Repeat of the 2016 All Ireland Semifinal
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 11, 2018, 10:50:45 AM
Repeat of the 2016 All Ireland Semifinal
And the 2002 Round 4 qualifier game.
Probably second toughest draw Mayo could have got?
Another slow start in this and it could be very ropy.
Quote from: moysider on June 11, 2018, 02:04:45 PM
Probably second toughest draw Mayo could have got?
Another slow start in this and it could be very ropy.
They don't play blanket defence which is a huge plus for Mayo and Tipp haven't got the momentum of their 2016 wins going into this game. Could turn out to be a rather easy draw for Mayo much like it was for Cork a few weeks ago.
Quote from: moysider on June 11, 2018, 02:04:45 PM
Probably second toughest draw Mayo could have got?
Another slow start in this and it could be very ropy.
How have Tipp been this year? They got hammered by Cork by the looks of it
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 11, 2018, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 11, 2018, 02:04:45 PM
Probably second toughest draw Mayo could have got?
Another slow start in this and it could be very ropy.
How have Tipp been this year? They got hammered by Cork by the looks of it
Should have been promoted to division 1, had a no show against cork so haven't a clue where we are at just now.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 11, 2018, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 11, 2018, 02:04:45 PM
Probably second toughest draw Mayo could have got?
Another slow start in this and it could be very ropy.
How have Tipp been this year? They got hammered by Cork by the looks of it
They were promoted to D2 but got hammered by Cork.
Tipp have really started to splutter after a good start to the year. Losing to what to my eyes is a poor Cork side by that margin would make you wonder if they can be competitive in this one.
Quote from: seafoid on June 11, 2018, 02:42:06 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 11, 2018, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 11, 2018, 02:04:45 PM
Probably second toughest draw Mayo could have got?
Another slow start in this and it could be very ropy.
How have Tipp been this year? They got hammered by Cork by the looks of it
They were promoted to D2 but got hammered by Cork.
Yeah. Well done Sea.
tipp could be dangerous they have all the hurlers back
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2018, 02:44:10 PM
Tipp have really started to splurt after a good start to the year. Losing to what to my eyes is a poor Cork side by that margin would make you wonder if they can be competitive in this one.
It was one shocking performance that came out of the blue, it was similar to yerselves in the replay against mayo where ye didn't turn up. It's worrying but like roscommon you'd like to think that one match was a freak result rather than a reflection of where we are. I'll be honest I've no clue how we will be against mayo but you could say the same for mayo looking at previous championships they only just seem to do enough more often than not
Seems like it's confirmed for 5pm Saturday the 23rd according to friends of tipp football
Quote from: tippabu on June 11, 2018, 02:51:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2018, 02:44:10 PM
Tipp have really started to splurt after a good start to the year. Losing to what to my eyes is a poor Cork side by that margin would make you wonder if they can be competitive in this one.
It was one shocking performance that came out of the blue, it was similar to yerselves in the replay against mayo where ye didn't turn up. It's worrying but like roscommon you'd like to think that one match was a freak result rather than a reflection of where we are. I'll be honest I've no clue how we will be against mayo but you could say the same for mayo looking at previous championships they only just seem to do enough more often than not
Well our replay came after drawing with the same opposition (Mayo are a lot stronger a team than the Leesiders) while fresh. That Cork team shipped a bad beating to us in the Hyde to end the league and an even worse one last week in a challenge match - it would have taken a serious under-performance to get hammered by them such is their own porous defence. It might be that Tipp simply put too much into the league and have ran out of steam. That's happened to a lot of teams. The pity is ye didn't beat Cavan and at least get to D1 for your efforts.
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2018, 03:02:32 PM
Quote from: tippabu on June 11, 2018, 02:51:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2018, 02:44:10 PM
Tipp have really started to splurt after a good start to the year. Losing to what to my eyes is a poor Cork side by that margin would make you wonder if they can be competitive in this one.
It was one shocking performance that came out of the blue, it was similar to yerselves in the replay against mayo where ye didn't turn up. It's worrying but like roscommon you'd like to think that one match was a freak result rather than a reflection of where we are. I'll be honest I've no clue how we will be against mayo but you could say the same for mayo looking at previous championships they only just seem to do enough more often than not
Well our replay cam after drawing with the same opposition (Mayo are a lot stronger a team than the Leesiders) while fresh. That Cork team shipped a bad beating to us in the Hyde to end the league and an even worse one last week in a challenge match - it would have taken a serious under-performance to get hammered by them such is their own porous defence. It might be that Tipp simply put too much into the league and have ran out of steam. That's happened to a lot of teams. The pity is ye didn't beat Cavan and at least get to D1 for your efforts.
That leeside team brought mayo to extra time on their way to meeting ye. Ye lost in the league to a very poor Down side, these things happen. No didnt put too much into the league, I know for a fact promotion wasnt even talked about until after the louth match. I dont really know to be honest what you can put the Cork game down to but April def didnt help us. Tipp expected a long run in the hurling and we as much as any county are under big pressure running off our club championship due to dual clubs. We used April to its full so most of the lads play club hurling and football and had intercounty training weeknights that may well have been a factor but as i said we simply just dont know. And yes, trust me it was a serious under performance from us. Cork werent anything special, Connolly had a brilliant game but it was more down to ourselves rather than them the scoreline was as bad as it finished.
Anyway, Mayo are the 2nd best team in ireland for the last number of years, theres no question of that. We will need to be at the top of our game and that may not be enough.
Quote from: tippabu on June 11, 2018, 06:02:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2018, 03:02:32 PM
Quote from: tippabu on June 11, 2018, 02:51:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2018, 02:44:10 PM
Tipp have really started to splurt after a good start to the year. Losing to what to my eyes is a poor Cork side by that margin would make you wonder if they can be competitive in this one.
It was one shocking performance that came out of the blue, it was similar to yerselves in the replay against mayo where ye didn't turn up. It's worrying but like roscommon you'd like to think that one match was a freak result rather than a reflection of where we are. I'll be honest I've no clue how we will be against mayo but you could say the same for mayo looking at previous championships they only just seem to do enough more often than not
Well our replay cam after drawing with the same opposition (Mayo are a lot stronger a team than the Leesiders) while fresh. That Cork team shipped a bad beating to us in the Hyde to end the league and an even worse one last week in a challenge match - it would have taken a serious under-performance to get hammered by them such is their own porous defence. It might be that Tipp simply put too much into the league and have ran out of steam. That's happened to a lot of teams. The pity is ye didn't beat Cavan and at least get to D1 for your efforts.
That leeside team brought mayo to extra time on their way to meeting ye. Ye lost in the league to a very poor Down side, these things happen. No didnt put too much into the league, I know for a fact promotion wasnt even talked about until after the louth match. I dont really know to be honest what you can put the Cork game down to but April def didnt help us. Tipp expected a long run in the hurling and we as much as any county are under big pressure running off our club championship due to dual clubs. We used April to its full so most of the lads play club hurling and football and had intercounty training weeknights that may well have been a factor but as i said we simply just dont know. And yes, trust me it was a serious under performance from us. Cork werent anything special, Connolly had a brilliant game but it was more down to ourselves rather than them the scoreline was as bad as it finished.
Anyway, Mayo are the 2nd best team in ireland for the last number of years, theres no question of that. We will need to be at the top of our game and that may not be enough.
Alright, just asking. How many hurlers could/ should be sprung into the football team now. The hurlers would have expected/hoped to play a lot longer into the summer. Can a football manager now leapfrog lads, that nailed their commitment to the hurling team, and piss off fellas that were footballers? I cant see how that can work.
As regards the Cork game, the 6 day turnaround was huge and unfair. Cork got a run on a Tipp that looked a bit dull. They will be fresher and more focused for this.
Mayo v Cork last August was a nightmare and we survived by a screed.
We had 4 nightmares last year before losing the final.
Quote from: moysider on June 12, 2018, 02:37:24 AM
Quote from: tippabu on June 11, 2018, 06:02:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2018, 03:02:32 PM
Quote from: tippabu on June 11, 2018, 02:51:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2018, 02:44:10 PM
Tipp have really started to splurt after a good start to the year. Losing to what to my eyes is a poor Cork side by that margin would make you wonder if they can be competitive in this one.
It was one shocking performance that came out of the blue, it was similar to yerselves in the replay against mayo where ye didn't turn up. It's worrying but like roscommon you'd like to think that one match was a freak result rather than a reflection of where we are. I'll be honest I've no clue how we will be against mayo but you could say the same for mayo looking at previous championships they only just seem to do enough more often than not
Well our replay cam after drawing with the same opposition (Mayo are a lot stronger a team than the Leesiders) while fresh. That Cork team shipped a bad beating to us in the Hyde to end the league and an even worse one last week in a challenge match - it would have taken a serious under-performance to get hammered by them such is their own porous defence. It might be that Tipp simply put too much into the league and have ran out of steam. That's happened to a lot of teams. The pity is ye didn't beat Cavan and at least get to D1 for your efforts.
That leeside team brought mayo to extra time on their way to meeting ye. Ye lost in the league to a very poor Down side, these things happen. No didnt put too much into the league, I know for a fact promotion wasnt even talked about until after the louth match. I dont really know to be honest what you can put the Cork game down to but April def didnt help us. Tipp expected a long run in the hurling and we as much as any county are under big pressure running off our club championship due to dual clubs. We used April to its full so most of the lads play club hurling and football and had intercounty training weeknights that may well have been a factor but as i said we simply just dont know. And yes, trust me it was a serious under performance from us. Cork werent anything special, Connolly had a brilliant game but it was more down to ourselves rather than them the scoreline was as bad as it finished.
Anyway, Mayo are the 2nd best team in ireland for the last number of years, theres no question of that. We will need to be at the top of our game and that may not be enough.
Alright, just asking. How many hurlers could/ should be sprung into the football team now. The hurlers would have expected/hoped to play a lot longer into the summer. Can a football manager now leapfrog lads, that nailed their commitment to the hurling team, and piss off fellas that were footballers? I cant see how that can work.
As regards the Cork game, the 6 day turnaround was huge and unfair. Cork got a run on a Tipp that looked a bit dull. They will be fresher and more focused for this.
Mayo v Cork last August was a nightmare and we survived by a screed.
We had 4 nightmares last year before losing the final.
Off the top of my head Seamus Kennedy, Noel and John McGrath, paudi feehan, Willie Connors and Paul Maher. Most given enough time would be pushing for a start but I don't think any will be asked in, we will most likely go with what we have for reasons you said. 100% concentration needed for mayo and no distractions.
6 day turn around was scandalous and Munster ccc should be ashamed of themselves but I don't think it affected us for the cork match, waterford game was a nothing game and we would have played an A v B match the week before anyway which would have been no different to waterford match. We've had 4 weeks between semi and potential Munster final or as it turns out now qualifier with mayo. Interesting to see how the long break without a game works out for us if it will be beneficial or the opposite effect
I was going to ask if it would be 3 or 4 weeks since Tipp had a game. Four weeks is long enough to get that loss out of the system imo.
I see Maurice Deegan is reffing this one.
Tipperary and Clare have to be the two most overrated teams in the country.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 12, 2018, 09:57:52 AM
Tipperary and Clare have to be the two most overrated teams in the country.
When were Galway demoted ?
I would say Cavan post promotion were pretty overrated as well and we have to see how good Roscommon are
Quote from: Jinxy on June 12, 2018, 09:57:52 AM
Tipperary and Clare have to be the two most overrated teams in the country.
I agree and disagree with you. We still haven't beaten a top team and that's something we need to do. I do think ourselves like alot other's are in amongst the best of the rest where anyone can beat anyone. We probably get talked up more than most die to our style of play and when it's working it's a joy to watch so that will always get talked up. In terms of overrated teams, cork, Meath and probably down would be some of the most overrated based off reputation of years gone by. To be honest are there many teams who aren't overrated? Who'd be an underrated team?
Meath are overrated? ;D
By who?
Quote from: Jinxy on June 12, 2018, 11:01:16 AM
Meath are overrated? ;D
By who?
Most people still talk up Meath.....i admitted I predicted yer game against Tyrone to be an easy Tyrone win and I was wrong. Tbf I based that on seeing Meath 1st hand and based on results the last few years. Tipp mayo is no different than Meath Tyrone in terms of the weaker counties chances. I hope we can put up as good a show as ye did and mayo are a bit off as Tyrone were because we'll need that as well if we are to cause an upset
I think there's a lot of truth in Tipp and Clare being overrated, and I say that as someone with a lot of grá for Tipp football. I think it stems from the 'breath of fresh air' aspect of both teams. I think a lot of it is, as tippabu says, down to the public's perception of how they play the game, and Kearns' media approach in particular.
In brass tacks though, they are 2 teams who have established themselves as solid, if unspectacular D2 sides, so they are at that level. They are a long way, in my opinion, off the top 3 or 4 in the country, but are probably well in the chasing pack.
The thing is, with counties like Clare and Tipp, you never stay still for long. So one of two things will happen in the next couple of years (irrespective of the results versus Mayo and Offaly).
1 - The solid work will continue, two relatively young teams. They get the odd couple of good lads pushing on, and the younger lads mature a bit more. They kick on, get promoted to D1, or at worst become established D2 teams. They start expecting good summers instead of hoping for them, and crucially they deliver.
2 - It stagnates. They struggle in D2 next year, get relegated in 2019 or 2020. Better players start to go stale and/or retire. Fresh blood struggles to establish itself as the momentum reverses. And before you know it, you're back to D3 or D4 and trying to start again.
I hope it's 1 for Tipp's sake. I fear it may be 2.
And of course there's the hurley stuff being the major sport in both Counties.
deep down no one rate clare or tipp as football teams. did anyone in mayo go 'oh damn' when they heard we fot Tipp and dispite theyre good showing last year against mayo no one would have been too worried had we got them again.
Like no one will consider this a a great mayo team until next September no one will realy have any worries about tipp or clare till they beat a proper good team
Quote from: rosnarun on June 12, 2018, 04:16:41 PM
deep down no one rate clare or tipp as football teams. did anyone in mayo go 'oh damn' when they heard we fot Tipp and dispite theyre good showing last year against mayo no one would have been too worried had we got them again.
Like no one will consider this a a great mayo team until next September no one will realy have any worries about tipp or clare till they beat a proper good team
Tipp beat Galway something Mayo haven't been able to do in their last 3 championship games. Clare biggest win was against Roscommon in 2016 they wouldn't have won that game if the rossies had extra week or two to prepare for that game IMO.
I don't think you'll find anyone who thinks Tipp or Clare are in the top 8 in the country. At least I haven't heard it said. Getting to the last 8, and being top 8 are not the same thing as you can be lucky/unlucky with the draw(s). To say they are both top 16 teams doesn't overrate them in my opinion. But as has been said time and time again, once you get outside the top 4/5 teams there is not much between the next 15 or so.
For the future Tipp seem better placed to become a (consistent) top 8 team, but they will still find it very difficult. As mentioned above hurling is number one in both counties. Kennedy and the McGrath's would make some difference for Tipp (there are no doubt others too). Likewise Podge Collins and Conor Cleary for Clare.
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deep down no one rate clare or tipp as football teams. did anyone in mayo go 'oh damn' when they heard we fot Tipp and dispite theyre good showing last year against mayo no one would have been too worried had we got them again.
Like no one will consider this a a great mayo team until next September no one will realy have any worries about tipp or clare till they beat a proper good team
Tipp beat Galway something Mayo haven't been able to do in their last 3 championship games. Clare biggest win was against Roscommon in 2016 they wouldn't have won that game if the rossies had extra week or two to prepare for that game IMO.
Easy to use that excuse now. That was Clare third game in 20 days at the time with a very pool of players. They were promoted against the odds that year against Roscommon who made semi final of Division 1
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Quote from: rosnarun on June 12, 2018, 04:16:41 PM
deep down no one rate clare or tipp as football teams. did anyone in mayo go 'oh damn' when they heard we fot Tipp and dispite theyre good showing last year against mayo no one would have been too worried had we got them again.
Like no one will consider this a a great mayo team until next September no one will realy have any worries about tipp or clare till they beat a proper good team
Tipp beat Galway something Mayo haven't been able to do in their last 3 championship games. Clare biggest win was against Roscommon in 2016 they wouldn't have won that game if the rossies had extra week or two to prepare for that game IMO.
Yeah I suppose that's true or Mayo knocked Kerry out of the championship last year , when did tipp last do that .
Quote from: shark on June 12, 2018, 04:40:19 PM
I don't think you'll find anyone who thinks Tipp or Clare are in the top 8 in the country. At least I haven't heard it said. Getting to the last 8, and being top 8 are not the same thing as you can be lucky/unlucky with the draw(s). To say they are both top 16 teams doesn't overrate them in my opinion. But as has been said time and time again, once you get outside the top 4/5 teams there is not much between the next 15 or so.
For the future Tipp seem better placed to become a (consistent) top 8 team, but they will still find it very difficult. As mentioned above hurling is number one in both counties. Kennedy and the McGrath's would make some difference for Tipp (there are no doubt others too). Likewise Podge Collins and Conor Cleary for Clare.
Conor McGrath and Cathal McInerney are probably 2 best club footballers in Clare but hurling is their priority.
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Quote from: shark on June 12, 2018, 04:40:19 PM
I don't think you'll find anyone who thinks Tipp or Clare are in the top 8 in the country. At least I haven't heard it said. Getting to the last 8, and being top 8 are not the same thing as you can be lucky/unlucky with the draw(s). To say they are both top 16 teams doesn't overrate them in my opinion. But as has been said time and time again, once you get outside the top 4/5 teams there is not much between the next 15 or so.
For the future Tipp seem better placed to become a (consistent) top 8 team, but they will still find it very difficult. As mentioned above hurling is number one in both counties. Kennedy and the McGrath's would make some difference for Tipp (there are no doubt others too). Likewise Podge Collins and Conor Cleary for Clare.
Conor McGrath and Cathal McInerney are probably 2 best club footballers in Clare but hurling is their priority.
Good point. Never thought of them
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Quote from: rosnarun on June 12, 2018, 04:16:41 PM
deep down no one rate clare or tipp as football teams. did anyone in mayo go 'oh damn' when they heard we fot Tipp and dispite theyre good showing last year against mayo no one would have been too worried had we got them again.
Like no one will consider this a a great mayo team until next September no one will realy have any worries about tipp or clare till they beat a proper good team
Tipp beat Galway something Mayo haven't been able to do in their last 3 championship games. Clare biggest win was against Roscommon in 2016 they wouldn't have won that game if the rossies had extra week or two to prepare for that game IMO.
Yeah I suppose that's true or Mayo knocked Kerry out of the championship last year , when did tipp last do that .
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deep down no one rate clare or tipp as football teams. did anyone in mayo go 'oh damn' when they heard we fot Tipp and dispite theyre good showing last year against mayo no one would have been too worried had we got them again.
Like no one will consider this a a great mayo team until next September no one will realy have any worries about tipp or clare till they beat a proper good team
Tipp beat Galway something Mayo haven't been able to do in their last 3 championship games. Clare biggest win was against Roscommon in 2016 they wouldn't have won that game if the rossies had extra week or two to prepare for that game IMO.
Yeah I suppose that's true or Mayo knocked Kerry out of the championship last year , when did tipp last do that .
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My point was we all including myself and more Mayo people besides tend to forget the achievements of this present team . Every year since 2013 I've been thinking they are finished and bang they go again , I haven't a clue how capable they are this year of having another crack at it but I'm going to have to stop writing them off and credit them for what they are doing.
I mean if Mayo end up in an all Ireland final again , wtf like it's unbelievable achievement
Quote from: Jinxy on June 12, 2018, 09:57:52 AM
Tipperary and Clare have to be the two most overrated teams in the country.
Have to disagree especially about Clare. It achievement for them to survive in Division 2 considering that they struggled in D4 up to 5/6 years ago. Some of the best club players in county are involved with hurlers. Others wont commit, Kilmurray Ibrickane the dominant club team for last 15 years only have one panel on county panel. West Clare the heartland of football is struggling with immigration. Kilkee and Kilrush are competing in the intermediate grade,Doonbeg not far behind as have to amalgamate at juvenile level. Unlike Tipp Clare have no success at minor/u21 level. What they do have is a quality manager in Colm Collins who gets the best out what they have. Gary Brennan, Jamie Malone and Eoin Cleary would make any intercounty team.
Tipp have the credentials to be a top team. They have the football and physicality but self belief seems to be their issue. Until they beat a division one team they won't get the recognition.
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Quote from: rosnarun on June 12, 2018, 04:16:41 PM
deep down no one rate clare or tipp as football teams. did anyone in mayo go 'oh damn' when they heard we fot Tipp and dispite theyre good showing last year against mayo no one would have been too worried had we got them again.
Like no one will consider this a a great mayo team until next September no one will realy have any worries about tipp or clare till they beat a proper good team
Tipp beat Galway something Mayo haven't been able to do in their last 3 championship games. Clare biggest win was against Roscommon in 2016 they wouldn't have won that game if the rossies had extra week or two to prepare for that game IMO.
Easy to use that excuse now. That was Clare third game in 20 days at the time with a very pool of players. They were promoted against the odds that year against Roscommon who made semi final of Division 1
In fairness it was also Roscommon 3rd game in as many days and they didn't have the momentum of winning instead they were off the back of a 11 point beating.
Extra time for Tipp to prepare and recover from their trimming should be a help for this game but worrying for them is with loads of momentum v Mayo in 2016 they still lost by 5 points
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deep down no one rate clare or tipp as football teams. did anyone in mayo go 'oh damn' when they heard we fot Tipp and dispite theyre good showing last year against mayo no one would have been too worried had we got them again.
Like no one will consider this a a great mayo team until next September no one will realy have any worries about tipp or clare till they beat a proper good team
Tipp beat Galway something Mayo haven't been able to do in their last 3 championship games. Clare biggest win was against Roscommon in 2016 they wouldn't have won that game if the rossies had extra week or two to prepare for that game IMO.
Yeah I suppose that's true or Mayo knocked Kerry out of the championship last year , when did tipp last do that .
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My point was we all including myself and more Mayo people besides tend to forget the achievements of this present team . Every year since 2013 I've been thinking they are finished and bang they go again , I haven't a clue how capable they are this year of having another crack at it but I'm going to have to stop writing them off and credit them for what they are doing.
I mean if Mayo end up in an all Ireland final again , wtf like it's unbelievable achievement
As it stands Mayo are expected to reach the super 8 (check odds) and once there the expectation will be to reach another All Ireland final especially if paired in the same group as Dublin and avoid them in the semi final.
Kerry another challenger have gone with youth that might work or backfire as for the rest Donegal,Galway,Tyrone etc I would consider any of them reaching this years AI final as unbelievable achievement .
I have the impression that Tipp didn't really kick on from 2016 . They were mediocre enough last year in the qfs.
Quote from: seafoid on June 12, 2018, 05:25:00 PM
I have the impression that Tipp didn't really kick on from 2016 . They were mediocre enough last year in the qfs.
They haven't and were real lucky to be playing division 2 football this year at all.
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deep down no one rate clare or tipp as football teams. did anyone in mayo go 'oh damn' when they heard we fot Tipp and dispite theyre good showing last year against mayo no one would have been too worried had we got them again.
Like no one will consider this a a great mayo team until next September no one will realy have any worries about tipp or clare till they beat a proper good team
Tipp beat Galway something Mayo haven't been able to do in their last 3 championship games. Clare biggest win was against Roscommon in 2016 they wouldn't have won that game if the rossies had extra week or two to prepare for that game IMO.
Easy to use that excuse now. That was Clare third game in 20 days at the time with a very pool of players. They were promoted against the odds that year against Roscommon who made semi final of Division 1
In fairness it was also Roscommon 3rd game in as many days and they didn't have the momentum of winning instead they were off the back of a 11 point beating.
Extra time for Tipp to prepare and recover from their trimming should be a help for this game but worrying for them is with loads of momentum v Mayo in 2016 they still lost by 5 points
Yeah but Roscommon had a much bigger panel and were able make 3/4 changes for Clare team. Clare had the same 20/21 lads.
Michael Quinlivan will need to be top of his game the next day. He didn't score off Keegan in 2016 game but was fouled 5/6 times by him.
Quote from: seafoid on June 12, 2018, 05:25:00 PM
I have the impression that Tipp didn't really kick on from 2016 . They were mediocre enough last year in the qfs.
They rely on Quinlivan and he wasn't 100% fit against Armagh after getting injured against Cork. Peter Acheson was huge loss too.
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Quote from: seafoid on June 12, 2018, 05:25:00 PM
I have the impression that Tipp didn't really kick on from 2016 . They were mediocre enough last year in the qfs.
They haven't and were real lucky to be playing division 2 football this year at all.
They were a stray kick of a ball away from being promoted to D1 this spring. Your narrative would read very differently but for that.
Some have a constantly moving goalpost as to what 'kicking on' even means. Monaghan, a media darling for supposedly establishing themselves at a high level, own losses to the likes of Down, Longford and Fermanagh in the championship and haven't even been particularly competitive in the AIQFs they have reached. It's all a matter of perspective and how you choose to look at the dataset.
Quote from: Gael85 on June 12, 2018, 05:36:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 12, 2018, 05:25:00 PM
I have the impression that Tipp didn't really kick on from 2016 . They were mediocre enough last year in the qfs.
They rely on Quinlivan and he wasn't 100% fit against Armagh after getting injured against Cork. Peter Acheson was huge loss too.
To say they 'rely' on Quinlivan is a bit harsh in that he's probably one of the best forwards in the game, and if we was on any other team in the country he'd be a major cog, in my opinion. But they do have scoring forwards in Conor Sweeney and Liam McGrath too, with a decent supporting cast from the half forward and half back lines. So yes, Quinlivan is very important, and if you shut him down it's a major blow to Tipperary, but they are not a one man band in the forward line.
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2018, 05:41:59 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 12, 2018, 05:30:42 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 12, 2018, 05:25:00 PM
I have the impression that Tipp didn't really kick on from 2016 . They were mediocre enough last year in the qfs.
They haven't and were real lucky to be playing division 2 football this year at all.
They were a stray kick of a ball away from being promoted to D1 this spring. Your narrative would read very differently but for that.
Some have a constantly moving goalpost as to what 'kicking on' even means. Monaghan, a media darling for supposedly establishing themselves at a high level, own losses to the likes of Down, Longford and Fermanagh in the championship and haven't even been particularly competitive in the AIQFs they have reached. It's all a matter of perspective and how you choose to look at the dataset.
Monaghan and Tyrone have been disappointing in that regard. Nobody really broke through to the top 4 in the last few years.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 12, 2018, 06:01:52 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 12, 2018, 05:36:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 12, 2018, 05:25:00 PM
I have the impression that Tipp didn't really kick on from 2016 . They were mediocre enough last year in the qfs.
They rely on Quinlivan and he wasn't 100% fit against Armagh after getting injured against Cork. Peter Acheson was huge loss too.
To say they 'rely' on Quinlivan is a bit harsh in that he's probably one of the best forwards in the game, and if we was on any other team in the country he'd be a major cog, in my opinion. But they do have scoring forwards in Conor Sweeney and Liam McGrath too, with a decent supporting cast from the half forward and half back lines. So yes, Quinlivan is very important, and if you shut him down it's a major blow to Tipperary, but they are not a one man band in the forward line.
Quinlivan is vital cog in that he go out to midfield/half forward and win a ball when nothing comes into FF line. He was hampered with that injury last year against Armagh and nobody stood up. The others 5 forwards only scored 0-3 from play between them. Will John McGrath or Seamus Kennedy be called up for Mayo game?
Quote from: Syferus on June 12, 2018, 05:41:59 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 12, 2018, 05:30:42 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 12, 2018, 05:25:00 PM
I have the impression that Tipp didn't really kick on from 2016 . They were mediocre enough last year in the qfs.
They haven't and were real lucky to be playing division 2 football this year at all.
They were a stray kick of a ball away from being promoted to D1 this spring. Your narrative would read very differently but for that.
Some have a constantly moving goalpost as to what 'kicking on' even means. Monaghan, a media darling for supposedly establishing themselves at a high level, own losses to the likes of Down, Longford and Fermanagh in the championship and haven't even been particularly competitive in the AIQFs they have reached. It's all a matter of perspective and how you choose to look at the dataset.
Division 2 was average at best this year Fermanagh would have gained promotion if in it. Monaghan won two provincial titles and I would give them a far chance of beating Mayo than Tipperary who haven't got close to winning a provincial title with this group of players.
Quote from: Gael85 on June 12, 2018, 05:31:23 PM
Michael Quinlivan will need to be top of his game the next day. He didn't score off Keegan in 2016 game but was fouled 5/6 times by him.
I take it Keegan will be back for this, if not then Quinlivan vs Cafferkey is a major mismatch to be exploited.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 12, 2018, 07:02:09 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 12, 2018, 05:31:23 PM
Michael Quinlivan will need to be top of his game the next day. He didn't score off Keegan in 2016 game but was fouled 5/6 times by him.
I take it Keegan will be back for this, if not then Quinlivan vs Cafferkey is a major mismatch to be exploited.
Keegan came on v limerick
Quote from: larryin89 on June 12, 2018, 07:23:03 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 12, 2018, 07:02:09 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 12, 2018, 05:31:23 PM
Michael Quinlivan will need to be top of his game the next day. He didn't score off Keegan in 2016 game but was fouled 5/6 times by him.
I take it Keegan will be back for this, if not then Quinlivan vs Cafferkey is a major mismatch to be exploited.
Keegan came on v limerick
He will have to start fullback.
I'm not so sure ,it's up the field he needs to be going imo not the other direction. Coen despite some saying he did well , he poses very little threat going forward , Parsons could open up the field at times , Keegan will have to go forward more than he usually does to compensate.
Caff is obviously doing good in training , he played very well v Monaghan in first league game and did sound the last day , maybe we just have to take a chance and put faith in him .
Still can't fathom why Kevin Keane was let go so early this year when it's an area of the field we are very lacking in.
Quote from: larryin89 on June 12, 2018, 08:24:24 PM
I'm not so sure ,it's up the field he needs to be going imo not the other direction. Coen despite some saying he did well , he poses very little threat going forward , Parsons could open up the field at times , Keegan will have to go forward more than he usually does to compensate.
Caff is obviously doing good in training , he played very well v Monaghan in first league game and did sound the last day , maybe we just have to take a chance and put faith in him .
Still can't fathom why Kevin Keane was let go so early this year when it's an area of the field we are very lacking in.
What's the story with Vaughan?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 12, 2018, 08:31:28 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 12, 2018, 08:24:24 PM
I'm not so sure ,it's up the field he needs to be going imo not the other direction. Coen despite some saying he did well , he poses very little threat going forward , Parsons could open up the field at times , Keegan will have to go forward more than he usually does to compensate.
Caff is obviously doing good in training , he played very well v Monaghan in first league game and did sound the last day , maybe we just have to take a chance and put faith in him .
Still can't fathom why Kevin Keane was let go so early this year when it's an area of the field we are very lacking in.
What's the story with Vaughan?
..he's not a very good or reliable footballer?
Ere we go again . Same aul spin , is there any Mayo footballer you'd rate at all syferus. Have ya not a connacht final to be worrying about , hope you had the yard brush up at the Hyde the weekend lad.
Quote from: larryin89 on June 12, 2018, 08:42:06 PM
Ere we go again . Same aul spin , is there any Mayo footballer you'd rate at all syferus. Have ya not a connacht final to be worrying about , hope you had the yard brush up at the Hyde the weekend lad.
Is Vaughan injured though?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 12, 2018, 08:44:41 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 12, 2018, 08:42:06 PM
Ere we go again . Same aul spin , is there any Mayo footballer you'd rate at all syferus. Have ya not a connacht final to be worrying about , hope you had the yard brush up at the Hyde the weekend lad.
Is Vaughan injured though?
2 weeks off I read somewhere.
Quote from: larryin89 on June 12, 2018, 08:42:06 PM
Ere we go again . Same aul spin , is there any Mayo footballer you'd rate at all syferus. Have ya not a connacht final to be worrying about , hope you had the yard brush up at the Hyde the weekend lad.
Keegan is the best footballer in the country and Higgins wasn't far behind him for much of his career. Parsons was a great midfielder before his injury too. Kevin McLouglin, AOS (when fit) and wee Andy are all quality players. Diarmuid O'Connor would be a good player too if he wasn't picking up his brother's bad habbits.
Just because I don't praise all your lovely lads doesn't mean I hate any or all of them. Vaughan has always been a liability in the Mayo team imho.
Word of warning for the mayo throngs coming down, parking gone very strict in the areas around semple due to emergency services needing access to the locals, just be wary if you're throwing the car up on the side of the road, carparks and the likes are better even if they can be a pain in the hole to get out of. I'd never be coming in from the side most of ye are so not sure what it's like for parking there
This is from the league game this year against Wexford, I'm sure one will be put on mayo pages for this game but it will probably be pretty much the same......
Important Notice for Supporters attending Semple Stadium Saturday evening
February 15, 2018/in County /
Supporters travelling to Semple Stadium this Sat evening for Tipp v Wexford should be aware that there will be no parking adjacent to the Stadium except you have an official car pass. Barriers will be erected and traffic will be stopped on the immediate approach roads to the Stadium.
Car Parking facilities are available at LIT Thurles (on the Nenagh Road), Thurles Greyhound Stadium (opp the entrance to Ardáin Ui Riain). VEC Grounds (Beside entrance to Ardáin Uí Riain). Parnell St Car Park , Liberty Square Car Park, St Patricks College (opp Cathedral), Munster Hotel Car Park (opp Cathedral).
Patrons are also advised that The Dome will be open from 5pm for live TV and Bar facilities, so our advice is to come early, park up and relax in the comfortable hospitality of Semple Stadium.
Tim Floyd
Rúnaí Choiste Chontae
Tiobráid Árann
secretary.tipperary@gaa.ie
Cheers tipoabu. Will be getting the train from Dublin - any recommendations for where to eat? Somewhere family friendly
Quote from: tippabu on June 20, 2018, 08:28:42 AM
This is from the league game this year against Wexford, I'm sure one will be put on mayo pages for this game but it will probably be pretty much the same......
Important Notice for Supporters attending Semple Stadium Saturday evening
February 15, 2018/in County /
Supporters travelling to Semple Stadium this Sat evening for Tipp v Wexford should be aware that there will be no parking adjacent to the Stadium except you have an official car pass. Barriers will be erected and traffic will be stopped on the immediate approach roads to the Stadium.
Car Parking facilities are available at LIT Thurles (on the Nenagh Road), Thurles Greyhound Stadium (opp the entrance to Ardáin Ui Riain). VEC Grounds (Beside entrance to Ardáin Uí Riain). Parnell St Car Park , Liberty Square Car Park, St Patricks College (opp Cathedral), Munster Hotel Car Park (opp Cathedral).
Patrons are also advised that The Dome will be open from 5pm for live TV and Bar facilities, so our advice is to come early, park up and relax in the comfortable hospitality of Semple Stadium.
Tim Floyd
Rúnaí Choiste Chontae
Tiobráid Árann
secretary.tipperary@gaa.ie
If you park out along the Nenagh Road near the racecourse you should be fine though? Typical of the way we get screwed over acrfoss the board now, won't let you park in reasonable spots (not obviously blocking junctions/exits etc.) but instead offer you car parks where they'll charge you for the privilege. Were at the same crap in Galway a few weeks ago. Had parked in the Crokes AC car park after a Tipp game a few years ago and took well over an hour to get out, never again.
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 20, 2018, 09:39:07 AM
Cheers tipoabu. Will be getting the train from Dublin - any recommendations for where to eat? Somewhere family friendly
Supermacs;)....hayes is usually good but I'd imagine it will be the spot most from mayo given it's history so could be jammed. The arch bar on the square also is grand, what you'd expect for pub grub. We'd be creatures of habit so usually it's same spots we'd go so apart from them not sure. I don't know if Bowes beside the station does food. Train is perfect way to be travelling for the game though if you can, hassle free
Quote from: Owenmoresider on June 20, 2018, 10:03:03 AM
Quote from: tippabu on June 20, 2018, 08:28:42 AM
This is from the league game this year against Wexford, I'm sure one will be put on mayo pages for this game but it will probably be pretty much the same......
Important Notice for Supporters attending Semple Stadium Saturday evening
February 15, 2018/in County /
Supporters travelling to Semple Stadium this Sat evening for Tipp v Wexford should be aware that there will be no parking adjacent to the Stadium except you have an official car pass. Barriers will be erected and traffic will be stopped on the immediate approach roads to the Stadium.
Car Parking facilities are available at LIT Thurles (on the Nenagh Road), Thurles Greyhound Stadium (opp the entrance to Ardáin Ui Riain). VEC Grounds (Beside entrance to Ardáin Uí Riain). Parnell St Car Park , Liberty Square Car Park, St Patricks College (opp Cathedral), Munster Hotel Car Park (opp Cathedral).
Patrons are also advised that The Dome will be open from 5pm for live TV and Bar facilities, so our advice is to come early, park up and relax in the comfortable hospitality of Semple Stadium.
Tim Floyd
Rúnaí Choiste Chontae
Tiobráid Árann
secretary.tipperary@gaa.ie
If you park out along the Nenagh Road near the racecourse you should be fine though? Typical of the way we get screwed over acrfoss the board now, won't let you park in reasonable spots (not obviously blocking junctions/exits etc.) but instead offer you car parks where they'll charge you for the privilege. Were at the same crap in Galway a few weeks ago. Had parked in the Crokes AC car park after a Tipp game a few years ago and took well over an hour to get out, never again.
I haven't a clue to tell you the truth, I'm always parking the opposite side and walking In from the square. Guards to have roads blocked and should have cones out defining exactly were you shouldn't be parking but wouldn't know enough to give you a clear yes or no answer.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dff13tCWsAAgvrW.jpg)
Parking out the Nenagh Road is fine. There are numerous little €5 car parks in fields, but you'll see a pile of people on both sides of the road all the way up from Thurles Crokes AC (which is a big car park itself) all the way out to the Newport/Borrisileigh junction on the Nenagh road.
will parking be much of an issue 10 K would be a good crowd at a match like this . thurles would be used to dealing with much more surely?
Any of the hurlers join up with the panel?
Quote from: rosnarun on June 20, 2018, 11:42:47 AM
will parking be much of an issue 10 K would be a good crowd at a match like this . thurles would be used to dealing with much more surely?
There was barely 8000 at the Limerick game and that is a handy spin down the motorway for a lot of Mayo folk. The longer trip time to Thurles, will affect the Mayo attendance imo. The Tipp footballers are very badly supported within Tipp, so I'd be very, very surprised if there are 10,000 at the game, never mind more than that.
Quote from: Beffs on June 20, 2018, 11:59:07 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 20, 2018, 11:42:47 AM
will parking be much of an issue 10 K would be a good crowd at a match like this . thurles would be used to dealing with much more surely?
There was barely 8000 at the Limerick game and that is a handy spin down the motorway for a lot of Mayo folk. The longer trip time to Thurles, will affect the Mayo attendance imo. The Tipp footballers are very badly supported within Tipp, so I'd be very, very surprised if there are 10,000 at the game, never mind more than that.
Id be surprised if 10k wasn't the minimum who'll be at it. Over 8000 at the limerick game which was a nothing game, tipp at least are a team who mayo will rate but still fully expect to beat. How many season tickets do mayo have? I know it's the full allocation and they'll need to keep up attendance for a final ticket if they get there. There will be a good tipp crowd at this one too, no where near the mayo one though
Anywhere decent to eat between Thurles and Limerick?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 21, 2018, 11:45:13 AM
Anywhere decent to eat between Thurles and Limerick?
There's Finnegans just off the motorway at Castletroy, was decent the one time I was in it. There's not much down the Newport side probably, if you ventured towards Nenagh you'd have a better choice I'd say.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 20, 2018, 11:43:37 AM
Any of the hurlers join up with the panel?
Yeah
Keith Higgins
🙄
Quote from: tippabu on June 20, 2018, 12:29:08 PM
Quote from: Beffs on June 20, 2018, 11:59:07 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 20, 2018, 11:42:47 AM
will parking be much of an issue 10 K would be a good crowd at a match like this . thurles would be used to dealing with much more surely?
There was barely 8000 at the Limerick game and that is a handy spin down the motorway for a lot of Mayo folk. The longer trip time to Thurles, will affect the Mayo attendance imo. The Tipp footballers are very badly supported within Tipp, so I'd be very, very surprised if there are 10,000 at the game, never mind more than that.
Id be surprised if 10k wasn't the minimum who'll be at it. Over 8000 at the limerick game which was a nothing game, tipp at least are a team who mayo will rate but still fully expect to beat. How many season tickets do mayo have? I know it's the full allocation and they'll need to keep up attendance for a final ticket if they get there. There will be a good tipp crowd at this one too, no where near the mayo one though
I think there will be a bit of semple stadium factor as well I haven't been at at match there since mayo lost to kerry in an under 21 final . after reseach I see it was 1995 ,
2 amazing teams kerry had d murphy daragh o sheah johnny Crowley d o cinnedie etc
and mayo had
John Madden; Fergal Costello, Ray Connelly; Tony Corcoran, Kenneth Mortimer, David Brady, John Casey David Nestor David Tiernan
As well as out 2 current medics Liam and seann moffatt
no wonder it went to s replay let hope the quality is as good tomorrow
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 20, 2018, 11:11:45 AM
Parking out the Nenagh Road is fine. There are numerous little €5 car parks in fields, but you'll see a pile of people on both sides of the road all the way up from Thurles Crokes AC (which is a big car park itself) all the way out to the Newport/Borrisileigh junction on the Nenagh road.
A right Hoor of a place to get out of after a game !
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 20, 2018, 11:43:37 AM
Any of the hurlers join up with the panel?
Speaking to a lad in the know lately and he tells me if Tipp get over Mayo there is the chance that at least 2 individuals will be called in !
Quote from: Horse Box on June 22, 2018, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 20, 2018, 11:11:45 AM
Parking out the Nenagh Road is fine. There are numerous little €5 car parks in fields, but you'll see a pile of people on both sides of the road all the way up from Thurles Crokes AC (which is a big car park itself) all the way out to the Newport/Borrisileigh junction on the Nenagh road.
A right Hoor of a place to get out of after a game !
You can sing that
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Chris Barrett - Belmullet
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Colm Boyle - Davitts
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
9. Lee Keegan - Westport
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Cian Hanley - Ballaghaderreen
13. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
14. Cillian O'Connor - Ballintubber(Captain)
15. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
Quote from: Horse Box on June 22, 2018, 01:40:10 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 20, 2018, 11:43:37 AM
Any of the hurlers join up with the panel?
Speaking to a lad in the know lately and he tells me if Tipp get over Mayo there is the chance that at least 2 individuals will be called in !
No chance
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 22, 2018, 09:27:19 PM
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Chris Barrett - Belmullet
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Colm Boyle - Davitts
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
9. Lee Keegan - Westport
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Cian Hanley - Ballaghaderreen
13. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
14. Cillian O'Connor - Ballintubber(Captain)
15. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
Cafferkey full back
Coen Center back
Ok, That is really the team ::)
Quote from: joemamas on June 22, 2018, 09:30:42 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 22, 2018, 09:27:19 PM
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Chris Barrett - Belmullet
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Colm Boyle - Davitts
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
9. Lee Keegan - Westport
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Cian Hanley - Ballaghaderreen
13. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
14. Cillian O'Connor - Ballintubber(Captain)
15. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
Cafferkey full back
Coen Center back
Ok, That is really the team ::)
Indeed. You have to hand it to Rochford, he always keeps us guessing...
Team for tomorrow :
1. Evan Comerford – Kilsheelan-Kilcash
2. Shane O'Connell – Golden-Kilfeacle
3. John Meagher – Loughmore-Castleiney
4. Alan Campbell – Moyle Rovers
5. Bill Maher – Kilsheelan-Kilcash
6. Robbie Kiely (Capt.) – Carbery Rangers
7. Jimmy Feehan – Killenaule
8. Liam Casey – Cahir
9. Steven O'Brien – Ballina
10. Josh Keane – Golden-Kilfeacle
11. Jack Kennedy – Clonmel Commercials
12. Brian Fox – Éire Óg Annacarty-Donohill
13. Conor Sweeney – Ballyporeen
14. Michael Quinlivan – Clonmel Commercials
15. Liam McGrath – Loughmore-Castleiney
Quote from: joemamas on June 22, 2018, 09:30:42 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 22, 2018, 09:27:19 PM
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Chris Barrett - Belmullet
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Colm Boyle - Davitts
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
9. Lee Keegan - Westport
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Cian Hanley - Ballaghaderreen
13. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
14. Cillian O'Connor - Ballintubber(Captain)
15. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
Cafferkey full back
Coen Center back
Ok, That is really the team ::)
Both will probably start but not in those positions. I can imagine D O Connor will start instead of C Hanley
Cracking day down here...gonna be a tough 70 minutes out there for the players. Great day for a few large bottle of bulmers though!!
The Mayo bench today. Not near the strength of the benches of the other top teams.
R Hennelly, D Drake,C Crowe, S Nally, E O Donoghue, D Kirby, C O Shea, E Regan, C Loftus, D O Connor , J Durcan
What is the average age of the Mayo starting 15 today? must be close to 30.
Haven't seen too much of Tipp but would it be a possibility of them throwing Jack Kennedy into the FF line alongside Quinlivan to cause Mayo some headaches back there? It could result in Aidan O'Shea and Keegan being deployed together in the full back line.
Tipp have made one change to team that was selected to start. Philip Austin for Liam Casey.
Not that it is believable that you have 5k on a GAA accumulator but I feel very sorry for you if you put Kildare in it.
J Durcan in for C Hanley the one change for Mayo
Looking like 15k here, still big queues outside
::)bMayo admirer Paul Earley doing co-commentary ::)
Quote from: joemamas on June 23, 2018, 05:01:12 PM
::)bMayo admirer Paul Earley doing co-commentary ::)
Christ ye have little to worry about if Paul Earley gets on your nerves. Probably the most decent human being doing punditry.
Tipp 0-0 Mayo 0-3. 6mins play Tipp looking very flat looking so far..
Out of nothing Tipp level. Poor defending by Mayo on that goal it must be said 0-4 to 1-1 10 mins played
Mayo looked brilliant when they went 4-0 up, but Clarke totally at fault for the goal.
20 mins played. Tipp 1-4 Mayo 0-5
Durcan on Quinlivan, complete mismatch. Deegan giving every decision Mayo way.
Tipp giving a good account of themselves so far and probably should be leading by more.
Dislocated shoulder for Seamus O Shea there by the looks of it.
Quote from: Syferus on June 23, 2018, 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 23, 2018, 05:01:12 PM
::)bMayo admirer Paul Earley doing co-commentary ::)
Christ ye have little to worry about if Paul Earley gets on your nerves. Probably the most decent human being doing punditry.
He cannot hide his delight at this point
Good game. Tipp have homework done. Mayo may need to grab a few hurls in the dressing room
Brainless by Boyle. Right in front of the ref. Cast iron black.
HT Tipp 1-7 Mayo 0-8. A deserved lead at the break for Tipp. A good enjoyable game. Boyle off with a back card and S O Shea off injured two big blows to Mayo.
Boyle was struggling today even before the black card. He's no spring chicken especially in that heat.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 23, 2018, 05:30:08 PM
Dislocated shoulder for Seamus O Shea there by the looks of it.
Running out of midfielders here. If that's dislocated we'll not see him for a while.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 23, 2018, 05:43:39 PM
Boyle was struggling today even before the black card. He's no spring chicken especially in that heat.
True, as is Coen who gave up three clear possession in first 25 mins, including one tap over from inside 21, this is above his level
Quote from: Jayop on June 23, 2018, 05:44:51 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 23, 2018, 05:30:08 PM
Dislocated shoulder for Seamus O Shea there by the looks of it.
Running out of midfielders here. If that's dislocated we'll not see him for a while.
Definitely dislocated.
Quote from: ballinaman on June 23, 2018, 05:51:56 PM
Quote from: Jayop on June 23, 2018, 05:44:51 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 23, 2018, 05:30:08 PM
Dislocated shoulder for Seamus O Shea there by the looks of it.
Running out of midfielders here. If that's dislocated we'll not see him for a while.
Definitely dislocated.
I only seen him walking off. Watching the game listening to the Tyrone game and I'm incapable of concentrating on both.
Who came on for Boyle?
Sides level again! Tipp 1-7 Mayo 0-10 39 mins played.
Tipp 2 points ahead again playing the better football. Tipp 1-9 Mayo 0-10. 46 mins played.
Tipp full forward line causing Mayo all types of problems they really should be about 6 or 7 points ahead now but leaving the door open for Mayo not wise...
Are the wheels coming off ?
Pure fluke goal.
Wtf just happened
totally against the run of play one of the luckiest ever goals and a point after it. Tipp 1-11 Mayo 1-12 53 mins played.
Mayo badly needed that lucky goal. They were looking dead on their feet with Tipp running through them with ease. Goal has given them an energy boost.
That very lucky goal a huge turning point in this game and would expect Mayo to kick on and win now.
Mayo 5 ahead
You'd rarely ever see a goal change a game so much. Mayo looked exhausted before it and Tipp look out on their feet ever since.
Mayo gunna Mayo.
FT Tipp 1-11 Mayo 1-19. Very harsh scoreline on Tipp in a game of what might have been for Tipp while Mayo live to fight another day.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 23, 2018, 06:30:59 PM
You'd rarely ever see a goal change a game so much. Mayo looked exhausted before it and Tipp look out on their feet ever since.
I can't ever recall a goal change a game so much. Tipp totally collapsed after it when at that stage they really should have led by about 6 points.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 23, 2018, 06:41:15 PM
FT Tipp 1-11 Mayo 1-19. Very harsh scoreline on Tipp in a game of what might have been for Tipp while Mayo live to fight another day.
I think the scoreline accurately reflects the level of Tipp's collapse. Extreme lack of character shown by Tipp. Not the first time a team has ran them to pieces in the final quarter this year either.
There's been many a time I've prepared the obituary for this team and at half time they looked in real trouble again. I think everyone can agree that Mayo give great value for the neutral fans. Most of the best games in the past 8 years have featured us.
In the days of blanket defence we still plug away with naive man on man defending.
Anyone calling that a fluke goal knows nothing about the game. He looked up saw goalie off his line and purposely chipped him. Absolutely meant it.
Quote from: Chimley on June 23, 2018, 06:46:53 PM
There's been many a time I've prepared the obituary for this team and at half time they looked in real trouble again. I think everyone can agree that Mayo give great value for the neutral fans. Most of the best games in the past 8 years have featured us.
In the days of blanket defence we still plug away with naive man on man defending.
Ye play with a sweeper just like every other team in Ireland..
Quote from: highorlow on June 23, 2018, 06:47:39 PM
Anyone calling that a fluke goal knows nothing about the game. He looked up saw goalie off his line and purposely chipped him. Absolutely meant it.
Lol he should be playing in the world cup if he meant that. Absolutely a fluke.
Quote from: highorlow on June 23, 2018, 06:47:39 PM
Anyone calling that a fluke goal knows nothing about the game. He looked up saw goalie off his line and purposely chipped him. Absolutely meant it.
Tongue firmly in cheek there ;D
Mayo love Maurice Deegan
Quote from: Syferus on June 23, 2018, 06:47:53 PM
Quote from: Chimley on June 23, 2018, 06:46:53 PM
There's been many a time I've prepared the obituary for this team and at half time they looked in real trouble again. I think everyone can agree that Mayo give great value for the neutral fans. Most of the best games in the past 8 years have featured us.
In the days of blanket defence we still plug away with naive man on man defending.
Ye play with a sweeper just like every other team in Ireland..
Answer me this then. Why do so many of our games end up as thrillers. We are obviously the second best team in the country but we still bring every game down to the wire.
All winners from round 2 out again next week.
Whew!! I hope the draw throws up a few crackers.
No possibility of Monahan v Tyrone in round three.
What an incredible bunch of dedicated footballers, I was almost brought to tears in the second half as when we went three down I thought our goose was cooked.
They don't owe anybody anything, this group have given us so many occasions to be proud Mayo people, today just another one.
Do they have to improve yes, that is for another day.
Quote from: Chimley on June 23, 2018, 07:00:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 23, 2018, 06:47:53 PM
Quote from: Chimley on June 23, 2018, 06:46:53 PM
There's been many a time I've prepared the obituary for this team and at half time they looked in real trouble again. I think everyone can agree that Mayo give great value for the neutral fans. Most of the best games in the past 8 years have featured us.
In the days of blanket defence we still plug away with naive man on man defending.
Ye play with a sweeper just like every other team in Ireland..
Answer me this then. Why do so many of our games end up as thrillers. We are obviously the second best team in the country but we still bring every game down to the wire.
Because the sweeper isn't very good
Anyone have a video of Mayo goal?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 23, 2018, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: Chimley on June 23, 2018, 07:00:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 23, 2018, 06:47:53 PM
Quote from: Chimley on June 23, 2018, 06:46:53 PM
There's been many a time I've prepared the obituary for this team and at half time they looked in real trouble again. I think everyone can agree that Mayo give great value for the neutral fans. Most of the best games in the past 8 years have featured us.
In the days of blanket defence we still plug away with naive man on man defending.
Poor oul Keith is not a sweeper. Now we developed McLoughlin in to a very decent sweeper a few years ago. That's gone out the window for some reason.
Ye play with a sweeper just like every other team in Ireland..
Answer me this then. Why do so many of our games end up as thrillers. We are obviously the second best team in the country but we still bring every game down to the wire.
Because the sweeper isn't very good
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fz9Z7UAxCjs
Quote from: Chimley on June 23, 2018, 07:00:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 23, 2018, 06:47:53 PM
Quote from: Chimley on June 23, 2018, 06:46:53 PM
There's been many a time I've prepared the obituary for this team and at half time they looked in real trouble again. I think everyone can agree that Mayo give great value for the neutral fans. Most of the best games in the past 8 years have featured us.
In the days of blanket defence we still plug away with naive man on man defending.
Ye play with a sweeper just like every other team in Ireland..
Answer me this then. Why do so many of our games end up as thrillers. We are obviously the second best team in the country but we still bring every game down to the wire.
Supporters of defensive teams think playing a forward or midfielder as a sweeper is the same as playing a defender as a sweeper.
Very impressive by Mayo after the flukey goal. Different league to Tipp, who had battled well up to that. Quinlivan is beautiful to watch, and they've a few great runners, but were well overrun in the 2nd half after the goal
Quote from: cornetto on June 23, 2018, 07:02:42 PM
All winners from round 2 out again next week.
Whew!! I hope the draw throws up a few crackers.
No possibility of Monahan v Tyrone in round three.
Open draw isn't it , so all pairings a possibility
Attendance?
Quote from: Hound on June 23, 2018, 08:06:49 PM
Quote from: Chimley on June 23, 2018, 07:00:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 23, 2018, 06:47:53 PM
Quote from: Chimley on June 23, 2018, 06:46:53 PM
There's been many a time I've prepared the obituary for this team and at half time they looked in real trouble again. I think everyone can agree that Mayo give great value for the neutral fans. Most of the best games in the past 8 years have featured us.
In the days of blanket defence we still plug away with naive man on man defending.
Ye play with a sweeper just like every other team in Ireland..
Answer me this then. Why do so many of our games end up as thrillers. We are obviously the second best team in the country but we still bring every game down to the wire.
Supporters of defensive teams think playing a forward or midfielder as a sweeper is the same as playing a defender as a sweeper.
Very impressive by Mayo after the flukey goal. Different league to Tipp, who had battled well up to that. Quinlivan is beautiful to watch, and they've a few great runners, but were well overrun in the 2nd half after the goal
We didn't play a full time sweeper today. As a result, when we did, the sweeper wasn't deep enough to be effective in providing cover to the FB back line.
Our half back line was playing very high up the pitch which meant that any time Tipperary won the ball at MF, there was a huge gap in front of our FB line for them to run into or play a ball in in front of their forwards.
Overall a decent result for us, we were on the ropes ten mins into the second half but took control at MF from the 10-25th minute of the second half and scored on most of those attacks.
Keegan improved hugely in the second half, he was lost in the first half which is maybe not surprising when he's not used to that position. Doc was excellent today, motm for me.
Losing our second midfielder for the season pretty much f*cks us though, even if we make the super 8s it means our bench is weak.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 23, 2018, 08:16:16 PM
Quote from: cornetto on June 23, 2018, 07:02:42 PM
All winners from round 2 out again next week.
Whew!! I hope the draw throws up a few crackers.
No possibility of Monahan v Tyrone in round three.
Open draw isn't it , so all pairings a possibility
Wrong, Tubberman. Tyrone cannot play Monaghan, as repeat pairings are to be avoided.
Quote from: Hound on June 23, 2018, 08:06:49 PM
Quote from: Chimley on June 23, 2018, 07:00:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 23, 2018, 06:47:53 PM
Quote from: Chimley on June 23, 2018, 06:46:53 PM
There's been many a time I've prepared the obituary for this team and at half time they looked in real trouble again. I think everyone can agree that Mayo give great value for the neutral fans. Most of the best games in the past 8 years have featured us.
In the days of blanket defence we still plug away with naive man on man defending.
Ye play with a sweeper just like every other team in Ireland..
Answer me this then. Why do so many of our games end up as thrillers. We are obviously the second best team in the country but we still bring every game down to the wire.
Supporters of defensive teams think playing a forward or midfielder as a sweeper is the same as playing a defender as a sweeper.
Very impressive by Mayo after the flukey goal. Different league to Tipp, who had battled well up to that. Quinlivan is beautiful to watch, and they've a few great runners, but were well overrun in the 2nd half after the goal
Exactly.
Higgins or Keegan being left with nobody to mark is not the same as Tipp bringing back Brian Fox as sweeper. Roscommon bring back Kilroy who is also a forward.
Tipp ought to regret not going man to man. They have some great players and we were there for the taking except for this defensive fad now that all so called weaker teams play.
We might have to call Jason Gibbons back to the panel. I was surprised he was omitted from it anyhow.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 23, 2018, 08:16:16 PM
Quote from: cornetto on June 23, 2018, 07:02:42 PM
All winners from round 2 out again next week.
Whew!! I hope the draw throws up a few crackers.
No possibility of Monahan v Tyrone in round three.
Open draw isn't it , so all pairings a possibility
Not if met previously I believe. Thank God Mayo are still in it.
Quote from: highorlow on June 23, 2018, 11:00:10 PM
Tipp ought to regret not going man to man. They have some great players and we were there for the taking except for this defensive fad now that all so called weaker teams play.
We might have to call Jason Gibbons back to the panel. I was surprised he was omitted from it anyhow.
I heard that he was dropped because of a long-standing injury but I can't confirm this. Barry Moran at this stage of his career wouldn't be as effective as Tom Parsons or Seamie. I remember Farr saying before the Galway game that we would be in trouble when Seamie tires and is taken off- or something like that. Looks like his fears could be well-founded.
Who is your midfield next week? Does Willie Joe still have a pair of boots?
QuoteDoes Willie Joe still have a pair of boots?
Spring loaded
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 23, 2018, 06:41:15 PM
FT Tipp 1-11 Mayo 1-19. Very harsh scoreline on Tipp in a game of what might have been for Tipp while Mayo live to fight another day.
Why was it harsh , you're an awful p***k don't ya think. Sick to my balls listening to want ers like you . What was harsh about it , have you ever played football, you batter a team that are not at your level in the last period cause they haven't the legs nor strength to keep with ya .
Quote from: larryin89 on June 24, 2018, 01:51:58 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 23, 2018, 06:41:15 PM
FT Tipp 1-11 Mayo 1-19. Very harsh scoreline on Tipp in a game of what might have been for Tipp while Mayo live to fight another day.
Why was it harsh , you're an awful p***k don't ya think. Sick to my balls listening to want ers like you . What was harsh about it , have you ever played football, you batter a team that are not at your level in the last period cause they haven't the legs nor strength to keep with ya .
Lol....Mayo could/should have had about five goals. It could have been 20 points
Quote from: larryin89 on June 24, 2018, 01:51:58 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 23, 2018, 06:41:15 PM
FT Tipp 1-11 Mayo 1-19. Very harsh scoreline on Tipp in a game of what might have been for Tipp while Mayo live to fight another day.
Why was it harsh , you're an awful p***k don't ya think. Sick to my balls listening to want ers like you . What was harsh about it , have you ever played football, you batter a team that are not at your level in the last period cause they haven't the legs nor strength to keep with ya .
Best not to post on feed of drink Larry. If you need reminding Mayo got a lucky goal totally against the run of play that changed the course of the game. For 50 of the 70 mins Tipp gave as good as they got and didn't deserve to lose by a margin of 8 points.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 24, 2018, 02:05:18 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 24, 2018, 01:51:58 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 23, 2018, 06:41:15 PM
FT Tipp 1-11 Mayo 1-19. Very harsh scoreline on Tipp in a game of what might have been for Tipp while Mayo live to fight another day.
Why was it harsh , you're an awful p***k don't ya think. Sick to my balls listening to want ers like you . What was harsh about it , have you ever played football, you batter a team that are not at your level in the last period cause they haven't the legs nor strength to keep with ya .
Best not to post on feed of drink Larry. If you need reminding Mayo got a lucky goal totally against the run of play that changed the course of the game. For 50 of the 70 mins Tipp gave as good as they got and didn't deserve to lose by a margin of 8 points.
I don't know why you're defending one of your alt accounts so openly and quickly on this of all topics, but even though Larrin said it in the most obnoxious way posssible he's entirely correct that the scoreline accurately reflected the level of Tipp's collapse. You can't not turn up for 20 minutes of a match and then 'undeservedly' get hammered.
Quote from: Syferus on June 24, 2018, 02:10:07 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 24, 2018, 02:05:18 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 24, 2018, 01:51:58 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 23, 2018, 06:41:15 PM
FT Tipp 1-11 Mayo 1-19. Very harsh scoreline on Tipp in a game of what might have been for Tipp while Mayo live to fight another day.
Why was it harsh , you're an awful p***k don't ya think. Sick to my balls listening to want ers like you . What was harsh about it , have you ever played football, you batter a team that are not at your level in the last period cause they haven't the legs nor strength to keep with ya .
Best not to post on feed of drink Larry. If you need reminding Mayo got a lucky goal totally against the run of play that changed the course of the game. For 50 of the 70 mins Tipp gave as good as they got and didn't deserve to lose by a margin of 8 points.
I don't know why you're defending one of your alt accounts so openly and quickly on this of all topics, but even though Larrin said it in the most obnoxious way posssible he's entirely correct that the scoreline accurately reflected the level of Tipp's collapse. You can't not turn up for 20 minutes of a match and then 'undeservedly' get hammered.
Defending one of my alt accounts what are you on about? just one example for you 2015 AI semi final Mayo lost by 7 points to Dublin few if any thought Dublin deserved to win by that margin. The final margin sometimes doesn't tell the full tale of 70 minute game.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0623/972752-seamie-oshea-out/
Mayo remind me of Gladiator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYNWgLJNW9g
What's the story with Vaughan? He'd be another option at full back and Midfield. Also any update on B Harrison?
Diarmuid should go midfield IMO
Cian Hanley looks like bambi on ice trying a solo but then so does Kirby
I do wonder about supporters sometimes, do they have any clue about football.
There was a group of lads behind me on Saturday, around the 60th minute Mayo got hold of the ball, maybe 5 points up and held onto it for a good 2-3 minutes, back and forward. It ended with Keegan kicking a point but even if it hadn't my point would stand.
The boys behind me weren't happy, "this is the sort of shite now and we'll get caught and lose the ball", all of them disgusted.
Its literally the first rule of football, if we have the ball they can't score. I know its not nice to watch but we're winning and they are closing the game out, its the equivalent of running the ball into the corner in soccer or sticking the ball up ur jumper in rugby. It takes composure, its the smart thing to do.
Having possession is the first step towards losing possession.
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:04:53 AM
Having possession is the first step towards losing possession.
Losing possession is therefore the first step towards regaining possession
Possessions are fleeting...
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:21:57 AM
Possessions are fleeting...
Exactly my point Jinxy. Like love you have to grab it when you can and not let go.
I'm glad we're on the same page
AOS, McLaughlin & Doherty all played well especially in the 2nd half and DOC had a great impact when he came on. Boyle looked well of the pace but think it was last August before he got going.
I assume James Durcan is ahead of Hanley, Loftus & Regan in the pecking order although will Hanley get a start the next day if Mayo go with DOC & AOS at midfield?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 24, 2018, 10:52:57 PM
Diarmuid should go midfield IMO
Cian Hanley looks like bambi on ice trying a solo but then so does Kirby
He looks like exactly what he is, an athletic person playing a sport they don't play. He doesn't look like a footballer at all. Extremely awkward soloing and has brought a habit of handpassing along the ground from the Aussie. Caught in possession far too often as well.
Just as an aside, we only had one point off the bench in this match despite getting the last 9 scores of the game which does not bode well for us
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 27, 2018, 12:27:51 AM
Just as an aside, we only had one point off the bench in this match despite getting the last 9 scores of the game which does not bode well for us
I remarked about the Mayo bench before the game, saying it was not as strong as it should be. B Moran,B Harrison,D Vaughan,N Douglas are all now expected to return on Saturday which should make the bench a bit stronger.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 27, 2018, 12:35:32 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 27, 2018, 12:27:51 AM
Just as an aside, we only had one point off the bench in this match despite getting the last 9 scores of the game which does not bode well for us
I remarked about the Mayo bench before the game, saying it was not as strong as it should be. B Moran,B Harrison,D Vaughan,N Douglas are all now expected to return on Saturday which should make the bench a bit stronger.
Make the bench stronger all right but doesn't exactly do a whole lot in terms of improving the scoring power.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 27, 2018, 03:28:11 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 27, 2018, 12:35:32 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 27, 2018, 12:27:51 AM
Just as an aside, we only had one point off the bench in this match despite getting the last 9 scores of the game which does not bode well for us
I remarked about the Mayo bench before the game, saying it was not as strong as it should be. B Moran,B Harrison,D Vaughan,N Douglas are all now expected to return on Saturday which should make the bench a bit stronger.
Make the bench stronger all right but doesn't exactly do a whole lot in terms of improving the scoring power.
Maybe not but have to take into account that between them Andy Moran and Cillian O Connor only scored 0-1 from play last Saturday and the chance of that happening again against Kildare is very slim.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 27, 2018, 04:46:36 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 27, 2018, 03:28:11 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 27, 2018, 12:35:32 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 27, 2018, 12:27:51 AM
Just as an aside, we only had one point off the bench in this match despite getting the last 9 scores of the game which does not bode well for us
I remarked about the Mayo bench before the game, saying it was not as strong as it should be. B Moran,B Harrison,D Vaughan,N Douglas are all now expected to return on Saturday which should make the bench a bit stronger.
Make the bench stronger all right but doesn't exactly do a whole lot in terms of improving the scoring power.
Maybe not but have to take into account that between them Andy Moran and Cillian O Connor only scored 0-1 from play last Saturday and the chance of that happening again against Kildare is very slim.
True and the Kildare defence doesn't exactly look the most secure.