Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

[trailer]

Does no harm for these establishment journo's to have to think twice before publishing these hit job stories on SF.

FF/FG using their media mates to try and cloud the issues prior to an election.

"The establishment"

[clarshack]

Seemed to have got into a awful habit of suing everyone these days, need a tougher skin than that.

They seem to have overtaken the DUP with all the suing.

[Itchy]

Some of the lawsuits are fair in that media have a responsibility to be neutral in and my opinion there is quite a lot of them that are in the pocket of the establishment. We have had this debate before. However this lawsuit for defamation by Kelly was never going to succeed as he had no chance to prove one of the important tiers of defamation - that his good character had been demeaned. Hard to do that in court when you've been convicted previously of bombing. Bit of an own goal by SF this one.

However that does not excuse what was a blatant lie by the journalist involved.

In that it was Kelly who fired the shot? Is that what you mean?

Was Kelly found guilty of shooting someone in the head?

Do you think people should be allowed to go around accusing people of x,y and z without proof just because they don't like them or their politics? Do you not think that such behaviour can be weaponised to knock down your political opponents by a whole manner of people?

[Itchy]

Does no harm for these establishment journo's to have to think twice before publishing these hit job stories on SF.

FF/FG using their media mates to try and cloud the issues prior to an election.

"The establishment"

I will give you an example. RTE.

RTE are in need of a massive bail out from Government. Do you think as a result they will aggressively go after the same people in the same way as they will go after the opposition? You'd have to be pretty naive to think they will.

[trailer]

Some of the lawsuits are fair in that media have a responsibility to be neutral in and my opinion there is quite a lot of them that are in the pocket of the establishment. We have had this debate before. However this lawsuit for defamation by Kelly was never going to succeed as he had no chance to prove one of the important tiers of defamation - that his good character had been demeaned. Hard to do that in court when you've been convicted previously of bombing. Bit of an own goal by SF this one.

However that does not excuse what was a blatant lie by the journalist involved.

In that it was Kelly who fired the shot? Is that what you mean?

Was Kelly found guilty of shooting someone in the head?

Do you think people should be allowed to go around accusing people of x,y and z without proof just because they don't like them or their politics? Do you not think that such behaviour can be weaponised to knock down your political opponents by a whole manner of people?

Just wondering which part you thought was "blatant lie" that's all.

[trailer]

Does no harm for these establishment journo's to have to think twice before publishing these hit job stories on SF.

FF/FG using their media mates to try and cloud the issues prior to an election.

"The establishment"

I will give you an example. RTE.

RTE are in need of a massive bail out from Government. Do you think as a result they will aggressively go after the same people in the same way as they will go after the opposition? You'd have to be pretty naive to think they will.

But only Mary Lou is suing RTE. There is a plethora of other cases. Are they all "the establishment"?

And they are suing the induvials in many cases and not the publications. But again "the establishment"

[Rossfan]

Seems the lads have been instructed to use the "attack is the best form of defence" strategy

[ThomasMullan]

It's very interesting that SF and DUP have no problems working together when it comes to dishing out money to their pet projects (at the expense of worthwhile charities). What a shower.

[Sportacus]

It's very interesting that SF and DUP have no problems working together when it comes to dishing out money to their pet projects (at the expense of worthwhile charities). What a shower.

And then buckle when they come under a bit of heat. It'll be the same hot air and lack of decision making when Stormont returns.

[Kidder81]

It's very interesting that SF and DUP have no problems working together when it comes to dishing out money to their pet projects (at the expense of worthwhile charities). What a shower.

And it was no surprise the organisations SF were intending to give hundreds of grand to instead of the disabled charity, the Hargeys in Market Development Assoc & LORAG. Basically two organisations run by SF, none of this is new though. Been going on for years

[ThomasMullan]

It's very interesting that SF and DUP have no problems working together when it comes to dishing out money to their pet projects (at the expense of worthwhile charities). What a shower.

And it was no surprise the organisations SF were intending to give hundreds of grand to instead of the disabled charity, the Hargeys in Market Development Assoc & LORAG. Basically two organisations run by SF, none of this is new though. Been going on for years

No surprise at all.

Are there any dyed in the wool SF supporters on this board that would be willing to offer their opinion on this? Aren't you sickened by it?

p.s. I'm not SDLP or Alliance or for any particular party really. I just can't get my head around how people just accept this type of thing from a party they vote for.

[trailer]

It's very interesting that SF and DUP have no problems working together when it comes to dishing out money to their pet projects (at the expense of worthwhile charities). What a shower.

And it was no surprise the organisations SF were intending to give hundreds of grand to instead of the disabled charity, the Hargeys in Market Development Assoc & LORAG. Basically two organisations run by SF, none of this is new though. Been going on for years

No surprise at all.

Are there any dyed in the wool SF supporters on this board that would be willing to offer their opinion on this? Aren't you sickened by it?

p.s. I'm not SDLP or Alliance or for any particular party really. I just can't get my head around how people just accept this type of thing from a party they vote for.

A decision taken away from the scrutiny of council then presented to be ratified. They have zero respect for democracy. An absolute carve up to shore up votes and support.

[ThomasMullan]

It's very interesting that SF and DUP have no problems working together when it comes to dishing out money to their pet projects (at the expense of worthwhile charities). What a shower.

And it was no surprise the organisations SF were intending to give hundreds of grand to instead of the disabled charity, the Hargeys in Market Development Assoc & LORAG. Basically two organisations run by SF, none of this is new though. Been going on for years

No surprise at all.

Are there any dyed in the wool SF supporters on this board that would be willing to offer their opinion on this? Aren't you sickened by it?

p.s. I'm not SDLP or Alliance or for any particular party really. I just can't get my head around how people just accept this type of thing from a party they vote for.

A decision taken away from the scrutiny of council then presented to be ratified. They have zero respect for democracy. An absolute carve up to shore up votes and support.

If there was money sloshing about that would be one thing but taking money off a charity for pet projects shows a level of cynicism off the charts.

[Eire90]

sinn fein don't like being criticised

[imtommygunn]

It's very interesting that SF and DUP have no problems working together when it comes to dishing out money to their pet projects (at the expense of worthwhile charities). What a shower.

It's a big pantomime - there's a you scratch my back I scratch yours mantra.

BTW criticism and saying you shot someone are a bit different. I don't see why anyone would have any problem with a law suit when you are faced with that other than because they want to have a go.