Solutions for climate change

Started by seafoid, September 26, 2019, 04:30:39 PM

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t_mac

Coldplay 'not touring' until concerts are 'environmentally beneficial' - thank fcuk best thing to date about Global Warming, hopefully they also consider not being on TV again or recording any more "music"!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-50490700

BennyCake

Quote from: t_mac on November 21, 2019, 08:03:44 AM
Coldplay 'not touring' until concerts are 'environmentally beneficial' - thank fcuk best thing to date about Global Warming, hopefully they also consider not being on TV again or recording any more "music"!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-50490700

Hopefully, and pity they didn't decide this about 17 years ago instead of subjecting us to their shite music.

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/56238e12-14ef-11ea-b869-0971bffac109

Opinion Climate change
Climate change is reaching a tipping point
The earth's vulnerabilities could interact with each other in unpredictable ways

ANJANA AHUJA Four years ago, it was Paris; for the next fortnight, it is Madrid. The scenery changes but the message does not: the world is running out of time to halt catastrophic climate change. The efforts made to honour the 2015 Paris pledge to limit the rise in global average temperature to under 2C, and ideally 1.5C, above the pre-industrial average, have been "utterly inadequate", according to the UN secretary-general. António Guterres, speaking in Spain ahead of the COP25 climate summit to negotiate an emissions trading system, warned that the Earth was belching its way towards a "point of no return". He blamed politicians for continuing to subsidise fossil fuels and refusing to tax pollution. Perhaps Mr Guterres had caught sight of an article, published last week in the journal Nature, speculating whether the planet has already reached a critical state of warming and is now, climatically speaking, doomed. The analysis of nine climate "tipping points" concludes that we are in a "planetary emergency", and possibly heading towards a hothouse Earth. While some climate dangers, such as the runaway melting of ice sheets, have been historically predicted to happen if global average temperatures rise by 5C, later models have lowered some of those margins down to between 1C and 2C. Worse, the tipping points might interact with each other in unknown ways, the researchers warn, to threaten a global cascade of irreversible harm.

"If damaging tipping cascades and a global tipping point cannot be ruled out, then this is an existential threat to civilisation," writes Timothy Lenton, director of the Global Systems Institute at the University of Exeter, UK, who collaborated with academics in Germany and Denmark. From a risk-management perspective, they urge immediate political and economic action to keep the rise to below 1.5C. A tipping point is defined by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change as a "large-scale discontinuity" in one piece of the Earth's climate. Interrelated pieces include familiar totems such as Arctic sea ice and the Amazon rainforest. Less well-known components include the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, a "conveyor belt" that shifts warm water from the tropics northwards and brings deeper, colder water back south; and boreal forests, the evergreen thickets that ring northern latitudes, sometimes sit atop permafrost and act as a vast carbon store. In practice, a tipping point is a threshold beyond which a small tweak can have abrupt irreversible effects. Some components of the world's climate, the researchers suggest, seem closer to the brink than others. The Greenland ice sheet may be nearing a point after which it will inexorably shrink. The loss of Arctic sea ice is another potential flashpoint: ice is more reflective than dark seawater, so melting ice fuels more heat absorption and further warming.
Recommended Special Report: Managing Climate Change Both phenomena might already be feeding instability into the system, by pushing more water into the North Atlantic and slowing down the conveyor belt. In turn, a sluggish circulation might, by interfering with the west African monsoon, trigger a drought in the Sahel region of Africa. Subsequent knock-on effects include a warmer Southern Ocean, which could accelerate ice loss in Antarctica. Once the climate dominoes start falling, the risks become twofold: not only is there a slowdown in mopping up ongoing emissions but the planet could also begin burping out the carbon already locked away. Permafrost emissions, for example, could inject 100 gigatonnes of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. That is three years' worth of CO2 emissions (a record 33.1 Gt was emitted globally in 2018, according to the International Energy Agency). Not everyone is fully behind the apocalyptic analysis. "Greenland ice sheet collapse is pretty improbable at 1.5C warming, or it would take centuries to melt, so it wouldn't fit with a reader's perception of a tipping point," warns Piers Forster, professor of physical climate change at Leeds University and an IPCC author.

But Prof Forster does agree that the delay on decarbonisation might lead us to "dither ourselves into a catastrophic future. As the world warms, we'll need to spend more and more . . . coping with the risks and adapting to a warmer future, with appropriate flows of money from global North to global South. This would take the wealth and capacity out of societies that are trying to get to net zero. If this happens, we would see a catastrophe." Not apocalypse, then, but catastrophe: the language changes but the message does not.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/b9e8e721-6d1c-4513-9034-3f6d99d983b8

Big Oil has been rocked by a climate reckoning. International oil companies have laid out detailed plans to drive down carbon emissions. But stunning boardroom and courtroom defeats this week showed how powerful forces in society want faster change. Shareholders at ExxonMobil, a titan of corporate America, backed a long-shot activist campaign to overhaul the company's board, handing the new directors a mandate to push a more aggressive strategy to drive down emissions. The vote on Wednesday came after a Dutch court ordered Royal Dutch Shell to accelerate and deepen its emissions cuts. Meanwhile, investors in Chevron defied management on a major climate vote, approving a measure for the company to set stringent targets on the emissions from the products it sells for the first time. The actions show the increasing pressure on international oil companies to respond more aggressively to climate change, with broad consequences for energy supplies and energy investors. It's a historic vote that represents a tipping point for companies that are unprepared for the global energy transition Aeisha Mastagni, California State Teachers' Retirement System Assumptions about energy that were common a few years ago are being shredded. The International Energy Agency said in a landmark report last week that hitting emissions goals would require ending investment in new oil and gasfields. Threats to future oil demand were underscored by this week's enthusiastic reception to the new electric version of Ford's F-150 pick-up truck, a gas guzzler that reigns as America's most popular automobile
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

J70

Detroit is starting to see the light too.

Ford recently announced an electric version of the F150 pick-up truck. Think the F150 is the best selling vehicle in the states.

It will take a while before the infrastructure is in place to allow people to use it for work or long-haul purposes, but its a start.

seafoid

Quote from: J70 on May 27, 2021, 03:52:59 PM
Detroit is starting to see the light too.

Ford recently announced an electric version of the F150 pick-up truck. Think the F150 is the best selling vehicle in the states.

It will take a while before the infrastructure is in place to allow people to use it for work or long-haul purposes, but its a start.
The UK is going to spend £300m installing 1,800 fast chargers.
The US is obviously much bigger. The rollout of Electric car infrastructure will provide a lot of employment.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Gmac

Quote from: seafoid on May 27, 2021, 09:29:46 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 27, 2021, 03:52:59 PM
Detroit is starting to see the light too.

Ford recently announced an electric version of the F150 pick-up truck. Think the F150 is the best selling vehicle in the states.

It will take a while before the infrastructure is in place to allow people to use it for work or long-haul purposes, but its a start.
The UK is going to spend £300m installing 1,800 fast chargers.
The US is obviously much bigger. The rollout of Electric car infrastructure will provide a lot of employment.
how long would it take to charge a big suv or an f250 ?  most people driving big distance are driving big vehicles  to carry their baggage etc, it's cheaper to fly for lone travelers  . Also most people who own their home install a charger at their house if they need a charger.
I see a charging area in local car park with about 10 stations and it is empty most of the time

Armagh18

Quote from: Gmac on May 27, 2021, 11:03:07 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 27, 2021, 09:29:46 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 27, 2021, 03:52:59 PM
Detroit is starting to see the light too.

Ford recently announced an electric version of the F150 pick-up truck. Think the F150 is the best selling vehicle in the states.

It will take a while before the infrastructure is in place to allow people to use it for work or long-haul purposes, but its a start.
The UK is going to spend £300m installing 1,800 fast chargers.
The US is obviously much bigger. The rollout of Electric car infrastructure will provide a lot of employment.
how long would it take to charge a big suv or an f250 ?  most people driving big distance are driving big vehicles  to carry their baggage etc, it's cheaper to fly for lone travelers  . Also most people who own their home install a charger at their house if they need a charger.
I see a charging area in local car park with about 10 stations and it is empty most of the time
Electric cars will only become mainstream when you can charge up in half an hour tops and it will last all week. Until then, diesel all the way.

Taylor

Quote from: Armagh18 on May 27, 2021, 11:12:35 PM
Quote from: Gmac on May 27, 2021, 11:03:07 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 27, 2021, 09:29:46 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 27, 2021, 03:52:59 PM
Detroit is starting to see the light too.

Ford recently announced an electric version of the F150 pick-up truck. Think the F150 is the best selling vehicle in the states.

It will take a while before the infrastructure is in place to allow people to use it for work or long-haul purposes, but its a start.
The UK is going to spend £300m installing 1,800 fast chargers.
The US is obviously much bigger. The rollout of Electric car infrastructure will provide a lot of employment.
how long would it take to charge a big suv or an f250 ?  most people driving big distance are driving big vehicles  to carry their baggage etc, it's cheaper to fly for lone travelers  . Also most people who own their home install a charger at their house if they need a charger.
I see a charging area in local car park with about 10 stations and it is empty most of the time
Electric cars will only become mainstream when you can charge up in half an hour tops and it will last all week. Until then, diesel all the way.

With diesel cars slowly being phased out surely it doesnt make sense to buy a new diesel as the resale value will be horrific in a few years time?

seafoid

Quote from: Armagh18 on May 27, 2021, 11:12:35 PM
Quote from: Gmac on May 27, 2021, 11:03:07 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 27, 2021, 09:29:46 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 27, 2021, 03:52:59 PM
Detroit is starting to see the light too.

Ford recently announced an electric version of the F150 pick-up truck. Think the F150 is the best selling vehicle in the states.

It will take a while before the infrastructure is in place to allow people to use it for work or long-haul purposes, but its a start.
The UK is going to spend £300m installing 1,800 fast chargers.
The US is obviously much bigger. The rollout of Electric car infrastructure will provide a lot of employment.
how long would it take to charge a big suv or an f250 ?  most people driving big distance are driving big vehicles  to carry their baggage etc, it's cheaper to fly for lone travelers  . Also most people who own their home install a charger at their house if they need a charger.
I see a charging area in local car park with about 10 stations and it is empty most of the time
Electric cars will only become mainstream when you can charge up in half an hour tops and it will last all week. Until then, diesel all the way.
Charging is cheaper than diesel. Plus you can recharge while driving downhill.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

johnnycool

Solar panels should nearly be mandatory on any new builds at this stage.
They're a no brainer.

Hound

Quote from: J70 on May 27, 2021, 03:52:59 PM
Detroit is starting to see the light too.

Ford recently announced an electric version of the F150 pick-up truck. Think the F150 is the best selling vehicle in the states.

It will take a while before the infrastructure is in place to allow people to use it for work or long-haul purposes, but its a start.
I can't fathom the point of pick ups, but I do love the new F150 !

Wifey and I both have plug in hybrids. Charger at home and in both workplaces. Electric only range about 30-40 km, which gets us into work. So (pre-Covid) it's months between petrol fill ups, unless we head down the country for a weekend or something. Though I've actually no idea how much it costs to recharge the cars at home.

J70

Pick-ups make perfect sense for a farmer or construction worker, especially in the states. Or if you're pulling a caravan or boat or something.

I grew up on a farm in Donegal, and we could simply take the tractor to the local coop to pick up fertilizer or fencing supplies or bags of nuts or meal. In the US, where the farms are often huge, you could have to drive tens of miles to get supplies, something that just isn't practical on a tractor, no matter how highly powered and hi-tec.