, based on form? Saw them today in Celtic Park and they blew that Fermanagh team away.

With a ‘Bridge man at the helm in Owenbeg, you’d have to think some of these guys will be getting a run in the NFL in the Spring.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on October 28, 2017, 07:21:01 PM
Are Newbridge the second best team in Derry at the minute, based on form? Saw them today in Celtic Park and they blew that Fermanagh team away.

With a ‘Bridge man at the helm in Owenbeg, you’d have to think some of these guys will be getting a run in the NFL in the Spring.
2ND best team in Derry? Not a clue. What a ridiculous statement
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 28, 2017, 07:22:05 PM
Point down at half time but finished winning 3-16 to 1-09 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 28, 2017, 07:26:44 PM
Are Newbridge the second best team in Derry at the minute, based on form? Saw them today in Celtic Park and they blew that Fermanagh team away.

With a ‘Bridge man at the helm in Owenbeg, you’d have to think some of these guys will be getting a run in the NFL in the Spring.
Evenn with green tinted glasses  unfortunately I couldn't agree with you , heard a few of our boys have been called up though
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 28, 2017, 07:32:47 PM
Slaughtneil by a point at half time but Omagh have a strong wind in second half
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 28, 2017, 08:25:49 PM
Slaughtneil won by two, not a great game but a win is a win
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 28, 2017, 09:34:50 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 28, 2017, 09:53:46 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.
,   Conor Doherty is developing into a very good all round footballer ,Eamon Burke still a handful as well if we can get any sort of service to him
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on October 29, 2017, 02:42:45 AM
Are Newbridge the second best team in Derry at the minute, based on form? Saw them today in Celtic Park and they blew that Fermanagh team away.

With a ‘Bridge man at the helm in Owenbeg, you’d have to think some of these guys will be getting a run in the NFL in the Spring.

To be fair your correct ......... only three Derry clubs training at the minute and I would rank Newbridge’s form second.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: In hiding on October 29, 2017, 04:08:03 AM
not wishing to take anything away from an impressive slaughtneil victory but that's twice I've met their supporters. we have lots of crazies in tyrone but nothing to compare to the slaughtneil loonies. is this normal In derry
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 29, 2017, 10:35:16 AM
not wishing to take anything away from an impressive slaughtneil victory but that's twice I've met their supporters. we have lots of crazies in tyrone but nothing to compare to the slaughtneil loonies. is this normal In derry
With totally unbalanced comments like above, maybe you should stay hidden. The Hideout in Maghera would be perfect.  Comment analysis suggests that you do "want to take ... away" from Slaughtneil's victory as no supporters were playing and that you are jealous. How many Tyrone clubs have even been in the All Ireland final, please remind us?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: In hiding on October 29, 2017, 10:41:50 AM
not wishing to take anything away from an impressive slaughtneil victory but that's twice I've met their supporters. we have lots of crazies in tyrone but nothing to compare to the slaughtneil loonies. is this normal In derry
With totally unbalanced comments like above, maybe you should stay hidden. The Hideout in Maghera would be perfect.  Comment analysis suggests that you do "want to take ... away" from Slaughtneil's victory as no supporters were playing and that you are jealous. How many Tyrone clubs have even been in the All Ireland final, please remind us?
it's just a question. No need to be so precious
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 29, 2017, 10:48:31 AM
And please remind the board of how many precious Tyrone clubs have played in All Ireland finals?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: In hiding on October 29, 2017, 12:50:46 PM
And please remind the board of how many precious Tyrone clubs have played in All Ireland finals?
wow you fairly put me in my box there.
Maybe that excellent slaughtneil side will go one step further than just playing in an all Ireland final this year
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: referee on October 29, 2017, 06:48:30 PM
Watched Kilcar today,PMcBrearty was pick of the talent on show and Kilcar seemed to want it more especially after about  the 20 min mark,i just think s/Neil will have the players to pick up the kilcar danger men and make another final as long as they can keep a fully fit team,very impressed by the way they never panicked especially when CMcK was black carded last night and seen the last 2/3 mins playing keep ball
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on October 29, 2017, 07:19:10 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.
Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 29, 2017, 07:44:14 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.
Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??
As far as I am aware he is still injured. He also missed the Kilcoo game.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 29, 2017, 08:38:21 PM
if you think they are crazy now, should sent them in the 70`s lol
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on October 29, 2017, 08:42:39 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.
Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??

He's a huge player for Slaughtneil. Free taking aside, he has a huge amount of possessions every game and uses the ball well.

Thought all the first half wides might come back to haunt the Robbies yesterday, but they just know how to win these kind of games. Christ Omagh were incredibly defensive.. At times all 15 players in or around their 45.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 29, 2017, 09:16:24 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.
Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??

He's a huge player for Slaughtneil. Free taking aside, he has a huge amount of possessions every game and uses the ball well.

Thought all the first half wides might come back to haunt the Robbies yesterday, but they just know how to win these kind of games. Christ Omagh were incredibly defensive.. At times all 15 players in or around their 45.
Agree totally. Could understand Omagh's defensiveness in first half against strong wind but throughout the second half as well? That was maybe their downfall as they even had Rodgers under pressure when they did attack.  In Bradley's absence thought McGuigan's free taking against wind was excellent - on his right side but very mature.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on October 29, 2017, 09:27:47 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.
Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??

He's a huge player for Slaughtneil. Free taking aside, he has a huge amount of possessions every game and uses the ball well.

Thought all the first half wides might come back to haunt the Robbies yesterday, but they just know how to win these kind of games. Christ Omagh were incredibly defensive.. At times all 15 players in or around their 45.

He was a v good player but he’s done now. Now that he’s out of the team can’t see him getting his place back. They’re more than capable of winning without him.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on October 29, 2017, 09:39:20 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.
Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??

He's a huge player for Slaughtneil. Free taking aside, he has a huge amount of possessions every game and uses the ball well.

Thought all the first half wides might come back to haunt the Robbies yesterday, but they just know how to win these kind of games. Christ Omagh were incredibly defensive.. At times all 15 players in or around their 45.

He was a v good player but he’s done now. Now that he’s out of the team can’t see him getting his place back. They’re more than capable of winning without him.
Not sure about that!  I would still start him before Paudie.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on October 30, 2017, 11:05:00 AM
not wishing to take anything away from an impressive slaughtneil victory but that's twice I've met their supporters. we have lots of crazies in tyrone but nothing to compare to the slaughtneil loonies. is this normal In derry

Yeah your right lad; they all speak a fecking weird language up there, whatever the feck it is.

Oh aye........ it’s our own native language.


Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: In hiding on October 30, 2017, 12:34:11 PM
not wishing to take anything away from an impressive slaughtneil victory but that's twice I've met their supporters. we have lots of crazies in tyrone but nothing to compare to the slaughtneil loonies. is this normal In derry

Yeah your right lad; they all speak a fecking weird language up there, whatever the feck it is.

Oh aye........ it’s our own native language.

nah, heard plenty of words spoken and shouted alright but not one in our native language. anyways sorry I said anything about it. Really good side with passionate support. Leave it at that
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 30, 2017, 05:36:31 PM

For the last three years Damian McErlain  officially announced the names of his Minor panel for the following year's Ulster Minor competitions during the month of October. This  early, yearly announcement  was a hallmark of his ability to organise his players  in a thoroughly efficient manner which resulted in Derry reaching three successive Ulster finals and winning two of them,albeit with groups of very talented players. With a likely earlier start for the 2018 Ulster U17 championship it is imperative that the County Board make an announcement shortly as to who they are going to appoint as the County U17 manager.Perhaps they are having difficulty in getting a suitable candidate to follow in the very successful footsteps of McErlain.After two promising years with the U21  U21 side one also would have thought that
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on October 30, 2017, 05:44:47 PM
The gremlins got in the way of my last post!!!The complete last  line should have read.One would have thought that after two fairly successful years with the U21 County team that Fergal P McCusker would have been automatically selected as manager for the U20 team in 2018.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oneclubonelife on October 30, 2017, 06:15:17 PM
Rumour has it that the new U17 management team has been appointed and it is Paddy Campbell, think he managed Castledawson and Steelstown ,as the manager, and Fabian Muldoon and Ronan Rocks as the coaches / trainers. There is probably a few other faces in about the set up.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shantygael on November 05, 2017, 05:15:20 PM
Hard luck na magha,slow start cost them the game ,1-04 to no score after 15 minutes although got it to within two points at the break.4 or 5 score able chances missed also.grant moving up the field in second half improved their fire power, scoring a goal and the pass which got the free for the 3rd goal.gave it everything they had.ref didn't do them any favours,, couldn't buy a free.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 05, 2017, 06:40:57 PM
Hard luck na magha,slow start them the game ,1-04 to no score after 15 minutes although got it to within two points at the break.4 or 5 score able chances missed also.grant moving up the field in second half improved their fire power, scoring a goal and the pass which got the free for the 3rd goal.gave it everything they had.ref didn't do them any favours,, couldn't buy a free.

Was a great advert for junior hurling. Seriously good game.  Some heart from na magha to come back. Ref was brutal.  Setanta scorEd 12 frees. At least 7 of them very soft
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 05, 2017, 08:04:18 PM
Hard luck na magha,slow start them the game ,1-04 to no score after 15 minutes although got it to within two points at the break.4 or 5 score able chances missed also.grant moving up the field in second half improved their fire power, scoring a goal and the pass which got the free for the 3rd goal.gave it everything they had.ref didn't do them any favours,, couldn't buy a free.

Was a great advert for junior hurling. Seriously good game.  Some heart from na magha to come back. Ref was brutal.  Setanta scorEd 12 frees. At least 7 of them very soft

Fair dues also to the Derry hurlers who picked up All Star awards in their own category.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 05, 2017, 08:36:03 PM
Hard luck na magha,slow start them the game ,1-04 to no score after 15 minutes although got it to within two points at the break.4 or 5 score able chances missed also.grant moving up the field in second half improved their fire power, scoring a goal and the pass which got the free for the 3rd goal.gave it everything they had.ref didn't do them any favours,, couldn't buy a free.

Was a great advert for junior hurling. Seriously good game.  Some heart from na magha to come back. Ref was brutal.  Setanta scorEd 12 frees. At least 7 of them very soft

Fair dues also to the Derry hurlers who picked up All Star awards in their own category.

Yep great achievement for them.  Quality is there
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2017, 09:15:28 PM
It always has been. It is channeling it has been the problem.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: North Man on November 07, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on November 08, 2017, 10:00:05 AM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.
Obviously hope they do well but not a fan of the Paddy Campbell appointment and can't understand why he was appointed.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: OakleafCounty on November 08, 2017, 11:19:10 AM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.

When he managed Slaughtmanus it was soul destroying for the players. It was at least 13 men behind the ball and no kick passing allowed. I remember him subbing a player who was having a good game for kick passing (and that's no lie). A disgraceful decision by the County Board to put this type of coach in charge of our best underage talent.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on November 08, 2017, 11:26:41 AM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.

When he managed Slaughtmanus it was soul destroying for the players. It was at least 13 men behind the ball and no kick passing allowed. I remember him subbing a player who was having a good game for kick passing (and that's no lie). A disgraceful decision by the County Board to put this type of coach in charge of our best underage talent.

Ridiculous. Should have been kicked out of the club after that decision
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on November 08, 2017, 12:57:38 PM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.

When he managed Slaughtmanus it was soul destroying for the players. It was at least 13 men behind the ball and no kick passing allowed. I remember him subbing a player who was having a good game for kick passing (and that's no lie). A disgraceful decision by the County Board to put this type of coach in charge of our best underage talent.

Ridiculous. Should have been kicked out of the club after that decision

Good see a Slaughtmanus man getting ejected from the game for kicking a ball rather than kicking somebody.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on November 08, 2017, 01:00:24 PM
Remember talking to a club senior manager who had a player who was on the county team and U21 team at the same time in the recent past, that the players were told by the then current senior manager and also the u21 manager not to kick the ball either. Both have had successful management careers. glad to say the defensive tactics being employed by most teams at that time are changing.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 08, 2017, 03:44:37 PM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.

When he managed Slaughtmanus it was soul destroying for the players. It was at least 13 men behind the ball and no kick passing allowed. I remember him subbing a player who was having a good game for kick passing (and that's no lie). A disgraceful decision by the County Board to put this type of coach in charge of our best underage talent.

Ridiculous. Should have been kicked out of the club after that decision

Good see a Slaughtmanus man getting ejected from the game for kicking a ball rather than kicking somebody.

The main concern that I have about the u17 thing is the fact that there are 180 lads invited to trials. A lot of them are u15/16
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: DERRYSFINEST on November 08, 2017, 04:09:48 PM
I would love to see squad numbers brought in to u17s this year, just to see Kosta Papachristopolas on the back of a jersey!

Plays for Ballerin
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on November 08, 2017, 04:28:34 PM
I would love to see squad numbers brought in to u17s this year, just to see Kosta Papachristopolas on the back of a jersey!

Plays for Ballerin

If he makes a starting team it will be some challenge getting his name written in Irish .... that's maybe a job for Gregory !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: North Man on November 08, 2017, 04:32:31 PM
I cannot understand that some clubs have forwarded a bus load of lads to a trial that is going to be cut after one game.
Waste of a heap of clean jerseys

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 08, 2017, 04:38:26 PM
I would love to see squad numbers brought in to u17s this year, just to see Kosta Papachristopolas on the back of a jersey!

Plays for Ballerin

V common surname round Ballerin tbf
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mario on November 08, 2017, 06:42:53 PM
In the words of Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh.  His mother's from Ballerin, his father's from Greece, neither a footballing stronghold.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 08, 2017, 06:55:47 PM
Think his granda used to own the laundrette in Eastenders afaik
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on November 09, 2017, 10:35:15 AM
See Enda Muldoon and Honda are taking Banagher this year.
Michael O'Kane is taking Swatragh too having left Claudy.

Like Paddy Bradley last year, Enda is probably taking the club with the best chance of winning this coming year.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on November 09, 2017, 11:08:35 AM
See Enda Muldoon and Honda are taking Banagher this year.
Michael O'Kane is taking Swatragh too having left Claudy.

Like Paddy Bradley last year, Enda is probably taking the club with the best chance of winning this coming year.

Must be very similar to Paddy Bradley last year because Enda Muldoon is currently training with Ballinderry for the incoming season.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on November 09, 2017, 08:49:44 PM
Folks ... who is Honda?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on November 09, 2017, 10:20:17 PM
To answer Real Talk's query as to the identity of new Banagher joint manager - known as Honda - according to Michael McMullan of Derry Now he is Declan Mullan from Banagher itself.The man who links up with the legendary Enda Muldoon specialises in Strength and Conditioning and coached Glenullin last year under their manager Liam Bradley.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on November 10, 2017, 09:08:00 AM
To answer Real Talk's query as to the identity of new Banagher joint manager - known as Honda - according to Michael McMullan of Derry Now he is Declan Mullan from Banagher itself.The man who links up with the legendary Enda Muldoon specialises in Strength and Conditioning and coached Glenullin last year under their manager Liam Bradley.

Anthony Begley also in with Banagher. Strange having 2 men that specialise in Strength and Conditioning.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on November 10, 2017, 11:55:43 AM
Looks like the legend Enda Muldoon has played his last game of football. Originally showed up to Ballinderry's start of season meeting a couple of Sunday's ago raring for another year of football at 40 years of age. But has apparently changed his mind and will not combine playing with managing unlike Paddy Bradley last year.

Going to miss Enda as he was an absolute joy to watch. Ballindery will miss him even more so as he was still a massive player for them. I wonder will deets (wasn't at the Ballinderry meeting) and a few other older fella's call it a day aswell as he was recently linked with a position in the Sligo backroom team, heard very good reports on his training style from Coalisland fellas.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on November 10, 2017, 01:54:16 PM
Seeing that we have good Ballinderry men involved both with the Derry  Senior  County team and Derry U17 side for 2018 what are the chances of another Shamrocks man being involved with the County U20 side for next year?

Hopefully the current impasse in selecting a manager for that team will be resolved soon.As I said before most ordinary Derry supporters would have expected that Fergal P McCusker would have been reappointed for a third term.After all he did trojan work with the last two U21 teams,bringing them to this year's Ulster final.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 11, 2017, 11:19:28 PM
In the words of Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh.  His mother's from Ballerin, his father's from Greece, neither a footballing stronghold.

MÓM would have more respect. Ballerin were Ulster Club Senior Football Champions and reached the All Ireland Final.

Same as Slaughtneil who were superb tonight against a class Kilcar team. Game of the year.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on November 12, 2017, 01:27:20 PM
Half time in Armagh ,Bridge 0-07 Moy 0-04
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on November 12, 2017, 02:07:22 PM
Never got going in second half beat 2-15 to 1-09
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on November 12, 2017, 03:22:05 PM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 12, 2017, 04:00:27 PM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.

In fact, it isn't even a parish!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on November 13, 2017, 10:56:30 AM
Really good game on Saturday evening, quality football with lots of scores and a belter of a goal from Shea. Hard to see the Nailers not winning Ulster, and good luck to them. However a few points, I though Kilcar left it behind them, never seen the Nailers get cut open so often in one game, the amount of goal chances that Kilcar missed would have gotten them over the line. Rodgers was destroyed by Mc Beraty who is a class footballer. Karl did a super job on ryan Mc Hugh who I think is over rated, it Donegals style that allows him to play, when man against man he is always subdued. Apart from marking him out of the game Karl contributed to the Nailers attacking game.  Feeney also marked Eoin Mc Hugh well, except on the kick outs where Feeneys lack of physically was exposed. Tadd, Mc Grath, the two Chrisys also played well, but Mc Mullan was the start of the game for me. Finally Chrissys goal should have been disallowed as he did not flick the ball to the net, he threw it.  Great entertainment.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 13, 2017, 06:12:45 PM
Letting McBearty scoring 5pts no matter how good he is, would be a worry down the line
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on November 13, 2017, 09:17:07 PM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.
I'm curious brave heart. How was it a better year for derry gaa?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 13, 2017, 09:35:52 PM
Rodgers v McBrearty was a fantastic battle on Saturday. In the first 15 minutes Rodgers went one to one and beat him to every ball. Three Kilcar players in a row tried to take Rodgers out as he tore up the sideline, McBrearty with a punch to the ribs, Hegarty with a fist to his face and Eoin McHugh with some sort of a karate kick attempt to the head. Second 15 McBrearty won, although Rodgers was taken out by McGinley as he tried to stop McBrearty scoring from play. Nothing should take away from an outstanding performance by our County and Ulster Champions, against the odds at halftime with O'Dohery gone.  Kilcar did not leave it behind, Slaughtneil went for in the second half and won it with top class football.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on November 14, 2017, 10:27:59 AM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.
I'm curious brave heart. How was it a better year for derry gaa?
it is very simple. It is unusual for "all" the Derry club sides to reach the semifinals of Ulster in the same year,so that means it is a better year. I'm dissapointed both Newbridge and Doire Trasna lost because I want Derry teams of all descriptions winning.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on November 14, 2017, 10:56:32 AM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.
I'm curious brave heart. How was it a better year for derry gaa?
it is very simple. It is unusual for "all" the Derry club sides to reach the semifinals of Ulster in the same year,so that means it is a better year. I'm dissapointed both Newbridge and Doire Trasna lost because I want Derry teams of all descriptions winning.
How did our representatives all do last year?
slaughtneil won ulster and only for an unfortunate sending off would likely be reigning all Ireland champions. Castledawson put up a brave show against a very strong Pomeroy outfit, and Magilligan were beat in a quarter final??
Sorry I stand corrected. Much better year for Derry football on the back of our junior champs going one round further  ::)
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: RedandBlacks on November 14, 2017, 12:19:25 PM
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on November 14, 2017, 12:29:55 PM
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May

who were the Intermediate / Junior finalists that year RnB?

__________________________________________________________________________


The draw for next year's Ulster minor football championship (U17) took place tonight.

Under the new fixture calander the championship gets undeway in April and is separate from the senior championship.

In the preliminary round Derry play Monaghan on Saturday 21 April, with the winners progressing to a quarter-final against Cavan.

The quarter-finals on the A side of the draw are Antrim v Fermanagh and Donegal v Tyrone, with the winners of both games meeting in the semi-final.

On the other side of the draw Down play Armagh with the winner of that tie meeting Derry/Monaghan/Cavan in the last four.

The quarter-finals are fixed for Saturday 28 April.

All games must be concluded on the day with no replays. If two periods of extra time can't separate teams on the day, a free taking competition will decide the winner.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on November 14, 2017, 01:09:58 PM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.
I'm curious brave heart. How was it a better year for derry gaa?
it is very simple. It is unusual for "all" the Derry club sides to reach the semifinals of Ulster in the same year,so that means it is a better year. I'm dissapointed both Newbridge and Doire Trasna lost because I want Derry teams of all descriptions winning.
How did our representatives all do last year?
slaughtneil won ulster and only for an unfortunate sending off would likely be reigning all Ireland champions. Castledawson put up a brave show against a very strong Pomeroy outfit, and Magilligan were beat in a quarter final??
Sorry I stand corrected. Much better year for Derry football on the back of our junior champs going one round further  ::)
it is alright. And 2008 was 9 yrs ago RnB. I was in my prime in 2008. I thought it was a better year,it was my opinion, I'm hopeful our county is improving and next year we improve again
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on November 14, 2017, 01:15:41 PM
We have only ever won the Ulster Intermediate club championship 3 times and have never won the Ulster Junior club so progress in these competitions can only be encouraged.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: RedandBlacks on November 14, 2017, 01:48:47 PM
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May

who were the Intermediate / Junior finalists that year RnB?

__________________________________________________________________________


The draw for next year's Ulster minor football championship (U17) took place tonight.

Under the new fixture calander the championship gets undeway in April and is separate from the senior championship.

In the preliminary round Derry play Monaghan on Saturday 21 April, with the winners progressing to a quarter-final against Cavan.

The quarter-finals on the A side of the draw are Antrim v Fermanagh and Donegal v Tyrone, with the winners of both games meeting in the semi-final.

On the other side of the draw Down play Armagh with the winner of that tie meeting Derry/Monaghan/Cavan in the last four.

The quarter-finals are fixed for Saturday 28 April.

All games must be concluded on the day with no replays. If two periods of extra time can't separate teams on the day, a free taking competition will decide the winner.


Ballinderry Greenlough and Lissan
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on November 14, 2017, 01:53:22 PM
thanks
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on November 14, 2017, 07:05:50 PM
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May

who were the Intermediate / Junior finalists that year RnB?

__________________________________________________________________________


The draw for next year's Ulster minor football championship (U17) took place tonight.

Under the new fixture calander the championship gets undeway in April and is separate from the senior championship.

In the preliminary round Derry play Monaghan on Saturday 21 April, with the winners progressing to a quarter-final against Cavan.

The quarter-finals on the A side of the draw are Antrim v Fermanagh and Donegal v Tyrone, with the winners of both games meeting in the semi-final.

On the other side of the draw Down play Armagh with the winner of that tie meeting Derry/Monaghan/Cavan in the last four.

The quarter-finals are fixed for Saturday 28 April.

All games must be concluded on the day with no replays. If two periods of extra time can't separate teams on the day, a free taking competition will decide the winner.


Ballinderry Greenlough and Lissan

Marty Carey captained Greenlough in the final. He is playing for John Mitchels in Liverpool now.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on November 14, 2017, 07:29:48 PM
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May

who were the Intermediate / Junior finalists that year RnB?

__________________________________________________________________________


The draw for next year's Ulster minor football championship (U17) took place tonight.

Under the new fixture calander the championship gets undeway in April and is separate from the senior championship.

In the preliminary round Derry play Monaghan on Saturday 21 April, with the winners progressing to a quarter-final against Cavan.

The quarter-finals on the A side of the draw are Antrim v Fermanagh and Donegal v Tyrone, with the winners of both games meeting in the semi-final.

On the other side of the draw Down play Armagh with the winner of that tie meeting Derry/Monaghan/Cavan in the last four.

The quarter-finals are fixed for Saturday 28 April.

All games must be concluded on the day with no replays. If two periods of extra time can't separate teams on the day, a free taking competition will decide the winner.


Ballinderry Greenlough and Lissan

Marty Carey captained Greenlough in the final. He is playing for John Mitchels in Liverpool now.

Where did it all go wrong Marty?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: thepundit on November 15, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
What is the story with the age structure for club underage football? is it going to under 20s, 17s and 15s or going to stay the same? sounds like a bloody headache!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on November 15, 2017, 11:25:29 AM
What is the story with the age structure for club underage football? is it going to under 20s, 17s and 15s or going to stay the same? sounds like a bloody headache!

I believe it is the same as normal in club scene eg. u12, u14, u16, minors(u18). Only being county minors is changed to u17 and county u21s is changed to u20's.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on November 15, 2017, 12:11:42 PM
What is the story with the age structure for club underage football? is it going to under 20s, 17s and 15s or going to stay the same? sounds like a bloody headache!

I believe it is the same as normal in club scene eg. u12, u14, u16, minors(u18). Only being county minors is changed to u17 and county u21s is changed to u20's.
I don't think it's been decided yet afaik. I think there is to be a meeting about it. Would probably make sense to change to the U11/13/15/17/20 age groups because of the minor age change. Don't see how/why it would be a headache?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on November 15, 2017, 12:51:11 PM
Well if u have U 17 county and club stays at U 16 and U 18 there would probably be a knock on effect for both these grades getting games played which would not have been such a big impact previously.  I predict that grades at club will change to U17 and U15 etc this incoming year.  Decision is to be made in next couple of weeks afaik. Ps I think this change at national level is a load of bollocks.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shawshank on November 15, 2017, 01:03:28 PM
If there is a change this year it is would be a travesty. It would be typical of the culture within the Gaa currently whereby the club player is treated like shite. The season past when every one knew it was the last season of inter count u18 level, an u17 com po was ran to ensure those players at u17 would not be forgotten about. But here in Derrty are you suggesting that next seasons u18 players should be dispensed with, without any consideration of a ‘gap’ year for them. For some that would no minor this season as they weren’t good enough to get on this years u18 team, and if this crap is pushed through, no football this incoming season as they will be playing- sorry training at u20 level.

At county level the players were treated with respect, but the Club player can go f**k them selves.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on November 15, 2017, 01:31:47 PM
If there is a change this year it is would be a travesty. It would be typical of the culture within the Gaa currently whereby the club player is treated like shite. The season past when every one knew it was the last season of inter count u18 level, an u17 com po was ran to ensure those players at u17 would not be forgotten about. But here in Derrty are you suggesting that next seasons u18 players should be dispensed with, without any consideration of a ‘gap’ year for them. For some that would no minor this season as they weren’t good enough to get on this years u18 team, and if this crap is pushed through, no football this incoming season as they will be playing- sorry training at u20 level.

At county level the players were treated with respect, but the Club player can go f**k them selves.
Not sure who this is aimed at but no, as per above, nothing has been agreed as of yet. A 'gap' year could be an option or a bigger emphasis on U20. Also, if the age groups stay as is the clubs are more likely to be adversely affected as it could mean cancellations of u16 and u18 games if the county U17s are successful. It probably makes most sense to align the age groups with county for down the line.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on November 15, 2017, 02:49:15 PM
Personally feel it was an absolute load of bollix ever changing county football from u18 and u21 to u17 and u20's
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on November 15, 2017, 03:01:30 PM
Personally feel it was an absolute load of bollix ever changing county football from u18 and u21 to u17 and u20's

All to do with leaving cert down south. By lowering the age to u17 this means that the majority of players will no longer be trying to play county minor the same year as their leaving cert exams. Its a Player welfare thing that I'm sure most of the genius posters on here will complain about anyway.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on November 15, 2017, 04:15:47 PM
I think this consultation process is being run at Ulster level.

I wasn't suggesting what should be done just giving my (worthless) opinion as to what will happen. If this alignment doesnt happen this year it will definitely happen next year. And it will of course mean that players in their last year of U18 minor will miss out on their last year of underage, either this year or next, which is an inevitable consequence of this change. As I said earlier its a load of crap imo.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: thepundit on November 15, 2017, 08:40:02 PM
No matter what way it goes there is going to be serious implications! Under 20s is going to be the biggest problem to solve. This is the age that there is the biggest drop of rate! At the minute I can't see a lot of teams being able to field on a consistent basis.  It will certainly take a few years to bed into place.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on November 15, 2017, 11:10:53 PM
Personally feel it was an absolute load of bollix ever changing county football from u18 and u21 to u17 and u20's

Agree Toby

.... U17's probably geared to suit the school system on the southern side of what will be the 'new hard border' dividing this island

.... the U20's  I just don't know
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 15, 2017, 11:31:31 PM
Personally feel it was an absolute load of bollix ever changing county football from u18 and u21 to u17 and u20's

Agree Toby

.... U17's probably geared to suit the school system on the southern side of what will be the 'new hard border' dividing this island

.... the U20's  I just don't know

Was the MacRory Cup not geared at under 18 and a half once to suit the school system in Ulster? Does U17 not benefit the whole island? No division.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on November 16, 2017, 09:32:13 AM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on November 16, 2017, 03:25:39 PM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on November 16, 2017, 03:45:00 PM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)

Heh?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on November 16, 2017, 09:34:25 PM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)

Heh?

The idea of moving the age from under 18 to u17 was so our young players wouldn't have to combine playing  county minor football with the biggest exams of their lives in the same year.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on November 16, 2017, 09:53:44 PM
We all know that the biggest drop off in the gaa happens between the ages of 17 - 20.  There are a few obvious reasons for this. Most players who are likely to play senior club football are either playing or pushing hard to make the senior team by 19/20. Many players who are just not talented enough at this age often try other sports or interests. Also around this age boys prioritise other things in their lives such as jobs, education,  social life, women etc and good luck to them. Committing to an amateur sport and dedicating yourself to it just isn't for everyone.
Must admit that I agree totally with the shift from u21 to u20 but personally I'm not so sure about moving u18 to u17. I feel this is too young for competitive county football but I can understand why the change has been made at this age.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on November 17, 2017, 08:31:50 AM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)

Heh?

The idea of moving the age from under 18 to u17 was so our young players wouldn't have to combine playing  county minor football with the biggest exams of their lives in the same year.

Yeah I already knew that. I was pointing out that that it was the same whether doing leaving cert or A level in response to someone saying it favoured 26 co minors.

I havent a clue what ur comments are about. Don't think u do either.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on November 17, 2017, 10:46:49 AM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)

Heh?

The idea of moving the age from under 18 to u17 was so our young players wouldn't have to combine playing  county minor football with the biggest exams of their lives in the same year.

Yeah I already knew that. I was pointing out that that it was the same whether doing leaving cert or A level in response to someone saying it favoured 26 co minors.

I havent a clue what ur comments are about. Don't think u do either.

Apologies Keyser I picked you up wrong there. Your point is indeed a valid one.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on November 17, 2017, 09:25:46 PM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)

Heh?

The idea of moving the age from under 18 to u17 was so our young players wouldn't have to combine playing  county minor football with the biggest exams of their lives in the same year.

Yeah I already knew that. I was pointing out that that it was the same whether doing leaving cert or A level in response to someone saying it favoured 26 co minors.

I havent a clue what ur comments are about. Don't think u do either.

Apologies Keyser I picked you up wrong there. Your point is indeed a valid one.

Micky donnelly from aghaloo is the new u20 manager for derry.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: skeog on November 17, 2017, 09:38:06 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on November 17, 2017, 11:28:47 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Correct it's sad. Too many of derry's best coaches are getting far too much money up in tyrone to consider taking derrys underage teams.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on November 18, 2017, 12:48:14 PM
Has Derry's new  U20 football manager Mickey Donnelly of Tyrone  announced his back room team?

Hopefully included will be some very able and talented Derry men with vision and footballing expertise - especially in the tactics and coaching know how of the modern game - to supplement the excellent C.V of the Aughnacloy man.

It is vital that the great work of the past three years of Damian McErlain and his Minor management team be built upon and developed properly so that the players can seamlessly move forward from being good minors and through  the ranks of the U20's onto Senior inter county standard.

I am sure an Provincial  title  will be the aim of the new U20 management team.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 18, 2017, 02:17:23 PM
Joe isn't happy - and he's stopping giving money to Club Derry

https://twitter.com/JoeBrolly1993/status/931887386367324161
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 18, 2017, 04:33:17 PM
for years good underage coaching in Derry has been ignored, greed or people needing to add to their income due to personal reasons means many good coaches are all outside the county or been paid alot by club teams in the county means these 2 teams where ignored for a no of years at minor and u-21, abit of outside intervention may improve the standards  of underage teams.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TROUSERS on November 18, 2017, 08:06:21 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Correct it's sad. Too many of derry's best coaches are getting far too much money up in tyrone to consider taking derrys underage teams.

Who like?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 18, 2017, 09:17:47 PM
Joe isn't happy - and he's stopping giving money to Club Derry

https://twitter.com/JoeBrolly1993/status/931887386367324161

Joe is generally unhappy and has been for a number of years. Pretend loyalty may fool you but not those who know that Joe will implode very soon, probably live on RTÉ.  Club Derry will be all the richer without him. Joe, who craves to be one of the lads but never was and never will be so he makes more noise to get more attention.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on November 18, 2017, 09:25:01 PM
Paddy crozier?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 18, 2017, 09:32:57 PM
Paddy crozier?
Paddy was with Omagh and Damien Cassidy was with Clonoe.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on November 18, 2017, 09:48:51 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Correct it's sad. Too many of derry's best coaches are getting far too much money up in tyrone to consider taking derrys underage teams.


Who are they? Can’t think of any Derry men in throne apart from Barton?

Off the top of my head in the last few seasons there's been barton, crozier, cassidy, boyle, mcguckin, gilligan, conway and devlin at least. There may have been more.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mikhailov on November 18, 2017, 10:12:28 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Correct it's sad. Too many of derry's best coaches are getting far too much money up in tyrone to consider taking derrys underage teams.


Who are they? Can’t think of any Derry men in throne apart from Barton?

Off the top of my head in the last few seasons there's been barton, crozier, cassidy, boyle, mcguckin and devlin at least. There may have been more.

Who are Boyle, McGuckian and Devlin?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on November 19, 2017, 01:42:44 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Correct it's sad. Too many of derry's best coaches are getting far too much money up in tyrone to consider taking derrys underage teams.


Who are they? Can’t think of any Derry men in throne apart from Barton?

Off the top of my head in the last few seasons there's been barton, crozier, cassidy, boyle, mcguckin and devlin at least. There may have been more.

Who are Boyle, McGuckian and Devlin?

It's mcguckin not mcguckian. That'd be ronan, also fintan devlin at errigal. Mckindless and gormley are 2 others who've managed tyrone clubs in very recent times.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Glenman93 on November 19, 2017, 02:18:47 PM

Don’t listen to fake news. From a very reliable source not a single Derry club put forward a candidate for either U17 or U20 manager. They were given six weeks to discuss and nominate but none came back with a name.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 19, 2017, 06:28:46 PM

Don’t listen to fake news. From a very reliable source not a single Derry club put forward a candidate for either U17 or U20 manager. They were given six weeks to discuss and nominate but none came back with a name.
Are you referring to Brolly fake news?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mountain Gael on November 19, 2017, 09:30:07 PM
Has Derry's new  U20 football manager Mickey Donnelly of Tyrone  announced his back room team?

Hopefully included will be some very able and talented Derry men with vision and footballing expertise - especially in the tactics and coaching know how of the modern game - to supplement the excellent C.V of the Aughnacloy man.
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It is vital that the great work of the past three years of Damian McErlain and his Minor management team be built upon and developed properly so that the players can seamlessly move forward from being good minors and through  the ranks of the U20's onto Senior inter county standard.

I am sure an Provincial  title  will be the aim of the new U20 management team.
Excellent CV???????
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on November 20, 2017, 11:15:10 AM

Don’t listen to fake news. From a very reliable source not a single Derry club put forward a candidate for either U17 or U20 manager. They were given six weeks to discuss and nominate but none came back with a name.

That annual system that the C B use to get Managers nominated hasn't worked and wont get the best candidate ... mainly because most Clubs don't care .... or which has often been the case when they do put in a nomination it isn't even acknowledged. 

When the CB (maybe just the Chairman !!!) has someone in mind he then gets a Club/Clubs to nominate him/them to make it look as though the system works. 

What is really needed is a sub committee officially appointed by the CB (not Club Derry) to recommend a list of suitable candidates for all teams.  The CB should then arrange a process to select the best candidate with the sub-committee have representation on that selection process.

This should be completed in September/October each year
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: thepundit on November 20, 2017, 02:27:30 PM
Personally I think it was about time Fergal parted ways. Under21s in the past few seasons have done decent but didn't reach their actual targets. Fergal had a number of top calibre of player at his disposal and was twice outclassed by Donegal.  One thing Fergal did have was a top coach in Big Enda. I think its a must for the new setup to get in a Derry man with calibre of Enda and one that they will fully respect. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on November 20, 2017, 03:56:05 PM
Both Fergal and Enda are Derry legends, so full respect to both, but as Enda being a 1st class coach, totally without foundation yet (has the personality for it), surely if he was coach to the u21s last season he is as culpable as the manager??
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on November 20, 2017, 04:17:09 PM
Re the appointment of a highly respected former Derry player to new U20  County manager Mickey Donnnelly's backroom team I think it is highly unlikely that Enda Mulddon, if asked, would take up the post for two practical reasons.

Firstly he would probably not do so out of a sense of loyalty to Fergal McCusker with whom he worked with last year and secondly and more importantly he probably would not be available to do so as he has been appointed joint manager of Banagher club side.

Nevertheless for the future good of Derry football it is imperative that a backroom team with a highly respected and capable  backroom team is assembled quickly so that the excellent underage work of the last three years is developed and built upon.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: thepundit on November 20, 2017, 06:38:41 PM
Both Fergal and Enda are Derry legends, so full respect to both, but as Enda being a 1st class coach, totally without foundation yet (has the personality for it), surely if he was coach to the u21s last season he is as culpable as the manager??

I wouldn't say that.. the manager is the one that implements the playing style and the one who makes the decisions on the starting 15. From what I seen of the under 21s they often didn't know what style of football they were trying to play. I think that fergal was out done by opposition tactics. As for big enda.. by no means is he the finished article as a manager/coach.. and he will learn a lot from his time at banager but as a player he was a master at the basic skills to the highest degree and in his coaching he brings those basics to the forefront
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bannside on November 20, 2017, 08:15:40 PM
Are you saying a manager wouldn't consult with his coach 're s playing style or on occasions team selection? Or would you be one of these managers who wants to do it all yourself?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on November 20, 2017, 08:27:45 PM
Both Fergal and Enda are Derry legends, so full respect to both, but as Enda being a 1st class coach, totally without foundation yet (has the personality for it), surely if he was coach to the u21s last season he is as culpable as the manager??

I wouldn't say that.. the manager is the one that implements the playing style and the one who makes the decisions on the starting 15. From what I seen of the under 21s they often didn't know what style of football they were trying to play. I think that fergal was out done by opposition tactics. As for big enda.. by no means is he the finished article as a manager/coach.. and he will learn a lot from his time at banager but as a player he was a master at the basic skills to the highest degree and in his coaching he brings those basics to the forefront

Just out of curiosity what do you think the role of the coach(es) is at county if it isn’t to coach a system of play for defense and offence and coach kick out strategy.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: thepundit on November 20, 2017, 09:57:31 PM
Well yes in normal circumstances the coach will be implementing the managers style of play. In this case however I don't think they were singing of the same hymn sheet.  Whether they did or they didn't agree and coach the same style of football , they failed at winning an Ulster title and county needed to go in a new direction!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on November 22, 2017, 09:44:11 AM
Well if you are the manager and the coach is not implementing your style of play you don't just plough on regardless....you get a new coach.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on November 23, 2017, 01:09:20 PM
Rest in peace Frankie kearney.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: sensethetone on November 23, 2017, 01:33:48 PM
Rest in peace Frankie kearney.
Was he the principle in Holy Trinity?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on November 23, 2017, 02:30:17 PM
The late Frankie Kearney who died this morning was a great Gael - loyal Glen club man and committed Derry County supporter.He was an outstanding Manager of Derrry in the 1970's and he and his terrific bunch of players shared many great victories at  Provincial level.

He will always be remembered with great fondness for designing the crest for the Derry County jersey and all County GAA official insignia.

He was also a skilled organiser at County Board level and his meticulous attention to his financial duties as Ciste Gael  coordinator will never be forgotten.

For many years he was the highly respected Principal of Holy Trinity College in Cookstown.Deepest sympathy to all  his family and the Glen club in particular.

Rest in peace dear friend. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 24, 2017, 01:13:35 AM
Sorry to hear of Frankie's death, he taught in St. Paul's, Kilrea, for many years also. Derry manager for back to back Ulster titles in 75/76 and indeed a great Gael. Many of the players on those teams would attribute their senior success to Frankie's vision and leadership - and at a very difficult political time trying to bring men from the Bogside and South Derry together to train. He was a font of knowledge re all things GAA and I think he was on the Glen team which won the All Ireland Scór Quiz in the 70s. I measc laochra na nGael go raibh a anam Gaelach.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 25, 2017, 08:04:31 PM
Good luck to Slaughtneil tomorrow, despite injuries they probably should have enough to win. Would be the first ever Derry club to win back to back Ulster Club titles never mind the double Ulster treble!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on November 25, 2017, 09:23:25 PM
Good luck to Slaughtneil tomorrow, despite injuries they probably should have enough to win. Would be the first ever Derry club to win back to back Ulster Club titles never mind the double Ulster treble!

Would this be the first time the actually have 3 regulars injured ?  It would a 'big ask' to start Barry McGuigan but the also have other good players but lack match experience at this level.  But being a special bunch I think they will manage a win.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on November 26, 2017, 03:50:47 AM
Does anybody have provisional Derry panel? Any of the ego’s who abandoned the county last year invited back?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on November 26, 2017, 10:42:26 AM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

A million years is a slight exaggeration you arrogant pr**k. You had a derry man managing your u21s not that long ago, peter doherty.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quiganmaster on November 26, 2017, 05:02:18 PM
Got to feel sorry for the cattle around Slaughtneil, the poor f**kers never get milked!

Congrats to the Emmetts, stronger than last years team?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: longballin on November 26, 2017, 05:04:06 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

A million years is a slight exaggeration you arrogant pr**k. You had a derry man managing your u21s not that long ago, peter doherty.

considering he's lived over 30 years in Tyrone...
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on November 26, 2017, 06:02:02 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

A million years is a slight exaggeration you arrogant pr**k. You had a derry man managing your u21s not that long ago, peter doherty.

considering he's lived over 30 years in Tyrone...

He's still a derry man.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: longballin on November 26, 2017, 06:45:40 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

A million years is a slight exaggeration you arrogant pr**k. You had a derry man managing your u21s not that long ago, peter doherty.

considering he's lived over 30 years in Tyrone...

He's still a derry man.

bit of a difference to a Tyrone man who never lived a day in Derry in his life. It's ok, you're welcome to him....
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 26, 2017, 08:45:08 PM
Got to feel sorry for the cattle around Slaughtneil, the poor f**kers never get milked!

Congrats to the Emmetts, stronger than last years team?

Definitely, in my opinion, some of the younger ones playing with greater maturity now and putting up bigger scores, whch is a must to challenge for the Andy Merrigan. Fantastic achievement,
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tbrick18 on November 27, 2017, 11:00:23 AM
Some achievement Slaughtneil, and it has to be said, well deserved.
Definately stronger than last year as they have become a much more attacking outfit whilst still maintaining the defensive part of their game.
I cant see them beat this time around. I think they will, and should, win the whole thing this time around.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on November 28, 2017, 09:13:14 AM
Managerial merry go round..Could we fill in the blanks?



Bellaghy - joe cassidy
Ballinascreen -
Ballinderry - harte & o'donnell
Claudy -
Coleraine - sean mcgoldrick
Dungiven -
Glen -
Glenullin -
Greenlough - naill conway
Kilrea -
Lavey - brennan & seamus downey
Loup - kevin coary
Magherafelt
Newbridge - paddy bradley
Slaughtneil -
Swatragh -
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on November 28, 2017, 10:35:04 AM
Managerial merry go round..Could we fill in the blanks?



Bellaghy - joe cassidy
Ballinascreen -
Ballinderry - harte & o'donnell
Claudy - Chris Collins
Coleraine - sean mcgoldrick
Dungiven -
Glen - Enda Gormley & Seamus Doyle
Glenullin -
Greenlough - naill conway
Kilrea -
Lavey - brennan & seamus downey
Loup - kevin coary
Magherafelt -
Newbridge - paddy bradley
Slaughtneil -
Swatragh -
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Waataboutyee on November 28, 2017, 12:29:25 PM
Managerial merry go round..Could we fill in the blanks?



Bellaghy - joe cassidy
Ballinascreen - Barry Dillon
Ballinderry - harte & o'donnell
Claudy - Chris Collins
Coleraine - sean mcgoldrick
Dungiven -
Glen - Enda Gormley & Seamus Doyle
Glenullin -
Greenlough - naill conway
Kilrea -
Lavey - brennan & seamus downey
Loup - kevin coary
Magherafelt - Adrian Cush
Newbridge - paddy bradley
Slaughtneil -  8)
Swatragh - Michael O'Kane
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on November 28, 2017, 02:54:09 PM
Managerial merry go round..Could we fill in the blanks?



Bellaghy - joe cassidy
Ballinascreen - Barry Dillon
Ballinderry - harte & o'donnell
Claudy - Chris Collins
Coleraine - sean mcgoldrick
Dungiven -
Glen - Enda Gormley & Seamus Doyle
Glenullin -
Greenlough - naill conway
Kilrea -
Lavey - brennan & seamus downey
Loup - kevin coary
Magherafelt - Adrian Cush           Ex Tyrone player Adrian Cush?
Newbridge - paddy bradley
Slaughtneil -  8)
Swatragh - Michael O'Kane
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on November 29, 2017, 01:15:16 PM
Managerial merry go round..Could we fill in the blanks?



Bellaghy - joe cassidy
Ballinascreen - Barry Dillon
Ballinderry - harte & o'donnell
Claudy - Chris Collins
Coleraine - sean mcgoldrick
Dungiven -
Glen - Enda Gormley & Seamus Doyle
Glenullin -
Greenlough - naill conway
Kilrea -
Lavey - brennan & seamus downey
Loup - kevin coary
Magherafelt - Adrian Cush           Ex Tyrone player Adrian Cush?
Newbridge - paddy bradley
Slaughtneil -  8)
Swatragh - Michael O'Kane
first i heard about Adrian Cush, I assume it is him (ex tyrone player)
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: uimhr ocht on November 30, 2017, 09:20:45 AM
Do the clubs have a vote in regards to the changing of underage structure next year?the ccc are going to make the decision I believe.if they decide to change it probably would make sense to bring it in next year rather than delay for another season.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on November 30, 2017, 09:41:31 AM
The views of the clubs were sought on this matter, not sure if it was a 'vote' per se. Happened about about a week ago.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fr. Cyril McDuff on November 30, 2017, 11:23:07 AM
Do the clubs have a vote in regards to the changing of underage structure next year?the ccc are going to make the decision I believe.if they decide to change it probably would make sense to bring it in next year rather than delay for another season.

What about all the lads who were expecting to play minor club football in the coming year?
I get why the change is being made but most 18 year olds aren't ready for senior football and reserve football is a shambles. Changing to U17 at club level would be fine if there was a vibrant reserve or U20 structure already in place. In Derry this is not the case. Imo they need to sort what's happening with U20 first and run it for a season before any change is made to club minors.
Clubs will lose players who would otherwise still be playing. Some will go to soccer/rugby some will quit sport completely.
The decision to change to U17 was made to suit the elite player (those on schools, club senior and county minor squads) and not the majority - a common theme. Someone who just plays for their club minor team should be able to combine this with exams etc fairly easily.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on November 30, 2017, 11:58:05 AM
Do the clubs have a vote in regards to the changing of underage structure next year?the ccc are going to make the decision I believe.if they decide to change it probably would make sense to bring it in next year rather than delay for another season.

What about all the lads who were expecting to play minor club football in the coming year?
I get why the change is being made but most 18 year olds aren't ready for senior football and reserve football is a shambles. Changing to U17 at club level would be fine if there was a vibrant reserve or U20 structure already in place. In Derry this is not the case. Imo they need to sort what's happening with U20 first and run it for a season before any change is made to club minors.
Clubs will lose players who would otherwise still be playing. Some will go to soccer/rugby some will quit sport completely.
The decision to change to U17 was made to suit the elite player (those on schools, club senior and county minor squads) and not the majority - a common theme. Someone who just plays for their club minor team should be able to combine this with exams etc fairly easily.

I agree with what you are saying but the issue has been made very complex by the changes at county level in that county training/matches etc will now affect how both U16 and U18 competitions will be run off whereas before it impacted only on the U18 age group. The rationale in aligning them [at U15 & U17] is to diminish the impact on club competitions. I predict the county board will go ahead and change this for 2018 competitions as it will be changed at Congress next year anyway.

Really crap especially for players who will miss their last year of minor at both club and county level. IMO the whole thing is a complete pot of piss engineered by that clown Duffy to mark his 'legacy'. More players will be quitting GAA at an earlier age than before under this scheme. I would say this will revert back to the status quo ante at the earliest opportunity. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on November 30, 2017, 08:35:30 PM
Having just seen the McKenna Cup draw, does anyone know  if Damian McErlain and most of the other County managers are carrying on the proud and fair  tradition of previous  managers releasing their college-based players to play for the colleges,especially in the group stages of the competition?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on November 30, 2017, 11:01:33 PM
Having just seen the McKenna Cup draw, does anyone know  if Damian McErlain and most of the other County managers are carrying on the proud and fair  tradition of previous  managers releasing their college-based players to play for the colleges,especially in the group stages of the competition?
No doubt Mickey Harte will continue with his unfair and not so proud tradition!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: thepundit on December 01, 2017, 09:58:17 AM
Having just seen the McKenna Cup draw, does anyone know  if Damian McErlain and most of the other County managers are carrying on the proud and fair  tradition of previous  managers releasing their college-based players to play for the colleges,especially in the group stages of the competition?
No doubt Mickey Harte will continue with his unfair and not so proud tradition!

Yes this is true that this is a tradition in the McKenna Cup. But can Damien really let all his college players play for their universities. From all reports I have heard Damien is carrying a 26 man panel and that's including the Slaughtneil contingent. With his squad being extremely young by all reports, surely he wouldn't even have 15 men to field!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 03, 2017, 02:33:00 PM
Why only carry a 26 man panel this time of year; has he narrowed down the panel to the bare mininium without seeing how half perform on a county panel! Theres enough players in derry without the need for uni players and some seasoned lkayers who need a rest: if all the best players make themselves available and are actually selected!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: South Derry fan on December 03, 2017, 04:46:21 PM
To add to what the weasel has said we should have more than enough quality players in Derry to compete in the McKenna cup and Div 3 of the NFL until the Slaughtneill players are available. The panel from last year added to by the stay away players should leave us very competitive. Have all the players who opted out last year made themselves available again? Why has no panel been announced yet?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on December 03, 2017, 07:36:06 PM
It has been said that there are only 26 players,including the Slaughtneil contingent, on the Derry Senior football panel.As one would expect that there would be at least 7 Slaughtneil men - ie A McMullan,the two McKaigues,Brendan Rogers,Padraig Cassidy,Christopher Bradley and Shane McGuigan - on the squad that would mean that there would only be 19 players available for the McKenna Cup.
I think that it is extremely doubtful that Damian McErlain would  prepare for the League with such a limited number of players.
Anyhow we are only,I hope,in the realm of unfounded speculation.Going by his record of publicly announcing his minor panels,well in advance, over the last three years one would expect that an announcement of his present plans,including names of panellists, both for the McKenna Cup and League would be imminent.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on December 03, 2017, 10:40:37 PM
To add to what the weasel has said we should have more than enough quality players in Derry to compete in the McKenna cup and Div 3 of the NFL until the Slaughtneill players are available. The panel from last year added to by the stay away players should leave us very competitive. Have all the players who opted out last year made themselves available again? Why has no panel been announced yet?
Keep an eye on the Derry website as that is how panels are normally announced.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on December 04, 2017, 08:23:22 AM
It has been said that there are only 26 players,including the Slaughtneil contingent, on the Derry Senior football panel.As one would expect that there would be at least 7 Slaughtneil men - ie A McMullan,the two McKaigues,Brendan Rogers,Padraig Cassidy,Christopher Bradley and Shane McGuigan - on the squad that would mean that there would only be 19 players available for the McKenna Cup.
I think that it is extremely doubtful that Damian McErlain would  prepare for the League with such a limited number of players.
Anyhow we are only,I hope,in the realm of unfounded speculation.Going by his record of publicly announcing his minor panels,well in advance, over the last three years one would expect that an announcement of his present plans,including names of panellists, both for the McKenna Cup and League would be imminent.


Talking to a panellist over the weekend, I had asked how many were up training and he said not a lot. Didn't give me an exact number of the men but said they were missing 7(good guess you were correct) slaughtneil men until at lease Feb. Michael Bateson was with Newbridge so had joined late and then 2/3 men with niggles/injuries.

McKenna Cup isn't a worry for me at all, but Derry need to hit the ground running in the league if they want to get out of Divison 3.

On a side note, has anyone heard the reason for him leaving out Danny Heavron? Heard Damien had rang a few of the boys who were on the panel last year but not this year with his reasons for not including them but Heavron hasn't been contacted at all?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on December 04, 2017, 10:22:49 AM
Would be really disappointed if Danny Heavron was not on this  year's Derry panel.He was our best   and most consistent player by a country mile over the last few years.As a fellow club man one would think that  it would be highly unlikely if Damian McErlain did not contact Danny but Toby seems to be adamant that he did not.

For whatever reason it is imperative that all of our best players are available in order to move Derry forward into Division Two and make them more competitive in the championship.Leaders on the field are required and Heavron is one of the best in that regard as well as being a really talented player.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on December 04, 2017, 02:39:22 PM
Would be really disappointed if Danny Heavron was not on this  year's Derry panel.He was our best   and most consistent player by a country mile over the last few years.As a fellow club man one would think that  it would be highly unlikely if Damian McErlain did not contact Danny but Toby seems to be adamant that he did not.

For whatever reason it is imperative that all of our best players are available in order to move Derry forward into Division Two and make them more competitive in the championship.Leaders on the field are required and Heavron is one of the best in that regard as well as being a really talented player.
Was up at the Derry minor trials a few weeks ago and saw Damien McErlain ,Danny Heavron Niall Keenan &Ciaran McFaul amongst others l leaving the building, I could be Wong but I  assume it was a weights session they were just after completing
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on December 04, 2017, 04:29:42 PM
Thanks "Newbridge Exile" for that encouraging news  re Danny Heavron and the composition of the Derry panel.

Anyhow if one were to go by Damian McErlain's track record in this regard the announcement of the 2018 panel should appear shortly on the official Derry GAA website.

That would bring clarity to all Derry supporters and end unfounded speculation as we would all then know who is on the panel and who is not.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on December 05, 2017, 07:18:12 AM
Thanks "Newbridge Exile" for that encouraging news  re Danny Heavron and the composition of the Derry panel.

Anyhow if one were to go by Damian McErlain's track record in this regard the announcement of the 2018 panel should appear shortly on the official Derry GAA website.

That would bring clarity to all Derry supporters and end unfounded speculation as we would all then know who is on the panel and who is not.
Unfortunately the back page of Irish news says different today  with Danny and Emmett McGuckin not included, can't understand the reasoning to be honest ,six from  Slaughtneil called into panel  with Paul McNeill being the new face amongst them.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on December 05, 2017, 08:09:58 AM
“A huge boost” is how Derry senior football manager Damian McErlain has described Mark Lynch’s decision to commit to his panel for 2018.

“To be honest, his decision was immediate. He wanted in and we’re delighted about that,” McErlain told DerryGAA.ie. “He’s a central figure for us, a presence and a real leader to have around the panel,” he said of the 31-year-old Banagher man.

McErlain has named a 29-man senior panel with an average age of 24 for the upcoming season, a season which begins with the McKenna Cup on Wednesday 3 January.

With a number of the Derry panel playing with their universities, the new management will use the competition to run their eye over potential senior players of the future. With the U20 championship set to begin in June, new rules mean that any U20 players listed on a senior championship teamsheet will be ruled out for their own age group’s equivalent. However, U20 players are free to play in other competitions such as the national league or McKenna Cup as required.

“We’ll be utilising many of the u20 panel for those McKenna Cup games for sure,” explains McErlain.

“That would have been our approach from the start. The county is bursting with young talent and the door is always open. Others have used that approach in the past and we think it’s a good balance. We can mix some experience with youth.”

Players who won’t be lining out in red and white for Derry’s group games in January are Emmett Bradley and Niall Keenan (with QUB), Terence O’Brien and Danny Tallon (with UU), and Niall Toner (St Mary’s) – all expected to feature for their respective college teams.

“Co-operation with the colleges has been excellent in fairness,” claims McErlain of the panel’s overall preparation during the off-season.

One man who is expected to feature in the Oak Leaf line-up will be Sigerson Cup winner, Ruairi Mooney. The Eoghan Rua man was part of Paddy Tally’s heroic winning St Mary’s team earlier this year and comes into the senior panel for first time. He is joined by would-be senior debutants Oran Hartin (among the 2017 minor goalkeepers), Faughanvale’s Jordan Curran and Slaughtneil’s Paul McNeill.

McNeill is part of the Emmet’s contingent whose involvement in the latter stages of the All-Ireland club championships in hurling and football rules them out of competitive county action for the coming months. However, McErlain sees the situation as a challenge to be welcomed.

“Those lads have earned their shot at their All-Ireland. They’ve been inspirational over the past few years and we’ll support them 100%. That winning attitude tends to rub off on others when the conditions are right and that’s something we’ll be seeking to tap into down the line. For now, it’s certainly a challenge but it’s a great opportunity for others to grab their place. Competition is what we want,” he explains.

The departure of Niall Loughlin to Australia has been a dent to McErlain’s forward options but it’s one that he feels can be overcome.

“Niall has been in great form for club and county this past few years. He has really developed into a fine player. Unfortunately he had this trip booked well in advance. He’s a lad who keeps himself in good shape so we’ll look forward to welcoming him back at some stage down the line, sooner rather than later, we hope.”

Lavey’s Niall Toner is one forward option who returns from an injury which saw him miss all intercounty and most interclub games in 2017.

Emmett Bradley, Michael Bateson, Kevin Johnston, Terence O’Brien and Liam McGoldrick are all returning players that have sampled Ulster championship action and will be welcome additions to the Oak Leaf options for the division three campaign and championship ahead.

“That’s obviously our immediate target, to be competitive in that league,” says McErlain

“We’ve assembled a fresh new panel. We’ve been delighted with the reaction of the players and the support we’ve received so far. Energy levels are high and that’s what we want. 2018 is just around the corner and we can’t wait to get going,” he concludes.

Derry Senior Football Panel 2018: Michael Bateson (Newbridge), Emmett Bradley (Glen), Padraig Cassidy (Slaughtneil), Jack Doherty (Glen), Jordan Curran (Faughanvale), Peter Hagan (Banagher), Oran Hartin (Limavady), Benny Heron (Ballinascreen), Kevin Johnston (Dungiven), Patrick Kearney (Swatragh), Niall Keenan (Castledawson), James Kielt (Kilrea), Mark Lynch (Banagher), Enda Lynn (Greenlough), Conor McAtamney (Swatragh), Michael McEvoy (Magherafelt), Ciaran McFaul (Glen), Liam McGoldrick (Coleraine), Shane McGuigan (Slaughtneil), Chrissy McKaigue (Slaughtneil), Karl McKaigue (Slaughtneil), Ben McKinless (Ballinderry), Paul McNeill (Slaughtneil), Carlus McWilliams (Ballinascreen), Ruairi Mooney (Coleraine), Terence O’Brien (Loup), Brendan Rogers (Slaughtneil), Danny Tallon (Glen), Niall Toner (Lavey).
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 09:16:11 AM
Decent panel. Couple of fresh faces which is good to see. They probably need another goalkeeper. Thought McMullan might have got called up. He's been good this past few seasons. Something has to be up with Danny Heavron and/or the management as he is possibly our best player and is perfectly suited to the way the game is played now. Loughlin being away is a big miss also.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on December 05, 2017, 09:54:04 AM
Decent panel. Couple of fresh faces which is good to see. They probably need another goalkeeper. Thought McMullan might have got called up. He's been good this past few seasons. Something has to be up with Danny Heavron and/or the management as he is possibly our best player and is perfectly suited to the way the game is played now. Loughlin being away is a big miss also.


Personally I don't think it is a decent panel at all, especially giving that the slaughtneil men could potentially be missing until March. I honestly don't think we will see much progress this year. Far far too many bang average players.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 11:22:09 AM
It's a very positive squad IMO. I don't see any mediocre players and it certainly looks more positive than previous management's who had players who wouldn't have made a top club side in Derry. I'm surprised Mark Lynch and James Kielt are back but I must say the rest look youthful and energetic
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on December 05, 2017, 11:33:55 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on December 05, 2017, 11:54:29 AM
It's a very positive squad IMO. I don't see any mediocre players and it certainly looks more positive than previous management's who had players who wouldn't have made a top club side in Derry. I'm surprised Mark Lynch and James Kielt are back but I must say the rest look youthful and energetic

No mediocre players? Come on, lets be honest
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 11:55:34 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 12:03:43 PM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 12:18:51 PM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.
Fair enough. I would expect there to be more from South Derry but that is probably a slightly higher than usual amount. Was there a perception that there had been biased opinions when selecting the squad previously?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on December 05, 2017, 12:18:58 PM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on December 05, 2017, 12:32:15 PM
First of all the good news about the Derry panel for 2018 is,as was flagged sometime ago, that Liam McGoldrick,Emmett Bradley,Terence O'Brien,Michael Bateson and Kevin Johnston are back.All are talented individuals who will add skill,pace and leadership qualities to the team.All will either be on the starting 15 or at least the match day squad and likely to enter the fray at some stage.Similarly one must applaud management in their selection of many young capable players as well.

What is most disappointing, however, is the  absence of many others including six men that one would have expected to be selected.For whatever reason and we do not know why( with the exception of Niall Loughlin who has gone travelling) six other key  players are missing from the panel.Danny Heavron,Sean Leo McGoldrick,Garth McKinless,Ryan Bell,Niall Holly and Emmett McGuckin are not picked. Heavron.Loughlin and McGoldrick would have been certain starters and the others would have at least been on the match day squad.

So it would appear to be a permanent feature of present day inter county teams that are not in the mix for provincial or All Ireland honours that many talented individuals drop out,are injured,not available or are not selected by management.With the exception of Niall Loughlin we do not know which category the other currently "missing " Derry players belong.

Be that as it may we  are where we are. We in Derry have a tendency of blaming managers for all the ills of the County team. Damian Barton was particularly badly treated in this regard as was Fergal P McCusker.Let us not add Damian McErlain to that roll call and get behind him and the new panel at once.We must hope that the spirit of the players that was so evident in Castlebar  against All Ireland finalists  Mayo last July will continue to inspire a new generation of Derry players.It is just so ironic that two of the stars of that game- Danny Heavron and Ryan Bell- are no longer on the panel.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 12:32:38 PM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on December 05, 2017, 12:45:38 PM
First of all the good news about the Derry panel for 2018 is,as was flagged sometime ago, that Liam McGoldrick,Emmett Bradley,Terence O'Brien,Michael Bateson and Kevin Johnston are back.All are talented individuals who will add skill,pace and leadership qualities to the team.All will either be on the starting 15 or at least the match day squad and likely to enter the fray at some stage.Similarly one must applaud management in their selection of many young capable players as well.

What is most disappointing, however, is the  absence of many others including six men that one would have expected to be selected.For whatever reason and we do not know why( with the exception of Niall Loughlin who has gone travelling) six other key  players are missing from the panel.Danny Heavron,Sean Leo McGoldrick,Garth McKinless,Ryan Bell,Niall Holly and Emmett McGuckin are not picked. Heavron.Loughlin and McGoldrick would have been certain starters and the others would have at least been on the match day squad.

So it would appear to be a permanent feature of present day inter county teams that are not in the mix for provincial or All Ireland honours that many talented individuals drop out,are injured,not available or are not selected by management.With the exception of Niall Loughlin we do not know which category the other currently "missing " Derry players belong.

Be that as it may we  are where we are. We in Derry have a tendency of blaming managers for all the ills of the County team. Damian Barton was particularly badly treated in this regard as was Fergal P McCusker.Let us not add Damian McErlain to that roll call and get behind him and the new panel at once.We must hope that the spirit of the players that was so evident in Castlebar  against All Ireland finalists  Mayo last July will continue to inspire a new generation of Derry players.It is just so ironic that two of the stars of that game- Danny Heavron and Ryan Bell- are no longer on the panel.

Neither player were asked to be part of this years panel.

When Derry gave Mayo the scare of their lives last summer in Castlebar Derry scored 1-13. Niall loughlin 0-6, Ryan Bell 0-3 and Danny Heavron 0-1.

In my eyes Derry do not have many forwards on that panel capable of kicking a few scores from play vs. top inter county sides. Ryan Bell kicked 0-3 from play against all Ireland finalists and we all know how Heavron has performed this past few years for Derry. To leave them both out is Ludacris, especially when we are where we are as a county and some of the replacements wouldn't be fit to lace these fellas boots.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 12:48:51 PM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 12:50:15 PM
First of all the good news about the Derry panel for 2018 is,as was flagged sometime ago, that Liam McGoldrick,Emmett Bradley,Terence O'Brien,Michael Bateson and Kevin Johnston are back.All are talented individuals who will add skill,pace and leadership qualities to the team.All will either be on the starting 15 or at least the match day squad and likely to enter the fray at some stage.Similarly one must applaud management in their selection of many young capable players as well.

What is most disappointing, however, is the  absence of many others including six men that one would have expected to be selected.For whatever reason and we do not know why( with the exception of Niall Loughlin who has gone travelling) six other key  players are missing from the panel.Danny Heavron,Sean Leo McGoldrick,Garth McKinless,Ryan Bell,Niall Holly and Emmett McGuckin are not picked. Heavron.Loughlin and McGoldrick would have been certain starters and the others would have at least been on the match day squad.

So it would appear to be a permanent feature of present day inter county teams that are not in the mix for provincial or All Ireland honours that many talented individuals drop out,are injured,not available or are not selected by management.With the exception of Niall Loughlin we do not know which category the other currently "missing " Derry players belong.

Be that as it may we  are where we are. We in Derry have a tendency of blaming managers for all the ills of the County team. Damian Barton was particularly badly treated in this regard as was Fergal P McCusker.Let us not add Damian McErlain to that roll call and get behind him and the new panel at once.We must hope that the spirit of the players that was so evident in Castlebar  against All Ireland finalists  Mayo last July will continue to inspire a new generation of Derry players.It is just so ironic that two of the stars of that game- Danny Heavron and Ryan Bell- are no longer on the panel.

Neither player were asked to be part of this years panel.

When Derry gave Mayo the scare of their lives last summer in Castlebar Derry scored 1-13. Niall loughlin 0-6, Ryan Bell 0-3 and Danny Heavron 0-1.

In my eyes Derry do not have many forwards on that panel capable of kicking a few scores from play vs. top inter county sides. Ryan Bell kicked 0-3 from play against all Ireland finalists and we all know how Heavron has performed this past few years for Derry. To leave them both out is Ludacris, especially when we are where we are as a county and some of the replacements wouldn't be fit to lace these fellas boots.
Crazy and a big mistake if true
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Josey Wales on December 05, 2017, 08:42:52 PM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.
I've been hearing the exact same comments for the past 30 years and nothing has changed.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 06, 2017, 12:02:50 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 06, 2017, 12:08:38 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.

Sorry I mean 2002s
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on December 06, 2017, 12:22:19 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.
I've been hearing the exact same comments for the past 30 years and nothing has changed.
Explain please how nothing has changed?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on December 06, 2017, 12:25:14 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.
Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 06, 2017, 12:50:35 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.
Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.

I take it you dint know city too well. Steelstown is in shantallow(although they'd like not to be). Culmore is not in shantallow. Anyhow sure they suck the poor wee Ardmores of this world to death whether by design or otherwise. How many steelstown players pass clubs closer to them?. They have 35 of a panel at most ages and don't make many subs. It only deprives lads an opportunity. Plenty to go around. They let? Wise up its not a nazi state we run. I speaketh no Cac good sir.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on December 06, 2017, 08:05:39 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.
Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.

I take it you dint know city too well. Steelstown is in shantallow(although they'd like not to be). Culmore is not in shantallow. Anyhow sure they suck the poor wee Ardmores of this world to death whether by design or otherwise. How many steelstown players pass clubs closer to them?. They have 35 of a panel at most ages and don't make many subs. It only deprives lads an opportunity. Plenty to go around. They let? Wise up its not a nazi state we run. I speaketh no Cac good sir.
More cac. If anything, Steelstown is in Ballyarnett, just below the village of Steelstown. Many of their players are from the Culmore area and Hollybush PS is one of their feeder schools. Ask Paddy the next time you see him. Some of your rant above is not only inaccurate but ridiculous. Jealousy maybe, as Steelstown is one of the best run clubs in the city. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 06, 2017, 09:52:35 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.
Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.

I take it you dint know city too well. Steelstown is in shantallow(although they'd like not to be). Culmore is not in shantallow. Anyhow sure they suck the poor wee Ardmores of this world to death whether by design or otherwise. How many steelstown players pass clubs closer to them?. They have 35 of a panel at most ages and don't make many subs. It only deprives lads an opportunity. Plenty to go around. They let? Wise up its not a nazi state we run. I speaketh no Cac good sir.
More cac. If anything, Steelstown is in Ballyarnett, just below the village of Steelstown. Many of their players are from the Culmore area and Hollybush PS is one of their feeder schools. Ask Paddy the next time you see him. Some of your rant above is not only inaccurate but ridiculous. Jealousy maybe, as Steelstown is one of the best run clubs in the city.

Ballyarnett or Steelstown aren't in Culmore either.
The pitch is 100 yards from Shanty Estate through the tunnel to Old School Lane and Liscloon/Carranbane Walk . Its less than that to Cornshell/Earhart. Why would I ask Paddy i'm a born and bred Shanty man. Paddy is from Glenswilly and lives in Waterside lol! Sweet Jesus. Steelstown are one of the best clubs in county never mind city, but they should be as they take their players from all around the city and beyond unlike the smaller clubs. I didn't at any time say they aren't a good club. All I said is that the county are keen to see them succeed as they will never win another All Ireland unless they grow these areas.

For your information also the story in the Derry News/Journal from Steelstown about their efforts to stop Culmore went down very very badly amongst the vast majority of people in the city. As for the school thing, its the kettle and the pot!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on December 06, 2017, 10:02:39 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.
Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.

I take it you dint know city too well. Steelstown is in shantallow(although they'd like not to be). Culmore is not in shantallow. Anyhow sure they suck the poor wee Ardmores of this world to death whether by design or otherwise. How many steelstown players pass clubs closer to them?. They have 35 of a panel at most ages and don't make many subs. It only deprives lads an opportunity. Plenty to go around. They let? Wise up its not a nazi state we run. I speaketh no Cac good sir.
More cac. If anything, Steelstown is in Ballyarnett, just below the village of Steelstown. Many of their players are from the Culmore area and Hollybush PS is one of their feeder schools. Ask Paddy the next time you see him. Some of your rant above is not only inaccurate but ridiculous. Jealousy maybe, as Steelstown is one of the best run clubs in the city.

Fear is correct. Steelstown is in Shantallow, Steelstown Village and Ballyarnett are very small areas in the edge of Shantallow. Steelstown has a huge catchment area, all the Greater Shantallow area, Gallaigh, Carn Hill, Skeoge etc which are now being more tapped into with Culmore coming on the scene. It's a win win for greater Shantallow and Culmore in a footballing sense. Steelstown are a super club, but there's a lot of players not getting game time because of huge numbers.
You are correct in saying Hollybush is a feeder school, but that will inevitably change when the new Culmore pitch (due to be based not far for the primary school on the grounds of the new Culmore Park) opens in the coming years. I've a clatter of nieces and nephews who go to Hollybush, all play underage, but none for Steelstown, as is the way in the Derry City and its surrounding areas ie no parish boundaries. Culmore is a parish, and most gaels in the area wish them nothing but the best.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 06, 2017, 11:21:29 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.
Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.
I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.
Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.
I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.
Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.

I take it you dint know city too well. Steelstown is in shantallow(although they'd like not to be). Culmore is not in shantallow. Anyhow sure they suck the poor wee Ardmores of this world to death whether by design or otherwise. How many steelstown players pass clubs closer to them?. They have 35 of a panel at most ages and don't make many subs. It only deprives lads an opportunity. Plenty to go around. They let? Wise up its not a nazi state we run. I speaketh no Cac good sir.
More cac. If anything, Steelstown is in Ballyarnett, just below the village of Steelstown. Many of their players are from the Culmore area and Hollybush PS is one of their feeder schools. Ask Paddy the next time you see him. Some of your rant above is not only inaccurate but ridiculous. Jealousy maybe, as Steelstown is one of the best run clubs in the city.

Fear is correct. Steelstown is in Shantallow, Steelstown Village and Ballyarnett are very small areas in the edge of Shantallow. Steelstown has a huge catchment area, all the Greater Shantallow area, Gallaigh, Carn Hill, Skeoge etc which are now being more tapped into with Culmore coming on the scene. It's a win win for greater Shantallow and Culmore in a footballing sense. Steelstown are a super club, but there's a lot of players not getting game time because of huge numbers.
You are correct in saying Hollybush is a feeder school, but that will inevitably change when the new Culmore pitch (due to be based not far for the primary school on the grounds of the new Culmore Park) opens in the coming years. I've a clatter of nieces and nephews who go to Hollybush, all play underage, but none for Steelstown, as is the way in the Derry City and its surrounding areas ie no parish boundaries. Culmore is a parish, and most gaels in the area wish them nothing but the best.

Definitely a win win.  A confident club should welcome Culmore . Any person with foresight and strategic insight would know that this would strengthen everyone in the long run. Rising tide lifts all ships.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on December 06, 2017, 11:46:17 AM
As Damian McErlain will have only 19 players to select from his new  Derry panel for the McKenna Cup (owing to the unavailability of the six Slaughtneil panellists and the four college-tied players) he has said that it is inevitable he will have to call up many from the U20 County panel.

 In order to coordinate preparations between the two managers I presume that the  latter panel will be announced shortly by manager Paddy Campbell.One would also expect minor manager Mickey Donnelly to officially announce his backroom team.

I think that it is vitally important that all activities between the three groups are working in tandem both with each other and the Director of Football.Only in that manner can Derry football move forward in a progressive manner ie right through from the Development squads to the Senior team.

The same strength and conditioning strategies,the same tactical awareness and an identical playing system should be paramount in each team grouping.


In this modern communication age where fake news and social media misinformation can lead to unnecessary innuendo and nasty insinuation it is vital that all important  team information is released by the County Board in good time  so that genuine supporters can see the extent of how much good work is going on behind the scenes to progress Derry Gaelic football and hurling teams.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 06, 2017, 12:25:06 PM
youre either a WUM, a civil servant, or a politician, but im fcuked if I can be arsed finding out
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on December 06, 2017, 03:12:39 PM
Club underage is staying at U12, 14, 16, 18 for the coming season.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on December 06, 2017, 04:46:11 PM
“A huge boost” is how Derry senior football manager Damian McErlain has described Mark Lynch’s decision to commit to his panel for 2018.

“To be honest, his decision was immediate. He wanted in and we’re delighted about that,” McErlain told DerryGAA.ie. “He’s a central figure for us, a presence and a real leader to have around the panel,” he said of the 31-year-old Banagher man.

McErlain has named a 29-man senior panel with an average age of 24 for the upcoming season, a season which begins with the McKenna Cup on Wednesday 3 January.

With a number of the Derry panel playing with their universities, the new management will use the competition to run their eye over potential senior players of the future. With the U20 championship set to begin in June, new rules mean that any U20 players listed on a senior championship teamsheet will be ruled out for their own age group’s equivalent. However, U20 players are free to play in other competitions such as the national league or McKenna Cup as required.

“We’ll be utilising many of the u20 panel for those McKenna Cup games for sure,” explains McErlain.

“That would have been our approach from the start. The county is bursting with young talent and the door is always open. Others have used that approach in the past and we think it’s a good balance. We can mix some experience with youth.”

Players who won’t be lining out in red and white for Derry’s group games in January are Emmett Bradley and Niall Keenan (with QUB), Terence O’Brien and Danny Tallon (with UU), and Niall Toner (St Mary’s) – all expected to feature for their respective college teams.

“Co-operation with the colleges has been excellent in fairness,” claims McErlain of the panel’s overall preparation during the off-season.

One man who is expected to feature in the Oak Leaf line-up will be Sigerson Cup winner, Ruairi Mooney. The Eoghan Rua man was part of Paddy Tally’s heroic winning St Mary’s team earlier this year and comes into the senior panel for first time. He is joined by would-be senior debutants Oran Hartin (among the 2017 minor goalkeepers), Faughanvale’s Jordan Curran and Slaughtneil’s Paul McNeill.

McNeill is part of the Emmet’s contingent whose involvement in the latter stages of the All-Ireland club championships in hurling and football rules them out of competitive county action for the coming months. However, McErlain sees the situation as a challenge to be welcomed.

“Those lads have earned their shot at their All-Ireland. They’ve been inspirational over the past few years and we’ll support them 100%. That winning attitude tends to rub off on others when the conditions are right and that’s something we’ll be seeking to tap into down the line. For now, it’s certainly a challenge but it’s a great opportunity for others to grab their place. Competition is what we want,” he explains.

The departure of Niall Loughlin to Australia has been a dent to McErlain’s forward options but it’s one that he feels can be overcome.

“Niall has been in great form for club and county this past few years. He has really developed into a fine player. Unfortunately he had this trip booked well in advance. He’s a lad who keeps himself in good shape so we’ll look forward to welcoming him back at some stage down the line, sooner rather than later, we hope.”

Lavey’s Niall Toner is one forward option who returns from an injury which saw him miss all intercounty and most interclub games in 2017.

Emmett Bradley, Michael Bateson, Kevin Johnston, Terence O’Brien and Liam McGoldrick are all returning players that have sampled Ulster championship action and will be welcome additions to the Oak Leaf options for the division three campaign and championship ahead.

“That’s obviously our immediate target, to be competitive in that league,” says McErlain

“We’ve assembled a fresh new panel. We’ve been delighted with the reaction of the players and the support we’ve received so far. Energy levels are high and that’s what we want. 2018 is just around the corner and we can’t wait to get going,” he concludes.

Derry Senior Football Panel 2018: Michael Bateson (Newbridge), Emmett Bradley (Glen), Padraig Cassidy (Slaughtneil), Jack Doherty (Glen), Jordan Curran (Faughanvale), Peter Hagan (Banagher), Oran Hartin (Limavady), Benny Heron (Ballinascreen), Kevin Johnston (Dungiven), Patrick Kearney (Swatragh), Niall Keenan (Castledawson), James Kielt (Kilrea), Mark Lynch (Banagher), Enda Lynn (Greenlough), Conor McAtamney (Swatragh), Michael McEvoy (Magherafelt), Ciaran McFaul (Glen), Liam McGoldrick (Coleraine), Shane McGuigan (Slaughtneil), Chrissy McKaigue (Slaughtneil), Karl McKaigue (Slaughtneil), Ben McKinless (Ballinderry), Paul McNeill (Slaughtneil), Carlus McWilliams (Ballinascreen), Ruairi Mooney (Coleraine), Terence O’Brien (Loup), Brendan Rogers (Slaughtneil), Danny Tallon (Glen), Niall Toner (Lavey).
I hope Mark Lynch is given time to loose some weight and get into good physical condition to perform at County level .... he has a terrific desire and determination and is an absolutely perfect team player.  That said he has a lot of miles on the clock but he could still make an impact as a 'last20min' substitution .... his over all skill level has been unsurpassed in Derry.

Someone one has called this a mediocre panel ... we're in Div 3 for a reason and the Manager makes his choice on his best players ... and some of them have decided County football is not for them ..... that is not a crime ... its an amateur sport.  Lets be realistic we don't have a lot of top quality players and we have to support those that have made the commitment .... one or two of them i'd say will not stand the test but that power for the course both at Club and County level all over the Country ... but we must always support the efforts of our County players and Management
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on December 06, 2017, 05:11:16 PM
Fear, I’m surprised at many of your comments there.

The one about not wanting to be from Shanty is disgusting.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shantygael on December 06, 2017, 07:27:07 PM
Tickle,are your gaa jerseys still smelling in the wash😀
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 06, 2017, 07:50:43 PM
Fear, I’m surprised at many of your comments there.

The one about not wanting to be from Shanty is disgusting.

Tickle that's strong language.  If I hadn't a thicker skin and knew that yiu are a good lad I'd nearly be offended. All i intimated was that the club would rather be in Culmore so they could take from that area more freely. Without looking back at my comments I can't remember saying anything offensive. I stand by the veracity of all I said.  There shouldn't be anything in there that would be surprising as they are all facts in the common knowledge of city folk. My own club has closer links to your club than any other. Btw you could lists dozens of things that could be changed in my club and I'd hazard a guess to say I'd agree with you.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on December 06, 2017, 09:00:00 PM
Tickle,are your gaa jerseys still smelling in the wash😀

Na lad; I’m using a new detergent.



Fear, we’ll move on....
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on December 06, 2017, 09:06:11 PM
Fear, I’m surprised at many of your comments there.

The one about not wanting to be from Shanty is disgusting.

Tickle that's strong language.  If I hadn't a thicker skin and knew that yiu are a good lad I'd nearly be offended. All i intimated was that the club would rather be in Culmore so they could take from that area more freely. Without looking back at my comments I can't remember saying anything offensive. I stand by the veracity of all I said.  There shouldn't be anything in there that would be surprising as they are all facts in the common knowledge of city folk. My own club has closer links to your club than any other. Btw you could lists dozens of things that could be changed in my club and I'd hazard a guess to say I'd agree with you.
Tickle is 100% correct.  No point trying to pull back now. The board knows exactly what you were intimating, as does Tickle.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 06, 2017, 09:35:14 PM
Fear, I’m surprised at many of your comments there.

The one about not wanting to be from Shanty is disgusting.

Tickle that's strong language.  If I hadn't a thicker skin and knew that yiu are a good lad I'd nearly be offended. All i intimated was that the club would rather be in Culmore so they could take from that area more freely. Without looking back at my comments I can't remember saying anything offensive. I stand by the veracity of all I said.  There shouldn't be anything in there that would be surprising as they are all facts in the common knowledge of city folk. My own club has closer links to your club than any other. Btw you could lists dozens of things that could be changed in my club and I'd hazard a guess to say I'd agree with you.
Tickle is 100% correct.  No point trying to pull back now. The board knows exactly what you were intimating, as does Tickle.

The board? Sounds scary. Lmfao. Tickle can speak for himself Mr Ballyarnett.  Bit like I'm from High Park not creggan.  That's a city joke. Tickle will get it. You won't.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 06, 2017, 09:37:56 PM
Tickle,are your gaa jerseys still smelling in the wash😀

Na lad; I’m using a new detergent.



Fear, we’ll move on....

I think it's best. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on December 06, 2017, 09:48:52 PM
Fear, I’m surprised at many of your comments there.

The one about not wanting to be from Shanty is disgusting.

Tickle that's strong language.  If I hadn't a thicker skin and knew that yiu are a good lad I'd nearly be offended. All i intimated was that the club would rather be in Culmore so they could take from that area more freely. Without looking back at my comments I can't remember saying anything offensive. I stand by the veracity of all I said.  There shouldn't be anything in there that would be surprising as they are all facts in the common knowledge of city folk. My own club has closer links to your club than any other. Btw you could lists dozens of things that could be changed in my club and I'd hazard a guess to say I'd agree with you.
Tickle is 100% correct.  No point trying to pull back now. The board knows exactly what you were intimating, as does Tickle.

The board? Sounds scary. Lmfao. Tickle can speak for himself Mr Ballyarnett.  Bit like I'm from High Park not creggan.  That's a city joke. Tickle will get it. You won't.
Your rant is there for all the board to read and you were not joking.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 06, 2017, 09:59:50 PM
 :'Most of ballinderry on strike? Possible 2nd best team in the county; just 1 man on the panel; whats the score with the magherafelt men? Mark Craig,?  No sean Leo or Colm ( that the big full forward) McGoldrick; still way off been the stronger available pick in the county; Slaughtneil men aside! How was it only Eamon Coleman got the strongest/ best players in the county out for him; even C McNally who played for no-one else theres enough good players in the county without having to resort to U-20 players
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on December 06, 2017, 10:08:07 PM
Why, because he agreed with county board that he would go with a 26 man panel, a massive cost cutting excerise.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on December 07, 2017, 08:25:39 AM
:'Most of ballinderry on strike? Possible 2nd best team in the county; just 1 man on the panel; whats the score with the magherafelt men? Mark Craig,?  No sean Leo or Colm ( that the big full forward) McGoldrick; still way off been the stronger available pick in the county; Slaughtneil men aside! How was it only Eamon Coleman got the strongest/ best players in the county out for him; even C McNally who played for no-one else theres enough good players in the county without having to resort to U-20 players

Completely agree, taking the Slaughtneil men out the panel is as weak as I've seen it. Mckinless and Ryan Bell from Ballinderry not asked. Heavron and McGuckin not asked, McGuckin got a phonecall from management to explain why he wasn't asked up.

Can't believe a few men said it isn't a mediocre panel, some absolutely bog standard club players on it.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on December 07, 2017, 09:27:00 AM
Why, because he agreed with county board that he would go with a 26 man panel, a massive cost cutting excerise.
I'm sure the county board will be pretty upset that he added those 3 extra players ;)
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on December 07, 2017, 10:29:15 PM
There is neither the will no the money in Derry to properly fund a Senior County Football Squad ...  by that I mean there isn't sufficient desire to acquire the financial support and it is not any easy task when your in Div3 and not likely to feature in an Ulster Final ..... its your regular 'chicken & egg' scenario
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Orchard park on December 12, 2017, 09:04:04 AM
How did Anton Tohill  not play Derry minor but make the Aussie rules cut ??
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on December 12, 2017, 10:01:58 AM
How did Anton Tohill  not play Derry minor but make the Aussie rules cut ??

He isn't a terribly gifted footballer. Probably more suited to Aussie Rules I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on December 12, 2017, 03:28:33 PM
How did Anton Tohill  not play Derry minor but make the Aussie rules cut ??

He isn't a terribly gifted footballer. Probably more suited to Aussie Rules I'd imagine.
silly comment about a player you obviously haven't a clue about. Having seen him regularly this year I also don't know how he didn't make the derry minor panel because he should have. A very honest and driven lad who has made a massive improvement in the last 2/3 years
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on December 12, 2017, 05:04:24 PM
How did Anton Tohill  not play Derry minor but make the Aussie rules cut ??

He isn't a terribly gifted footballer. Probably more suited to Aussie Rules I'd imagine.
silly comment about a player you obviously haven't a clue about. Having seen him regularly this year I also don't know how he didn't make the derry minor panel because he should have. A very honest and driven lad who has made a massive improvement in the last 2/3 years

Have seen him play a right bit. Honest and driven, yes. Athletic, Yes. Great fielder, yes. A natural footballer, I'm not so sure.

I would say he's similar to Niall McKeever who went to Aussie rules. Not a great footballer by any stretch of the imagination but tall, athletic and great in the air.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on December 12, 2017, 07:56:04 PM
How did Anton Tohill  not play Derry minor but make the Aussie rules cut ??

He isn't a terribly gifted footballer. Probably more suited to Aussie Rules I'd imagine.
silly comment about a player you obviously haven't a clue about. Having seen him regularly this year I also don't know how he didn't make the derry minor panel because he should have. A very honest and driven lad who has made a massive improvement in the last 2/3 years

Have seen him play a right bit. Honest and driven, yes. Athletic, Yes. Great fielder, yes. A natural footballer, I'm not so sure.

I would say he's similar to Niall McKeever who went to Aussie rules. Not a great footballer by any stretch of the imagination but tall, athletic and great in the air.

In a team where the term " Team" means every thing then I'm quite sure there is ample room for Anton to play an important part.  The Dublin squad would have a few of those fellows ....
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on December 13, 2017, 08:21:04 AM
How did Anton Tohill  not play Derry minor but make the Aussie rules cut ??

He isn't a terribly gifted footballer. Probably more suited to Aussie Rules I'd imagine.
silly comment about a player you obviously haven't a clue about. Having seen him regularly this year I also don't know how he didn't make the derry minor panel because he should have. A very honest and driven lad who has made a massive improvement in the last 2/3 years

Have seen him play a right bit. Honest and driven, yes. Athletic, Yes. Great fielder, yes. A natural footballer, I'm not so sure.

I would say he's similar to Niall McKeever who went to Aussie rules. Not a great footballer by any stretch of the imagination but tall, athletic and great in the air.

In a team where the term " Team" means every thing then I'm quite sure there is ample room for Anton to play an important part.  The Dublin squad would have a few of those fellows ....

Personally, I don't think he was good enough. That's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on December 13, 2017, 10:26:02 AM
How did Anton Tohill  not play Derry minor but make the Aussie rules cut ??

He isn't a terribly gifted footballer. Probably more suited to Aussie Rules I'd imagine.
silly comment about a player you obviously haven't a clue about. Having seen him regularly this year I also don't know how he didn't make the derry minor panel because he should have. A very honest and driven lad who has made a massive improvement in the last 2/3 years

Have seen him play a right bit. Honest and driven, yes. Athletic, Yes. Great fielder, yes. A natural footballer, I'm not so sure.

I would say he's similar to Niall McKeever who went to Aussie rules. Not a great footballer by any stretch of the imagination but tall, athletic and great in the air.

In a team where the term " Team" means every thing then I'm quite sure there is ample room for Anton to play an important part.  The Dublin squad would have a few of those fellows ....

Personally, I don't think he was good enough. That's just my opinion.f
What you mean is,you're making it up as you go along. What cub are you from so you can see Anton Tohill often enough to make a judgement call? Personally,from what I've seen,he could easily of fitted seamlessly on the Derry minor Team
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on December 13, 2017, 10:50:58 AM
There are several factors involved in both the   the physical and  all-round skilful development of any growing teenage athlete.

Depending on the  speed and coordination of their growth many do not fully attain  their fully mature skill set until their late teens,particularly if their height shoots up quickly.

One such outstanding Gaelic footballer,in the 1980's, who epitomised those characteristics was one Anthony Tohill who went on to be one of Derry's greatest-ever players.

From what I hear his son Anton is progressing rapidly in the same manner.Let us all wish him all the best in his future endeavours whether that is in Australia or Ireland.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on December 13, 2017, 11:13:52 AM
How did Anton Tohill  not play Derry minor but make the Aussie rules cut ??

He isn't a terribly gifted footballer. Probably more suited to Aussie Rules I'd imagine.
silly comment about a player you obviously haven't a clue about. Having seen him regularly this year I also don't know how he didn't make the derry minor panel because he should have. A very honest and driven lad who has made a massive improvement in the last 2/3 years

Have seen him play a right bit. Honest and driven, yes. Athletic, Yes. Great fielder, yes. A natural footballer, I'm not so sure.

I would say he's similar to Niall McKeever who went to Aussie rules. Not a great footballer by any stretch of the imagination but tall, athletic and great in the air.

In a team where the term " Team" means every thing then I'm quite sure there is ample room for Anton to play an important part.  The Dublin squad would have a few of those fellows ....

Personally, I don't think he was good enough. That's just my opinion.f
What you mean is,you're making it up as you go along. What cub are you from so you can see Anton Tohill often enough to make a judgement call? Personally,from what I've seen,he could easily of fitted seamlessly on the Derry minor Team

Don't you worry about what club I'm from, I've never came on this forum to 'make stuff up' or spout lies so I'm not going to start now. We will agree to have a difference of opinion regarding whether he was good enough for the county minor squad. That's not to say he won't end up progressing and becoming a county player in the future. Players like Tony Scullion, Conor McManus & Bernard Brogan all never played county minors and turned into brilliant footballers.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on December 13, 2017, 11:43:23 AM
How did Anton Tohill  not play Derry minor but make the Aussie rules cut ??



He isn't a terribly gifted footballer. Probably more suited to Aussie Rules I'd imagine.
silly comment about a player you obviously haven't a clue about. Having seen him regularly this year I also don't know how he didn't make the derry minor panel because he should have. A very honest and driven lad who has made a massive improvement in the last 2/3 years

Have seen him play a right bit. Honest and driven, yes. Athletic, Yes. Great fielder, yes. A natural footballer, I'm not so sure.

I would say he's similar to Niall McKeever who went to Aussie rules. Not a great footballer by any stretch of the imagination but tall, athletic and great in the air.

In a team where the term " Team" means every thing then I'm quite sure there is ample room for Anton to play an important part.  The Dublin squad would have a few of those fellows ....

Personally, I don't think he was good enough. That's just my opinion.f
What you mean is,you're making it up as you go along. What cub are you from so you can see Anton Tohill often enough to make a judgement call? Personally,from what I've seen,he could easily of fitted seamlessly on the Derry minor Team

Don't you worry about what club I'm from, I've never came on this forum to 'make stuff up' or spout lies so I'm not going to start now. We will agree to have a difference of opinion regarding whether he was good enough for the county minor squad. That's not to say he won't end up progressing and becoming a county player in the future. Players like Tony Scullion, Conor McManus & Bernard Brogan all never played county minors and turned into brilliant footballers.
Did he make a Maghera School team last year or any other year? Not to the best of my knowledge (and I have made some enquiries).
This is not to say the lad isn't developing and could yet make a fine footballer but it would go some way to explaining his omission from last years minor panel.
Could we not park this debate up and let the lad develop and find his own way. There is unlikely to be another Anthony Tohill.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on December 13, 2017, 12:46:09 PM
How did Anton Tohill  not play Derry minor but make the Aussie rules cut ??



He isn't a terribly gifted footballer. Probably more suited to Aussie Rules I'd imagine.
silly comment about a player you obviously haven't a clue about. Having seen him regularly this year I also don't know how he didn't make the derry minor panel because he should have. A very honest and driven lad who has made a massive improvement in the last 2/3 years

Have seen him play a right bit. Honest and driven, yes. Athletic, Yes. Great fielder, yes. A natural footballer, I'm not so sure.

I would say he's similar to Niall McKeever who went to Aussie rules. Not a great footballer by any stretch of the imagination but tall, athletic and great in the air.

In a team where the term " Team" means every thing then I'm quite sure there is ample room for Anton to play an important part.  The Dublin squad would have a few of those fellows ....

Personally, I don't think he was good enough. That's just my opinion.f
What you mean is,you're making it up as you go along. What cub are you from so you can see Anton Tohill often enough to make a judgement call? Personally,from what I've seen,he could easily of fitted seamlessly on the Derry minor Team

Don't you worry about what club I'm from, I've never came on this forum to 'make stuff up' or spout lies so I'm not going to start now. We will agree to have a difference of opinion regarding whether he was good enough for the county minor squad. That's not to say he won't end up progressing and becoming a county player in the future. Players like Tony Scullion, Conor McManus & Bernard Brogan all never played county minors and turned into brilliant footballers.
Did he make a Maghera School team last year or any other year? Not to the best of my knowledge (and I have made some enquiries).
This is not to say the lad isn't developing and could yet make a fine footballer but it would go some way to explaining his omission from last years minor panel.
Could we not park this debate up and let the lad develop and find his own way. There is unlikely to be another Anthony Tohill.

Absolutely. Wish him all the best and if he keeps improving into a county standard footballer then I hope we are watching him for years to come.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 14, 2017, 10:02:15 PM
I dont think there be another midfielder like Anthony Tohill; he was good i have him ahead of  D O'Se; Cavanagh; McDermott; Mullins; and level with J O' Shea; never seen M O"Connell so cant compare against him:
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on December 14, 2017, 10:08:00 PM
I dont think there be another midfielder like Anthony Tohill; he was good i have him ahead of  D O'Se; Cavanagh; McDermott; Mullins; and level with J O' Shea; never seen M O"Connell so cant compare against him:
He was exceptional no doubt and McGilligan and him were a great partnership who complimented each other brilliantly, but I would  rate Dara O'Se ahead of him,
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 14, 2017, 11:54:55 PM
Dara O'Se although very good was around from 1994 on and he really only made his mark from 2000 on, Tohill had his name made in 2yrs! He was a consistant scorer and good free taker, O'Se was neither of these but he had the advantage of more tv time with Kerry easy runs to the last 8 before playing anybody decent! And probably played on a team with better players; well at least up front: Galvin of Limerick always had the beating of O'Se
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on December 15, 2017, 07:04:59 AM
We will just agree to disagree so , two of the very  best over the last  25 years.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on December 17, 2017, 06:36:27 PM
'Screen beat Errigal Ciaran 1-10 to 1-08 in the Minor Club Quarter Final. 
Semi Final v O'Donovan Rossa on Boxing Day.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on December 17, 2017, 06:58:37 PM
'Screen beat Errigal Ciaran 1-10 to 1-08 in the Minor Club Quarter Final. 
Semi Final v O'Donovan Rossa on Boxing Day.
Good victory, fair play to them.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on December 20, 2017, 01:58:16 PM
With only  two weeks to go before  Damian McErlain's  Senior managerial debut with Derry in the McKenna Cup match against UU  at Owenbeg on January 3rd, it will be very interesting to see what his starting 15 will be.

To make matters more intriguing he has to pick a side without his  contingent of six Slaughtneil players and up to seven others who have committed to the University teams.That leaves only sixteen players left from his original panel of twenty nine.Emmett Bradley,Danny Tallon,Terence O'Brien,Niall Keenan and Ben McKinless are some of those presently playing for their Universities with McKinless apparently starring in the forward line!

In the unlikely scenario that he selects established Senior players who were not in his original panel he will have to enlist at least ten players from this year's U20 panel.So  it will be a big ask initially as well as a golden opportunity for those underage players to stake a claim  to become a more permanent part of the Senior panel.After all there will only  be just over a further three weeks before Derry play in the first Round of the National League against Westmeath on January 28th.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on December 21, 2017, 11:14:43 AM
With only  two weeks to go before  Damian McErlain's  Senior managerial debut with Derry in the McKenna Cup match against UU  at Owenbeg on January 3rd, it will be very interesting to see what his starting 15 will be.

To make matters more intriguing he has to pick a side without his  contingent of six Slaughtneil players and up to seven others who have committed to the University teams.That leaves only sixteen players left from his original panel of twenty nine.Emmett Bradley,Danny Tallon,Terence O'Brien,Niall Keenan and Ben McKinless are some of those presently playing for their Universities with McKinless apparently starring in the forward line!

In the unlikely scenario that he selects established Senior players who were not in his original panel he will have to enlist at least ten players from this year's U20 panel.So  it will be a big ask initially as well as a golden opportunity for those underage players to stake a claim  to become a more permanent part of the Senior panel.After all there will only  be just over a further three weeks before Derry play in the first Round of the National League against Westmeath on January 28th.

It will be the 2nd option. He will go for youth, wont be calling back any of the senior players who have been dropped this year.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shawshank on December 21, 2017, 02:59:28 PM
Anyone care to explain why Damian Heavron has been excluded from the panel, very poor from of Mc Erlaine on this one. What has Heavron done previously with Barton last year to warrant such treatment. I am surprised there hasn't been more made of this considering the guy is one of our best players, especially as we have a seriously young panel who need all the help they can get.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 21, 2017, 04:13:21 PM
Anyone care to explain why Damian Heavron has been excluded from the panel, very poor from of Mc Erlaine on this one. What has Heavron done previously with Barton last year to warrant such treatment. I am surprised there hasn't been more made of this considering the guy is one of our best players, especially as we have a seriously young panel who need all the help they can get.

whos he ? Anything to Danny ?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: DERRYSFINEST on December 21, 2017, 04:13:43 PM
Anyone care to explain why Damian Heavron has been excluded from the panel, very poor from of Mc Erlaine on this one. What has Heavron done previously with Barton last year to warrant such treatment. I am surprised there hasn't been more made of this considering the guy is one of our best players, especially as we have a seriously young panel who need all the help they can get.

And Ryan Bell also??
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on December 21, 2017, 06:18:27 PM
Anyone care to explain why Damian Heavron has been excluded from the panel, very poor from of Mc Erlaine on this one. What has Heavron done previously with Barton last year to warrant such treatment. I am surprised there hasn't been more made of this considering the guy is one of our best players, especially as we have a seriously young panel who need all the help they can get.

On the surface it's a bizarre omission but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. We'll have to see how Derry progress through the season and I'd say Damien has a gameplan in mind for the players he's picked. As a Rossa man I've mixed feelings but it should make us stronger having Danny and Emmett available all year and having a point to prove.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on December 21, 2017, 08:23:21 PM
Anyone care to explain why Damian Heavron has been excluded from the panel, very poor from of Mc Erlaine on this one. What has Heavron done previously with Barton last year to warrant such treatment. I am surprised there hasn't been more made of this considering the guy is one of our best players, especially as we have a seriously young panel who need all the help they can get.

On the surface it's a bizarre omission but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. We'll have to see how Derry progress through the season and I'd say Damien has a gameplan in mind for the players he's picked. As a Rossa man I've mixed feelings but it should make us stronger having Danny and Emmett available all year and having a point to prove.
He would need to have a better gameplan than he had for the minor final. Heavron will be a huge loss in my opinion, great football brain and vision.  Both Emmett and Ryan would be very useful options in Division 3 football in January/February and would add a physical presence. Return of some more experienced players balances things a wee bit but getting up from Division 3 is by no means an easy task with the panel available.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on December 21, 2017, 08:30:38 PM
Anyone care to explain why Damian Heavron has been excluded from the panel, very poor from of Mc Erlaine on this one. What has Heavron done previously with Barton last year to warrant such treatment. I am surprised there hasn't been more made of this considering the guy is one of our best players, especially as we have a seriously young panel who need all the help they can get.

On the surface it's a bizarre omission but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. We'll have to see how Derry progress through the season and I'd say Damien has a gameplan in mind for the players he's picked. As a Rossa man I've mixed feelings but it should make us stronger having Danny and Emmett available all year and having a point to prove.
He would need to have a better gameplan than he had for the minor final. Heavron will be a huge loss in my opinion, great football brain and vision.  Both Emmett and Ryan would be very useful options in Division 3 football in January/February and would add a physical presence. Return of some more experienced players balances things a wee bit but getting up from Division 3 is by no means an easy task with the panel available.

His record with the minor team was excellent overall so it would be harsh just to judge him on the final where a brilliant kerry team hit their peak.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shawshank on December 21, 2017, 10:18:53 PM
We’ll agree to disagree on Kerry peaking, the centre was like the parting of the Red Sea, they didn’t have to peak, just run and kick through the middle.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on December 21, 2017, 11:27:03 PM
Anyone care to explain why Damian Heavron has been excluded from the panel, very poor from of Mc Erlaine on this one. What has Heavron done previously with Barton last year to warrant such treatment. I am surprised there hasn't been more made of this considering the guy is one of our best players, especially as we have a seriously young panel who need all the help they can get.

On the surface it's a bizarre omission but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. We'll have to see how Derry progress through the season and I'd say Damien has a gameplan in mind for the players he's picked. As a Rossa man I've mixed feelings but it should make us stronger having Danny and Emmett available all year and having a point to prove.
He would need to have a better gameplan than he had for the minor final. Heavron will be a huge loss in my opinion, great football brain and vision.  Both Emmett and Ryan would be very useful options in Division 3 football in January/February and would add a physical presence. Return of some more experienced players balances things a wee bit but getting up from Division 3 is by no means an easy task with the panel available.

His record with the minor team was excellent overall so it would be harsh just to judge him on the final where a brilliant kerry team hit their peak.
The warning signs were there in the quarterfinal v Sligo so lessons were not learnt.  Then not having a plan A never mind a plan B for David Clifford is worrying.  What is his record like with senior teams?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: allseasons on December 22, 2017, 12:36:30 PM
Anyone care to explain why Damian Heavron has been excluded from the panel, very poor from of Mc Erlaine on this one. What has Heavron done previously with Barton last year to warrant such treatment. I am surprised there hasn't been more made of this considering the guy is one of our best players, especially as we have a seriously young panel who need all the help they can get.

On the surface it's a bizarre omission but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. We'll have to see how Derry progress through the season and I'd say Damien has a gameplan in mind for the players he's picked. As a Rossa man I've mixed feelings but it should make us stronger having Danny and Emmett available all year and having a point to prove.
He would need to have a better gameplan than he had for the minor final. Heavron will be a huge loss in my opinion, great football brain and vision.  Both Emmett and Ryan would be very useful options in Division 3 football in January/February and would add a physical presence. Return of some more experienced players balances things a wee bit but getting up from Division 3 is by no means an easy task with the panel available.

His record with the minor team was excellent overall so it would be harsh just to judge him on the final where a brilliant kerry team hit their peak.
The warning signs were there in the quarterfinal v Sligo so lessons were not learnt.  Then not having a plan A never mind a plan B for David Clifford is worrying.  What is his record like with senior teams?
Let the undermining begin  ::)
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shawshank on December 22, 2017, 02:43:20 PM
Anyone care to explain why Damian Heavron has been excluded from the panel, very poor from of Mc Erlaine on this one. What has Heavron done previously with Barton last year to warrant such treatment. I am surprised there hasn't been more made of this considering the guy is one of our best players, especially as we have a seriously young panel who need all the help they can get.

On the surface it's a bizarre omission but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. We'll have to see how Derry progress through the season and I'd say Damien has a gameplan in mind for the players he's picked. As a Rossa man I've mixed feelings but it should make us stronger having Danny and Emmett available all year and having a point to prove.
He would need to have a better gameplan than he had for the minor final. Heavron will be a huge loss in my opinion, great football brain and vision.  Both Emmett and Ryan would be very useful options in Division 3 football in January/February and would add a physical presence. Return of some more experienced players balances things a wee bit but getting up from Division 3 is by no means an easy task with the panel available.

His record with the minor team was excellent overall so it would be harsh just to judge him on the final where a brilliant kerry team hit their peak.
The warning signs were there in the quarterfinal v Sligo so lessons were not learnt.  Then not having a plan A never mind a plan B for David Clifford is worrying.  What is his record like with senior teams?
Let the undermining begin  ::)

hey man, its not that at all, will we just pretend those things did not happen. He won two Ulsters at minor, that's a fact, will we air brush that as well. Get real.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on December 22, 2017, 05:52:04 PM
Anyone care to explain why Damian Heavron has been excluded from the panel, very poor from of Mc Erlaine on this one. What has Heavron done previously with Barton last year to warrant such treatment. I am surprised there hasn't been more made of this considering the guy is one of our best players, especially as we have a seriously young panel who need all the help they can get.

On the surface it's a bizarre omission but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. We'll have to see how Derry progress through the season and I'd say Damien has a gameplan in mind for the players he's picked. As a Rossa man I've mixed feelings but it should make us stronger having Danny and Emmett available all year and having a point to prove.
He would need to have a better gameplan than he had for the minor final. Heavron will be a huge loss in my opinion, great football brain and vision.  Both Emmett and Ryan would be very useful options in Division 3 football in January/February and would add a physical presence. Return of some more experienced players balances things a wee bit but getting up from Division 3 is by no means an easy task with the panel available.
What a county we live in. Derry had a terrible record at minor until Damian came in.He has won 2 Ulster titles and got to an All Ireland minor final,something which looked so out of reach until his appointment and yet you can only see the negative. Granted we got hammered,but don't slate the man before the season starts.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: thebuzz on December 23, 2017, 12:45:31 AM
Anyone care to explain why Damian Heavron has been excluded from the panel, very poor from of Mc Erlaine on this one. What has Heavron done previously with Barton last year to warrant such treatment. I am surprised there hasn't been more made of this considering the guy is one of our best players, especially as we have a seriously young panel who need all the help they can get.

On the surface it's a bizarre omission but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. We'll have to see how Derry progress through the season and I'd say Damien has a gameplan in mind for the players he's picked. As a Rossa man I've mixed feelings but it should make us stronger having Danny and Emmett available all year and having a point to prove.
He would need to have a better gameplan than he had for the minor final. Heavron will be a huge loss in my opinion, great football brain and vision.  Both Emmett and Ryan would be very useful options in Division 3 football in January/February and would add a physical presence. Return of some more experienced players balances things a wee bit but getting up from Division 3 is by no means an easy task with the panel available.
What a county we live in. Derry had a terrible record at minor until Damian came in.He has won 2 Ulster titles and got to an All Ireland minor final,something which looked so out of reach until his appointment and yet you can only see the negative. Granted we got hammered,but don't slate the man before the season starts.

I don't know if it's been mentioned before, or if it indeed did make a difference, but I don't think he should have been appointed to the Derry Senior job before the minor final. I just think it served to distract him.

I know it shouldn't matter but maybe it didn't help.

When Stephen Rochford was picked for the Mayo Senior post, Corofin lost their next game.

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on December 23, 2017, 02:13:35 AM
Anyone care to explain why Damian Heavron has been excluded from the panel, very poor from of Mc Erlaine on this one. What has Heavron done previously with Barton last year to warrant such treatment. I am surprised there hasn't been more made of this considering the guy is one of our best players, especially as we have a seriously young panel who need all the help they can get.

On the surface it's a bizarre omission but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. We'll have to see how Derry progress through the season and I'd say Damien has a gameplan in mind for the players he's picked. As a Rossa man I've mixed feelings but it should make us stronger having Danny and Emmett available all year and having a point to prove.
He would need to have a better gameplan than he had for the minor final. Heavron will be a huge loss in my opinion, great football brain and vision.  Both Emmett and Ryan would be very useful options in Division 3 football in January/February and would add a physical presence. Return of some more experienced players balances things a wee bit but getting up from Division 3 is by no means an easy task with the panel available.
What a county we live in. Derry had a terrible record at minor until Damian came in.He has won 2 Ulster titles and got to an All Ireland minor final,something which looked so out of reach until his appointment and yet you can only see the negative. Granted we got hammered,but don't slate the man before the season starts.
Read the post. I did not slate the man, I questioned the game plan for the minor final - the main reason the game was over as a contest so early.  How do you think we will do in Division 3 with the players available?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on December 30, 2017, 06:26:02 PM
Anyone care to explain why Damian Heavron has been excluded from the panel, very poor from of Mc Erlaine on this one. What has Heavron done previously with Barton last year to warrant such treatment. I am surprised there hasn't been more made of this considering the guy is one of our best players, especially as we have a seriously young panel who need all the help they can get.

On the surface it's a bizarre omission but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. We'll have to see how Derry progress through the season and I'd say Damien has a gameplan in mind for the players he's picked. As a Rossa man I've mixed feelings but it should make us stronger having Danny and Emmett available all year and having a point to prove.
He would need to have a better gameplan than he had for the minor final. Heavron will be a huge loss in my opinion, great football brain and vision.  Both Emmett and Ryan would be very useful options in Division 3 football in January/February and would add a physical presence. Return of some more experienced players balances things a wee bit but getting up from Division 3 is by no means an easy task with the panel available.
What a county we live in. Derry had a terrible record at minor until Damian came in.He has won 2 Ulster titles and got to an All Ireland minor final,something which looked so out of reach until his appointment and yet you can only see the negative. Granted we got hammered,but don't slate the man before the season starts.
Read the post. I did not slate the man, I questioned the game plan for the minor final - the main reason the game was over as a contest so early.  How do you think we will do in Division 3 with the players available?

Your analysis of the Minor final was correct.  We are going to go into Div 3 with some very inexperienced players.  Westmeath had a good league performance in Div 4 last year and Armagh were unfortunate not to get promoted in 2017.  I don't think we will beat Armagh, Fermanagh or Sligo and Longford have always been a 'bogey' team .... so no promotion for us in 2018.   That said the challenge for us is to build an effective game plan with a competent 'kick-out' strategy.  We will also need to work hard for each other all of the time.  Game-day management is very important and that will include a  'counter-attacking'  plan that gets scores and that best utilises the quality, pace and skill that we have available to us.  We have a lot of players of similar standard and it is vital we create a good team spirit in order to develop a strong 'desire to win' mentality.  Its unlikely that we will make an impact in the Ulster Championship but a good run in the Qualifiers will help us to continue to build a strong foundation for 2019. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on December 31, 2017, 09:49:20 AM
Quote from: restorepride olink=topic=28187.msg1763760#msg1763760 date=1513995215
Anyone care to explain why Damian Heavron has been excluded from the panel, very poor from of Mc Erlaine on this one. What has Heavron done previously with Barton last year to warrant such treatment. I am surprised there hasn't been more made of this considering the guy is one of our best players, especially as we have a seriously young panel who need all the help they can get.

On the surface it's a bizarre omission but the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. We'll have to see how Derry progress through the season and I'd say Damien has a gameplan in mind for the players he's picked. As a Rossa man I've mixed feelings but it should make us stronger having Danny and Emmett available all year and having a point to prove.
He would need to have a better gameplan than he had for the minor final. Heavron will be a huge loss in my opinion, great football brain and vision.  Both Emmett and Ryan would be very useful options in Division 3 football in January/February and would add a physical presence. Return of some more experienced players balances things a wee bit but getting up from Division 3 is by no means an easy task with the panel available.
What a county we live in. Derry had a terrible record at minor until Damian came in.He has won 2 Ulster titles and got to an All Ireland minor final,something which looked so out of reach until his appointment and yet you can only see the negative. Granted we got hammered,but don't slate the man before the season starts.
Read the post. I did not slate the man, I questioned the game plan for the minor final - the main reason the game was over as a contest so early.  How do you think we will do in Division 3 with the players available?

Your analysis of the Minor final was correct.  We are going to go into Div 3 with some very inexperienced players.  Westmeath had a good league performance in Div 4 last year and Armagh were unfortunate not to get promoted in 2017.  I don't think we will beat Armagh, Fermanagh or Sligo and Longford have always been a 'bogey' team .... so no promotion for us in 2018.   That said the challenge for us is to build an effective game plan with a competent 'kick-out' strategy.  We will also need to work hard for each other all of the time.  Game-day management is very important and that will include a  'counter-attacking'  plan that gets scores and that best utilises the quality, pace and skill that we have available to us.  We have a lot of players of similar standard and it is vital we create a good team spirit in order to develop a strong 'desire to win' mentality.  Its unlikely that we will make an impact in the Ulster Championship but a good run in the Qualifiers will help us to continue to build a strong foundation for 2019.
Ah Jeez next year looks a disaster. Wake me up in 2019
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on December 31, 2017, 12:58:15 PM
Recently I did an unscientific survey amongst GAA friends, in five different counties in the four provinces,to find out if their current County manager had all the best players in their specific county at their disposal for the forthcoming League and championship. With the exception of Division One League teams(which is a salutary lesson in itself) all of them had at least a minimum of six players and a maximum of twelve players absent for a variety of reasons.At least four of the players in each case would have been certainties to have been on the starting 15.

In the case of Derry, between players who are unavailable owing to a variety  of personal circumstances and three who did not make the "managerial cut," you could come up with a total of ten.In my opinion three of these would be serious contenders for starting positions.
So according to my "research" Derry are no better or no worse off than at least 24 other counties in terms of the number of their best players available.

Therefore there is no point in any of us whinging over spilled milk. Let us all get behind all the players who are training so diligently at present and management and wish them all the best as they represent our county of Derry with pride,determination and full-blooded effort in 2018 and beyond.Let the days of negative innuendo and constant sniping from the sidelines be but a distant memory. Doire Abu.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on January 02, 2018, 12:19:58 AM
Recently I did an unscientific survey amongst GAA friends, in five different counties in the four provinces,to find out if their current County manager had all the best players in their specific county at their disposal for the forthcoming League and championship. With the exception of Division One League teams(which is a salutary lesson in itself) all of them had at least a minimum of six players and a maximum of twelve players absent for a variety of reasons.At least four of the players in each case would have been certainties to have been on the starting 15.

In the case of Derry, between players who are unavailable owing to a variety  of personal circumstances and three who did not make the "managerial cut," you could come up with a total of ten.In my opinion three of these would be serious contenders for starting positions.
So according to my "research" Derry are no better or no worse off than at least 24 other counties in terms of the number of their best players available.

Therefore there is no point in any of us whinging over spilled milk. Let us all get behind all the players who are training so diligently at present and management and wish them all the best as they represent our county of Derry with pride,determination and full-blooded effort in 2018 and beyond.Let the days of negative innuendo and constant sniping from the sidelines be but a distant memory. Doire Abu.
Your analysis is certainly unscientific but your optimism is always admirable. However you have based your "research" on a false premise so your "result" will always be inaccurate. An interesting 3 matches in 8 days ahead, there should be more evidence available by the 10th.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on January 02, 2018, 10:56:14 PM
Derry v Ulster University: Ben McKinless; Conor McCluskey, Kevin Johnston, Ruairi Mooney; Padraig McGrogan; Michael McEvoy, Jordan Curran; Jack Doherty, Patrick Kearney; Conor Doherty, Ciarán McFaul, Patrick Coney; Enda Lynn, Callum Brown, Peter Hagan. Subs: Oran Hartin, Liam McGoldrick, Conor McAtamney, Mark Lynch, Seán McKeever, Niall Toner, James Kielt.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Squareball71 on January 02, 2018, 11:47:08 PM
Derry v Ulster University: Ben McKinless; Conor McCluskey, Kevin Johnston, Ruairi Mooney; Padraig McGrogan; Michael McEvoy, Jordan Curran; Jack Doherty, Patrick Kearney; Conor Doherty, Ciarán McFaul, Patrick Coney; Enda Lynn, Callum Brown, Peter Hagan. Subs: Oran Hartin, Liam McGoldrick, Conor McAtamney, Mark Lynch, Seán McKeever, Niall Toner, James Kielt.

Callum Brown making his Senior debut for the county before his club. Wow!! Congratulations Big lad!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 03, 2018, 08:15:13 AM
Derry v Ulster University: Ben McKinless; Conor McCluskey, Kevin Johnston, Ruairi Mooney; Padraig McGrogan; Michael McEvoy, Jordan Curran; Jack Doherty, Patrick Kearney; Conor Doherty, Ciarán McFaul, Patrick Coney; Enda Lynn, Callum Brown, Peter Hagan. Subs: Oran Hartin, Liam McGoldrick, Conor McAtamney, Mark Lynch, Seán McKeever, Niall Toner, James Kielt.

Callum Brown making his Senior debut for the county before his club. Wow!! Congratulations Big lad!!

Not the only one on the team that hasn't made their club senior debut. Shocking team.

How many fellas to come in? The 6/7 Slaughtneil men badly needed.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: The Bearded One on January 03, 2018, 09:15:57 AM
Am I correct in saying that Callum Brown didn't start a game for the minors last year, was always used as a sub?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on January 03, 2018, 09:42:17 AM
Yep pretty sure he was always used as an impact sub ,
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: honthecounty on January 03, 2018, 10:03:19 AM
The more i look at that team the more i cannot believe that the likes of a Danny Heavron are not involved as he would be massive this year with a young squad, i know that the Slaughtneil ones are to come back in as well as Terence o'brien and Danny Tallon there is still potential there. Hopefully a good start tonight will go a long way to killing all the negativity about the squad and county as a whole. Doire Abu.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 03, 2018, 11:57:42 AM
The more i look at that team the more i cannot believe that the likes of a Danny Heavron are not involved as he would be massive this year with a young squad, i know that the Slaughtneil ones are to come back in as well as Terence o'brien and Danny Tallon there is still potential there. Hopefully a good start tonight will go a long way to killing all the negativity about the squad and county as a whole. Doire Abu.

Shocking decision surely, didn't take that poor team being published to highlight how bad a decision it was. I just don't understand how your best player in each of the past 2-3 years doesn't make a 30man panel ahead of boys that haven't played senior club football yet, madness.
 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on January 03, 2018, 01:02:32 PM
The more i look at that team the more i cannot believe that the likes of a Danny Heavron are not involved as he would be massive this year with a young squad, i know that the Slaughtneil ones are to come back in as well as Terence o'brien and Danny Tallon there is still potential there. Hopefully a good start tonight will go a long way to killing all the negativity about the squad and county as a whole. Doire Abu.

Shocking decision surely, didn't take that poor team being published to highlight how bad a decision it was. I just don't understand how your best player in each of the past 2-3 years doesn't make a 30man panel ahead of boys that haven't played senior club football yet, madness.
 

Did he refuse to join the panel or was he not asked ?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on January 03, 2018, 01:27:32 PM
The more i look at that team the more i cannot believe that the likes of a Danny Heavron are not involved as he would be massive this year with a young squad, i know that the Slaughtneil ones are to come back in as well as Terence o'brien and Danny Tallon there is still potential there. Hopefully a good start tonight will go a long way to killing all the negativity about the squad and county as a whole. Doire Abu.

Shocking decision surely, didn't take that poor team being published to highlight how bad a decision it was. I just don't understand how your best player in each of the past 2-3 years doesn't make a 30man panel ahead of boys that haven't played senior club football yet, madness.
 

Did he refuse to join the panel or was he not asked ?

he was informed his services were no longer required
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 03, 2018, 01:28:18 PM
The more i look at that team the more i cannot believe that the likes of a Danny Heavron are not involved as he would be massive this year with a young squad, i know that the Slaughtneil ones are to come back in as well as Terence o'brien and Danny Tallon there is still potential there. Hopefully a good start tonight will go a long way to killing all the negativity about the squad and county as a whole. Doire Abu.

Shocking decision surely, didn't take that poor team being published to highlight how bad a decision it was. I just don't understand how your best player in each of the past 2-3 years doesn't make a 30man panel ahead of boys that haven't played senior club football yet, madness.
 

Did he refuse to join the panel or was he not asked ?

he was informed his services were no longer required

Have heard this. The reasons he was given are laughable
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: ONEDerry on January 03, 2018, 01:51:56 PM
The more i look at that team the more i cannot believe that the likes of a Danny Heavron are not involved as he would be massive this year with a young squad, i know that the Slaughtneil ones are to come back in as well as Terence o'brien and Danny Tallon there is still potential there. Hopefully a good start tonight will go a long way to killing all the negativity about the squad and county as a whole. Doire Abu.

Shocking decision surely, didn't take that poor team being published to highlight how bad a decision it was. I just don't understand how your best player in each of the past 2-3 years doesn't make a 30man panel ahead of boys that haven't played senior club football yet, madness.

Had you this lined up as a response before a team was named or even takes the field. No notion of offering support to a young team with lads making their senior debut. Just hoping for failure so can turn round and say  - i told you so. One player doesn't make a team.  Feigning shock and outrage at this stage - catch a grip  :o
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 03, 2018, 02:22:38 PM
The more i look at that team the more i cannot believe that the likes of a Danny Heavron are not involved as he would be massive this year with a young squad, i know that the Slaughtneil ones are to come back in as well as Terence o'brien and Danny Tallon there is still potential there. Hopefully a good start tonight will go a long way to killing all the negativity about the squad and county as a whole. Doire Abu.

Shocking decision surely, didn't take that poor team being published to highlight how bad a decision it was. I just don't understand how your best player in each of the past 2-3 years doesn't make a 30man panel ahead of boys that haven't played senior club football yet, madness.

Had you this lined up as a response before a team was named or even takes the field. No notion of offering support to a young team with lads making their senior debut. Just hoping for failure so can turn round and say  - i told you so. One player doesn't make a team.  Feigning shock and outrage at this stage - catch a grip  :o



I agree with the idea of giving younger players a run but not when the young players aren’t good enough. Fair enough 3 or 4 of them are, the other 3 or 4 aren’t.

Yeah I’ll sit and say nothing when a player who wasn’t good enough to start on our minor team last year is suddenly good enough for our senior team 4 months later while or best player is sitting at home because 1) Management have idiotic reasons for leaving him out or 2) don’t have the balls to give him a proper reason.

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: honthecounty on January 03, 2018, 02:43:43 PM
Dont think anyone said that one man would make the team but Im sure the team would benefit with someone of his experience in it. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: The Bearded One on January 03, 2018, 02:57:21 PM
The more i look at that team the more i cannot believe that the likes of a Danny Heavron are not involved as he would be massive this year with a young squad, i know that the Slaughtneil ones are to come back in as well as Terence o'brien and Danny Tallon there is still potential there. Hopefully a good start tonight will go a long way to killing all the negativity about the squad and county as a whole. Doire Abu.

Shocking decision surely, didn't take that poor team being published to highlight how bad a decision it was. I just don't understand how your best player in each of the past 2-3 years doesn't make a 30man panel ahead of boys that haven't played senior club football yet, madness.

Had you this lined up as a response before a team was named or even takes the field. No notion of offering support to a young team with lads making their senior debut. Just hoping for failure so can turn round and say  - i told you so. One player doesn't make a team.  Feigning shock and outrage at this stage - catch a grip  :o



I agree with the idea of giving younger players a run but not when the young players aren’t good enough. Fair enough 3 or 4 of them are, the other 3 or 4 aren’t.

Yeah I’ll sit and say nothing when a player who wasn’t good enough to start on our minor team last year is suddenly good enough for our senior team 4 months later while or best player is sitting at home because 1) Management have idiotic reasons for leaving him out or 2) don’t have the balls to give him a proper reason.

Maybe the manager thinks Callum Brown can inflict the same damage as David Clifford done in last years final? He certainly has the physique.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on January 03, 2018, 03:46:09 PM
The more i look at that team the more i cannot believe that the likes of a Danny Heavron are not involved as he would be massive this year with a young squad, i know that the Slaughtneil ones are to come back in as well as Terence o'brien and Danny Tallon there is still potential there. Hopefully a good start tonight will go a long way to killing all the negativity about the squad and county as a whole. Doire Abu.

Shocking decision surely, didn't take that poor team being published to highlight how bad a decision it was. I just don't understand how your best player in each of the past 2-3 years doesn't make a 30man panel ahead of boys that haven't played senior club football yet, madness.

Had you this lined up as a response before a team was named or even takes the field. No notion of offering support to a young team with lads making their senior debut. Just hoping for failure so can turn round and say  - i told you so. One player doesn't make a team.  Feigning shock and outrage at this stage - catch a grip  :o



I agree with the idea of giving younger players a run but not when the young players aren’t good enough. Fair enough 3 or 4 of them are, the other 3 or 4 aren’t.

Yeah I’ll sit and say nothing when a player who wasn’t good enough to start on our minor team last year is suddenly good enough for our senior team 4 months later while or best player is sitting at home because 1) Management have idiotic reasons for leaving him out or 2) don’t have the balls to give him a proper reason.

Maybe the manager thinks Callum Brown can inflict the same damage as David Clifford done in last years final? He certainly has the physique.
Are you seriously comparing Callum Brown to David Clifford !!!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: The Bearded One on January 03, 2018, 03:55:10 PM
It was sarcasm. Obviously McErlain hadn't identified Clifford's ability prior to that game!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on January 03, 2018, 04:24:27 PM
It was sarcasm. Obviously McErlain hadn't identified Clifford's ability prior to that game!

Let’s reserve judgement until the season is over. Hopefully this season we can get promoted, play in a league final at Croke Park and have a reasonable run in the championship. It’s a young side at the moment but with much potential. If people here are putting all the blame on Damien for the all Ireland final defeat then by that logic he has to get all the credit for the great wins to get there. We beat some very good teams not least Tyrone who were big favourites for Ulster.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: The Bearded One on January 03, 2018, 04:30:27 PM
Absolutely, he and his management team done an exceptional job across their tenure with the minors and I think they are fully deserving of their chance now. As a Tyrone man I was being slightly facetious about Clifford, I don't think many senior full backs would have stopped him that day.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 03, 2018, 06:07:13 PM
Playing a cub of 17yrs of age to be half kilt; when u can pick ready to go county men! That lad way too young especially saying u didnt think he was good enough to start minor 4 months bck; go figure!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on January 03, 2018, 08:39:39 PM
Chill the f**k out lads. . . they're playing a University team in a meaningless competition at the beginning of January.

Can we at least reserve judgment until the National League??
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Chief on January 03, 2018, 08:48:55 PM
Amen - a lot of eejits on here need to remember the AI final isn't played until September
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 03, 2018, 09:53:25 PM
My concern is playing a lad too young for this level where he could easily be hurt when there are plenty of actual men who could play not a lad who was u-16 less than a yr ago !
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on January 03, 2018, 10:16:33 PM
Playing a cub of 17yrs of age to be half kilt; when u can pick ready to go county men! That lad way too young especially saying u didnt think he was good enough to start minor 4 months bck; go figure!!

Sure ye canny play senior County at 17!

Twas the old guard coming on in the 2nd half that pulled the game out of the fire. UUJ had enough chances to win it fairness, with a more experienced line up than the starting Derry lineup, it wouldn't have been that much of a surprise.
Young Mooney MotM, he played well and has some long range pass on him. McEvoy and Jack Doherty had fine games with Enda being the standout.
Plenty of much needed experience for the young guns who featured.
Surely the likes of G McKindless and Heavron will be added to to the panel?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on January 03, 2018, 11:37:46 PM
Toner started instead of Brown, who did not feature!  Derry 1-6/0-8 up at halftime, against the breeze, Lynn with the goal. Kielt (1-2), McGoldrick and McAtamney all came on at halftime, Lynch (0-2) later and all were needed to secure the win against 14 men for most of second half, Rory Brennan got a straight red. Ruairí Mooney was impressive on the night, very strong and athletic with good vision. Coney worked hard throughout and does a lot of unseen, unselfish work. Defensive weakness shown up in second half with three goals, one from Tallon, and there could have been 3 more! No new scoring threats up front and midfield is still a big concern. Overall deserved the win and looked very mobile at times but against a county team at least 6 of the starting 15 tonight will be out of their depth. Final score: Derry 2-14 UUJ 3-10.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on January 04, 2018, 12:52:56 AM
I don’t think I’ll be back at another Derry game this year after that tonight......


As I’m going back to the mainland and when I return in July, usually we are out of the Championship.


 


Anyways, good to see the city helping the county out for hosting an oul Gaelic football game from time to time.

Congratulations to the best debutant on show tonight, Eoghan McGuigan, who has taken on the role of  the new stadium announcer. Maith thu.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 04, 2018, 07:54:02 AM
Where is mooney from?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 04, 2018, 08:14:19 AM
Where is mooney from?

Coleraine
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on January 04, 2018, 08:17:13 AM
I don’t think I’ll be back at another Derry game this year after that tonight......


As I’m going back to the mainland and when I return in July, usually we are out of the Championship.


 


Anyways, good to see the city helping the county out for hosting an oul Gaelic football game from time to time.

Congratulations to the best debutant on show tonight, Eoghan McGuigan, who has taken on the role of  the new stadium announcer. Maith thu.

Were you watching a live stream of the match over on Inch Island Tickle?  :D
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: honthecounty on January 04, 2018, 11:06:38 AM
Playing a cub of 17yrs of age to be half kilt; when u can pick ready to go county men! That lad way too young especially saying u didnt think he was good enough to start minor 4 months bck; go figure!!

Sure ye canny play senior County at 17!

Twas the old guard coming on in the 2nd half that pulled the game out of the fire. UUJ had enough chances to win it fairness, with a more experienced line up than the starting Derry lineup, it wouldn't have been that much of a surprise.
Young Mooney MotM, he played well and has some long range pass on him. McEvoy and Jack Doherty had fine games with Enda being the standout.
Plenty of much needed experience for the young guns who featured.
Surely the likes of G McKindless and Heavron will be added to to the panel?


Fair play for Callum getting named to play and obviously Damien thinks hes good enough and he has the potential to be a big player in the next decade - but how did Derry not pick up on him being ineligible to play as hes to young before naming the team?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on January 04, 2018, 11:51:11 AM
Playing a cub of 17yrs of age to be half kilt; when u can pick ready to go county men! That lad way too young especially saying u didnt think he was good enough to start minor 4 months bck; go figure!!

Sure ye canny play senior County at 17!

Twas the old guard coming on in the 2nd half that pulled the game out of the fire. UUJ had enough chances to win it fairness, with a more experienced line up than the starting Derry lineup, it wouldn't have been that much of a surprise.
Young Mooney MotM, he played well and has some long range pass on him. McEvoy and Jack Doherty had fine games with Enda being the standout.
Plenty of much needed experience for the young guns who featured.
Surely the likes of G McKindless and Heavron will be added to to the panel?


Fair play for Callum getting named to play and obviously Damien thinks hes good enough and he has the potential to be a big player in the next decade - but how did Derry not pick up on him being ineligible to play as hes to young before naming the team?
I don't get this. If he's too young should he not be on the u17 panel?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 04, 2018, 12:14:40 PM
Playing a cub of 17yrs of age to be half kilt; when u can pick ready to go county men! That lad way too young especially saying u didnt think he was good enough to start minor 4 months bck; go figure!!

Sure ye canny play senior County at 17!

Twas the old guard coming on in the 2nd half that pulled the game out of the fire. UUJ had enough chances to win it fairness, with a more experienced line up than the starting Derry lineup, it wouldn't have been that much of a surprise.
Young Mooney MotM, he played well and has some long range pass on him. McEvoy and Jack Doherty had fine games with Enda being the standout.
Plenty of much needed experience for the young guns who featured.
Surely the likes of G McKindless and Heavron will be added to to the panel?


Fair play for Callum getting named to play and obviously Damien thinks hes good enough and he has the potential to be a big player in the next decade - but how did Derry not pick up on him being ineligible to play as hes to young before naming the team?
I don't get this. If he's too young should he not be on the u17 panel?




Too old to play u17
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 04, 2018, 12:46:36 PM
Another shambolic rule from the GAA
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on January 06, 2018, 09:22:03 PM
Derry (v Armagh): Oran Hartin; Conor McCluskey, Liam McGoldrick, Ruairi Mooney; Padraig McGrogan, Michael McEvoy, Jordan Curran; Kevin Johnston, Conor McAtamney; Jack Doherty, Ciaran McFaul, Patrick Coney; Enda Lynn, Niall Toner, Peter Hagan. Subs: Ben McKinless, Conor Doherty, Fergal Higgins, Patrick Kearney, James Kielt, Mark Lynch, Seán McKeever, Gearoid McLaughlin.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Waataboutyee on January 08, 2018, 08:41:13 AM
Who do I send my mileage expenses to  >:(
After going to Celtic Park on Wednesday night, I was hoping to see how the young bucks faired out against more physical opposition in Armagh.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: ON THE HILL on January 08, 2018, 03:29:28 PM
Any idea off start date for new league season?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on January 08, 2018, 03:48:12 PM
Heard last night that the SF league starts early April, running until May, with all of June and the July fortnight free. Championship starting on the second week of September. No idea if true or not, but cannot see the sense in stretching the season out like that! All depends on the county team I suppose, but I can't see them having a long run this summer (I hope I'm wrong). Why keep lads waiting until September until SFC?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: ON THE HILL on January 08, 2018, 04:30:07 PM
6 weeks with no league games? am i reading that right?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 08, 2018, 05:00:23 PM
Have heard very little on the running of the club football for this year apart from every league in Ulster is supposed to be starting on April fools day 1st April.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on January 08, 2018, 08:09:54 PM
And 4 teams apparently getter relegated from Div 1 ,winner of Div 2 plays the 12th placed team in Division 1 in a play off,,4 teams dropping down from Division 2 also
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on January 08, 2018, 08:38:30 PM
Isnt April 1st on Easter Sunday this year?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 09, 2018, 08:10:57 AM
Isnt April 1st on Easter Sunday this year?

Very true. I had heard a few months back they were looking all leagues started on 1st April maybe with that being Easter they will start the week after.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: ON THE HILL on January 09, 2018, 03:04:32 PM
sat 31st march
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: honthecounty on January 09, 2018, 03:46:53 PM
And 4 teams apparently getter relegated from Div 1 ,winner of Div 2 plays the 12th placed team in Division 1 in a play off,,4 teams dropping down from Division 2 also

whats the reasons for this?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on January 10, 2018, 10:40:36 PM
Good fair at CP tonight. We were behind from about the 3rd minute until Endaonion bagged. He was excellent again tonight. McFaul, McAtamaney had good games. Young McCluskey was solid before going off injured. McEvoy again was good, carried the ball into the tackle a couple of times but the McKenna is the place to learn. The jury is out with McGoldrick at 3, superb footballer, position wise a bit off kilter but it's a specialised position. Will come good I'd say

Did O'Hanlon get the line at the end? He could have been shown 3 red cards! Some going for one player

Would it be 4 / 5 years since Mick Bateson played county? Good to have him back.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on January 10, 2018, 11:29:31 PM
Could be wrong but it would have been probably  2012 / 13 the last time  Michael Bateson was on the panel ( he started the ulster final in 2011 and played  in 2012 as well (   God a bad knock against monaghan in the league that year )
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on January 11, 2018, 12:51:50 AM
Good fair at CP tonight. We were behind from about the 3rd minute until Endaonion bagged. He was excellent again tonight. McFaul, McAtamaney had good games. Young McCluskey was solid before going off injured. McEvoy again was good, carried the ball into the tackle a couple of times but the McKenna is the place to learn. The jury is out with McGoldrick at 3, superb footballer, position wise a bit off kilter but it's a specialised position. Will come good I'd say

Did O'Hanlon get the line at the end? He could have been shown 3 red cards! Some going for one player

Would it be 4 / 5 years since Mick Bateson played county? Good to have him back.

Lynn is a fantastic footballer but was it not Niall Toner who scored the crucial goal? Derry defence completely at sea in the first quarter, kick outs poor, 3 over the sideline, Down could have had 2 more goals. Needed extra man back to steady the ship. A few players out of depth and position but they did turn the game around so fair play to them. McFaul and to an extent McAtamaney need to get the temperament sorted. O'Hanlon came on to act the thug - it didn't work v Slaughtneil and glad it backfired again tonight.

My last memory of Bateson for Derry was indeed v Monaghan in Celtic Park and a cheap, late, dirty slap from Dick Clerkin, no surprise there.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on January 11, 2018, 12:59:35 AM
Yep it was a cheap shot from Clerkin all right, (one of many he threw - Big Fergal the recipient of a lot of them)
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on January 11, 2018, 08:04:25 AM
Good fair at CP tonight. We were behind from about the 3rd minute until Endaonion bagged. He was excellent again tonight. McFaul, McAtamaney had good games. Young McCluskey was solid before going off injured. McEvoy again was good, carried the ball into the tackle a couple of times but the McKenna is the place to learn. The jury is out with McGoldrick at 3, superb footballer, position wise a bit off kilter but it's a specialised position. Will come good I'd say

Did O'Hanlon get the line at the end? He could have been shown 3 red cards! Some going for one player

Would it be 4 / 5 years since Mick Bateson played county? Good to have him back.

Lynn is a fantastic footballer but was it not Niall Toner who scored the crucial goal? Derry defence completely at sea in the first quarter, kick outs poor, 3 over the sideline, Down could have had 2 more goals. Needed extra man back to steady the ship. A few players out of depth and position but they did turn the game around so fair play to them. McFaul and to an extent McAtamaney need to get the temperament sorted. O'Hanlon came on to act the thug - it didn't work v Slaughtneil and glad it backfired again tonight.

My last memory of Bateson for Derry was indeed v Monaghan in Celtic Park and a cheap, late, dirty slap from Dick Clerkin, no surprise there.

Was it Toner? He runs like Enda then. You were relying on a man's shape and running style to recognise the players last night if they werent close enough to the main stand. Down maybe could have scored a couple more, but 1 of their goals the man took about 10 steps the other there was a blatant push on the Derry defender (again couldn't see who it was). Anyhoo, good run out and spirit shown to come back from 7/8 points behind at a stage
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on January 12, 2018, 09:12:38 AM
6 weeks with no league games? am i reading that right?

I had heard that the Sean Larkin/Carlin Duffy Cup will be played during this time. Don't see the need for Championship to start so late either.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on January 12, 2018, 09:36:00 AM
Carlin/Duffy is a minor competition.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on January 12, 2018, 11:18:10 AM
Carlin/Duffy is a minor competition.

Tells you how much I know about North Derry
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on January 12, 2018, 11:58:38 AM
Carlin/Duffy is a minor competition.

Tells you how much I know about North Derry

Yeah its difficult to keep up... theres so many clubs in derry and such a massive gaa population.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on January 12, 2018, 12:33:27 PM
As Carlus McWilliams  and Benny Heron appear to be the only two players ( other than the Slaughtneil contingent) of the  new Derry panel not to feature for any side in the McKenna Cup, I was wondering if they were injured.If so it means that management will be selecting from a very small pool of players for  at least four of the National League games.It would also surely mean that some additional players would have to be called into the panel presumably from the U20 squad.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on January 12, 2018, 12:41:11 PM
As Carlus McWilliams  and Benny Heron appear to be the only two players ( other than the Slaughtneil contingent) of the  new Derry panel not to feature for any side in the McKenna Cup, I was wondering if they were injured.If so it means that management will be selecting from a very small pool of players for  at least four of the National League games.It would also surely mean that some additional players would have to be called into the panel presumably from the U20 squad.
The current McKenna cup squad along with the 2 Screen lads mentioned and the Uni students would be over 30 of a panel for the National League. More than enough without needing more U20's.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on January 12, 2018, 01:55:21 PM
Carlin/Duffy is a minor competition.

Tells you how much I know about North Derry

Shows be your ignorance.....



Farewell Ballibderry and Ballherty too
And sweet Ballylifford in childhood we knew
When the seeds we have planted have blossomed and grown
Please remember Sean Larkin and lonely Drumboe


Lucky we don’t have that problem in north Derry
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on January 14, 2018, 04:28:36 PM
NO comments since Friday...........

Them south Derry wans are a shower of watery hoorbags.



Anyways, anyone at the game today?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on January 14, 2018, 04:54:20 PM
@ a family do, followed on twitter. Got to within a kick of a ball near the end before Armagh hit a couple.
Be interesting to see the line out for the 1st game in Div 3 and if any of the more seasoned men are brought back in.

Been thinking about lonely Drumboe all weekend.....
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 15, 2018, 08:14:05 AM
Could anyone have a guess at the line up for the first League game in 2 weeks time?

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on January 15, 2018, 09:39:28 AM
Could anyone have a guess at the line up for the first League game in 2 weeks time?
Saying it's relatively quiet i'll give it a go. Just basing this off the initial panel that was named and I'm not up to speed with any lads carrying injuries. I think he'll put out a fairly strong team as promotion has to be an aim whilst still having a look at one or two.

1. Ben McKinless
2. Niall Keenan
3. Kevin Johnston
4. Ruairi Mooney
5. Liam McGoldrick
6. Michael Bateson
7. Michael McEvoy
8. Conor McAtamney
9. Emmett Bradley
10. Ciaran McFaul
11. James Kielt
12. Enda Lynn
13. Niall Toner
14. Mark Lynch
15. Peter Hagan

I'd look to give game time to the likes of Terence O'Brien and Danny Tallon too after lining out for their universities and hopefully see the couple Screen lads make an appearance as well.
 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Derry Optimist on January 15, 2018, 05:05:26 PM
For the attention of my good friend "the ticklemister" and like -  minded historians.

 Sean Larkin of Drumboe fame was born in Bellagherty in the parish of Ballinderry.His younger brother Paddy won a County Championship medal with   Ballinderry in 1927 and another one with the Loup, where he taught for many years, in 1936. When he was County Chairman in  1942 he refereed the County final between Magherafelt and Glenullin. The game  took place in Dungiven.The then County secretary  was future GAA President Paddy MacFlynn. Paddy MacFlynn was also playing for the Rossas that day.When he indulged in over robust play the County chairman had no hesitation in sending him off!They both travelled to and came home from the match together!The following week they again travelled together for the CCCCC meeting of the time.(The County secretary addressed the meeting telling them all which rule he had broken and what his suspension should be.He then sat outside the door  when, on the recommendation of his friend the County Chairman,  he was duly suspended!)

They remained firm and loyal friends for the rest of their lives.These South Derry men were made of stern stuff.

Incidentally Sean Larkin is buried in the Cemetery beside St Patrick's Church in the Loup.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on January 15, 2018, 07:46:38 PM
For the attention of my good friend "the ticklemister" and like -  minded historians.

 Sean Larkin of Drumboe fame was born in Bellagherty in the parish of Ballinderry.His younger brother Paddy won a County Championship medal with   Ballinderry in 1927 and another one with the Loup, where he taught for many years, in 1936. When he was County Chairman in  1942 he refereed the County final between Magherafelt and Glenullin. The game  took place in Dungiven.The then County secretary  was future GAA President Paddy MacFlynn. Paddy MacFlynn was also playing for the Rossas that day.When he indulged in over robust play the County chairman had no hesitation in sending him off!They both travelled to and came home from the match together!The following week they again travelled together for the CCCCC meeting of the time.(The County secretary addressed the meeting telling them all which rule he had broken and what his suspension should be.He then sat outside the door  when, on the recommendation of his friend the County Chairman,  he was duly suspended!)

They remained firm and loyal friends for the rest of their lives.These South Derry men were made of stern stuff.

Incidentally Sean Larkin is buried in the Cemetery beside St Patrick's Church in the Loup.
Honestly,the best post you've put up here. I enjoyed that.  History is your subject. The future,and prediction of teams isn't!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on January 16, 2018, 08:42:32 AM
For the attention of my good friend "the ticklemister" and like -  minded historians.

 Sean Larkin of Drumboe fame was born in Bellagherty in the parish of Ballinderry.His younger brother Paddy won a County Championship medal with   Ballinderry in 1927 and another one with the Loup, where he taught for many years, in 1936. When he was County Chairman in  1942 he refereed the County final between Magherafelt and Glenullin. The game  took place in Dungiven.The then County secretary  was future GAA President Paddy MacFlynn. Paddy MacFlynn was also playing for the Rossas that day.When he indulged in over robust play the County chairman had no hesitation in sending him off!They both travelled to and came home from the match together!The following week they again travelled together for the CCCCC meeting of the time.(The County secretary addressed the meeting telling them all which rule he had broken and what his suspension should be.He then sat outside the door  when, on the recommendation of his friend the County Chairman,  he was duly suspended!)

They remained firm and loyal friends for the rest of their lives.These South Derry men were made of stern stuff.

Incidentally Sean Larkin is buried in the Cemetery beside St Patrick's Church in the Loup.

Fantastic stuff.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on January 16, 2018, 05:51:19 PM


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For the attention of my good friend "the ticklemister" and like -  minded historians.

 Sean Larkin of Drumboe fame was born in Bellagherty in the parish of Ballinderry.His younger brother Paddy won a County Championship medal with   Ballinderry in 1927 and another one with the Loup, where he taught for many years, in 1936. When he was County Chairman in  1942 he refereed the County final between Magherafelt and Glenullin. The game  took place in Dungiven.The then County secretary  was future GAA President Paddy MacFlynn. Paddy MacFlynn was also playing for the Rossas that day.When he indulged in over robust play the County chairman had no hesitation in sending him off!They both travelled to and came home from the match together!The following week they again travelled together for the CCCCC meeting of the time.(The County secretary addressed the meeting telling them all which rule he had broken and what his suspension should be.He then sat outside the door  when, on the recommendation of his friend the County Chairman,  he was duly suspended!)

They remained firm and loyal friends for the rest of their lives.These South Derry men were made of stern stuff.

Incidentally Sean Larkin is buried in the Cemetery beside St Patrick's Church in the Loup.

Yes that's some story .... great stuff .... I love them stories that begin with "do you mind the time .......... "  as long as there is no one around to contradict them ?

Not at all like footballers and football matches .......... its " win win" all the way
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: RedandBlacks on January 17, 2018, 04:02:54 PM
Anyone hear about the shake up in the leagues for this season?

apparently to 2019 league will change from 16 division 1 teams 14 division 2 teams 8 division 3 teams to 12, 12 and 14.

meaning a serious amount of relegation's.

apparently clubs have no say in the matter
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shawshank on January 17, 2018, 05:47:41 PM
Anyone hear about the shake up in the leagues for this season?

apparently to 2019 league will change from 16 division 1 teams 14 division 2 teams 8 division 3 teams to 12, 12 and 14.

meaning a serious amount of relegation's.

apparently clubs have no say in the matter

Your right, clubs have no control or power anymore, it’s all about the county game. Think there is 9 weeks in late May, all June and part of July where there is no club league football, 9 weeks 😡 WTF is happening, meanwhile our county board is not advocating on behalf of our clubs, or if they are they are no gett8ng listened to.  In truth Croke Park call the shots, we are all sub serviants.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 18, 2018, 08:31:15 AM
Teams are guaranteed 16 meaningful games in a season as it stands. 15 League and 1 Championship.

This year there is going to be 7 rounds of the league played from 4th April to 6th May.

Teams will have 45% of their games played in the first month, with 4 and a half months to play the remaining 10 games.

The 9 weeks Shawshank has mentioned above are not totally game free, the District competitions will be played during these months (as these are the weeks the county teams will be in action) The Larkin cup etc will be ran off over these 9 weeks i'm lead to believe with it being in a group stage format for extra games.

I think the craze of young players going to the USA for the summer is going to become even more popular with the first round of championship not pencilled in until weekend 6th-9th September.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on January 18, 2018, 11:17:54 AM
I must say I just completely fail to fathom the rationale for this.

The ratio of training to matches is already astronomical and this plan just seems to increase this.

Already half the league games are rammed into a 6 week window with the vast majority of footballers in Derry twiddling their thumbs all summer. Then the championship is rammed into whatever is left of the season's end.

Additionally the reduction in league numbers will obviously have a knock on effect on the championship draws as well. I think that the league structure is one of the strengths of Derry football, I really can't see how these changes will will do anything other than derail that.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on January 18, 2018, 11:27:55 AM
Teams are guaranteed 16 meaningful games in a season as it stands. 15 League and 1 Championship.

This year there is going to be 7 rounds of the league played from 4th April to 6th May.

Teams will have 45% of their games played in the first month, with 4 and a half months to play the remaining 10 games.

The 9 weeks Shawshank has mentioned above are not totally game free, the District competitions will be played during these months (as these are the weeks the county teams will be in action) The Larkin cup etc will be ran off over these 9 weeks i'm lead to believe with it being in a group stage format for extra games.

I think the craze of young players going to the USA for the summer is going to become even more popular with the first round of championship not pencilled in until weekend 6th-9th September.

Players want to play games. If lads do go to America (who can blame them? - it's a great opportunity) it just gives someone else an opportunity. Players who stay at home don't want to be just training for weeks with no games. The larkin cup should give the clubs plenty of games without the pressure of worrying about relegation and it will allow clubs to blood young players in a competitive environment.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shawshank on January 18, 2018, 12:50:11 PM
Teams are guaranteed 16 meaningful games in a season as it stands. 15 League and 1 Championship.

This year there is going to be 7 rounds of the league played from 4th April to 6th May.

Teams will have 45% of their games played in the first month, with 4 and a half months to play the remaining 10 games.

The 9 weeks Shawshank has mentioned above are not totally game free, the District competitions will be played during these months (as these are the weeks the county teams will be in action) The Larkin cup etc will be ran off over these 9 weeks i'm lead to believe with it being in a group stage format for extra games.

I think the craze of young players going to the USA for the summer is going to become even more popular with the first round of championship not pencilled in until weekend 6th-9th September.

Players want to play games. If lads do go to America (who can blame them? - it's a great opportunity) it just gives someone else an opportunity. Players who stay at home don't want to be just training for weeks with no games. The larkin cup should give the clubs plenty of games without the pressure of worrying about relegation and it will allow clubs to blood young players in a competitive environment.

Lenny from your post its looks like you are not on the grass roots level of players, they are not interested in Larkin cups. Can you not see that club football is being year by year stripped. It is now two seasons. Preseason friendlies in March with 7 league games wrapped up by mid May, take a big break, season resumes in mid July with carnival football in between. Its all wrong and catered for 2% of the playing population. here's another sore point for me. The league resumes I believe on the weekend 15th July, right bang in the middle of the holidays of trades men and most businesses in the north. Choice; family holiday for the player with kids or has a partner, or even lads to go with mates for a break or not. They can't choose when they take their holidays. Club players bottom of the pile when it comes to their needs. You could of course argue its the same for the county player, the difference being they have a choice to be a county player, the club player has no choice, sub servient.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 18, 2018, 12:50:41 PM
Teams are guaranteed 16 meaningful games in a season as it stands. 15 League and 1 Championship.

This year there is going to be 7 rounds of the league played from 4th April to 6th May.

Teams will have 45% of their games played in the first month, with 4 and a half months to play the remaining 10 games.

The 9 weeks Shawshank has mentioned above are not totally game free, the District competitions will be played during these months (as these are the weeks the county teams will be in action) The Larkin cup etc will be ran off over these 9 weeks i'm lead to believe with it being in a group stage format for extra games.

I think the craze of young players going to the USA for the summer is going to become even more popular with the first round of championship not pencilled in until weekend 6th-9th September.

Players want to play games. If lads do go to America (who can blame them? - it's a great opportunity) it just gives someone else an opportunity. Players who stay at home don't want to be just training for weeks with no games. The larkin cup should give the clubs plenty of games without the pressure of worrying about relegation and it will allow clubs to blood young players in a competitive environment.

I never have, and never will criticise a player for going to America. 6-8 weeks, a few grand and a summer of a lifetime but their is no doubt it weakens teams when players go away and there will be clubs that are unhappy.

I'm also not sure young players are going to learn much by getting a few minutes in a Larkin cup game. I think it should be left as a pre season tournament and not used throughout May and June.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on January 18, 2018, 02:34:38 PM
Teams are guaranteed 16 meaningful games in a season as it stands. 15 League and 1 Championship.

This year there is going to be 7 rounds of the league played from 4th April to 6th May.

Teams will have 45% of their games played in the first month, with 4 and a half months to play the remaining 10 games.

The 9 weeks Shawshank has mentioned above are not totally game free, the District competitions will be played during these months (as these are the weeks the county teams will be in action) The Larkin cup etc will be ran off over these 9 weeks i'm lead to believe with it being in a group stage format for extra games.

I think the craze of young players going to the USA for the summer is going to become even more popular with the first round of championship not pencilled in until weekend 6th-9th September.

Players want to play games. If lads do go to America (who can blame them? - it's a great opportunity) it just gives someone else an opportunity. Players who stay at home don't want to be just training for weeks with no games. The larkin cup should give the clubs plenty of games without the pressure of worrying about relegation and it will allow clubs to blood young players in a competitive environment.

I never have, and never will criticise a player for going to America. 6-8 weeks, a few grand and a summer of a lifetime but their is no doubt it weakens teams when players go away and there will be clubs that are unhappy.

I'm also not sure young players are going to learn much by getting a few minutes in a Larkin cup game. I think it should be left as a pre season tournament and not used throughout May and June.

It's a compromise. The county players will not be available so at least players can get games during that period. How seriously they take those games is up to the players and clubs.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on January 18, 2018, 03:27:31 PM
Teams are guaranteed 16 meaningful games in a season as it stands. 15 League and 1 Championship.

This year there is going to be 7 rounds of the league played from 4th April to 6th May.

Teams will have 45% of their games played in the first month, with 4 and a half months to play the remaining 10 games.

The 9 weeks Shawshank has mentioned above are not totally game free, the District competitions will be played during these months (as these are the weeks the county teams will be in action) The Larkin cup etc will be ran off over these 9 weeks i'm lead to believe with it being in a group stage format for extra games.

I think the craze of young players going to the USA for the summer is going to become even more popular with the first round of championship not pencilled in until weekend 6th-9th September.

Players want to play games. If lads do go to America (who can blame them? - it's a great opportunity) it just gives someone else an opportunity. Players who stay at home don't want to be just training for weeks with no games. The larkin cup should give the clubs plenty of games without the pressure of worrying about relegation and it will allow clubs to blood young players in a competitive environment.

I never have, and never will criticise a player for going to America. 6-8 weeks, a few grand and a summer of a lifetime but their is no doubt it weakens teams when players go away and there will be clubs that are unhappy.

I'm also not sure young players are going to learn much by getting a few minutes in a Larkin cup game. I think it should be left as a pre season tournament and not used throughout May and June.

It's a compromise. The county players will not be available so at least players can get games during that period. How seriously they take those games is up to the players and clubs.

How is it a compromise for the club player reducing the number of competitive games they get in a season? 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on January 18, 2018, 05:18:14 PM
Any club secretaries out there who can verify the league structures?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Josey Wales on January 18, 2018, 09:55:09 PM
Barker and the complete County board don’t give one dam about clubs.  Its all about the County and croke park.

 Used to be clubs would have made a bit of much needed money by being given the odd club championship match.  They have taken all that now and the club even have to pay the ref for championship matches while the County board pocket all the gate recipts. 

Also im trying to remember but wasn’t there a case recently where clubs voted a certain way for a motion, but our Country board delegated went down to croker and voted against the will of the club vote.  Can someone let me know what this motion was?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on January 19, 2018, 09:04:05 AM
The Larkin Cup is a load of shite lads, lets be honest.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on January 19, 2018, 09:12:30 AM
The Larkin Cup is a load of shite lads, lets be honest.
Maybe clubs should put more emphasis on these competitions considering the lack of competitive games compared to training that is apparent.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on January 19, 2018, 09:45:07 AM
No, they shouldn't. The clubs would be better off campaigning to change the league structure. The Larkin Cup has never been, and will never be, a competition clubs take seriously. Do you know who won it last year (without googling)? I don't, and I'm pretty sure most people on here don't know either. The current league structure makes no sense for players, and clubs would be better off having their say about that rather than treating the Larkin Cup like another couple of league games.

A couple of seasons ago the County Board had it spot on. First year of the straight knock out championship. All league games played most weeks, and league finished before the championship first round. Left clubs a couple of weeks to focus purely on championship.

Now it's gone to the dogs.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on January 19, 2018, 11:19:56 AM
The Larkin Cup is a load of shite lads, lets be honest.
Maybe clubs should put more emphasis on these competitions considering the lack of competitive games compared to training that is apparent.

Totally agree. If you think this competition is rubbish it will be. If you take it seriously it can be a good competition and clubs can get a lot out of it. It will get much increased kudos from being a stand alone competition in the middle of the season. In previous seasons it just got in the way of important league games.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: DoYerJob Linesman on January 19, 2018, 11:41:21 AM
Kudos for winning a Larkin Cup?   ;D
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 19, 2018, 01:54:49 PM
The Larkin Cup is a load of shite lads, lets be honest.
Maybe clubs should put more emphasis on these competitions considering the lack of competitive games compared to training that is apparent.

Totally agree. If you think this competition is rubbish it will be. If you take it seriously it can be a good competition and clubs can get a lot out of it. It will get much increased kudos from being a stand alone competition in the middle of the season. In previous seasons it just got in the way of important league games.

Lenny, its a crap competition. How are teams expected to take it serious when their county men aren't able to play in it. e.g you could play a =Slaughtneil side missing 7 players.

It's purpose was a pre season comp, similar to Hughes/McElwee in minors.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on January 19, 2018, 02:35:31 PM
The Larkin Cup is a load of shite lads, lets be honest.
Maybe clubs should put more emphasis on these competitions considering the lack of competitive games compared to training that is apparent.

Totally agree. If you think this competition is rubbish it will be. If you take it seriously it can be a good competition and clubs can get a lot out of it. It will get much increased kudos from being a stand alone competition in the middle of the season. In previous seasons it just got in the way of important league games.

Lenny, its a crap competition. How are teams expected to take it serious when their county men aren't able to play in it. e.g you could play a =Slaughtneil side missing 7 players.

It's purpose was a pre season comp, similar to Hughes/McElwee in minors.

95% of players aren't county players. What are those players supposed to do in the 8 or 9 week break. With this competition in place they are going to get regular games. It's nowhere near as important as league or championship but the players will enjoy getting regular games even without county men.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on January 19, 2018, 03:02:11 PM
No, they shouldn't. The clubs would be better off campaigning to change the league structure. The Larkin Cup has never been, and will never be, a competition clubs take seriously. Do you know who won it last year (without googling)? I don't, and I'm pretty sure most people on here don't know either. The current league structure makes no sense for players, and clubs would be better off having their say about that rather than treating the Larkin Cup like another couple of league games.

A couple of seasons ago the County Board had it spot on. First year of the straight knock out championship. All league games played most weeks, and league finished before the championship first round. Left clubs a couple of weeks to focus purely on championship.

Now it's gone to the dogs.

I googled it and I still don't know!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Josey Wales on January 19, 2018, 04:13:36 PM
The Larkin Cup is a load of shite lads, lets be honest.
Maybe clubs should put more emphasis on these competitions considering the lack of competitive games compared to training that is apparent.

Totally agree. If you think this competition is rubbish it will be. If you take it seriously it can be a good competition and clubs can get a lot out of it. It will get much increased kudos from being a stand alone competition in the middle of the season. In previous seasons it just got in the way of important league games.

Lenny, its a crap competition. How are teams expected to take it serious when their county men aren't able to play in it. e.g you could play a =Slaughtneil side missing 7 players.

It's purpose was a pre season comp, similar to Hughes/McElwee in minors.

95% of players aren't county players. What are those players supposed to do in the 8 or 9 week break. With this competition in place they are going to get regular games. It's nowhere near as important as league or championship but the players will enjoy getting regular games even without county men.

Larkin cup, wise up. 

The players shouldnt have to do anything as there shouldnt be a 9 week break.  Also what about the respective club spectators who have given there all for their club for 60 to 70 years.  Are they just expected to sit for nearly 3 months at the height of the good weather and watch meaningless dung, not even mentioning the reduction of 15 competitive games a year to 11?

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shawshank on January 19, 2018, 04:36:02 PM
Lenny is clearly a CB man or a big supporter of their approach as any club man can clearly see how our club football is being dismantled.

I personally feel clubs should take a stand and make a statement to our county board, maybe something as simple as boycott the Larkin Cup this season to see if they get the message, if the same shite is in situ next season boycott the league. How else can it be turned around, talking isn’t working as no one is listening
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Josey Wales on January 19, 2018, 04:46:59 PM
Barker and the complete County board don’t give one dam about clubs.  Its all about the County and croke park.

 Used to be clubs would have made a bit of much needed money by being given the odd club championship match.  They have taken all that now and the club even have to pay the ref for championship matches while the County board pocket all the gate recipts. 

Also im trying to remember but wasn’t there a case recently where clubs voted a certain way for a motion, but our Country board delegated went down to croker and voted against the will of the club vote.  Can someone let me know what this motion was?

Was doing abit of asking about and it was the black card motion our County board Croke Park representitive went against the vote of the Co Derry clubs and voted differently.  Not 100% sure but i think it was Gerad O'Kane.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Josey Wales on January 19, 2018, 04:51:52 PM
Lenny is clearly a CB man or a big supporter of their approach as any club man can clearly see how our club football is being dismantled.

I personally feel clubs should take a stand and make a statement to our county board, maybe something as simple as boycott the Larkin Cup this season to see if they get the message, if the same shite is in situ next season boycott the league. How else can it be turned around, talking isn’t working as no one is listening

Maybe club members should boycott County games until the county board starts listening.  Its risky though, as no one may notice, given that i believe this is already happening with the attendances at these games.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on January 19, 2018, 05:13:58 PM
Lenny is clearly a CB man or a big supporter of their approach as any club man can clearly see how our club football is being dismantled.

I personally feel clubs should take a stand and make a statement to our county board, maybe something as simple as boycott the Larkin Cup this season to see if they get the message, if the same shite is in situ next season boycott the league. How else can it be turned around, talking isn’t working as no one is listening

Maybe club members should boycott County games until the county board starts listening.  Its risky though, as no one may notice, given that i believe this is already happening with the attendances at these games.

What clubs should do is gain what other clubs are doing in other counties and petition the CPA to see what they think.

Maybe a general club strike throughout the country could be the way to operate?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on January 19, 2018, 05:27:24 PM
Lenny is clearly a CB man or a big supporter of their approach as any club man can clearly see how our club football is being dismantled.

I personally feel clubs should take a stand and make a statement to our county board, maybe something as simple as boycott the Larkin Cup this season to see if they get the message, if the same shite is in situ next season boycott the league. How else can it be turned around, talking isn’t working as no one is listening

I'm not a county board man at all. I'm simply thinking from a players point of view. Players don't want to be training for weeks on end with no matches. This mid season competition allows the players to get regular matches. The standard mightn't be as high as it would've been with county players but at least matches go on. Most people on here are thinking from a spectating point of view and think the games won't be worth watching without county players. I'm just saying that the non county players will be just happy getting regular games.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on January 20, 2018, 08:33:24 PM
Lenny is clearly a CB man or a big supporter of their approach as any club man can clearly see how our club football is being dismantled.

I personally feel clubs should take a stand and make a statement to our county board, maybe something as simple as boycott the Larkin Cup this season to see if they get the message, if the same shite is in situ next season boycott the league. How else can it be turned around, talking isn’t working as no one is listening

Maybe club members should boycott County games until the county board starts listening.  Its risky though, as no one may notice, given that i believe this is already happening with the attendances at these games.

What clubs should do is gain what other clubs are doing in other counties and petition the CPA to see what they think.

Maybe a general club strike throughout the country could be the way to operate?

A strike and a boycott?! That should ensure a lot of football?! 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on January 20, 2018, 09:30:05 PM
Lenny is clearly a CB man or a big supporter of their approach as any club man can clearly see how our club football is being dismantled.

I personally feel clubs should take a stand and make a statement to our county board, maybe something as simple as boycott the Larkin Cup this season to see if they get the message, if the same shite is in situ next season boycott the league. How else can it be turned around, talking isn’t working as no one is listening

Maybe club members should boycott County games until the county board starts listening.  Its risky though, as no one may notice, given that i believe this is already happening with the attendances at these games.

Has this not been the case?! :D
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: North Man on January 20, 2018, 10:22:03 PM
Folks let this proposed format have a chance.
IMO Stephen Barker is a progressive man, an intelligent man, with a vision of what clubs and club players needs.
He was playing club football last season and has played club football in the intermediate and junior grades throughout his career.
The changes made over the last couple of years to club games structuring, through his guidance have been generally well received .
Croporate Croke Park are not making things easy for the likes of the Stephen B's of Ireland.
Maybe folks here would want the Master back.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shantygael on January 21, 2018, 12:07:51 AM
Folks let this proposed format have a chance.
IMO Stephen Barker is a progressive man, an intelligent man, with a vision of what clubs and club players needs.
He was playing club football last season and has played club football in the intermediate and junior grades throughout his career.
The changes made over the last couple of years to club games structuring, through his guidance have been generally well received .
Croporate Croke Park are not making things easy for the likes of the Stephen B's of Ireland.
Maybe folks here would want the Master back.
A big no to that
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on January 22, 2018, 09:44:07 AM
Folks let this proposed format have a chance.
IMO Stephen Barker is a progressive man, an intelligent man, with a vision of what clubs and club players needs.
He was playing club football last season and has played club football in the intermediate and junior grades throughout his career.
The changes made over the last couple of years to club games structuring, through his guidance have been generally well received .
Croporate Croke Park are not making things easy for the likes of the Stephen B's of Ireland.
Maybe folks here would want the Master back.

Couldn't agree less.

It is clear that this is not being well received. It is utter nonsense to suggest that this will benefit club players, it completely flies in the face of any received wisdom to reduce the number of competitive games for clubs and then label this as in the interests of players. A recipe for even more lads to head off to America or elsewhere for the summer. Or take up another sport which will provide them with an odd game.

If these changes were in the best interests of clubs why were they not discussed at County Convention? Don't know Stephen Barker at all but have heard good reports about him. If you are reading this Stephen you have fumbled the ball with this one.

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on January 22, 2018, 09:57:53 AM
Folks let this proposed format have a chance.
IMO Stephen Barker is a progressive man, an intelligent man, with a vision of what clubs and club players needs.
He was playing club football last season and has played club football in the intermediate and junior grades throughout his career.
The changes made over the last couple of years to club games structuring, through his guidance have been generally well received .
Croporate Croke Park are not making things easy for the likes of the Stephen B's of Ireland.
Maybe folks here would want the Master back.

Couldn't agree less.

It is clear that this is not being well received. It is utter nonsense to suggest that this will benefit club players, it completely flies in the face of any received wisdom to reduce the number of competitive games for clubs and then label this as in the interests of players. A recipe for even more lads to head off to America or elsewhere for the summer. Or take up another sport which will provide them with an odd game.

If these changes were in the best interests of clubs why were they not discussed at County Convention? Don't know Stephen Barker at all but have heard good reports about him. If you are reading this Stephen you have fumbled the ball with this one.


I've spoken to numerous club players about this from multiple clubs and none of them seem as bothered by this as the posters on here. A few a bit more worried about relegation than they were but no mention of the number of fixtures. The one thing they did mention was why change the league but keep the number of championship teams the same? Surely if the county board are looking to make us more competitive in Ulster at Intermediate and Junior have Div 1 play senior, 2 play Intermediate and 3 play Junior (or 1A, 1B and 2 as I had heard they are being called).
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on January 22, 2018, 11:03:12 AM
Folks let this proposed format have a chance.
IMO Stephen Barker is a progressive man, an intelligent man, with a vision of what clubs and club players needs.
He was playing club football last season and has played club football in the intermediate and junior grades throughout his career.
The changes made over the last couple of years to club games structuring, through his guidance have been generally well received .
Croporate Croke Park are not making things easy for the likes of the Stephen B's of Ireland.
Maybe folks here would want the Master back.

Couldn't agree less.

It is clear that this is not being well received. It is utter nonsense to suggest that this will benefit club players, it completely flies in the face of any received wisdom to reduce the number of competitive games for clubs and then label this as in the interests of players. A recipe for even more lads to head off to America or elsewhere for the summer. Or take up another sport which will provide them with an odd game.

If these changes were in the best interests of clubs why were they not discussed at County Convention? Don't know Stephen Barker at all but have heard good reports about him. If you are reading this Stephen you have fumbled the ball with this one.


I've spoken to numerous club players about this from multiple clubs and none of them seem as bothered by this as the posters on here. A few a bit more worried about relegation than they were but no mention of the number of fixtures. The one thing they did mention was why change the league but keep the number of championship teams the same? Surely if the county board are looking to make us more competitive in Ulster at Intermediate and Junior have Div 1 play senior, 2 play Intermediate and 3 play Junior (or 1A, 1B and 2 as I had heard they are being called).

So you have spoken to a lot of people in a lot of clubs about this matter, sounds like you have conducted an impromptu survey, and a few of them are worried about relegation and all[?] of them are concerned that the championship numbers stay the same but none of them have any concerns about the number of games they get to play.

With scores like this on the bullshitometer you are definitely county board material lol
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on January 22, 2018, 12:02:19 PM
Folks let this proposed format have a chance.
IMO Stephen Barker is a progressive man, an intelligent man, with a vision of what clubs and club players needs.
He was playing club football last season and has played club football in the intermediate and junior grades throughout his career.
The changes made over the last couple of years to club games structuring, through his guidance have been generally well received .
Croporate Croke Park are not making things easy for the likes of the Stephen B's of Ireland.
Maybe folks here would want the Master back.

Couldn't agree less.

It is clear that this is not being well received. It is utter nonsense to suggest that this will benefit club players, it completely flies in the face of any received wisdom to reduce the number of competitive games for clubs and then label this as in the interests of players. A recipe for even more lads to head off to America or elsewhere for the summer. Or take up another sport which will provide them with an odd game.

If these changes were in the best interests of clubs why were they not discussed at County Convention? Don't know Stephen Barker at all but have heard good reports about him. If you are reading this Stephen you have fumbled the ball with this one.


I've spoken to numerous club players about this from multiple clubs and none of them seem as bothered by this as the posters on here. A few a bit more worried about relegation than they were but no mention of the number of fixtures. The one thing they did mention was why change the league but keep the number of championship teams the same? Surely if the county board are looking to make us more competitive in Ulster at Intermediate and Junior have Div 1 play senior, 2 play Intermediate and 3 play Junior (or 1A, 1B and 2 as I had heard they are being called).

So you have spoken to a lot of people in a lot of clubs about this matter, sounds like you have conducted an impromptu survey, and a few of them are worried about relegation and all[?] of them are concerned that the championship numbers stay the same but none of them have any concerns about the number of games they get to play.

With scores like this on the bullshitometer you are definitely county board material lol
Around ten people from a few clubs. No survey. A few were more worried about possible relegation, yes. No, only a couple mentioned the championship and league structures being different but I thought it was a valid point and so raised it. Correct, not one of the people I spoke to mentioned the number of games - Note, not all the players I spoke to play senior football (in fact the majority don't) and so the number of games would have been less of a factor due to the already smaller leagues in Div2 and 3. Perhaps the fact that the number of games in the coming season isn't changing and that's what they are focused on meant that it wasn't at the forefront of their mind. If you think I'm making stuff up to post on here then good luck to you but the views of the players that I spoke to at least haven't been represented on here.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on January 22, 2018, 02:36:37 PM
Well I am sure I don't need to conduct a survey about what the concerns of club players are as it has been well documented over the past few years. How these changes are a reflection of club players concerns is beyond me.

As I said earlier it will add to the number of people heading off for the summer or pursuing other sporting interests as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: thepundit on January 23, 2018, 12:55:07 PM
Firstly it is fair for everyone to be concerned about the massive break in the middle of the summer to facilitate the county players. a real kick in the teeth for the ordinary club player. This will especially affect division 2 and 3 where there are a small representation of players in the county panel. The restructuring of the leagues however provides a real exciting league campaign for the incoming season. In my opinion the league has become stale in the past number of seasons.  For this incoming season every game is do or die. As for the leagues starting in 2019.. Division one and two will be hugely competitive.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on January 23, 2018, 09:53:00 PM
Firstly it is fair for everyone to be concerned about the massive break in the middle of the summer to facilitate the county players. a real kick in the teeth for the ordinary club player. This will especially affect division 2 and 3 where there are a small representation of players in the county panel. The restructuring of the leagues however provides a real exciting league campaign for the incoming season. In my opinion the league has become stale in the past number of seasons.  For this incoming season every game is do or die. As for the leagues starting in 2019.. Division one and two will be hugely competitive.
Fancy a read?!
http://www.gaa.ie/news/county-boards-told-put-clubs-ahead-inter-county-managers/
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on January 24, 2018, 09:16:04 AM
The Club Players Association seem to think it's a great idea, "Well done Derry GAA" on their Facebook page with a link to an Irish News article on the new changes.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on January 24, 2018, 10:06:18 AM
The Club Players Association seem to think it's a great idea, "Well done Derry GAA" on their Facebook page with a link to an Irish News article on the new changes.

It seems on paper like a great idea. The players will love getting lots of games. It's a move which has put the players first. It'll be interesting to see how the season pans out. It's up to clubs now to embrace it and not be calling off games for the flimsiest of reasons.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on January 24, 2018, 11:22:02 AM
The Club Players Association seem to think it's a great idea, "Well done Derry GAA" on their Facebook page with a link to an Irish News article on the new changes.


Here is a C&P of the CPA fb post

Regular programme of meaningful competitive games for club players √ Meaningful competitive games....obviously this person has never attended a Larkin Cup or Kerlin Cup game, meaningful my hole

Inter-county players will be available to clubs for all league and championship games √    Yeah the league is rammed into 2 blocks and run off as quickly as possible to get it out of the way when there are no county games. There are no games at all during the summer other than Mickey Mouse cups, who is going to train all spring and summer for this.

CCC Chair meeting & consulting all clubs so they could provide feedback directly to him √  Why were these fundamental issues not addressed at Convention, very few clubs attended the CCC meeting, this was a fait accompli.


Well done Derry GAA.
“New plan looks like it will be a huge success, and strikes a long overdue blow for clubs.”   Sure anybody could speculate about this and say it was a great plan, whoever wrote this has very little knowledge of the Senior league football in Derry. If it read strikes a blow to clubs it might be a more accurate response. I guarantee you that this 'plan'will not last more than 2 seasons.



The article in the IN was by Cahair O'Kane [AFAIR] who admits himself he is looking at this from a Intermediate/Junior perspective


Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lavey on January 24, 2018, 01:34:14 PM
Test
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Josey Wales on January 24, 2018, 02:44:15 PM
CPA Derry representative - An ex County player for many years - He should never have been allowed to speak for club players in Derry given his heavy bias towards county football down the years
Barker and CCC - Over 2 months without a competitive game after the 1st week in May.  Fantastic work guys.
Barker and CCC - Reduction in league games from next year by 30%.  Fantastic work guys.   
Barker and CCC - Next to no reserve games in div 2 at present.  Drag another 4 clubs into the mix to miss out on reserve football from 2019. Fantastic work guys.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on January 24, 2018, 07:21:12 PM
Anyone post the master fixture programme?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on January 24, 2018, 09:32:09 PM
Stephen Barker has done a great job the last 2 years with the league and championship. Give it a chance. You'd be concerned with div 3 in 2019 with 4 intermediate teams being relegated. Could be a few bad beatings for a few years but it'll hopefully spur junior teams on.

Sure isn't the league only a warm up for the championship?  :D

Tickle, are the fixtures out?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: theticklemister on January 24, 2018, 10:43:34 PM
dunno, not privy to that knowledge JOG2
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on January 24, 2018, 10:45:28 PM
Stephen Barker has done a great job the last 2 years with the league and championship. Give it a chance. You'd be concerned with div 3 in 2019 with 4 intermediate teams being relegated. Could be a few bad beatings for a few years but it'll hopefully spur junior teams on.

Sure isn't the league only a warm up for the championship?  :D

Tickle, are the fixtures out?
I believe it is change for the right reasons and therefore is worth a try.  It is better to have games in that period in the summer time giving a few good reserve standard players an opportunity to play in the District Competitions.  More important id say than players/clubs not turning up for reserve games .  There is no doubt the County fixture list puts a new perspective on some of the reasons for these club fixture changes .... "nothing ventured - nothing gained"
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shantygael on January 24, 2018, 11:19:22 PM
No fixtures out yet,only the dates for each round.leagues start Wednesday 4th April as NFL finals on Easter weekend. Fixtures out within next fortnight, supposedly.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on January 25, 2018, 09:59:53 AM
Stephen Barker has done a great job the last 2 years with the league and championship. Give it a chance. You'd be concerned with div 3 in 2019 with 4 intermediate teams being relegated. Could be a few bad beatings for a few years but it'll hopefully spur junior teams on.

Sure isn't the league only a warm up for the championship?  :D

Tickle, are the fixtures out?
I believe it is change for the right reasons and therefore is worth a try.  It is better to have games in that period in the summer time giving a few good reserve standard players an opportunity to play in the District Competitions.  More important id say than players/clubs not turning up for reserve games .  There is no doubt the County fixture list puts a new perspective on some of the reasons for these club fixture changes .... "nothing ventured - nothing gained"


FFS what a load of waffle!! 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: RedandBlacks on January 25, 2018, 10:09:24 AM
Stephen Barker has done a great job the last 2 years with the league and championship. Give it a chance. You'd be concerned with div 3 in 2019 with 4 intermediate teams being relegated. Could be a few bad beatings for a few years but it'll hopefully spur junior teams on.

Sure isn't the league only a warm up for the championship?  :D

Tickle, are the fixtures out?

5 possiably 6 intermediate teams. Think its a bit of a drastic change to implement in one year.
There ll be a lot of squeaky bums in senior and intermediate. Should be a good season
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: braveheart on January 26, 2018, 10:41:03 PM
A strong Derry team named for Sunday. I hope the weather is as good as today so that we get a good turnout to support the team. A victory is very much needed
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mountain Gael on January 26, 2018, 11:07:38 PM
Wishing the derry management and players all the best for the coming season. Really do believe we will have a good one and first thing we can achieve is promotion from division3. Thought we were going to be light for the first few games but just after seeing team selection for sunday and i must say that is a very strong first 15 plus a few subs that will make a big difference. Have no doubt we will beat westmeath pretty handly and push on for a few bigger games which will decide our fate in the league. So again good luck to all involved and i hope we start were we left off last year when we could and should have beaten mayo down in mayo in the all ireland qualifiers.if we play like that no-one will beat us in the league. doire abu
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on January 26, 2018, 11:43:57 PM
One of the weakest defences I have in my 45 years following the Derry Senior Football team.  The Westmeath forward line has some very good footballers.  I just cant see how we can win this one.   Hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on January 27, 2018, 12:16:32 AM
Wishing the derry management and players all the best for the coming season. Really do believe we will have a good one and first thing we can achieve is promotion from division3. Thought we were going to be light for the first few games but just after seeing team selection for sunday and i must say that is a very strong first 15 plus a few subs that will make a big difference. Have no doubt we will beat westmeath pretty handly and push on for a few bigger games which will decide our fate in the league. So again good luck to all involved and i hope we start were we left off last year when we could and should have beaten mayo down in mayo in the all ireland qualifiers.if we play like that no-one will beat us in the league. doire abu
Are you happy enough with Kevin Johnston at fullback? How do you feel he did in the last game he played for Derry at fullback?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on January 28, 2018, 04:38:07 PM
Wishing the derry management and players all the best for the coming season. Really do believe we will have a good one and first thing we can achieve is promotion from division3. Thought we were going to be light for the first few games but just after seeing team selection for sunday and i must say that is a very strong first 15 plus a few subs that will make a big difference. Have no doubt we will beat westmeath pretty handly and push on for a few bigger games which will decide our fate in the league. So again good luck to all involved and i hope we start were we left off last year when we could and should have beaten mayo down in mayo in the all ireland qualifiers.if we play like that no-one will beat us in the league. doire abu
And that is the end of the "handy" win theory!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 28, 2018, 05:22:23 PM
We actually getting worse! Michael Bateson aside who had a great game!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Galer on January 28, 2018, 05:37:44 PM
Derry for div4?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on January 28, 2018, 05:39:43 PM
We actually getting worse! Michael Bateson aside who had a great game!
Took his two points well but needs to learn to tackle without fouling, as does McFaul, Mooney and McGoldrick.  Kielt very silly to get involved for his second yellow when we had an extra man.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on January 28, 2018, 06:41:04 PM
Derry for div4?

Wouldn’t have thought so but it’s a tough ask to get promotion now!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on January 28, 2018, 07:11:43 PM
We actually getting worse! Michael Bateson aside who had a great game!
Took his two points well but needs to learn to tackle without fouling, as does McFaul, Mooney and McGoldrick.  Kielt very silly to get involved for his second yellow when we had an extra man.

In football it's not whether a player fouls or not, it's whether the ref blows or not. In fairness to the players, the ref was both jeckle and hyde today!  There would be spells were he was whistle happy, then he'd let anything go for 10 minutes. Half the time he didn't play the advantage rule

Disappointed with that showing today. Far too many men blow hit and cold, can make a wonderful interception / tackle, then cough up possession with a ludicrous pass. And how often did we carry the ball needlessly into traffic and get turned over?

Bateson was good, as was Lynn. For 50 mins McAtamney was a real leader out there, but like so many others, he was consistently inconsistent.

3 home matches this year, 1 down. We're away to our bogey team next week who put up a big score against Offaly. We also have Fermanagh, Sligo  and Armagh away. Could be a tight enough league campaign! Westmeath were managing the game, time wise, from early in the first half playing against the wind. How many times was Lynn stopped illegally in his tracks? On the other hand we would near lay out the red carpet. We're far too nice not near cute enough.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on January 28, 2018, 08:47:26 PM
We actually getting worse! Michael Bateson aside who had a great game!
Took his two points well but needs to learn to tackle without fouling, as does McFaul, Mooney and McGoldrick.  Kielt very silly to get involved for his second yellow when we had an extra man.

In football it's not whether a player fouls or not, it's whether the ref blows or not. In fairness to the players, the ref was both jeckle and hyde today!  There would be spells were he was whistle happy, then he'd let anything go for 10 minutes. Half the time he didn't play the advantage rule

Disappointed with that showing today. Far too many men blow hit and cold, can make a wonderful interception / tackle, then cough up possession with a ludicrous pass. And how often did we carry the ball needlessly into traffic and get turned over?

Bateson was good, as was Lynn. For 50 mins McAtamney was a real leader out there, but like so many others, he was consistently inconsistent.

3 home matches this year, 1 down. We're away to our bogey team next week who put up a big score against Offaly. We also have Fermanagh, Sligo  and Armagh away. Could be a tight enough league campaign! Westmeath were managing the game, time wise, from early in the first half playing against the wind. How many times was Lynn stopped illegally in his tracks? On the other hand we would near lay out the red carpet. We're far too nice not near cute enough.


Cant believe their player John Heslin at No 11 was allowed the freedom of the park .... was their no homework done on this team at all.  Its also true to say that this was the first time this batch have played together but and then when the Slaugtneil men return it will be all change again.  The schedule of games is very tight so as I said in an earlier post 2018 is going to be a tough year
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shawshank on January 28, 2018, 09:51:26 PM
Seriously your surprised Heslin was given the freedom of the park, did you not watch the minor final, is Mc Kindless not a county standard man marker, sorry he wasn’t asked. Ffs don’t start me, I said I wasn’t going to do this
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TheOptimist on January 28, 2018, 10:08:56 PM
Had a thought today for all the talk on how county football affects the club's it's amazing actually how much club football affects the county in Derry. With slaughtneil and ballinderrys success over the years our county team is being held back and maybe wouldn't be a div 3 team otherwise. The sooner the two seasons don't overlap the better.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Mountain Gael on January 28, 2018, 10:50:00 PM
Wishing the derry management and players all the best for the coming season. Really do believe we will have a good one and first thing we can achieve is promotion from division3. Thought we were going to be light for the first few games but just after seeing team selection for sunday and i must say that is a very strong first 15 plus a few subs that will make a big difference. Have no doubt we will beat westmeath pretty handly and push on for a few bigger games which will decide our fate in the league. So again good luck to all involved and i hope we start were we left off last year when we could and should have beaten mayo down in mayo in the all ireland qualifiers.if we play like that no-one will beat us in the league. doire abu
Got it completely wrong, really thought we would start the season well. Maybe the less said the better on the performance. We should be winning games like this.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on January 28, 2018, 11:03:54 PM
The most disheartening is that I saw no development of a system of play in either McKenna Cup games or today. Very individual.  Few kick out options, even in club football you will have 4/5 players, at least, making runs or dummy runs.  At times today there may have been one player only making a meaningful run or none.  If the lack of any real strategy to get primary possession continues, there will be some fun when we meet a better team than Westmeath.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on January 28, 2018, 11:06:06 PM
Wishing the derry management and players all the best for the coming season. Really do believe we will have a good one and first thing we can achieve is promotion from division3. Thought we were going to be light for the first few games but just after seeing team selection for sunday and i must say that is a very strong first 15 plus a few subs that will make a big difference. Have no doubt we will beat westmeath pretty handly and push on for a few bigger games which will decide our fate in the league. So again good luck to all involved and i hope we start were we left off last year when we could and should have beaten mayo down in mayo in the all ireland qualifiers.if we play like that no-one will beat us in the league. doire abu
Got it completely wrong, really thought we would start the season well. Maybe the less said the better on the performance. We should be winning games like this.
Question for you. Why "should we be winning games like this"? 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Rawhide on January 28, 2018, 11:13:11 PM
Lads I want you to think of the players who are available outside of about 3  S’Neil players who ar certs I.e. C Mc Kaigue, S Mc Guinean, B Rogers. You could argue all day about a couple of others, but taking into account the unavailability of these players why then is Heavron, Mc Kindless, Bell not been invited. Have Derry ever been in Division 4? Some pressure on Mc Erlain now, he made these calls for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on January 28, 2018, 11:23:33 PM
I could be wrong but in the early 80's possibly  they could have been in the fourth Division for a year (not sure how bad but remember  things were far from good back then )
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Newbridge Exile on January 28, 2018, 11:30:34 PM
Think I was wrong it  was Div 3 they bottomed out at during the early 80's
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 29, 2018, 08:14:06 AM
Lads I want you to think of the players who are available outside of about 3  S’Neil players who ar certs I.e. C Mc Kaigue, S Mc Guinean, B Rogers. You could argue all day about a couple of others, but taking into account the unavailability of these players why then is Heavron, Mc Kindless, Bell not been invited. Have Derry ever been in Division 4? Some pressure on Mc Erlain now, he made these calls for whatever reason.

I would say Karl McKaigue is a cert to start aswell.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on January 29, 2018, 08:36:16 AM
Think I was wrong it  was Div 3 they bottomed out at during the early 80's

Derry were playing Div 2b football in 2004 against the likes of Waterford, Wicklow and Antrim. They only won 3 league games that year and were actually beaten by Wicklow in Aughrim.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on January 29, 2018, 10:19:37 AM
The hurling was good. The strength and conditioning and nutrition is working well
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TheOptimist on January 29, 2018, 11:38:14 AM
Think I was wrong it  was Div 3 they bottomed out at during the early 80's

Derry were playing Div 2b football in 2004 against the likes of Waterford, Wicklow and Antrim. They only won 3 league games that year and were actually beaten by Wicklow in Aughrim.

That's mad, considering we got to the AI Semi that year. I always remembered a league year like that but didn't know when it was, did we lose to Cavan in Celtic Park that year maybe (I have a vague memory).
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tbrick18 on January 29, 2018, 12:05:23 PM
Going on scoreline alone, our score would have won a lot of matches.
Defensively we are still all over the place. No kickout strategy and a lack of cohesion (albeit early days and minus the Slaughtneil defenders).
For any hope of promotion, we need to win all our remaining games I feel, which is a big ask.

I really don't understand the omission of Heavron, Bell etc. I'd love to hear an explanation from anyone close to these players or management.

Kielt sent off again. I do pick on him a bit on here, but he really does let the team down time and again with discipline and inconsistency on level of effort.

Not a promising start to the year or to McErlain's term in charge.  Doom and gloom on the first weekend of the league.

No doubt, come championship I'll still think we can pull something out of the bag. When will I learn though. lol.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 29, 2018, 12:52:06 PM
Going on scoreline alone, our score would have won a lot of matches.
Defensively we are still all over the place. No kickout strategy and a lack of cohesion (albeit early days and minus the Slaughtneil defenders).
For any hope of promotion, we need to win all our remaining games I feel, which is a big ask.

I really don't understand the omission of Heavron, Bell etc. I'd love to hear an explanation from anyone close to these players or management.

Kielt sent off again. I do pick on him a bit on here, but he really does let the team down time and again with discipline and inconsistency on level of effort.

Not a promising start to the year or to McErlain's term in charge.  Doom and gloom on the first weekend of the league.

No doubt, come championship I'll still think we can pull something out of the bag. When will I learn though. lol.


Personally I think we have no chance of promotion, but at the same time think we will have a bit too much to be relegated to division 4.

Could not make yesterdays game due to a family christening but had a fair idea from the team line up/three McKenna cup games I was at that Derry weren't going to get a result yesterday. Johnston is not a full back (Plays WHB/MF for his club), but at the same time when you look at the bench there is no real full back on the panel, this will be a big problem until the Slaughtneil men are back. Mooney, who also I rate highly and think will be a great addition to the county panel over the next few years is also not a corner back.

Damien McErlaine was nearly caught out last year in minor AI semi-final when he let the Dublin no.11 have the freedom of the park,  then in final gave Clifford acres of space. I feel he is defensively naïve. Westmeath scored 2-17 against us, a team that came up from division 4 last year, I worry for what waits for us further down the line if we don't get sorted defensively ASAP.


As for Heavron & Bell, I can tell you neither were asked to be apart of the panel this year.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on January 29, 2018, 01:20:04 PM
Going on scoreline alone, our score would have won a lot of matches.
Defensively we are still all over the place. No kickout strategy and a lack of cohesion (albeit early days and minus the Slaughtneil defenders).
For any hope of promotion, we need to win all our remaining games I feel, which is a big ask.

I really don't understand the omission of Heavron, Bell etc. I'd love to hear an explanation from anyone close to these players or management.

Kielt sent off again. I do pick on him a bit on here, but he really does let the team down time and again with discipline and inconsistency on level of effort.

Not a promising start to the year or to McErlain's term in charge.  Doom and gloom on the first weekend of the league.

No doubt, come championship I'll still think we can pull something out of the bag. When will I learn though. lol.


Personally I think we have no chance of promotion, but at the same time think we will have a bit too much to be relegated to division 4.

Could not make yesterdays game due to a family christening but had a fair idea from the team line up/three McKenna cup games I was at that Derry weren't going to get a result yesterday. Johnston is not a full back (Plays WHB/MF for his club), but at the same time when you look at the bench there is no real full back on the panel, this will be a big problem until the Slaughtneil men are back. Mooney, who also I rate highly and think will be a great addition to the county panel over the next few years is also not a corner back.

Damien McErlaine was nearly caught out last year in minor AI semi-final when he let the Dublin no.11 have the freedom of the park,  then in final gave Clifford acres of space. I feel he is defensively naïve. Westmeath scored 2-17 against us, a team that came up from division 4 last year, I worry for what waits for us further down the line if we don't get sorted defensively ASAP.


As for Heavron & Bell, I can tell you neither were asked to be apart of the panel this year.
This to me is as bad as his defensive naivety. Heavron has been one of the best, if not the best, player in the county this past few years and would walk on our first 15. Bell is good enough for at least a squad place too.

As posted above, what was scored would win us a lot of games and hopefully the Slaughtneil defenders coming back will boost our defense. Back line is weak looking at present with no real full back and not enough out and out defenders. Anyone know what the story is with D McBride, G McKinless and O Duffy? All not with Slaughtneil and could offer something, if available, in my opinion.

Anyway I think we'll stay in Division 3. Should have too much for Sligo, Offaly and Wexford without really threatening promotion either. Next game is important to get back on track, away to Longford who are somewhat of a bogie team for us.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on January 29, 2018, 02:26:07 PM
Going on scoreline alone, our score would have won a lot of matches.
Defensively we are still all over the place. No kickout strategy and a lack of cohesion (albeit early days and minus the Slaughtneil defenders).
For any hope of promotion, we need to win all our remaining games I feel, which is a big ask.

I really don't understand the omission of Heavron, Bell etc. I'd love to hear an explanation from anyone close to these players or management.

Kielt sent off again. I do pick on him a bit on here, but he really does let the team down time and again with discipline and inconsistency on level of effort.

Not a promising start to the year or to McErlain's term in charge.  Doom and gloom on the first weekend of the league.

No doubt, come championship I'll still think we can pull something out of the bag. When will I learn though. lol.


Personally I think we have no chance of promotion, but at the same time think we will have a bit too much to be relegated to division 4.

Could not make yesterdays game due to a family christening but had a fair idea from the team line up/three McKenna cup games I was at that Derry weren't going to get a result yesterday. Johnston is not a full back (Plays WHB/MF for his club), but at the same time when you look at the bench there is no real full back on the panel, this will be a big problem until the Slaughtneil men are back. Mooney, who also I rate highly and think will be a great addition to the county panel over the next few years is also not a corner back.

Damien McErlaine was nearly caught out last year in minor AI semi-final when he let the Dublin no.11 have the freedom of the park,  then in final gave Clifford acres of space. I feel he is defensively naïve. Westmeath scored 2-17 against us, a team that came up from division 4 last year, I worry for what waits for us further down the line if we don't get sorted defensively ASAP.


As for Heavron & Bell, I can tell you neither were asked to be apart of the panel this year.
This to me is as bad as his defensive naivety. Heavron has been one of the best, if not the best, player in the county this past few years and would walk on our first 15. Bell is good enough for at least a squad place too.

As posted above, what was scored would win us a lot of games and hopefully the Slaughtneil defenders coming back will boost our defense. Back line is weak looking at present with no real full back and not enough out and out defenders. Anyone know what the story is with D McBride, G McKinless and O Duffy? All not with Slaughtneil and could offer something, if available, in my opinion.

Anyway I think we'll stay in Division 3. Should have too much for Sligo, Offaly and Wexford without really threatening promotion either. Next game is important to get back on track, away to Longford who are somewhat of a bogie team for us.

Dermot McBride is riddled with knee problems and has a hard time maintaining fitness because of this. No idea what the story is with Danny Heavron? Can anyone shed light on whether there was a fall out? Has to have been a reason other than footballing matters, because he's a class act and would walk onto the team as previously mentioned.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 29, 2018, 02:48:58 PM
Going on scoreline alone, our score would have won a lot of matches.
Defensively we are still all over the place. No kickout strategy and a lack of cohesion (albeit early days and minus the Slaughtneil defenders).
For any hope of promotion, we need to win all our remaining games I feel, which is a big ask.

I really don't understand the omission of Heavron, Bell etc. I'd love to hear an explanation from anyone close to these players or management.

Kielt sent off again. I do pick on him a bit on here, but he really does let the team down time and again with discipline and inconsistency on level of effort.

Not a promising start to the year or to McErlain's term in charge.  Doom and gloom on the first weekend of the league.

No doubt, come championship I'll still think we can pull something out of the bag. When will I learn though. lol.


Personally I think we have no chance of promotion, but at the same time think we will have a bit too much to be relegated to division 4.

Could not make yesterdays game due to a family christening but had a fair idea from the team line up/three McKenna cup games I was at that Derry weren't going to get a result yesterday. Johnston is not a full back (Plays WHB/MF for his club), but at the same time when you look at the bench there is no real full back on the panel, this will be a big problem until the Slaughtneil men are back. Mooney, who also I rate highly and think will be a great addition to the county panel over the next few years is also not a corner back.

Damien McErlaine was nearly caught out last year in minor AI semi-final when he let the Dublin no.11 have the freedom of the park,  then in final gave Clifford acres of space. I feel he is defensively naïve. Westmeath scored 2-17 against us, a team that came up from division 4 last year, I worry for what waits for us further down the line if we don't get sorted defensively ASAP.


As for Heavron & Bell, I can tell you neither were asked to be apart of the panel this year.
This to me is as bad as his defensive naivety. Heavron has been one of the best, if not the best, player in the county this past few years and would walk on our first 15. Bell is good enough for at least a squad place too.

As posted above, what was scored would win us a lot of games and hopefully the Slaughtneil defenders coming back will boost our defense. Back line is weak looking at present with no real full back and not enough out and out defenders. Anyone know what the story is with D McBride, G McKinless and O Duffy? All not with Slaughtneil and could offer something, if available, in my opinion.

Anyway I think we'll stay in Division 3. Should have too much for Sligo, Offaly and Wexford without really threatening promotion either. Next game is important to get back on track, away to Longford who are somewhat of a bogie team for us.

Dermot McBride is riddled with knee problems and has a hard time maintaining fitness because of this. No idea what the story is with Danny Heavron? Can anyone shed light on whether there was a fall out? Has to have been a reason other than footballing matters, because he's a class act and would walk onto the team as previously mentioned.

Heavron was never asked up or named on the initial training panel at the start of the season, he had received no contact from management at all regarding his situation. He then received a phone call from Damien McErlaine about a month later saying he was not in his plans this year because he could not find a position for him on the team and he was going with a youthful panel.

I am led to believe (from a very close & reliable source) that Heavron and McErlaine have never fallen out at club level and there is no previous rift between the two and that phone call is the only contact the two have had since McErlaine has taken the senior post. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on January 29, 2018, 03:31:53 PM
Going on scoreline alone, our score would have won a lot of matches.
Defensively we are still all over the place. No kickout strategy and a lack of cohesion (albeit early days and minus the Slaughtneil defenders).
For any hope of promotion, we need to win all our remaining games I feel, which is a big ask.

I really don't understand the omission of Heavron, Bell etc. I'd love to hear an explanation from anyone close to these players or management.

Kielt sent off again. I do pick on him a bit on here, but he really does let the team down time and again with discipline and inconsistency on level of effort.

Not a promising start to the year or to McErlain's term in charge.  Doom and gloom on the first weekend of the league.

No doubt, come championship I'll still think we can pull something out of the bag. When will I learn though. lol.


Personally I think we have no chance of promotion, but at the same time think we will have a bit too much to be relegated to division 4.

Could not make yesterdays game due to a family christening but had a fair idea from the team line up/three McKenna cup games I was at that Derry weren't going to get a result yesterday. Johnston is not a full back (Plays WHB/MF for his club), but at the same time when you look at the bench there is no real full back on the panel, this will be a big problem until the Slaughtneil men are back. Mooney, who also I rate highly and think will be a great addition to the county panel over the next few years is also not a corner back.

Damien McErlaine was nearly caught out last year in minor AI semi-final when he let the Dublin no.11 have the freedom of the park,  then in final gave Clifford acres of space. I feel he is defensively naïve. Westmeath scored 2-17 against us, a team that came up from division 4 last year, I worry for what waits for us further down the line if we don't get sorted defensively ASAP.


As for Heavron & Bell, I can tell you neither were asked to be apart of the panel this year.
This to me is as bad as his defensive naivety. Heavron has been one of the best, if not the best, player in the county this past few years and would walk on our first 15. Bell is good enough for at least a squad place too.

As posted above, what was scored would win us a lot of games and hopefully the Slaughtneil defenders coming back will boost our defense. Back line is weak looking at present with no real full back and not enough out and out defenders. Anyone know what the story is with D McBride, G McKinless and O Duffy? All not with Slaughtneil and could offer something, if available, in my opinion.

Anyway I think we'll stay in Division 3. Should have too much for Sligo, Offaly and Wexford without really threatening promotion either. Next game is important to get back on track, away to Longford who are somewhat of a bogie team for us.

Dermot McBride is riddled with knee problems and has a hard time maintaining fitness because of this. No idea what the story is with Danny Heavron? Can anyone shed light on whether there was a fall out? Has to have been a reason other than footballing matters, because he's a class act and would walk onto the team as previously mentioned.

Heavron was never asked up or named on the initial training panel at the start of the season, he had received no contact from management at all regarding his situation. He then received a phone call from Damien McErlaine about a month later saying he was not in his plans this year because he could not find a position for him on the team and he was going with a youthful panel.

I am led to believe (from a very close & reliable source) that Heavron and McErlaine have never fallen out at club level and there is no previous rift between the two and that phone call is the only contact the two have had since McErlaine has taken the senior post.
Worrying
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on January 29, 2018, 03:44:50 PM
Going on scoreline alone, our score would have won a lot of matches.
Defensively we are still all over the place. No kickout strategy and a lack of cohesion (albeit early days and minus the Slaughtneil defenders).
For any hope of promotion, we need to win all our remaining games I feel, which is a big ask.

I really don't understand the omission of Heavron, Bell etc. I'd love to hear an explanation from anyone close to these players or management.

Kielt sent off again. I do pick on him a bit on here, but he really does let the team down time and again with discipline and inconsistency on level of effort.

Not a promising start to the year or to McErlain's term in charge.  Doom and gloom on the first weekend of the league.

No doubt, come championship I'll still think we can pull something out of the bag. When will I learn though. lol.


Personally I think we have no chance of promotion, but at the same time think we will have a bit too much to be relegated to division 4.

Could not make yesterdays game due to a family christening but had a fair idea from the team line up/three McKenna cup games I was at that Derry weren't going to get a result yesterday. Johnston is not a full back (Plays WHB/MF for his club), but at the same time when you look at the bench there is no real full back on the panel, this will be a big problem until the Slaughtneil men are back. Mooney, who also I rate highly and think will be a great addition to the county panel over the next few years is also not a corner back.

Damien McErlaine was nearly caught out last year in minor AI semi-final when he let the Dublin no.11 have the freedom of the park,  then in final gave Clifford acres of space. I feel he is defensively naïve. Westmeath scored 2-17 against us, a team that came up from division 4 last year, I worry for what waits for us further down the line if we don't get sorted defensively ASAP.


As for Heavron & Bell, I can tell you neither were asked to be apart of the panel this year.
This to me is as bad as his defensive naivety. Heavron has been one of the best, if not the best, player in the county this past few years and would walk on our first 15. Bell is good enough for at least a squad place too.

As posted above, what was scored would win us a lot of games and hopefully the Slaughtneil defenders coming back will boost our defense. Back line is weak looking at present with no real full back and not enough out and out defenders. Anyone know what the story is with D McBride, G McKinless and O Duffy? All not with Slaughtneil and could offer something, if available, in my opinion.

Anyway I think we'll stay in Division 3. Should have too much for Sligo, Offaly and Wexford without really threatening promotion either. Next game is important to get back on track, away to Longford who are somewhat of a bogie team for us.

Dermot McBride is riddled with knee problems and has a hard time maintaining fitness because of this. No idea what the story is with Danny Heavron? Can anyone shed light on whether there was a fall out? Has to have been a reason other than footballing matters, because he's a class act and would walk onto the team as previously mentioned.

Heavron was never asked up or named on the initial training panel at the start of the season, he had received no contact from management at all regarding his situation. He then received a phone call from Damien McErlaine about a month later saying he was not in his plans this year because he could not find a position for him on the team and he was going with a youthful panel.

I am led to believe (from a very close & reliable source) that Heavron and McErlaine have never fallen out at club level and there is no previous rift between the two and that phone call is the only contact the two have had since McErlaine has taken the senior post.

that's gospel
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shawshank on January 29, 2018, 03:56:27 PM
That's tara, and really casts a serious shadow over Mc Erlaines judgement
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TheOptimist on January 29, 2018, 03:56:54 PM
Going on scoreline alone, our score would have won a lot of matches.
Defensively we are still all over the place. No kickout strategy and a lack of cohesion (albeit early days and minus the Slaughtneil defenders).
For any hope of promotion, we need to win all our remaining games I feel, which is a big ask.

I really don't understand the omission of Heavron, Bell etc. I'd love to hear an explanation from anyone close to these players or management.

Kielt sent off again. I do pick on him a bit on here, but he really does let the team down time and again with discipline and inconsistency on level of effort.

Not a promising start to the year or to McErlain's term in charge.  Doom and gloom on the first weekend of the league.

No doubt, come championship I'll still think we can pull something out of the bag. When will I learn though. lol.


Personally I think we have no chance of promotion, but at the same time think we will have a bit too much to be relegated to division 4.

Could not make yesterdays game due to a family christening but had a fair idea from the team line up/three McKenna cup games I was at that Derry weren't going to get a result yesterday. Johnston is not a full back (Plays WHB/MF for his club), but at the same time when you look at the bench there is no real full back on the panel, this will be a big problem until the Slaughtneil men are back. Mooney, who also I rate highly and think will be a great addition to the county panel over the next few years is also not a corner back.

Damien McErlaine was nearly caught out last year in minor AI semi-final when he let the Dublin no.11 have the freedom of the park,  then in final gave Clifford acres of space. I feel he is defensively naïve. Westmeath scored 2-17 against us, a team that came up from division 4 last year, I worry for what waits for us further down the line if we don't get sorted defensively ASAP.


As for Heavron & Bell, I can tell you neither were asked to be apart of the panel this year.
This to me is as bad as his defensive naivety. Heavron has been one of the best, if not the best, player in the county this past few years and would walk on our first 15. Bell is good enough for at least a squad place too.

As posted above, what was scored would win us a lot of games and hopefully the Slaughtneil defenders coming back will boost our defense. Back line is weak looking at present with no real full back and not enough out and out defenders. Anyone know what the story is with D McBride, G McKinless and O Duffy? All not with Slaughtneil and could offer something, if available, in my opinion.

Anyway I think we'll stay in Division 3. Should have too much for Sligo, Offaly and Wexford without really threatening promotion either. Next game is important to get back on track, away to Longford who are somewhat of a bogie team for us.

Dermot McBride is riddled with knee problems and has a hard time maintaining fitness because of this. No idea what the story is with Danny Heavron? Can anyone shed light on whether there was a fall out? Has to have been a reason other than footballing matters, because he's a class act and would walk onto the team as previously mentioned.

Heavron was never asked up or named on the initial training panel at the start of the season, he had received no contact from management at all regarding his situation. He then received a phone call from Damien McErlaine about a month later saying he was not in his plans this year because he could not find a position for him on the team and he was going with a youthful panel.

I am led to believe (from a very close & reliable source) that Heavron and McErlaine have never fallen out at club level and there is no previous rift between the two and that phone call is the only contact the two have had since McErlaine has taken the senior post.

that's gospel

Its the third different version of the story that I have heard now!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: shawshank on January 29, 2018, 04:01:20 PM
regardless of whatever version, they have had no fall out over Derry football as they haven't worked together previously at senior club or county, its about whats best for Derry, end of. 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tbrick18 on January 29, 2018, 05:02:47 PM
Jesus.
The youthful argument doesnt stand with Lynch still on the panel.
Heavron could play in defence or attack....how they couldnt find a place for him on the team I do not know.
IF this version is true, we are in trouble as that is a seriously bad judgement call.

Dermot McBride plagued by injuries, I dont know if he'll ever be back at the level he was at. But his presence is definitely missed.
From a screen point of view, Carlus McWilliams and Benny Heron still to come back in, both injured or recovering from injuries as far as I know.
Carlus could strengthen the half back line.

I know there is not 1 team in Div 3 I could say we would definately beat. That's a worry. But, it's the level we are at regardless of reasons behind why we are there.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 29, 2018, 06:47:06 PM
Danny H could play at 6; or wing forward or corner forward playing as sweeper! To be honest on yesterday performance he could have picked his spot! He within the best 6-7 players in Derry over past 2-3yrs!  Their def aint 24 lads in front of him@ same goes for Bell; McKinless; too!  Its been 10yrs since a manager actually picked the best players in the county or had them wanting to play for him! I rather see Derry go with the best players on offer for the county now!  Our 5 and 3yrs plan for teams having been going on 10yrs and we are actually getting worse! We played in a Division 1 final just 4yrs ago; so i like to think we can inspire to get out of div 3!! On another matter; you think we hadnt heard of John Heslin the way he wasnt man marked yesterday!! I see a theme starting to emerge there with the opposition danger men!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: South Derry fan on January 29, 2018, 06:53:44 PM
To pick a panel of only 29 player's for the season ahead knowing you where going to be missing the  Slaughtneil/University players for McKenna cup and possibly the most of the league in Slaughtneil's case was daft at best. Closing the door on experienced inter county players and thinking that filling out your squad with u20s is going to work in a competitive div 3 is also questionable. To hear that Danny Heavron was told they couldn't find a place for him is laughable. But as its still only January we need to give the new management team a chance and get behind them in the up coming games and pass judgement at the end of the season. Just a thought Here's a few names that certainly could help the current panel
O Duffy.
D McBride.         
Sean Leo.
G McKinless.   
N Holly. 
R Bell.   
D Heavron.
E McGuckin.
C O'Boyle
   
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TheOptimist on January 29, 2018, 06:54:02 PM
Going on scoreline alone, our score would have won a lot of matches.
Defensively we are still all over the place. No kickout strategy and a lack of cohesion (albeit early days and minus the Slaughtneil defenders).
For any hope of promotion, we need to win all our remaining games I feel, which is a big ask.

I really don't understand the omission of Heavron, Bell etc. I'd love to hear an explanation from anyone close to these players or management.

Kielt sent off again. I do pick on him a bit on here, but he really does let the team down time and again with discipline and inconsistency on level of effort.

Not a promising start to the year or to McErlain's term in charge.  Doom and gloom on the first weekend of the league.

No doubt, come championship I'll still think we can pull something out of the bag. When will I learn though. lol.


Personally I think we have no chance of promotion, but at the same time think we will have a bit too much to be relegated to division 4.

Could not make yesterdays game due to a family christening but had a fair idea from the team line up/three McKenna cup games I was at that Derry weren't going to get a result yesterday. Johnston is not a full back (Plays WHB/MF for his club), but at the same time when you look at the bench there is no real full back on the panel, this will be a big problem until the Slaughtneil men are back. Mooney, who also I rate highly and think will be a great addition to the county panel over the next few years is also not a corner back.

Damien McErlaine was nearly caught out last year in minor AI semi-final when he let the Dublin no.11 have the freedom of the park,
then in final gave Clifford acres of space. I feel he is defensively naïve. Westmeath scored 2-17 against us, a team that came up from division 4 last year, I worry for what waits for us further down the line if we don't get sorted defensively ASAP.


As for Heavron & Bell, I can tell you neither were asked to be apart of the panel this year.

We beat Dublin in Croke Park. The tactics worked that day.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 29, 2018, 07:07:34 PM
The tactics didnt work; we got on top of Dublin last 10mins but it was all playing 1 on 1;  and just got the better of them; mainly through the mcwilliam brothers and big brown! no 11 scored 6 from play and if he wasnt such a greedy bollix missing 3 or 4 when other players were in better position we been beat!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TheOptimist on January 29, 2018, 08:07:02 PM
The tactics didnt work; we got on top of Dublin last 10mins but it was all playing 1 on 1;  and just got the better of them; mainly through the mcwilliam brothers and big brown! no 11 scored 6 from play and if he wasnt such a greedy bollix missing 3 or 4 when other players were in better position we been beat!

We outscored the opposition! Joe Brolly has a point this week!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on January 29, 2018, 09:09:35 PM
The tactics didnt work; we got on top of Dublin last 10mins but it was all playing 1 on 1;  and just got the better of them; mainly through the mcwilliam brothers and big brown! no 11 scored 6 from play and if he wasnt such a greedy bollix missing 3 or 4 when other players were in better position we been beat!

Christ, you even moan in a victory over the Dubs!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 29, 2018, 09:22:01 PM
Going on scoreline alone, our score would have won a lot of matches.
Defensively we are still all over the place. No kickout strategy and a lack of cohesion (albeit early days and minus the Slaughtneil defenders).
For any hope of promotion, we need to win all our remaining games I feel, which is a big ask.

I really don't understand the omission of Heavron, Bell etc. I'd love to hear an explanation from anyone close to these players or management.

Kielt sent off again. I do pick on him a bit on here, but he really does let the team down time and again with discipline and inconsistency on level of effort.

Not a promising start to the year or to McErlain's term in charge.  Doom and gloom on the first weekend of the league.

No doubt, come championship I'll still think we can pull something out of the bag. When will I learn though. lol.


Personally I think we have no chance of promotion, but at the same time think we will have a bit too much to be relegated to division 4.

Could not make yesterdays game due to a family christening but had a fair idea from the team line up/three McKenna cup games I was at that Derry weren't going to get a result yesterday. Johnston is not a full back (Plays WHB/MF for his club), but at the same time when you look at the bench there is no real full back on the panel, this will be a big problem until the Slaughtneil men are back. Mooney, who also I rate highly and think will be a great addition to the county panel over the next few years is also not a corner back.

Damien McErlaine was nearly caught out last year in minor AI semi-final when he let the Dublin no.11 have the freedom of the park,
then in final gave Clifford acres of space. I feel he is defensively naïve. Westmeath scored 2-17 against us, a team that came up from division 4 last year, I worry for what waits for us further down the line if we don't get sorted defensively ASAP.


As for Heavron & Bell, I can tell you neither were asked to be apart of the panel this year.

We beat Dublin in Croke Park. The tactics worked that day.

We got by Dublin, we didn’t learn our lessons and we played our part in the most one sided all Ireland minor final in years.

Also on your point of hearing 3 versions of why Heavron is not on the county panel. Go through my posts, I don’t make stuff up. I have sources close to the panel and know for sure that heavron was given 1)youthful panel approach & 2) no position for him as the two reasons for not being asked up. Come back to me if you have another story that you think is correct, from a proven source.

Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on January 29, 2018, 09:32:53 PM
The tactics didnt work; we got on top of Dublin last 10mins but it was all playing 1 on 1;  and just got the better of them; mainly through the mcwilliam brothers and big brown! no 11 scored 6 from play and if he wasnt such a greedy bollix missing 3 or 4 when other players were in better position we been beat!

Christ, you even moan in a victory over the Dubs!
May be, but he is correct. But for greed, Dublin would have had two/three goals by halftime. I saw very little in way of tactics from Derry yesterday, no continuity even in who was taking the frees. Sometimes it was under age stuff, I will take this one, please! 
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 29, 2018, 09:36:46 PM
Not moaning; pointing out tactics didnt beat Dublin!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on January 29, 2018, 09:39:59 PM
Not moaning; pointing out tactics didnt beat Dublin!

Coulda shoulda woulda, Derry beat Dublin, that's the bottom line. Without Mackers stepping up we could well of had another reck of years in the minor doldrums

You're never done moaning sir! Smile and the world will smile with ye!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on January 30, 2018, 10:46:45 AM
Going on scoreline alone, our score would have won a lot of matches.
Defensively we are still all over the place. No kickout strategy and a lack of cohesion (albeit early days and minus the Slaughtneil defenders).
For any hope of promotion, we need to win all our remaining games I feel, which is a big ask.

I really don't understand the omission of Heavron, Bell etc. I'd love to hear an explanation from anyone close to these players or management.

Kielt sent off again. I do pick on him a bit on here, but he really does let the team down time and again with discipline and inconsistency on level of effort.

Not a promising start to the year or to McErlain's term in charge.  Doom and gloom on the first weekend of the league.

No doubt, come championship I'll still think we can pull something out of the bag. When will I learn though. lol.


Personally I think we have no chance of promotion, but at the same time think we will have a bit too much to be relegated to division 4.

Could not make yesterdays game due to a family christening but had a fair idea from the team line up/three McKenna cup games I was at that Derry weren't going to get a result yesterday. Johnston is not a full back (Plays WHB/MF for his club), but at the same time when you look at the bench there is no real full back on the panel, this will be a big problem until the Slaughtneil men are back. Mooney, who also I rate highly and think will be a great addition to the county panel over the next few years is also not a corner back.

Damien McErlaine was nearly caught out last year in minor AI semi-final when he let the Dublin no.11 have the freedom of the park,  then in final gave Clifford acres of space. I feel he is defensively naïve. Westmeath scored 2-17 against us, a team that came up from division 4 last year, I worry for what waits for us further down the line if we don't get sorted defensively ASAP.


As for Heavron & Bell, I can tell you neither were asked to be apart of the panel this year.
This to me is as bad as his defensive naivety. Heavron has been one of the best, if not the best, player in the county this past few years and would walk on our first 15. Bell is good enough for at least a squad place too.

As posted above, what was scored would win us a lot of games and hopefully the Slaughtneil defenders coming back will boost our defense. Back line is weak looking at present with no real full back and not enough out and out defenders. Anyone know what the story is with D McBride, G McKinless and O Duffy? All not with Slaughtneil and could offer something, if available, in my opinion.

Anyway I think we'll stay in Division 3. Should have too much for Sligo, Offaly and Wexford without really threatening promotion either. Next game is important to get back on track, away to Longford who are somewhat of a bogie team for us.

Dermot McBride is riddled with knee problems and has a hard time maintaining fitness because of this. No idea what the story is with Danny Heavron? Can anyone shed light on whether there was a fall out? Has to have been a reason other than footballing matters, because he's a class act and would walk onto the team as previously mentioned.

Heavron was never asked up or named on the initial training panel at the start of the season, he had received no contact from management at all regarding his situation. He then received a phone call from Damien McErlaine about a month later saying he was not in his plans this year because he could not find a position for him on the team and he was going with a youthful panel.

I am led to believe (from a very close & reliable source) that Heavron and McErlaine have never fallen out at club level and there is no previous rift between the two and that phone call is the only contact the two have had since McErlaine has taken the senior post.

Christ. You have to hope that Damien knows what he's doing.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: seanyb1 on January 30, 2018, 11:45:49 AM
The lightness of his squad has led to heightened questioning of the decision not to pick Danny Heavron and Emmett McGuckin as part of his panel. Asked why they had been left out, McErlain replied: “I picked a panel and those two lads weren’t on it.”

just picked this out of Irish news today. Has come from the man himself! http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2018/01/30/news/mcerlain-backs-releasing-players-to-clubs-1244465/
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Estimator on January 30, 2018, 12:20:35 PM
In fairness, its the manager’s prerogative to select the players that he wants for his squad.  In the same manner if a player decides that county football isn’t for them, they make themselves unavailable, like so many players did last year.  The difference being the players won’t get held to account for their decision, but the manager definitely will. 

Predicting the future, I can see posters still going on about this and the manager having to answer questions about this come C’Ship time.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 30, 2018, 12:37:04 PM
In fairness, its the manager’s prerogative to select the players that he wants for his squad.  In the same manner if a player decides that county football isn’t for them, they make themselves unavailable, like so many players did last year.  The difference being the players won’t get held to account for their decision, but the manager definitely will. 

Predicting the future, I can see posters still going on about this and the manager having to answer questions about this come C’Ship time.

And rightly so. Losing to Westmeath and coming out a day or two later talking about the small panel he has when he dropped his best player. Then when asked for a reason he comes out with that arrogant dung.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TheOptimist on January 30, 2018, 01:03:46 PM
In fairness, its the manager’s prerogative to select the players that he wants for his squad.  In the same manner if a player decides that county football isn’t for them, they make themselves unavailable, like so many players did last year.  The difference being the players won’t get held to account for their decision, but the manager definitely will. 

Predicting the future, I can see posters still going on about this and the manager having to answer questions about this come C’Ship time.

And rightly so. Losing to Westmeath and coming out a day or two later talking about the small panel he has when he dropped his best player. Then when asked for a reason he comes out with that arrogant dung.

I don't remember Heavron setting the world alight last year. He opted out then in, we got relegated, and he never hit the heights of the previous year!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: scallywag on January 30, 2018, 01:16:36 PM
I've set back and watched the comments on here and it's no wonder Derry are in the situation there in!
They have a fella from moneymore, yes moneymore incharge of fixtures,my god!!
We have a fella who is the manager because the big names pointed out what they wanred/needed till try and get the team out off div 3,and county board said no!!
Damien will not get three years,poor fella being led up the path, laughing stock in Ulster at the moment.
How many teams in Ireland actually fear play the likes of Fermanagh!!!that's how far we have falling because off a board who hasn't a clue!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 30, 2018, 01:33:45 PM
In fairness, its the manager’s prerogative to select the players that he wants for his squad.  In the same manner if a player decides that county football isn’t for them, they make themselves unavailable, like so many players did last year.  The difference being the players won’t get held to account for their decision, but the manager definitely will. 

Predicting the future, I can see posters still going on about this and the manager having to answer questions about this come C’Ship time.

And rightly so. Losing to Westmeath and coming out a day or two later talking about the small panel he has when he dropped his best player. Then when asked for a reason he comes out with that arrogant dung.

I don't remember Heavron setting the world alight last year. He opted out then in, we got relegated, and he never hit the heights of the previous year!

Is he good enough to walk into the Derry team on Sunday? Yes he is.  I rest my case.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on January 30, 2018, 01:56:28 PM
In fairness, its the manager’s prerogative to select the players that he wants for his squad.  In the same manner if a player decides that county football isn’t for them, they make themselves unavailable, like so many players did last year.  The difference being the players won’t get held to account for their decision, but the manager definitely will. 

Predicting the future, I can see posters still going on about this and the manager having to answer questions about this come C’Ship time.

And rightly so. Losing to Westmeath and coming out a day or two later talking about the small panel he has when he dropped his best player. Then when asked for a reason he comes out with that arrogant dung.

I don't remember Heavron setting the world alight last year. He opted out then in, we got relegated, and he never hit the heights of the previous year!

Who in a Derry shirt did set the world alight? Heavron was one of our better players against Tyrone, and was one of our top 3 performers in the 2 qualifying matches. Absolute madness not to have himself, Bell, McGuckin and Sean Leo in the squad imo. I'd also have G McKindless, as we're severely lacking any divilment ! But, it's Macker's call and we'll have to get out and show our support for the year
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: screenexile on January 30, 2018, 01:59:15 PM
I've set back and watched the comments on here and it's no wonder Derry are in the situation there in!
They have a fella from moneymore, yes moneymore incharge of fixtures,my god!!
We have a fella who is the manager because the big names pointed out what they wanred/needed till try and get the team out off div 3,and county board said no!!
Damien will not get three years,poor fella being led up the path, laughing stock in Ulster at the moment.
How many teams in Ireland actually fear play the likes of Fermanagh!!!that's how far we have falling because off a board who hasn't a clue!

OK I'll bite . . .what has Moneymore got to do with anything??!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: TheOptimist on January 30, 2018, 02:12:02 PM
In fairness, its the manager’s prerogative to select the players that he wants for his squad.  In the same manner if a player decides that county football isn’t for them, they make themselves unavailable, like so many players did last year.  The difference being the players won’t get held to account for their decision, but the manager definitely will. 

Predicting the future, I can see posters still going on about this and the manager having to answer questions about this come C’Ship time.

And rightly so. Losing to Westmeath and coming out a day or two later talking about the small panel he has when he dropped his best player. Then when asked for a reason he comes out with that arrogant dung.

I don't remember Heavron setting the world alight last year. He opted out then in, we got relegated, and he never hit the heights of the previous year!

Who in a Derry shirt did set the world alight? Heavron was one of our better players against Tyrone, and was one of our top 3 performers in the 2 qualifying matches. Absolute madness not to have himself, Bell, McGuckin and Sean Leo in the squad imo. I'd also have G McKindless, as we're severely lacking any divilment ! But, it's Macker's call and we'll have to get out and show our support for the year

I know you are right really, but I believe in respecting the managers call. He didn't make the decision for no reason.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: scallywag on January 30, 2018, 02:31:36 PM
If you want the best for your county you go till the best clubs and pick there best men who know what it takes till be the best!!!
We have a lad from moneymore and a lad from drummullan (don't no if he is still involved),now need I go on!!! peanuts and monkeys come till mind!!
SHAMBLES
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Keyser soze on January 30, 2018, 03:52:22 PM
Couldn't agree more Scally. Historically Bellaghy are the most successful club so only they should make up the county board.

Or maybe it should be comprised solely of 'Neilers as they are currently head and shoulders above anything else in Derry.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: tbrick18 on January 30, 2018, 04:16:03 PM
I've set back and watched the comments on here and it's no wonder Derry are in the situation there in!
They have a fella from moneymore, yes moneymore incharge of fixtures,my god!!
We have a fella who is the manager because the big names pointed out what they wanred/needed till try and get the team out off div 3,and county board said no!!
Damien will not get three years,poor fella being led up the path, laughing stock in Ulster at the moment.
How many teams in Ireland actually fear play the likes of Fermanagh!!!that's how far we have falling because off a board who hasn't a clue!

I cant believe there are complaints about a county board member because of where he is from!
Pure nonsense.

I can see through it if the complaint was specifically about something a person has or hasn't done, but come on.....basically the comment is saying that Barker isnt fit for a job as he's from Moneymore. It's just a ridiculous notion. I hope you're not in any position where you are responsible for employing people.

As for McErlain and his comments about picking a panel, its an awkward one to answer truthfully, but that answer was arrogant.
He has now put himself in a difficult position I think. Even if he does think he made a mistake omitting them, he possibly feels now that he can't back track or he'll look weak. Personally, I think the guys mentioned in the article should have been some of the first players to get picked. I sense there is more to this story than has been made public.

Its really difficult to motivate Derry fans to attend games at the best of times, but when we see that our best players (in my opinion) are not going to be playing what are we going to watch? A group of guys just out of minors who are out of their depth a bit with no experience around them to help bring them on. Its unfair on those new guys as well to expect so much from them without the relative stability of players who have been around for a few years and know the craic. I know its very early days, but things seem to be a shambles this year already.

I really worry for Derry at the minute. I can see us drifting further and further away in terms of being competitive.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on January 30, 2018, 05:55:36 PM
I've set back and watched the comments on here and it's no wonder Derry are in the situation there in!
They have a fella from moneymore, yes moneymore incharge of fixtures,my god!!
We have a fella who is the manager because the big names pointed out what they wanred/needed till try and get the team out off div 3,and county board said no!!
Damien will not get three years,poor fella being led up the path, laughing stock in Ulster at the moment.
How many teams in Ireland actually fear play the likes of Fermanagh!!!that's how far we have falling because off a board who hasn't a clue!

I cant believe there are complaints about a county board member because of where he is from!
Pure nonsense.

I can see through it if the complaint was specifically about something a person has or hasn't done, but come on.....basically the comment is saying that Barker isnt fit for a job as he's from Moneymore. It's just a ridiculous notion. I hope you're not in any position where you are responsible for employing people.

As for McErlain and his comments about picking a panel, its an awkward one to answer truthfully, but that answer was arrogant.
He has now put himself in a difficult position I think. Even if he does think he made a mistake omitting them, he possibly feels now that he can't back track or he'll look weak. Personally, I think the guys mentioned in the article should have been some of the first players to get picked. I sense there is more to this story than has been made public.

Its really difficult to motivate Derry fans to attend games at the best of times, but when we see that our best players (in my opinion) are not going to be playing what are we going to watch? A group of guys just out of minors who are out of their depth a bit with no experience around them to help bring them on. Its unfair on those new guys as well to expect so much from them without the relative stability of players who have been around for a few years and know the craic. I know its very early days, but things seem to be a shambles this year already.

I really worry for Derry at the minute. I can see us drifting further and further away in terms of being competitive.

We've lost one game lads ffs. We got a ridiculous penalty awarded against us and we missed one ourselves at the end. Lots of people here are listing players who should be on the panel but most of them have been tried before and failed, are too old now or have walked away before and not shown the right commitment.The only player I've seen mentioned on this discussion board who would improve the team is danny heavron. For some unknown reason he is being left out at the moment which is great for us in the club but not good for derry. I think Damien has gone for too much youth but we will look a lot stronger when the slaughtneil boys come back.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on January 30, 2018, 08:29:57 PM
I've set back and watched the comments on here and it's no wonder Derry are in the situation there in!
They have a fella from moneymore, yes moneymore incharge of fixtures,my god!!
We have a fella who is the manager because the big names pointed out what they wanred/needed till try and get the team out off div 3,and county board said no!!
Damien will not get three years,poor fella being led up the path, laughing stock in Ulster at the moment.
How many teams in Ireland actually fear play the likes of Fermanagh!!!that's how far we have falling because off a board who hasn't a clue!
You realy is a scullywug!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: cuyahoga on January 31, 2018, 12:13:15 AM
As far as I have seen, for a number of years, not many players from Derry clubs have been comfortable playing for the county team. Eamonn Coleman RIP is no longer with us and the odd one or two other highly respected managers, who could do an excellent job, despair at the apathy in many quarters. Why would they put their good reputations on the line to resurrect an indifferent Derry Football County Board and public. Does anyone seriously think that the return of the Slaughtneil contingent will greatly enhance the fortunes of the Derry county team when they join up with an underage manager after spending nearly their last 3 or 4 years with one of the most undoubtedly respected managers in Ireland. What did the Crossmaglen players ever contribute to Armagh (or manager)  when their marathon stint in All Ireland Club Football Championships came to an end? Also, don't forget, these same Slaughtneil players have been living like Cistercians for such a long time and playing All Ireland Club (and county) hurling as well. Can you imagine the outcry if one of them had an average game for the county team? If any players need a rest, they do.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on January 31, 2018, 07:08:55 AM
As far as I have seen, for a number of years, not many players from Derry clubs have been comfortable playing for the county team. Eamonn Coleman RIP is no longer with us and the odd one or two other highly respected managers, who could do an excellent job, despair at the apathy in many quarters. Why would they put their good reputations on the line to resurrect an indifferent Derry Football County Board and public. Does anyone seriously think that the return of the Slaughtneil contingent will greatly enhance the fortunes of the Derry county team when they join up with an underage manager after spending nearly their last 3 or 4 years with one of the most undoubtedly respected managers in Ireland. What did the Crossmaglen players ever contribute to Armagh (or manager)  when their marathon stint in All Ireland Club Football Championships came to an end? Also, don't forget, these same Slaughtneil players have been living like Cistercians for such a long time and playing All Ireland Club (and county) hurling as well. Can you imagine the outcry if one of them had an average game for the county team? If any players need a rest, they do.

I think oisin mcconville, the mcentees and francie bellew, aaron kernen contributed quite a lot to armagh. They won an all ireland and a few ulsters. You should have a wee think before you type.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on January 31, 2018, 07:39:21 AM
And hearty.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on January 31, 2018, 12:15:39 PM
The last three Derry managers have tried to make a stand by dropping their undoubted best player from the panel not long after joining:
McIvor - Paddy Bradley
Barton - Eoin Bradley
McErlain - Danny Heavron

And let’s remember how well it went for those first two...? Both men got Derry relegated (from different leagues!) and failed to make any impact on either the Ulster Championship or qualifier. McErlain looks like he’s following a similar path. Depressing.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: oakleaflad on January 31, 2018, 01:37:40 PM
Yeah just had a look at the account that posted that and I'd probably agree. Not really fair on the player.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: honthecounty on January 31, 2018, 02:04:05 PM
any news of when the club fixtures are out and what is happening with the district competitions this season? have heard that they are not happening and there is no competitive games until first league game which is a long stretch for teams that have been training for past few weeks.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: toby47 on January 31, 2018, 02:16:58 PM
any news of when the club fixtures are out and what is happening with the district competitions this season? have heard that they are not happening and there is no competitive games until first league game which is a long stretch for teams that have been training for past few weeks.

First league game is set to be Wednesday 4th April.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on January 31, 2018, 04:03:25 PM
I would generally take a tweet from an anonymous person with a pinch of salt

Maybe stick to your principles and take that post down.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: cornerback on January 31, 2018, 04:51:31 PM
Fair enough - removed.

I'm not entirely sure what line I crossed given the criticism handed out here daily.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on January 31, 2018, 05:25:49 PM
Fair enough - removed.

I'm not entirely sure what line I crossed given the criticism handed out here daily.
Since you are a cornerback, any chance it was the 21 yard line?!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Uncle Phil on February 01, 2018, 08:50:27 AM
Fair enough - removed.

I'm not entirely sure what line I crossed given the criticism handed out here daily.

I thought this board was democratic lads? Freedom of speech and all that.

Perhaps a bit harsh on Danny of course, but cornerback didn't need to remove the post.

It wasn't that controversial, and he was providing juicy gossip on the matter at hand, even if it turns out to be bullsh*t.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
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Quote from: cuyahoga on January 31, 2018, 12:13:15 AM
As far as I have seen, for a number of years, not many players from Derry clubs have been comfortable playing for the county team. Eamonn Coleman RIP is no longer with us and the odd one or two other highly respected managers, who could do an excellent job, despair at the apathy in many quarters. Why would they put their good reputations on the line to resurrect an indifferent Derry Football County Board and public. Does anyone seriously think that the return of the Slaughtneil contingent will greatly enhance the fortunes of the Derry county team when they join up with an underage manager after spending nearly their last 3 or 4 years with one of the most undoubtedly respected managers in Ireland. What did the Crossmaglen players ever contribute to Armagh (or manager)  when their marathon stint in All Ireland Club Football Championships came to an end? Also, don't forget, these same Slaughtneil players have been living like Cistercians for such a long time and playing All Ireland Club (and county) hurling as well. Can you imagine the outcry if one of them had an average game for the county team? If any players need a rest, they do.

I think oisin mcconville, the mcentees and francie bellew, aaron kernen contributed quite a lot to armagh. They won an all ireland and a few ulsters. You should have a wee think before you type.>


The point I was trying to get across was that, the more successful the Crossmaglen team became, the harder their players found
it to devote, what energy they had left, to the county team.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on February 01, 2018, 10:01:39 PM
They won the ai club before armagh won the ai did they not? Armagh may have been a good example 2 or 3 years ago but not that batch of guys.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Real Talk on February 02, 2018, 03:26:30 PM
Has the Derry manager any different player options for the Longford game?

I know that B Heron and Terence O'Brien didn't play the last day.  Would like to see Jordan Curran get a start he has lots of ability and a good engine - what do youses boys think !
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on February 02, 2018, 05:10:24 PM
Has the Derry manager any different player options for the Longford game?

I know that B Heron and Terence O'Brien didn't play the last day.  Would like to see Jordan Curran get a start he has lots of ability and a good engine - what do youses boys think !
He did get starts in the McKenna cup. I felt he struggled but then again the senior intercounty game has a very sharp learning curve.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on February 04, 2018, 03:45:33 PM
A dark dark day in the history of Derry football.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on February 04, 2018, 04:33:59 PM
A dark dark day in the history of Derry football.
Hardly.  Were you expecting a win?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: JoG2 on February 04, 2018, 04:42:09 PM
Christ on a stick but that's as grim a Derry performance as I've seen.
Young Hartin and McGrogan equitted themselves rightly for men coming into the fray. McFaul showed great heart and Lynn was again our main man, we'd be even more bucked without that man.
Wiped out in Midfield. Couldn't make the ball stick up front, tried about 5 different men on the edge of the square. Too many men playing with fear, take the easy lateral, backward pass time and time again. Barre 10 mins at the start of the 2nd half it was like a hot knife through butter, Quinn (who had a right ding dong with Lynn in stages)  beat maybe 5 men to score their goal. From a div 1 final to bottom of the 3rd div in 4 years.
Utterly depressing stuff
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: lenny on February 04, 2018, 06:40:04 PM
A dark dark day in the history of Derry football.

And hurling, beat by donegal.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 04, 2018, 07:08:05 PM
If it wasnt for Offaly been so poor and i think we beat maybe wexford at home; all the rest could beat us! We just be above the offaly and wexford to stay out of division 4! Like the film 47 ronin i say we had about 47 supporters there the day! Played with a system the day but the players are either not there or too inexperienced to play it! Its def tough times for Derry team and supporters!!
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: scallywag on February 04, 2018, 07:21:31 PM
A joke,when is this madness going till end
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: bannside on February 04, 2018, 07:35:29 PM
What would your own solutions be?
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on February 04, 2018, 11:03:20 PM
What would your own solutions be?

Step 1: Pick a panel of your best and most talented players

As an example, are the two best goalkeepers in Derry teenagers? Have they ever achieved anything at club level? We had McKindless last season who played for Derry in the championship last season before appearing for ballinderry.

We are a joke of a county. Teams look at us now and think they have 2 points in the bag.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on February 04, 2018, 11:07:34 PM
What would your own solutions be?

Step 2: I’d also like to see an update on the 5 year strategic plan which we had in place; or at least how we did on targets vs actual outcomes

http://ulster.gaa.ie/wp-content/uploads/council/strategies/derry-strategy-2012-2017.pdf

Won’t hold my breath..
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: greenlight on February 04, 2018, 11:18:47 PM
What would your own solutions be?

Step 3: I’d like to see every Senior and intermediate league and championship game videoed by the county board, so that we could at least have the impression within the county that the Senior management take some sort of interest in players who are performing well during club games. They should have a dossier of players from each club, and provide players who are performing well with training plans / tips (with a view of being called up in coming seasons)

Highlights should be put on the website, which would generally increase the coverage of the club game.
Title: Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
Post by: restorepride on February 05, 2018, 02:27:08 AM