Teachers get it handy!

[quit yo jibbajabba]

I hate her based on her choice of partner alone

[Milltown Row2]

I hate her based on her choice of partner alone

She doesn't even like me, but because of the teachers shitty wage, she's stuck

[ONeill]

About time the government paid these teachers more so that industrial action stops and inspectors can come in and wipe them out.

[Delgany 2nds]

About time the government paid these teachers more so that industrial action stops and inspectors can come in and wipe them out.

Sure they've been hiding in pre school provision and training centres for 4 years....they'll hardly start to September.Nothing to fear !

[Milltown Row2]

That wife of mine was saying that in her school they mainly take on teachers as temps and if it works out give them full time work..

Very rarely do they have full time positions available

Anyone with kids looking to get into teaching, tell them not to bother.

[theticklemister]

Ah Milltown. We get it alright. There are plenty out there who don't get even half of what we teachers get. Be thankful for what you got and stay humble.

[Wildweasel74]

Deal with Principals every day, Good at day to day running of schools but not the ability to deal with massive financial situations espically with varying costs from year to year. I knew a school who gas bill increased 3 fold 2 yrs ago during the Urkaine crisis, the cost per month I couldn't believe. The bursars weren't much better either to be honest. School are in trouble has they are 25% underfunded to either close schools or force Integrated mergers. Sure why worry about money, we all on for paying for a overpriced casement Park.

[armaghniac]

Deal with Principals every day, Good at day to day running of schools but not the ability to deal with massive financial situations espically with varying costs from year to year. I knew a school who gas bill increased 3 fold 2 yrs ago during the Urkaine crisis, the cost per month I couldn't believe. The bursars weren't much better either to be honest. School are in trouble has they are 25% underfunded to either close schools or force Integrated mergers. Sure why worry about money, we all on for paying for a overpriced casement Park.

Schools are not all the same, one may have an older building and have a bigger increase in heating bills. The funding model may not accommodate these differences.

As for Casement, there is a plenty of money wasted other than that.

[Milltown Row2]

Ah Milltown. We get it alright. There are plenty out there who don't get even half of what we teachers get. Be thankful for what you got and stay humble.

Get what? Between the two of us there is nearly 40 years of education. These last 10 years based on various conversations and observations has been worst for the effort she's put in.

If it continues along this path it's not going to get any better.

She's been a great believer in teaching but she won't be recommending it to many.

As for being humble, wise up. I was highlighting how in NI that teachers are under paid

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Plenty be happy with their "shitty wage'

[Milltown Row2]

Plenty be happy with their "shitty wage'

England (excluding London) and Wales - £30,000 to £46,525. London - £31,350 to £47,839 (fringes), £34,514 to £51,179 (outer), £36,745 to £56,959 (inner) Scotland - £38,655 to £48,516 (from 1 January 2024) Northern Ireland - £24,137 to £41,094.

At least get some parity with the rest?

[Delgany 2nds]

Plenty be happy with their "shitty wage'

England (excluding London) and Wales - £30,000 to £46,525. London - £31,350 to £47,839 (fringes), £34,514 to £51,179 (outer), £36,745 to £56,959 (inner) Scotland - £38,655 to £48,516 (from 1 January 2024) Northern Ireland - £24,137 to £41,094.

At least get some parity with the rest?

Parity is about to hit home.

Tell me the name of any 'business'that didn't experience difficulties around energy prices!

The vast majority of schools are realistically unable to use a business model that also delivers a public service. Education is relatively free to the users other than contributions for trips etc.
The level of funding for some schools is supplemented by capital fee contributions between £500 to £1400 or a few 'private' schools that charge upto £4k.per term. So cheer up and be thankful for what you get for 'free' ffs.

[trueblue1234]

Is this pay parity not a bit of a red herring? Are all careers not better paid in the uk than here? I know in general on the engineering/ manufacturing side there is around at least a 10% uplift with similar roles in England (Not including London where it's sharper again). But cost of living here is much lower.

[Mario]

Is this pay parity not a bit of a red herring? Are all careers not better paid in the uk than here? I know in general on the engineering/ manufacturing side there is around at least a 10% uplift with similar roles in England (Not including London where it's sharper again). But cost of living here is much lower.

I agree with you that all careers are better paid in the UK but I don't think the argument that the cost of living is much lower holds anymore. Maybe in Rural NI with cheaper houses but not in the greater Belfast area.

House prices in Belfast are similar to many northern English cities, childcare costs here are higher here, going out is more expensive, bills probably the same, groceries more expensive. what exactly is cheaper here compared to Northern England, Scotland or Wales?

[Kidder81]

Is this pay parity not a bit of a red herring? Are all careers not better paid in the uk than here? I know in general on the engineering/ manufacturing side there is around at least a 10% uplift with similar roles in England (Not including London where it's sharper again). But cost of living here is much lower.

I agree with you that all careers are better paid in the UK but I don't think the argument that the cost of living is much lower holds anymore. Maybe in Rural NI with cheaper houses but not in the greater Belfast area.

House prices in Belfast are similar to many northern English cities, childcare costs here are higher here, going out is more expensive, bills probably the same, groceries more expensive. what exactly is cheaper here compared to Northern England, Scotland or Wales?

Council tax v rates ?

Prescription charges

Water charges