The ulster rugby trial

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Quote from: orangeman on March 15, 2018, 11:11:45 AM
6 weeks or more of wading through evidence and legal argument, not to mention months of prepraring for the trial by numerous firms of solicitors and barristers mean that the costs bill is going to be a hefty one. Out of curiosity who is picking up the tab in the event of a win or a loss ?. Just asking.
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Owen Brannigan

Quote from: orangeman on March 15, 2018, 11:11:45 AM
6 weeks or more of wading through evidence and legal argument, not to mention months of prepraring for the trial by numerous firms of solicitors and barristers mean that the costs bill is going to be a hefty one. Out of curiosity who is picking up the tab in the event of a win or a loss ?. Just asking.

Depending on whether some of the defendants have managed to get legal aid, wouldn't think Jackson and Olding would get it, they are responsible for their own legal costs for barristers and solicitors each running into tens of thousands. 4 barristers and 4 solicitors will lift a tidy sum for 6 weeks in court and all the time spent from arrest to court case beginning.

Cost of prosecution falls on the tax payer but if found guilty there is a nominal payment by defendants towards court costs.

Overall it has been an expensive trial. That doesn't include the cost of the jurors being out of their work for the whole time.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on March 15, 2018, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 15, 2018, 11:11:45 AM
6 weeks or more of wading through evidence and legal argument, not to mention months of prepraring for the trial by numerous firms of solicitors and barristers mean that the costs bill is going to be a hefty one. Out of curiosity who is picking up the tab in the event of a win or a loss ?. Just asking.

Depending on whether some of the defendants have managed to get legal aid, wouldn't think Jackson and Olding would get it, they are responsible for their own legal costs for barristers and solicitors each running into tens of thousands. 4 barristers and 4 solicitors will lift a tidy sum for 6 weeks in court and all the time spent from arrest to court case beginning.

Cost of prosecution falls on the tax payer but if found guilty there is a nominal payment by defendants towards court costs.

Overall it has been an expensive trial. That doesn't include the cost of the jurors being out of their work for the whole time.

If Paddy Jackson has been suspended from his employers (I'm assuming) would he not be entitled to legal aid? Is it also common to bring prosecution barristers over from England?
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screenexile

Greaney's upped his game for the closing statements he's way more detailed and up to date than Cooney today!

Not much new or surprising coming from the prosecution closing statement. Do all 4 defending barristers give a closing statement?

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: screenexile on March 15, 2018, 12:17:18 PM
Greaney's upped his game for the closing statements he's way more detailed and up to date than Cooney today!

Not much new or surprising coming from the prosecution closing statement. Do all 4 defending barristers give a closing statement?

No only Paddy Jackson's as he is the main star of the show and whatever happens to him will have a huge bearing on how much news the other 3 get.

Avondhu star

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2018, 12:02:39 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on March 15, 2018, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 15, 2018, 11:11:45 AM
6 weeks or more of wading through evidence and legal argument, not to mention months of prepraring for the trial by numerous firms of solicitors and barristers mean that the costs bill is going to be a hefty one. Out of curiosity who is picking up the tab in the event of a win or a loss ?. Just asking.

Depending on whether some of the defendants have managed to get legal aid, wouldn't think Jackson and Olding would get it, they are responsible for their own legal costs for barristers and solicitors each running into tens of thousands. 4 barristers and 4 solicitors will lift a tidy sum for 6 weeks in court and all the time spent from arrest to court case beginning.

Cost of prosecution falls on the tax payer but if found guilty there is a nominal payment by defendants towards court costs.

Overall it has been an expensive trial. That doesn't include the cost of the jurors being out of their work for the whole time.

If Paddy Jackson has been suspended from his employers (I'm assuming) would he not be entitled to legal aid? Is it also common to bring prosecution barristers over from England?
Same as an English barrister taking a brief in Glasgow or Cardiff.
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you

Avondhu star

Quote from: screenexile on March 15, 2018, 12:17:18 PM
Greaney's upped his game for the closing statements he's way more detailed and up to date than Cooney today!

Not much new or surprising coming from the prosecution closing statement. Do all 4 defending barristers give a closing statement?
Yes. This is not a united defence. Each barrister is employed to defend his client. If that means throwing someone else under a bus to save his client so be it
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brokencrossbar1

Quote from: Avondhu star on March 15, 2018, 12:32:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2018, 12:02:39 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on March 15, 2018, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 15, 2018, 11:11:45 AM
6 weeks or more of wading through evidence and legal argument, not to mention months of prepraring for the trial by numerous firms of solicitors and barristers mean that the costs bill is going to be a hefty one. Out of curiosity who is picking up the tab in the event of a win or a loss ?. Just asking.

Depending on whether some of the defendants have managed to get legal aid, wouldn't think Jackson and Olding would get it, they are responsible for their own legal costs for barristers and solicitors each running into tens of thousands. 4 barristers and 4 solicitors will lift a tidy sum for 6 weeks in court and all the time spent from arrest to court case beginning.

Cost of prosecution falls on the tax payer but if found guilty there is a nominal payment by defendants towards court costs.

Overall it has been an expensive trial. That doesn't include the cost of the jurors being out of their work for the whole time.

If Paddy Jackson has been suspended from his employers (I'm assuming) would he not be entitled to legal aid? Is it also common to bring prosecution barristers over from England?
Same as an English barrister taking a brief in Glasgow or Cardiff.

And given the small amount of QCs here there would be a risk that given the background of the defendants there may be a level of bias so it was wise to look outside the immediate jurisdiction

Minder

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2018, 12:02:39 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on March 15, 2018, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 15, 2018, 11:11:45 AM
6 weeks or more of wading through evidence and legal argument, not to mention months of prepraring for the trial by numerous firms of solicitors and barristers mean that the costs bill is going to be a hefty one. Out of curiosity who is picking up the tab in the event of a win or a loss ?. Just asking.

Depending on whether some of the defendants have managed to get legal aid, wouldn't think Jackson and Olding would get it, they are responsible for their own legal costs for barristers and solicitors each running into tens of thousands. 4 barristers and 4 solicitors will lift a tidy sum for 6 weeks in court and all the time spent from arrest to court case beginning.

Cost of prosecution falls on the tax payer but if found guilty there is a nominal payment by defendants towards court costs.

Overall it has been an expensive trial. That doesn't include the cost of the jurors being out of their work for the whole time.

If Paddy Jackson has been suspended from his employers (I'm assuming) would he not be entitled to legal aid? Is it also common to bring prosecution barristers over from England?

I heard he was on half pay
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passedit

Quote from: Avondhu star on March 15, 2018, 12:32:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2018, 12:02:39 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on March 15, 2018, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 15, 2018, 11:11:45 AM
6 weeks or more of wading through evidence and legal argument, not to mention months of prepraring for the trial by numerous firms of solicitors and barristers mean that the costs bill is going to be a hefty one. Out of curiosity who is picking up the tab in the event of a win or a loss ?. Just asking.

Depending on whether some of the defendants have managed to get legal aid, wouldn't think Jackson and Olding would get it, they are responsible for their own legal costs for barristers and solicitors each running into tens of thousands. 4 barristers and 4 solicitors will lift a tidy sum for 6 weeks in court and all the time spent from arrest to court case beginning.

Cost of prosecution falls on the tax payer but if found guilty there is a nominal payment by defendants towards court costs.

Overall it has been an expensive trial. That doesn't include the cost of the jurors being out of their work for the whole time.

If Paddy Jackson has been suspended from his employers (I'm assuming) would he not be entitled to legal aid? Is it also common to bring prosecution barristers over from England?
Same as an English barrister taking a brief in Glasgow or Cardiff.

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I'd imagine he'd be on full pay. No? He's only accused at this stage.

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: passedit on March 15, 2018, 12:37:46 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on March 15, 2018, 12:32:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2018, 12:02:39 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on March 15, 2018, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 15, 2018, 11:11:45 AM
6 weeks or more of wading through evidence and legal argument, not to mention months of prepraring for the trial by numerous firms of solicitors and barristers mean that the costs bill is going to be a hefty one. Out of curiosity who is picking up the tab in the event of a win or a loss ?. Just asking.

Depending on whether some of the defendants have managed to get legal aid, wouldn't think Jackson and Olding would get it, they are responsible for their own legal costs for barristers and solicitors each running into tens of thousands. 4 barristers and 4 solicitors will lift a tidy sum for 6 weeks in court and all the time spent from arrest to court case beginning.

Cost of prosecution falls on the tax payer but if found guilty there is a nominal payment by defendants towards court costs.

Overall it has been an expensive trial. That doesn't include the cost of the jurors being out of their work for the whole time.

If Paddy Jackson has been suspended from his employers (I'm assuming) would he not be entitled to legal aid? Is it also common to bring prosecution barristers over from England?
Same as an English barrister taking a brief in Glasgow or Cardiff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc1iipvzr4s

Brilliant!!!

David McKeown

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on March 15, 2018, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 15, 2018, 11:11:45 AM
6 weeks or more of wading through evidence and legal argument, not to mention months of prepraring for the trial by numerous firms of solicitors and barristers mean that the costs bill is going to be a hefty one. Out of curiosity who is picking up the tab in the event of a win or a loss ?. Just asking.

Depending on whether some of the defendants have managed to get legal aid, wouldn't think Jackson and Olding would get it, they are responsible for their own legal costs for barristers and solicitors each running into tens of thousands. 4 barristers and 4 solicitors will lift a tidy sum for 6 weeks in court and all the time spent from arrest to court case beginning.

Cost of prosecution falls on the tax payer but if found guilty there is a nominal payment by defendants towards court costs.

Overall it has been an expensive trial. That doesn't include the cost of the jurors being out of their work for the whole time.

More likely 8 barristers. Senior and Junior for each defendant. Also costs against defendants are practically unheard of in Northern Ireland. As are costs for successful defendants.
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David McKeown

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 15, 2018, 12:26:47 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 15, 2018, 12:17:18 PM
Greaney's upped his game for the closing statements he's way more detailed and up to date than Cooney today!

Not much new or surprising coming from the prosecution closing statement. Do all 4 defending barristers give a closing statement?

No only Paddy Jackson's as he is the main star of the show and whatever happens to him will have a huge bearing on how much news the other 3 get.

Yeah all defence seniors will likely do a closing. Starting with Jacksons ending with Harrisons.
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: Avondhu star on March 15, 2018, 12:32:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2018, 12:02:39 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on March 15, 2018, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 15, 2018, 11:11:45 AM
6 weeks or more of wading through evidence and legal argument, not to mention months of prepraring for the trial by numerous firms of solicitors and barristers mean that the costs bill is going to be a hefty one. Out of curiosity who is picking up the tab in the event of a win or a loss ?. Just asking.

Depending on whether some of the defendants have managed to get legal aid, wouldn't think Jackson and Olding would get it, they are responsible for their own legal costs for barristers and solicitors each running into tens of thousands. 4 barristers and 4 solicitors will lift a tidy sum for 6 weeks in court and all the time spent from arrest to court case beginning.

Cost of prosecution falls on the tax payer but if found guilty there is a nominal payment by defendants towards court costs.

Overall it has been an expensive trial. That doesn't include the cost of the jurors being out of their work for the whole time.

If Paddy Jackson has been suspended from his employers (I'm assuming) would he not be entitled to legal aid? Is it also common to bring prosecution barristers over from England?
Same as an English barrister taking a brief in Glasgow or Cardiff.

Flights and hotels add on that wee bit more, but hey, youre not paying for it so
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea