Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

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God14

Quote from: general_lee on January 09, 2023, 03:59:53 PM
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John Finucane knocking out £161k in earnings outside being an MP.  There mustn't be enough hours in the day for that fella.

Should be said, that's over 3 years not 1. It was January 202 to December 2022. So 54k a year.
Hardly mindblowing money now is it...

he represented Daniel Kinahan in that time. Some of that £161k will have come from one of the worlds most wanted men.

Pretty sure that is the essence of the legal system, everyone is entitled to representation.

In fairness I'm not sure that was a legal aid type case, next barrister/solicitor up & you take the case. I'm guessing Kinahan approached Finucanes firm & they accepted instructions, he could have refused & you would have thought it would have made sense to from a PR perspective (never mind from an ethics standpoint), especially with Finucanes profile as a politician.

I suppose he knew Kinahan would be able to afford it   :D
Turning down work along ethical lines is all well and good, but where do you draw the line?

maybe at one of europes most notorious drug traffickers?

Armagh18

Quote from: general_lee on January 09, 2023, 03:59:53 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 09, 2023, 03:13:08 PM
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Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2023, 08:12:04 AM
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Quote from: Sportacus on January 08, 2023, 03:10:11 PM
John Finucane knocking out £161k in earnings outside being an MP.  There mustn't be enough hours in the day for that fella.

Should be said, that's over 3 years not 1. It was January 202 to December 2022. So 54k a year.
Hardly mindblowing money now is it...

he represented Daniel Kinahan in that time. Some of that £161k will have come from one of the worlds most wanted men.

Pretty sure that is the essence of the legal system, everyone is entitled to representation.

In fairness I'm not sure that was a legal aid type case, next barrister/solicitor up & you take the case. I'm guessing Kinahan approached Finucanes firm & they accepted instructions, he could have refused & you would have thought it would have made sense to from a PR perspective (never mind from an ethics standpoint), especially with Finucanes profile as a politician.

I suppose he knew Kinahan would be able to afford it   :D
Turning down work along ethical lines is all well and good, but where do you draw the line?
Probably on the other side of murdering drug dealers lol

tonto1888

Quote from: Kidder81 on January 09, 2023, 03:13:08 PM
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Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2023, 08:12:04 AM
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Quote from: Sportacus on January 08, 2023, 03:10:11 PM
John Finucane knocking out £161k in earnings outside being an MP.  There mustn't be enough hours in the day for that fella.

Should be said, that's over 3 years not 1. It was January 202 to December 2022. So 54k a year.
Hardly mindblowing money now is it...

he represented Daniel Kinahan in that time. Some of that £161k will have come from one of the worlds most wanted men.

Pretty sure that is the essence of the legal system, everyone is entitled to representation.

In fairness I'm not sure that was a legal aid type case, next barrister/solicitor up & you take the case. I'm guessing Kinahan approached Finucanes firm & they accepted instructions, he could have refused & you would have thought it would have made sense to from a PR perspective (never mind from an ethics standpoint), especially with Finucanes profile as a politician.

I suppose he knew Kinahan would be able to afford it   :D

not sure, guessing and supposing. So you dont know?

Kidder81

Quote from: tonto1888 on January 09, 2023, 06:01:55 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 09, 2023, 03:13:08 PM
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Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2023, 08:12:04 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 09, 2023, 07:37:45 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 08, 2023, 03:10:11 PM
John Finucane knocking out £161k in earnings outside being an MP.  There mustn't be enough hours in the day for that fella.

Should be said, that's over 3 years not 1. It was January 202 to December 2022. So 54k a year.
Hardly mindblowing money now is it...

he represented Daniel Kinahan in that time. Some of that £161k will have come from one of the worlds most wanted men.

Pretty sure that is the essence of the legal system, everyone is entitled to representation.

In fairness I'm not sure that was a legal aid type case, next barrister/solicitor up & you take the case. I'm guessing Kinahan approached Finucanes firm & they accepted instructions, he could have refused & you would have thought it would have made sense to from a PR perspective (never mind from an ethics standpoint), especially with Finucanes profile as a politician.

I suppose he knew Kinahan would be able to afford it   :D

not sure, guessing and supposing. So you dont know?

I didn't but I checked & Finucane said they received instructions from Kinahan (which they could have refused to accept) so I wasn't too far away. Unless you know more ?

GiveItToTheShooters

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2023, 04:08:19 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 09, 2023, 03:59:53 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 09, 2023, 03:13:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 09, 2023, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: God14 on January 09, 2023, 02:27:36 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2023, 08:12:04 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 09, 2023, 07:37:45 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 08, 2023, 03:10:11 PM
John Finucane knocking out £161k in earnings outside being an MP.  There mustn't be enough hours in the day for that fella.

Should be said, that's over 3 years not 1. It was January 202 to December 2022. So 54k a year.
Hardly mindblowing money now is it...

he represented Daniel Kinahan in that time. Some of that £161k will have come from one of the worlds most wanted men.

Pretty sure that is the essence of the legal system, everyone is entitled to representation.

In fairness I'm not sure that was a legal aid type case, next barrister/solicitor up & you take the case. I'm guessing Kinahan approached Finucanes firm & they accepted instructions, he could have refused & you would have thought it would have made sense to from a PR perspective (never mind from an ethics standpoint), especially with Finucanes profile as a politician.

I suppose he knew Kinahan would be able to afford it   :D
Turning down work along ethical lines is all well and good, but where do you draw the line?
Probably on the other side of murdering drug dealers lol
Pretty sure he hasn't been convicted of any murder, you should probably pass on any information if you're so sure about that.

You can't really draw any line, especially if you're a defence solicitor. They have to take the case if they're able to.

StephenC

Load of shite lads. He took the poisonous drug dealers money with not a bother. Communities all round Ireland wrecked by what those scumbags do but sure ... where do you draw the line. FFS.

Kidder81

Quote from: StephenC on January 09, 2023, 08:36:13 PM
Load of shite lads. He took the poisonous drug dealers money with not a bother. Communities all round Ireland wrecked by what those scumbags do but sure ... where do you draw the line. FFS.

Ah the mental gymnastics some of these lads have to do is amazing

Armagh18

Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 09, 2023, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2023, 04:08:19 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 09, 2023, 03:59:53 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 09, 2023, 03:13:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 09, 2023, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: God14 on January 09, 2023, 02:27:36 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2023, 08:12:04 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 09, 2023, 07:37:45 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 08, 2023, 03:10:11 PM
John Finucane knocking out £161k in earnings outside being an MP.  There mustn't be enough hours in the day for that fella.

Should be said, that's over 3 years not 1. It was January 202 to December 2022. So 54k a year.
Hardly mindblowing money now is it...

he represented Daniel Kinahan in that time. Some of that £161k will have come from one of the worlds most wanted men.

Pretty sure that is the essence of the legal system, everyone is entitled to representation.

In fairness I'm not sure that was a legal aid type case, next barrister/solicitor up & you take the case. I'm guessing Kinahan approached Finucanes firm & they accepted instructions, he could have refused & you would have thought it would have made sense to from a PR perspective (never mind from an ethics standpoint), especially with Finucanes profile as a politician.

I suppose he knew Kinahan would be able to afford it   :D
Turning down work along ethical lines is all well and good, but where do you draw the line?
Probably on the other side of murdering drug dealers lol
Pretty sure he hasn't been convicted of any murder, you should probably pass on any information if you're so sure about that.

You can't really draw any line, especially if you're a defence solicitor. They have to take the case if they're able to.
Don't be so pedantic. It's the Kinahan drug cartel they aren't exactly boy scouts lol. Not sure about that one, would they not be able to say no? Anyway like I said before money talks and bullshit walks so let him at it.

Wildweasel74

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Away from politics, he has chased for yrs, trying to nail his father's killers, but at the same time will represent someone involving in killings down south. Can't understand it. Solicitors / Barristers don't seem to have a line representing someone, even if they know they guilty as here.

GiveItToTheShooters

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2023, 10:08:20 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 09, 2023, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2023, 04:08:19 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 09, 2023, 03:59:53 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 09, 2023, 03:13:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 09, 2023, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: God14 on January 09, 2023, 02:27:36 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2023, 08:12:04 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 09, 2023, 07:37:45 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 08, 2023, 03:10:11 PM
John Finucane knocking out £161k in earnings outside being an MP.  There mustn't be enough hours in the day for that fella.

Should be said, that's over 3 years not 1. It was January 202 to December 2022. So 54k a year.
Hardly mindblowing money now is it...

he represented Daniel Kinahan in that time. Some of that £161k will have come from one of the worlds most wanted men.

Pretty sure that is the essence of the legal system, everyone is entitled to representation.

In fairness I'm not sure that was a legal aid type case, next barrister/solicitor up & you take the case. I'm guessing Kinahan approached Finucanes firm & they accepted instructions, he could have refused & you would have thought it would have made sense to from a PR perspective (never mind from an ethics standpoint), especially with Finucanes profile as a politician.

I suppose he knew Kinahan would be able to afford it   :D
Turning down work along ethical lines is all well and good, but where do you draw the line?
Probably on the other side of murdering drug dealers lol
Pretty sure he hasn't been convicted of any murder, you should probably pass on any information if you're so sure about that.

You can't really draw any line, especially if you're a defence solicitor. They have to take the case if they're able to.
Don't be so pedantic. It's the Kinahan drug cartel they aren't exactly boy scouts lol. Not sure about that one, would they not be able to say no? Anyway like I said before money talks and bullshit walks so let him at it.
It's not pedantic, they have to take the case on if they have the capacity to take it when they're approached, unless they have a justifiable reason not to. Saying "nah you seem like an arsehole" doesn't cut it as an excuse if you're a defence lawyer.

Wildweasel74

No they don't, I see solicitors refuse a simple divorce case, with no reasons required on their refusal

Armagh18

Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 09, 2023, 10:18:18 PM
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Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 09, 2023, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2023, 04:08:19 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 09, 2023, 03:59:53 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 09, 2023, 03:13:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 09, 2023, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: God14 on January 09, 2023, 02:27:36 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2023, 08:12:04 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 09, 2023, 07:37:45 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 08, 2023, 03:10:11 PM
John Finucane knocking out £161k in earnings outside being an MP.  There mustn't be enough hours in the day for that fella.

Should be said, that's over 3 years not 1. It was January 202 to December 2022. So 54k a year.
Hardly mindblowing money now is it...

he represented Daniel Kinahan in that time. Some of that £161k will have come from one of the worlds most wanted men.

Pretty sure that is the essence of the legal system, everyone is entitled to representation.

In fairness I'm not sure that was a legal aid type case, next barrister/solicitor up & you take the case. I'm guessing Kinahan approached Finucanes firm & they accepted instructions, he could have refused & you would have thought it would have made sense to from a PR perspective (never mind from an ethics standpoint), especially with Finucanes profile as a politician.

I suppose he knew Kinahan would be able to afford it   :D
Turning down work along ethical lines is all well and good, but where do you draw the line?
Probably on the other side of murdering drug dealers lol
Pretty sure he hasn't been convicted of any murder, you should probably pass on any information if you're so sure about that.

You can't really draw any line, especially if you're a defence solicitor. They have to take the case if they're able to.
Don't be so pedantic. It's the Kinahan drug cartel they aren't exactly boy scouts lol. Not sure about that one, would they not be able to say no? Anyway like I said before money talks and bullshit walks so let him at it.
It's not pedantic, they have to take the case on if they have the capacity to take it when they're approached, unless they have a justifiable reason not to. Saying "nah you seem like an arsehole" doesn't cut it as an excuse if you're a defence lawyer.
Pedantic as in you're saying he hasnt been convicted of murder, maybe so but the dogs on the street know the sort of boys they are.

Not gonna argue re needing a  reason not to take a case as genuinely don't know.

GiveItToTheShooters

Yea well I don't doubt what type of people they are

GiveItToTheShooters

Yea they do, you can't be bluntly turned down for no reason

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 09, 2023, 10:17:30 PM
Away from politics, but he has chased for yrs, trying to nail his father's killers, but at the same time will represent someone involving in killings down south. Can't understand it. Solicitors / Barristers don't seem to have a line representing someone, even if they know they guilty as here.

Barrister and solicitors represent everyone, one of the reasons his father was murdered was due to representing people up for murder.

So we just don't do it?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea