Club transfers

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BallyroanAbu

Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on January 31, 2017, 09:22:07 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on January 31, 2017, 08:57:29 AM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on January 31, 2017, 08:20:26 AM
How does it work with hurling and football? If a player plays in a competition and then transfers he is allowed finish out the competitions he started before the transfer. What if he played 1st round league and cship football with a club and then transferred. Could he play hurling league and championship with new club while also finishing league and cship football with previous club. Not sure who this would apply to but just curious if there is any rule against it?

He can play league and championship for two different clubs at the same time, as was the case with Ballyea forward Niall Deasy who played a Munster final one week in 2016 and a Dublin league final the following for his other club. He transferred to Dublin, and then back before playing championship, but had played league and was eligible to continue playing in that competition.

The answer is no, if you play championship of any description in either code you cannot play with a second club in championship that year.   However should you play league or cup competition with another club you can play championship in the same year as they are not seen as been the same competition. Thus you can play league or Kelly cup in Laois and then go on and transfer and play championship hurling or football in another county.  However if you go and play championship junior c hurling in April you cannot play any level of championship Hurling or Football with another team in that year.  I am 100% of this rule in Ireland and UK

hurlingmad

Quote from: BallyroanAbu on January 31, 2017, 10:40:59 AM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on January 31, 2017, 09:22:07 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on January 31, 2017, 08:57:29 AM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on January 31, 2017, 08:20:26 AM
How does it work with hurling and football? If a player plays in a competition and then transfers he is allowed finish out the competitions he started before the transfer. What if he played 1st round league and cship football with a club and then transferred. Could he play hurling league and championship with new club while also finishing league and cship football with previous club. Not sure who this would apply to but just curious if there is any rule against it?

He can play league and championship for two different clubs at the same time, as was the case with Ballyea forward Niall Deasy who played a Munster final one week in 2016 and a Dublin league final the following for his other club. He transferred to Dublin, and then back before playing championship, but had played league and was eligible to continue playing in that competition.

The answer is no, if you play championship of any description in either code you cannot play with a second club in championship that year.   However should you play league or cup competition with another club you can play championship in the same year as they are not seen as been the same competition. Thus you can play league or Kelly cup in Laois and then go on and transfer and play championship hurling or football in another county.  However if you go and play championship junior c hurling in April you cannot play any level of championship Hurling or Football with another team in that year.  I am 100% of this rule in Ireland and UK
so johnny plays intermwdiate for say athy for talks sake and plays the league and pre season and can transfer to crettyard for example to pkay laois championship? No rules broken?

SpeculativeEffort

Quote from: BallyroanAbu on January 31, 2017, 10:40:59 AM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on January 31, 2017, 09:22:07 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on January 31, 2017, 08:57:29 AM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on January 31, 2017, 08:20:26 AM
How does it work with hurling and football? If a player plays in a competition and then transfers he is allowed finish out the competitions he started before the transfer. What if he played 1st round league and cship football with a club and then transferred. Could he play hurling league and championship with new club while also finishing league and cship football with previous club. Not sure who this would apply to but just curious if there is any rule against it?

He can play league and championship for two different clubs at the same time, as was the case with Ballyea forward Niall Deasy who played a Munster final one week in 2016 and a Dublin league final the following for his other club. He transferred to Dublin, and then back before playing championship, but had played league and was eligible to continue playing in that competition.

The answer is no, if you play championship of any description in either code you cannot play with a second club in championship that year.   However should you play league or cup competition with another club you can play championship in the same year as they are not seen as been the same competition. Thus you can play league or Kelly cup in Laois and then go on and transfer and play championship hurling or football in another county.  However if you go and play championship junior c hurling in April you cannot play any level of championship Hurling or Football with another team in that year.  I am 100% of this rule in Ireland and UK

You have explained that well in fairness.
However this means that under GAA rules senior hurling c'ship in Cork is the same competition as junior b football championship in Fermanagh when the 2 are in no way linked. The teams could never play each other.
In other games such as soccer or rugby you can be cup tied by playing in a competition with a club before joining a different club who compete in the same competition.
This makes sense as a player playing in the same competition for two clubs would skew results and therefore be unfair.
What is the GAA rationale for pretending  these competitions are linked in some way? Is it merely to keep players tied to one club for football and hurling.
If that is the case why can players play hurling and football for different clubs within a county?

On a related point, if you can only play c'ship in one county in one year then how can UCC and CIT students play Cork c'ship and c'ship in their home county in the same year?
What rule governs this?

GAA realy has some fascinatingly complicated rules.

Downtheroad

On the Leinster GAA website, I see James Hilliard (Mountmellick) is going to St Marcas. 

The Monument Road

I'm away from the scene for a few weeks and am wondering if any transfers were granted. I know a few from junior clubs were looking to transfer to senior clubs.

Bueller

Quote from: The Monument Road on February 01, 2017, 12:24:16 PM
I'm away from the scene for a few weeks and am wondering if any transfers were granted. I know a few from junior clubs were looking to transfer to senior clubs.
Laois has no transfer by law. No internal transfer can be granted until the fudge by our executive at the co convention is corrected.

The Monument Road

Quote from: Bueller on February 01, 2017, 12:30:19 PM
Quote from: The Monument Road on February 01, 2017, 12:24:16 PM
I'm away from the scene for a few weeks and am wondering if any transfers were granted. I know a few from junior clubs were looking to transfer to senior clubs.
Laois has no transfer by law. No internal transfer can be granted until the fudge by our executive at the co convention is corrected.
I've seen you quote that a few times Bueller. Can you explain.

clonadmad

Isnt there an embargo on all transfers within the County until the whole Rural to Urban Club (Portlaoise)issue is resolved?.

les Antiques

Yes there is an embargo in place . However also included in the terms and conditions of this 'embargo are many loopholes that have been obviously targeted .

Goku

Did the Transfer of Quinlan from Kyle to B/K go through after?

clonadmad

Quote from: les Antiques on February 01, 2017, 01:58:14 PM
Yes there is an embargo in place . However also included in the terms and conditions of this 'embargo are many loopholes that have been obviously targeted .

Will be interesting to see if any club or player will test said embargo

Pablo Escobar

Quote from: Goku on February 01, 2017, 02:27:33 PM
Did the Transfer of Quinlan from Kyle to B/K go through after?

Deadline has been extended until March apparently

clonadmad

Special Convention is scheduled for this evening, Wednesday, at 8pm sharp, with representation the same as County Committee at one person per Club. Motion for discussion has been already circulated. It is important to note that our Byelaws will not be approved at Central Council until we comply with DRA directive on our Transfer Byelaws, so if this motion is not passed, we must redraft and put before a further Special Convention. As a consequence no Transfers or Attachment to First Clubs will be dealt with until our Byelaws are approved by Central Council.


From the County Board in the last 2 hours

hurlingmad

Quote from: Goku on February 01, 2017, 02:27:33 PM
Did the Transfer of Quinlan from Kyle to B/K go through after?

Kyle denied his transfer along with Adrian Kelly who wants to go back to his home club in Ballinahinch in Tipperary which is quite bitter considering its his home club

Heard that from a member of B/K at work

Downtheroad

I reckon meeting tonight will sort out byelaws. As regards home club, players can always go back to it. Don't think Kyle can stop that.