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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: March 23, 2018, 02:49:37 PM »
Mr. Jackson did not reasonably believe she was consenting when he penetrated her.

I think this is the key part, it seems to me that both sides could believe their story, that she believes she was raped while the lads believe she consented.
Its interesting to see that if that is the case they are innocent

GAA Discussion / Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
« on: March 19, 2018, 06:02:36 PM »
Seems like Mattie Donnelly was allowed the freedom of the pitch today, class player like that needs more attention ffs. Parsons seemed to be his man but looked like he struggled (from the highlights)

Andy should get 12 weeks but will probably get off as the ref dealt with it. Cavanagh's black shouldn't have been anything. Boyle's first was probably a red. Tyrone player's red was a very dirty challenge

Agree with that assessment, Andy moran should get the same punishment that connolly and comerford got last year for altercations with an official. Cavanaghs black was baffling, probably a call made from the linesman rather than deegan given he was right beside it. Boyle and mcnultys challenges were almost identical

Boyle and McNulty challenge were not near identical. McNultys was a challenge going for the ball, Iím not even sure he saw Keegan coming. Boyles was a late hit long after the ball was gone.
McNulty led with the elbow. Both were trampish tackles

GAA Discussion / Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
« on: March 18, 2018, 11:10:04 PM »
Andy Moran black carded for remonstrating with ref.
It wasnít for remonstrating he actually chest bumped him.

Terrible today, as bad as anything Iíve seen in the league from us. Exceptionally poor passing, very little tackling, no midfield. Everyone was off their game. But beat Donegal and we can forget about it.

Lee looks to have a broken collar bone, Cillians injury looked serious enough too. Boyler was lucky not to Get a straight red, filthy challenge.

Bad, bad day

Anytime I went to this pitch before I was driving but this time I plan to take the train. So I don't know the best way to get there from the railway station. I guess it's about three miles so I ain't gonna walk there because the weather will probably be bad.
What's the best way to get there; bus, taxi, rickshaw or whatever?

Walk it ya lazy bollix, it'll take you 30-40 mins

A game we have to win I think both for laying down a marker and our league safety. We have Dublin up next so could be looking at 2 pts from four games if we dont

Cann't wait for the May game, I think it will be the best in years

General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 09, 2018, 10:17:46 AM »
Ya. It's a well known fact that everyone reacts the same.  ::)

Broadly speaking they do. Thats why you have things like the five stages of grief, theres actually a name for it - Rape Trauma Syndrome.
I should avoid this thread but before I do,

Broadly speaking people do NOT react the same.
Yes there are 5 well land marked stages of grief that people generally pass through, however one person may linger in a shocked state far longer than someone else. One person may get stuck forever and not get to the stage of acceptance, another may linger long in anger or despair before moving on.
Like wise with Rape Trauma Syndrome, broadly speaking people do not react the same.
The evidence of the demeanor of the woman during that night and subsequent days does not contradict her claim that she was raped. Her demeanor during all that period can be perceived as being entirely consistent with a rape trauma experience.

Going by the defense's line of questioning so far and their focus on consent, I'd say the case will probably come down to,
did she give consent at the time AND can the defendants prove beyond reasonable doubt that she gave consent?
Did she give clear consent to all the sexual activity that was inflicted upon her that night?
Did she say no at any time?
If she didn't say no, why not? was she incapacitated? threatened? did she feel intimidated?
You say people broadly don't act the same and then go onto explain that people do broadly act the same but there are times that people deviate from this.

Going back to my original point, people in stressful situations tend to act in a similar manner. I would like to know if this ladies behavior is consistent with other rape victims. That is with the caveat that some peoples reactions are outside the norm, so non-consistency doesn't necessarily prove she wasn't raped but consistency could go a long way to helping her

General discussion / Re: The Whiskey Thread
« on: February 08, 2018, 03:42:35 PM »
Powers John's Lane is an excellent whiskey, high viscosity

General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 08, 2018, 02:11:54 PM »
It is a real eye opener to see some of what I thought were sensible individuals on this board indulging in the wildest of speculation and promulgating theories based upon zero evidence and pronouncing guilt or innocence when in possession of very few facts. Sad.
Says more about you if you'd consider Sfy sensible

General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: February 08, 2018, 02:10:04 PM »
I'd like to have seen Kearney dropped, passed it for a couple of years now, the Chicago game aside.

General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 08, 2018, 12:08:31 PM »
Ya. It's a well known fact that everyone reacts the same.  ::)

Broadly speaking they do. Thats why you have things like the five stages of grief, theres actually a name for it - Rape Trauma Syndrome.

General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 08, 2018, 12:01:49 PM »
In fairness she said "two and a third guy tried to get involved"

Her texts just seemed very calm, I'd like to see if thats normal. I'd presume rape victims follow relatively similar patterns and again I'd assume either you clam up and say nothing or you're hysterical.

General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 08, 2018, 11:43:20 AM »
I'm not sure how anyone could be certain on this case.

It seems the lads are at the least guilty of being d**kheads and that automatically makes people like Syf there assume they did it.

A lot of people I've spoken to about it seems to be siding with the lads. Her text messages seem very contrived, I'd love to hear the opinion of a psychologist which explains how those texts fit in with the behavior of others in the same situation

Mayo / Re: Mayo Club Football.
« on: January 29, 2018, 11:31:22 AM »
I thought it was just Hollymount lads wanting to split from Carramore again?

GAA Discussion / Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
« on: January 29, 2018, 11:25:44 AM »
Mayo 0-13 Monaghan 0-12 full time.

A bit of a smash and grab at the end. We'll take it!  :)

For sure. From my vantage point on the radio, it seems Caff had a good game. I hope he keeps it up. Regan and Douglas will also give Rochford food for thought after their scoring rate. Andy must be some boy. Monaghan, not for the first time lost the head it seems. Good start to the year. Kerry (who keep referring to last August's loss to Mayo as the worst thing that ever happened) up next. Revenge will surely be on their minds.
Lost their heads? You mean to include Ryan Wylie in that assessment, who picked up a 2nd yellow after Aiden O'Shea collapsed to the turf? A wise person would want to see that incident before making comment. 
The crucial difference according to the objective radio commentary sponsored by Sam's Diner, was the ref not seeing a foul in the last Monaghan attack and instead awarded a free out for a handled ball on the ground,  that led to Mayo scoring  a fine winner instead of Monaghan.

I'm presuming you didnt see it as you were commenting on the Kerry V Doengal.
It was directly across from me, Ryan Wylies was a straight red for throwing a punch at AOS. Of course AOS collapsed to the turf, no matter how hard the punch he was always going to do that, as would any intercounty footballer. It was a ridiculous thing to do, AOS was lying on the ball as Monaghan had a free out.
Kerr got a second yellow for what should have been a straight red, it was a dirty act on Boyle.

I'd agree whole heartedly about the free in for Monaghan at the end, stonewall and we got a free out.
There is a balance for that with Regan's free in the first half which was clearly inside the post and the umpire looked at Beggan who waved it wide before he followed suit.

Mayo had this in the bag from early on, never looked like losing until the last 5 minutes when they let Monaghan back into it, that coincided with DOC going off on a black

For Mayo
Clarke - poor kickouts
Full back line - all excellent, Caff  would be my MOTM
HB - Durcan & Boyle excellent, Nally good but wasteful at times
Midfield - Just ok, got a lot of ball. Gibbons was poor on their kickouts towards the end, letting Monaghan catch clean ball
HF - DOC was busy, KMcL good first half and kinda went out of it, AOS - ok
FF - Dougie - poor on the ball but two great 45s (little or no run up, two steps bang) Regan - excellent, got on a lot of ball and only wasted a few balls, reminded me of how Andy plays, a definitely improvement. Andy was Andy

Adam Gallagher - kicked a criminal ball short at a crucial time, unforgiveable
Shakram - harried well
COC - took on a long range free when he shouldn't have. Was busy trying to get in a row the rest of the time
Loftus - didnt see a lot of the ball
Ger McDonagh - again no ball

Great start for us, we have a tough schedule with our home games being Tyrone, Kerry and Dublin so we'll need this wins on the road I thing

Monaghan can feel aggrieved about that last free but not a lot else, poor discipline let them down

General discussion / Re: Running
« on: January 12, 2018, 10:41:58 PM »
How far are you looking to go?

I used to live in Oranmore, drive into GMIT and head for town from there, in along the quays
Round the racetrack is the other option

General discussion / Re: Off the Ball v Second Captains - So Who Won?
« on: January 10, 2018, 10:12:05 PM »
I donít pay for SC, in fact Iím going off them
Ken Earley is the next Ray Darcy, thinking his opinions are always right

The Harrington piece was excellent, says it like it is without being mad aggressive.

Agreed re Joe Molloy, heís really improved

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