While the fixtures list will be out soon it has emerged that there will be no Colleges/Uni sides in the mix from 2018 onwards.
I welcome this return to the traditional format. None of your fancy dan United Nations 'students' diluting what is the greatest GAA competition of them all.
Wonder will the 'Bihatimber' competition be resurrected as well now?
I'd say ye'll have a Shield and a Plate as well :D
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 02, 2017, 01:43:05 PM
While the fixtures list will be out soon it has emerged that there will be no Colleges/Uni sides in the mix from 2018 onwards.
I welcome this return to the traditional format. None of your fancy dan United Nations 'students' diluting what is the greatest GAA competition of them all.
Wonder will the 'Bihatimber' competition be resurrected as well now?
Good that the colleges won't be in it. Hate the games v them, never seemed like proper matches.
I'd say that they'll stick to the groups, probably 2 groups of 4, and 1 with 3.
The Bihatimber is sadly a thing of the past now, was a glorious 7 years though!
By the way Shamrock did you see where Longford is the unhealthiest town in Ireland :o
I did.
Biggest number of hypercondriacs in the country more like.
The way we're losing lads at the minute we might be fielding our strongest team in the O'Byrne Cup.
Harry Rooney isn't returning
Conor Nash is off to AFL
Ronan Jones is gone to USA
Ruairí Ó Coileann gone to USA
Paddy O'Rourke retired.
We didn't have Harry last year but there are 4 first team players from 2016 and 2017 that won't have going forward while Nash was a great talent but a long shot for us to keep him from AFL or pro rugby.
Tables are out....Blow it Up may post them here.
I see we're already joint leaders in The Group Of Death. This could be our year.
Laois home and away, wtf is that all about?
Quote from: Rossfan on November 02, 2017, 06:51:14 PM
By the way Shamrock did you see where Longford is the unhealthiest town in Ireland :o
I assume it's because of all the roundabouts.
Quote from: Rossfan on November 02, 2017, 06:51:14 PM
By the way Shamrock did you see where Longford is the unhealthiest town in Ireland :o
Listening too much about The marquee in Drumlish can cause health problems
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on November 16, 2017, 09:28:36 AM
Laois home and away, wtf is that all about?
Do away goals count double?
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on November 16, 2017, 09:28:36 AM
Laois home and away, wtf is that all about?
First step in the amalgamation. ....
The groups for the 2018 Bord na Móna Leinster GAA Series have been announced
Bord na Móna O'Byrne Cup SF
Group 1: Dublin, Offaly, Wexford
Group 2: Kildare, Louth, Longford
Group 3: Meath, Carlow, Wicklow
Group 4: Westmeath, Laois
Format: Round robin with first placed team advancing to semi-finals. Westmeath and Laois play each other home and away with aggregate score deciding who tops Group 4.
Dates: Dec 30, Jan 3, Jan 7. Semi-finals Jan 13/14. Final Jan 20/21
Opening Fixtures: Dec 30: Offaly v Wexford, Louth v Longford, Wicklow v Carlow, Westmeath v Laois
With us away to the websites in the first leg I fancy us to keep it tight and demolish them in the cauldron of Portarlington in the return game.
Offaly 3-16 Wexford 0-09
Louth 1-10 Longford 2-13
Wicklow 0-06 Carlow 3-08
Westmeath 1-13 Laois 1-12
Looked bad for Longford with 10 to go. Had nearly always been ahead but Louth had the breeze and the tails were up when sides got to 1-10 each. However a 29th min goal from Longford's Andrew Farrell (only Longford's second score in the half) gave us new impetus and seemed to suck life out of Louth. 3 more unanswered points gave Longford a slightly flattering 6 point win
How did the subs work? Were they rolling?
Not aware of 'rolling subs' being trialed.
Did I miss something?
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 01, 2018, 10:54:30 AM
Not aware of 'rolling subs' being trialed.
Did I miss something?
https://youtu.be/2KPplYp7K7M
Rollin rollin rollin
All the subs are swollen
Keep them feckers rollin
Shannon side
Rain and wind and leather
Ó Byrne cup weather
Wishing the sensation would return to me fingers
Shannonside
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 30, 2017, 08:30:56 PM
How did the subs work? Were they rolling?
is it not just that you can use all 26 players or is it a case you could put a lad in for 10 mins take him out ad back in again?
Quote from: seafoid on January 01, 2018, 11:16:07 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 01, 2018, 10:54:30 AM
Not aware of 'rolling subs' being trialed.
Did I miss something?
https://youtu.be/2KPplYp7K7M
Rollin rollin rollin
All the subs are swollen
Keep them feckers rollin
Shannon side
Rain and wind and leather
Ó Byrne cup weather
Wishing the sensation would return to me fingers
Shannonside
Very good. ;D
Kildare are playing u20 players in this, does that have any consequence on their availability for the u20 championship. Aaron O'Neill in goals has not even played senior for his club yet but looked a serious prospect when playing for the minors last year.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 02, 2018, 12:38:33 AM
Kildare are playing u20 players in this, does that have any consequence on their availability for the u20 championship. Aaron O'Neill in goals has not even played senior for his club yet but looked a serious prospect when playing for the minors last year.
U20s can play now for their seniors but after the NFL the decision has to made which panel U20 players is on as they can't play for both the U20s and senior teams this summer.
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 02, 2018, 01:27:19 AM
U20s can play now for their seniors but after the NFL the decision has to made which panel U20 players is on as they can't play for both the U20s and senior teams this summer.
Thanks, that is sensible enough.
Hmmmmm. Clever move by Kildare. They want to avoid peaking, as they usually do, in January.
Kildare are 9/4, free money. We are the Kings of January.
Kildare have decided not to climax too soon.
Kildare 0-09
Louth 2-11
So do Dublin now need a 16 point win over Wexford to stay in the o Byrne cup?
Hard fought win against Carlow in Dr Netwatch Park this evening.
0-09
0-07
Quality, not quantity.
Wickla next on Sunday.
Longford can 'afford' to lose by 3 points or less against Kildare in Longford on Sun and still go through to the semi finals.
Dubs have to beat Wexford by at least 16 points.
Let the good times roll.....power shifting in Leinster???? :D
Kildare's whole season as just been written off. Don't think any county has more bi-polar supporters than Kildare.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 04, 2018, 09:47:56 AM
Longford can 'afford' to lose by 3 points or less against Kildare in Longford on Sun and still go through to the semi finals.
Dubs have to beat Wexford by at least 16 points.
Let the good times roll.....power shifting in Leinster???? :D
Not too many All Ireland medals on the Dublin teams last night but plenty of handy lads trying to make the breakthrough. 16 points against the main Wexford team might be a bit much though
Kildare make 10 changes to the team that lost to Louth for today's encounter in Longford.
Lilywhites getting serious or are they trialling the Batch B?
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 07, 2018, 10:55:09 AM
Kildare make 10 changes to the team that lost to Louth for today's encounter in Longford.
Lilywhites getting serious or are they trialling the Batch B?
I make it 13 changes.
Unlucky for who?
If Laois win by a point today, the sides will finish level on aggregate so extra time will be needed. Two ten-minute spells will be played and if they're still level after that we'll witness a 'free-taking shootout'.
And according to the Leinster Council, this is how it will play out.
Each team will nominate five players.
Frees will be taken by each of the five players from a position of their choosing on the 45 metre line in football.
Frees in football may be taken from the hands or off the ground.
Frees will be taken for points only with no goalkeeper/defenders facing the free takers.
The game is awarded to whichever team scores more of their five frees
If still level then sudden death frees will be taken using the same five players in order
The sudden death element will continue until such time as there is definite outcome.
O'Byrne Cup
Wexford 1-09 Dublin 0-06, Enniscorthy 2pm - HT
Longford 0-08 Kildare 0-09, Pearse Park, 2pm - HT
Meath 2-10 Wicklow 0-05, Pairc Tailteann, 2pm - HT
Laois 0-06 Westmeath 1-09, Stradbally, 2pm - HT
O'Byrne Cup
Wexford 1-12 Dublin 0-14, Enniscorthy 2pm - FT
Longford 1-14 Kildare 0-13, Pearse Park, 2pm
Meath 4-19 Wicklow 0-13, Pairc Tailteann, 2pm - FT
Laois 1-13 Westmeath 3-16, Stradbally, 2pm - FT
Semi finals next Sunday
Meath vs Longford
Westmeath vs Wexford
Good win over Kildare.
See Ye Meath boys in Navan next Sun
Double header in Páirc Uí Chaoimh surely? !
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 07, 2018, 03:42:17 PM
Good win over Kildare.
See Ye Meath boys in Navan next Sun
Great win for the Larries over the gentry
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Up Longford.
Meath have self esteem issues that the Longford juggernaut may be able to take advantage of.
Quote from: thejuice on January 07, 2018, 03:41:00 PM
O'Byrne Cup
Wexford 1-12 Dublin 0-14, Enniscorthy 2pm - FT
Longford 1-14 Kildare 0-13, Pearse Park, 2pm
Meath 4-19 Wicklow 0-13, Pairc Tailteann, 2pm - FT
Laois 1-13 Westmeath 3-16, Stradbally, 2pm - FT
Semi finals next Sunday
Meath vs Longford
Westmeath vs Wexford
Westmeath v Offaly I thought?
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 07, 2018, 03:42:17 PM
Good win over Kildare.
See Ye Meath boys in Navan next Sun
I see Longford have stolen Mark Nally from Ros Gaels.
If it's good enough for Mayo..
Quote from: The PRO on January 07, 2018, 06:58:36 PM
Quote from: thejuice on January 07, 2018, 03:41:00 PM
O'Byrne Cup
Wexford 1-12 Dublin 0-14, Enniscorthy 2pm - FT
Longford 1-14 Kildare 0-13, Pearse Park, 2pm
Meath 4-19 Wicklow 0-13, Pairc Tailteann, 2pm - FT
Laois 1-13 Westmeath 3-16, Stradbally, 2pm - FT
Semi finals next Sunday
Meath vs Longford
Westmeath vs Wexford
Westmeath v Offaly I thought?
You thought correctly. We're not here to take part, if ya know what I mean. ;)
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 04, 2018, 11:01:09 AM
Kildare's whole season as just been written off. Don't think any county has more bi-polar supporters than Kildare.
We do.
Quote from: Syferus on January 07, 2018, 08:34:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 07, 2018, 07:08:07 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 07, 2018, 03:42:17 PM
Good win over Kildare.
See Ye Meath boys in Navan next Sun
I see Longford have stolen Mark Nally from Ros Gaels.
If it's good enough for Mayo..
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 04, 2018, 11:01:09 AM
Kildare's whole season as just been written off. Don't think any county has more bi-polar supporters than Kildare.
We do.
But have ye ever sat down in Croke Park!! ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Jinxy on January 07, 2018, 04:31:47 PM
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Up Longford.
Jinxy - when Longford face Meath this is what
I see in my head:
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Quote from: Syferus on January 07, 2018, 07:08:07 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 07, 2018, 03:42:17 PM
Good win over Kildare.
See Ye Meath boys in Navan next Sun
I see Longford have stolen Mark Nally from Ros Gaels.
If it's good enough for Mayo..
Syf. This went under my radar. Is this true? I've heard nothing either official or unofficial.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 08, 2018, 11:26:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 07, 2018, 07:08:07 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 07, 2018, 03:42:17 PM
Good win over Kildare.
See Ye Meath boys in Navan next Sun
I see Longford have stolen Mark Nally from Ros Gaels.
If it's good enough for Mayo..
Syf. This went under my radar. Is this true? I've heard nothing either official or unofficial.
His father was from Ballymahon apparently. He'a a former underage county FF/MF and was on the senior panel under Evans for a few years.
Poor lad was out of his depth then.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 08, 2018, 11:26:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 07, 2018, 07:08:07 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 07, 2018, 03:42:17 PM
Good win over Kildare.
See Ye Meath boys in Navan next Sun
I see Longford have stolen Mark Nally from Ros Gaels.
If it's good enough for Mayo..
Syf. This went under my radar. Is this true? I've heard nothing either official or unofficial.
Quote
Former Roscommon forward Mark Nally has joined up with the Longford football squad for 2018.
The Roscommon Gaels clubman could feature for the Midlanders in their O'Byrne Cup semi-final against Meath this weekend after having declared for his parents' home county.
Nally played U21 for the Rossies and made three championship appearances at senior level in 2014. The 24-year-old is set to continue playing with his native club.
Longford manager Denis Connerton told The Irish Times: "We've been looking at Mark's performances for quite a while now, and we knew about his connections and that he hasn't been involved with Roscommon.
"So we asked him in, and he obliged. He's a big lad, and he'll be with the team on Sunday."
It's cauld here in Navan.
HT
Meath 0-04
Longford 1-05
We're playing down the hill, with the wind, in the 2nd half.
Quote from: Jinxy on January 14, 2018, 02:51:15 PM
We're playing down the hill, with the wind, in the 2nd half.
15 Meath men behind the ball Jinxy.
Disgrace ::)
Romantic Meath's dead and gone...
Extra time.
1-12 each
Level after ET.
Free-kick shoot out.
History in the making...
This is great fun ;D
The nation holds it breath....
YES!!!
The more football those hoors play before they get to the Hyde the better.
Well done Meath but we gave Ye at least 1-04.
As I said it was good fun to be there for the frees but ours were v poor.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 14, 2018, 05:34:54 PM
Well done Meath but we gave Ye at least 1-04.
As I said it was good fun to be there for the frees but ours were v poor.
how were most of them taken? out of hands?
Mickey Burke was just wide with a fisted effort.
Quote from: tippabu on January 14, 2018, 06:01:57 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 14, 2018, 05:34:54 PM
Well done Meath but we gave Ye at least 1-04.
As I said it was good fun to be there for the frees but ours were v poor.
how were most of them taken? out of hands?
All out of hands bar one. Our goalie who shanked it.
Quote from: Jinxy on January 14, 2018, 04:14:40 PM
Level after ET.
Free-kick shoot out.
History in the making...
Bringing that in for the summer and whatever about today it will be awful way to lose a championship match.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 14, 2018, 06:29:39 PM
Quote from: tippabu on January 14, 2018, 06:01:57 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 14, 2018, 05:34:54 PM
Well done Meath but we gave Ye at least 1-04.
As I said it was good fun to be there for the frees but ours were v poor.
how were most of them taken? out of hands?
All out of hands bar one. Our goalie who shanked it.
I take it he takes the 45s for ye so? Going through it if it was ourselves 4 of the 5 would be taken from the ground, now striking from the ground this time of year isnt easy tbf
Why not a penalty shoot out?
Deserved win for Westmeath yesterday in Mullingar. Despite poor Offaly shooting and us loosing possession through needless errors when transitioning in the second half we still kept our noses in front from a decent half time lead. Would have been more except for an unfortunate break that let Offaly in behind. Encouraging to see a couple of new hands going up early for starting positions. Hopefully the experienced lads are ready to come back in for the start of the league. Great to see Frankie come on yesterday.
Footage of the historical first 45 metre shootout used to decide an intercounty game. Meath beat Longford 2-1.
https://youtu.be/8NV7YE9KiLk
Quote from: slippery dodger on January 15, 2018, 03:31:58 PM
Footage of the historical first 45 metre shootout used to decide an intercounty game. Meath beat Longford 2-1.
https://youtu.be/8NV7YE9KiLk
Have they no floodlights in Navan?
Quote from: laoislad on January 15, 2018, 03:37:50 PM
Quote from: slippery dodger on January 15, 2018, 03:31:58 PM
Footage of the historical first 45 metre shootout used to decide an intercounty game. Meath beat Longford 2-1.
https://youtu.be/8NV7YE9KiLk
Have they no floodlights in Navan?
Used to, not anymore I think.
Quote from: LooseCannon on January 15, 2018, 03:54:11 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 15, 2018, 03:37:50 PM
Quote from: slippery dodger on January 15, 2018, 03:31:58 PM
Footage of the historical first 45 metre shootout used to decide an intercounty game. Meath beat Longford 2-1.
https://youtu.be/8NV7YE9KiLk
Have they no floodlights in Navan?
Used to, not anymore I think.
Put them up without planning.
It wasn't as dark there that the video would lead you to believe.
Video will always give a poor impression.
There was enough light for the lads on the pitch to see the posts.......well, enough for 4 of our lads to miss them entirely :-\
Quote from: LooseCannon on January 15, 2018, 03:54:11 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 15, 2018, 03:37:50 PM
Quote from: slippery dodger on January 15, 2018, 03:31:58 PM
Footage of the historical first 45 metre shootout used to decide an intercounty game. Meath beat Longford 2-1.
https://youtu.be/8NV7YE9KiLk
Have they no floodlights in Navan?
Used to, not anymore I think.
They didn't go with the green grassy slopes.......
Quote from: laoislad on January 15, 2018, 03:37:50 PM
Quote from: slippery dodger on January 15, 2018, 03:31:58 PM
Footage of the historical first 45 metre shootout used to decide an intercounty game. Meath beat Longford 2-1.
https://youtu.be/8NV7YE9KiLk
Have they no floodlights in Navan?
I think Cavan took them.
Like the headline https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/gaelic-games/291572/meath-dancing-in-the-dark-after-they-deny-brave-longford-in-historic-free-taking-shootout.html
Foundations for the floodlights were found to be sub standard and had to be taken down after cracks appeared.
I have no idea how much it cost or how much it would cost to put them back up again but hopefully a better integrated solution will be included in the rebuilding of PT but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.
Anyway, we've won three games in a row and some people are getting giddy particularly on hoganstand but we'll have to see. Andy is trying out as many lads as he can and doesn't seem too fussed about the result so we'll probably see a very different 15 on Sunday. He has set his sights on promotion in the league so I think it will be fair to judge him on that.
Quote from: thejuice on January 15, 2018, 10:11:37 PM
Foundations for the floodlights were found to be sub standard and had to be taken down after cracks appeared.
I have no idea how much it cost or how much it would cost to put them back up again but hopefully a better integrated solution will be included in the rebuilding of PT but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.
Anyway, we've won three games in a row and some people are getting giddy particularly on hoganstand but we'll have to see. Andy is trying out as many lads as he can and doesn't seem too fussed about the result so we'll probably see a very different 15 on Sunday. He has set his sights on promotion in the league so I think it will be fair to judge him on that.
A loss one day one is going to make promotion a lot harder for either team as it has the potential to be a tie breaker when all is said and done. I'd be disappointed if we don't beat Meath at home.
"Foundations for the floodlights were found to be sub standard and had to be taken down after cracks appeared"
Kinda like our stands!
I heard that Pairc Tailteann is to be completely renovated with the pitch turned sideways, and a complete new stand to be built. A big job.
Aim big.
Hope there's a good crowd in Portlaoise on Sunday. Final is live on TG4.
Quote from: thejuice on January 15, 2018, 10:11:37 PM
Foundations for the floodlights were found to be sub standard and had to be taken down after cracks appeared.
I have no idea how much it cost or how much it would cost to put them back up again but hopefully a better integrated solution will be included in the rebuilding of PT but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.
Anyway, we've won three games in a row and some people are getting giddy particularly on hoganstand but we'll have to see. Andy is trying out as many lads as he can and doesn't seem too fussed about the result so we'll probably see a very different 15 on Sunday. He has set his sights on promotion in the league so I think it will be fair to judge him on that.
Weren't deep enough apparently.
QuoteWeren't deep enough apparently.
The ould pyrite it was
The final between Meath and Westmeath being on in Portlaois is a bit of a joke.
Quote from: slippery dodger on January 16, 2018, 07:00:37 PM
The final between Meath and Westmeath being on in Portlaois is a bit of a joke.
Where do you reckon it should have been played?
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 16, 2018, 07:22:39 PM
Quote from: slippery dodger on January 16, 2018, 07:00:37 PM
The final between Meath and Westmeath being on in Portlaois is a bit of a joke.
Where do you reckon it should have been played?
toss for home advantage? dublin and kildare played in newbridge last year
I won't be going as I live abroad but I do find the fuss being made over the venue a bit bemusing. I'm sure the venue was fixed well in advance and it's not that far away compared to some league venues we'll be playing in shortly. We're in a final, we should be glad if the fact not whinging because it's not being played on your doorstep.
Quote from: tippabu on January 16, 2018, 08:20:53 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 16, 2018, 07:22:39 PM
Quote from: slippery dodger on January 16, 2018, 07:00:37 PM
The final between Meath and Westmeath being on in Portlaois is a bit of a joke.
Where do you reckon it should have been played?
toss for home advantage? dublin and kildare played in newbridge last year
Páirc Tailteann is already in action that day so both teams have agreed that they want to play it in Cusack Park. Would be much preferable to both sets of supporters too. Having it on TV not a bad idea but the stands will be deserted in Portlaoise, would be a good atmosphere in Mullingar, if not quite in the realms of the madness of the O'Byrne Cup final in 2004. Cusack Park was dangerously packed that day, championship matches before or since haven't come close to the crowd that day.
Venue set months ago , agreement with TG4 to show game as part of a double header with the All Ireland Intermediate club semi final between An Gealteacht and Moy from Tyrone . The Cavanagh's v The O Se family . Real box office game with the history between the 2 counties . Redevelopment of Pairc Tailteann on the long finger as opinion split , without doubt the stand and lights need replacing . Haven't been on main terrace for years but it looks in good condition , development probably should be done with maybe a 20,000 capacity max with 6000/7000 seating . Would allow for a home and away agreement with the Dubs in championship
Sure Dublin's games are all at Neutral venues?
Will Portlaoise pitch be able for 2 games in January?
Quotemadness of the O'Byrne Cup final in 2004
It was pretty mad in 2000 as well!
I think there was 14,000 there that day.
Quote from: Syferus on January 15, 2018, 10:26:53 PM
Quote from: thejuice on January 15, 2018, 10:11:37 PM
Foundations for the floodlights were found to be sub standard and had to be taken down after cracks appeared.
I have no idea how much it cost or how much it would cost to put them back up again but hopefully a better integrated solution will be included in the rebuilding of PT but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.
Anyway, we've won three games in a row and some people are getting giddy particularly on hoganstand but we'll have to see. Andy is trying out as many lads as he can and doesn't seem too fussed about the result so we'll probably see a very different 15 on Sunday. He has set his sights on promotion in the league so I think it will be fair to judge him on that.
A loss one day one is going to make promotion a lot harder for either team as it has the potential to be a tie breaker when all is said and done. I'd be disappointed if we don't beat Meath at home.
a) This is the O'Byrne Cup thread.
b) Sickening arrogance.
No final
Complete shambles
The restless sleep, the getting out of bed at 6 to check the weather, the knot in the gut, the feeling that it's great to be alive.
It's O'Byrne Cup Final Day.
Wait! What?!?
Water polo anyone?
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Ya wouldn't see that in Tullamore!!!!
Quote from: LooseCannon on January 21, 2018, 12:48:18 PM
Ya wouldn't see that in Tullamore!!!!
The intermediate All Ireland semi final that was to played in Tullamore was also called off.
Just play it next weekend.
This is an O'Byrne Cup final we're talking about, the league can wait.
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 21, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
Quote from: LooseCannon on January 21, 2018, 12:48:18 PM
Ya wouldn't see that in Tullamore!!!!
The intermediate All Ireland semi final that was to played in Tullamore was also called off.
I know, was just saying it wasn't as bad.
It was sarcasm, I'm well aware of the Glaveys match being called off. Was going to go to it.
Any free weekend left for the O'Byrne Cup final?
Jinxy can get him/herself to Mullingar 3 pm Sunday 13th for this momentous clash of 2 of Leinster's top Intermediate Teams.
RTE should be showing this live, with deferred coverage of Mayo v Galway.
Longford spies mobilised.
Will WH be playing any hatchet men?
7 points up in the game of the day.
20 odd minutes to go.
O'Byrne Cup World Series Champions 2018!
Meath 4-13
Westmeath 1-13
Any straight reds for Meath?
Thanks for all the private messages, lads.
Great day.
Poor Paddy O'Rourke said we'd win nothing, well he must be sick now we've won this trophy and the Division 2 relegation championship so far. I think we're a good bet for the Leinster best runners up award now as well.
Why wasn't Heslin playing?
Heard Meath plan to go on the piss for the next 2 weeks so that by the time they rock up to Longford they will be easy pickings.
That said, well done on winning for the second time in three years.
Andy McEntee is taking the boys over to Scotland for a marathon drinking session followed by a marathon running session.
On the same day I'm told.
06:00-18:00 - drinking
18:00-03:00 running
No toilet breaks allowed during either session.
No fancy energy drinks allowed either, just 'Uncle Seán's Revitalising Tonic'.
Plenty of Milk Thistle for the gut.
Quote from: Laoiseabu on May 14, 2018, 12:21:20 AM
Why wasn't Heslin playing?
Injured. Westmeath at nothing this year, players walking off ignoring managers outstretched hand tells you all you need to know.
First Offaly, now Westmeath.
What's going on in the Midlands?
Quote from: Jinxy on May 16, 2018, 09:44:40 AM
First Offaly, now Westmeath.
What's going on in the Midlands?
Apathy.
Quote from: Jinxy on May 16, 2018, 09:44:40 AM
First Offaly, now Westmeath.
What's going on in the Midlands?
Their working towards amalgamation.
Louth are in free fall as well. Carlow rising, Laois getting a bit of a bounce out of Div 4 but not up to much.
Likewise I don't think we're within 10 points of Dublin and may not even be that close to Kildare either. The team that lined out against Westmeath was our strongest hand I would say.
Quote from: thejuice on May 16, 2018, 01:49:54 PM
Likewise I don't think we're within 10 points of Dublin and may not even be that close to Kildare either. The team that lined out against Westmeath was our strongest hand I would say.
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Quote from: Rossfan on May 16, 2018, 10:06:53 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 16, 2018, 09:44:40 AM
First Offaly, now Westmeath.
What's going on in the Midlands?
Their working towards amalgamation.
We'd have half of South Roscommon with the land grab so...,
Seriously f**k off, I'd sooner join with ye than them, or Leix, or Tipp, or Meath, or Kildare, or Galway.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on May 16, 2018, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: thejuice on May 16, 2018, 01:49:54 PM
Likewise I don't think we're within 10 points of Dublin and may not even be that close to Kildare either. The team that lined out against Westmeath was our strongest hand I would say.
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I know, we'd easily get within 6 points of Kildare!
Kildare beat us by 10 in the league and 9 in Leinster last year. Have we got any better. No. Have Kildare gotten any worse. Maybe. So on that basis I'm not sure we'd get within ten points of them however I'm pretty certain we are not within 10 points of Dublin if we played them.
. Comprende?
Worry about the Super Larries first.
Obviously but the basis of the discussion was about teams improving or otherwise and the general state of football in Leinster and nothing about who will beat what team and when.
Anyway if I'm so confident in my team that I'm not even sure if we're within ten points of arguably the second best team in the province I'm hardly of the state of mind that I'm dismissing Longford or any other team in Leinster.
Time Leinster took a leaf out of Kerry's book with combined teams.
The new set up would be
Dublin
Longford*
North Leinster (Louth/Meath/Westmeath)
East Leinster (Kildare/Wicklow/Wexford)
West Leinster (Laois/Offaly/Carlow/Kilkenny).
*Larries always punch above their weight and are always enthusiastic unlike the apathy of the other 10.
Quote from: LooseCannon on May 16, 2018, 05:45:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 16, 2018, 10:06:53 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 16, 2018, 09:44:40 AM
First Offaly, now Westmeath.
What's going on in the Midlands?
Their working towards amalgamation.
We'd have half of South Roscommon with the land grab so...,
Seriously f**k off, I'd sooner join with ye than them, or Leix, or Tipp, or Meath, or Kildare, or Galway.
I suggest you consider joining with yourselves. https://www.offalyexpress.ie/news/sport/313534/offaly-selector-perplexed-by-football-fallout-amid-brian-gavin-criticism.html (https://www.offalyexpress.ie/news/sport/313534/offaly-selector-perplexed-by-football-fallout-amid-brian-gavin-criticism.html)
If Leinster was a family and the GAA were the parents we would be talking about favoured child syndrome and it's negative affects on the rest of the family.
If Leinster Football was a person, they would be seeking mental help. The people who tell Leinster counties that you are a disgrace, rubbish etc, stop blaming Dublin etc are the same people who faced with a friend or family member with metal health issues, tell them to "man up" and stop felling sorry for yourselves. No acknowledgment or solutions.
When you have the GAA doing everything in their power to ensure one county's success above all others it is only natural that players will feel apathy towards those competitions. The financial doping of Dublin has cause and effect. The only thing keeping GAA alive at inter-county level is the National League, the Ulster & Connacht Championships. Super8 will give a fillip for may 3 years after that the All-Ireland series will fall away. The damage done in Leinster is going to be very hard to repair if ever.
Sad but mostly true Dinny.
However with the Qualifiers freeing Teams from the Provincials stratjacket I have to ask why can't Meath or Kildare be as good as Roscommon, Cavan or Monaghan whose populations are no more than one third of the 2 Leinster Counties.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 10:51:47 AM
Sad but mostly true Dinny.
However with the Qualifiers freeing Teams from the Provincials stratjacket I have to ask why can't Meath or Kildare be as good as Roscommon, Cavan or Monaghan whose populations are no more than one third of the 2 Leinster Counties.
Kildare have a decent qualifier record, most wins I believe.
For us it's general apathy and lads choosing rugby, Aussie rules or a life in New York or just a life without county football.
That and serious neglect of underage which was only put right under Mick O'Dowds tenure and will bear fruit in the next three years hopefully. Takes a long time to turn this juggernaut around before it goes off a cliff.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 10:51:47 AM
Sad but mostly true Dinny.
However with the Qualifiers freeing Teams from the Provincials stratjacket I have to ask why can't Meath or Kildare be as good as Roscommon, Cavan or Monaghan whose populations are no more than one third of the 2 Leinster Counties.
It's not really mostly true. The "financial doping" is pure crybaby nonsense that Dinny loves to throw out.
The massive advantage the Dubs have is population. More kids and more volunteer coaches and administrators than everyone else by a big factor. Our County Board is the best run in Leinster by a mile. Our clubs have really upped their game in the last decade too. Geography is massive too, not having to travel any distance to get to Croke Park, not having to travel any distance to get to training. Finding a reliable freetaker has been absolutely huge too! And we've got a top top manager.
Agree totally that Kildare and Meath in particular are punching well below their weight. I don't think Kildare are as far away as the NFL suggested. Rarely more than a kick of the ball away from the Dubs at underage. And I'm sure they feel themselves that they're not far away from Galway level. Although having an easier provincial title to fight for in the first instance, is certainly an advantage Galway has over Kildare, from an "in the head" point of view anyway.
Quote from: Hound on May 18, 2018, 10:20:45 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 10:51:47 AM
Sad but mostly true Dinny.
However with the Qualifiers freeing Teams from the Provincials stratjacket I have to ask why can't Meath or Kildare be as good as Roscommon, Cavan or Monaghan whose populations are no more than one third of the 2 Leinster Counties.
It's not really mostly true. The "financial doping" is pure crybaby nonsense that Dinny loves to throw out.
The massive advantage the Dubs have is population. More kids and more volunteer coaches and administrators than everyone else by a big factor. Our County Board is the best run in Leinster by a mile. Our clubs have really upped their game in the last decade too. Geography is massive too, not having to travel any distance to get to Croke Park, not having to travel any distance to get to training. Finding a reliable freetaker has been absolutely huge too! And we've got a top top manager.
Agree totally that Kildare and Meath in particular are punching well below their weight. I don't think Kildare are as far away as the NFL suggested. Rarely more than a kick of the ball away from the Dubs at underage. And I'm sure they feel themselves that they're not far away from Galway level. Although having an easier provincial title to fight for in the first instance, is certainly an advantage Galway has over Kildare, from an "in the head" point of view anyway.
More head in the sand from Dublin supporters. Are they all that dumb that they just deny it over and over? Dublin are financially doped organically through their own commercial operations and inorganically via the GAA and the Government, that is a factual reality that no Dublin supporter can refute.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 18, 2018, 10:37:39 AM
Quote from: Hound on May 18, 2018, 10:20:45 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 10:51:47 AM
Sad but mostly true Dinny.
However with the Qualifiers freeing Teams from the Provincials stratjacket I have to ask why can't Meath or Kildare be as good as Roscommon, Cavan or Monaghan whose populations are no more than one third of the 2 Leinster Counties.
It's not really mostly true. The "financial doping" is pure crybaby nonsense that Dinny loves to throw out.
The massive advantage the Dubs have is population. More kids and more volunteer coaches and administrators than everyone else by a big factor. Our County Board is the best run in Leinster by a mile. Our clubs have really upped their game in the last decade too. Geography is massive too, not having to travel any distance to get to Croke Park, not having to travel any distance to get to training. Finding a reliable freetaker has been absolutely huge too! And we've got a top top manager.
Agree totally that Kildare and Meath in particular are punching well below their weight. I don't think Kildare are as far away as the NFL suggested. Rarely more than a kick of the ball away from the Dubs at underage. And I'm sure they feel themselves that they're not far away from Galway level. Although having an easier provincial title to fight for in the first instance, is certainly an advantage Galway has over Kildare, from an "in the head" point of view anyway.
More head in the sand from Dublin supporters. Are they all that dumb that they just deny it over and over? Dublin are financially doped organically through their own commercial operations and inorganically via the GAA and the Government, that is a factual reality that no Dublin supporter can refute.
I refute it, but maybe it's because I don't understand.
For me, we look after our intercounty players really well, but no better than, for example, Mayo or Kerry look after their players.
Is Subaru giving the lads cars financial doping? Do any Kildare lads get cars? Is that the difference?
As mentioned numerous times most of the funds that go into coaching is at grassroots and focused on getting more people playing. The Dublin players will have received next to no coaching from paid coaches in their youth.
Maybe here's a way you can explain it to me. Take the potential Dublin v Kildare game this year. Game will be played in Croke Park, that's a benefit to Dublin. Dublin lads will all have short trips to training all year because they are all working or studying in Dublin. That's another advantage to Dublin (although Kildare lads probably better off than most teams in terms of distance to training). Dublin have a bigger population, thus a bigger pick, that's another advantage. But the "financial doping" advantage is the one I can't see. Dublin lads have been trained all their lives by volunteers, and they're not getting paid for playing.
Kildare spent €756,083 on inter-county spend.
12 Inter-county league and championship football games. 8 inter-county league and championship hurling games.
37804.15 per game.
Dublin spent €1,604,353 on inter-county spend.
14 Inter-county league and championship football games. 8 inter-county league and championship hurling games.
72925.13 per game.
Kildare and Dublin are a good comparison because they don't have the same travel expenses as the other counties. So if there is no tangible benefit to spending twice as much as your neighbour on team preparation, then why spend it? No other county spends as much on their teams, no other county has the same backroom and support structures.
Giving Dublin GAA millions to invest in grass roots coaching only benefits Dublin GAA, it increases participation, it increases the quality of coaching, it helps define clear pathways from underage through to senior, it's a long-term benefit for Dublin GAA paid for by everybody else. We are financially doping Dublin, period.
Btw as for the Saburus I couldn't give a sh*t about them, fair play to the players for getting a reward for their commitment but no other squad is so well rewarded but that has nothing to do with financial doping.
No self-respecting Kildare man would lower himself to drive a subaru anyway.
Quote from: Jinxy on May 22, 2018, 09:49:58 AM
No self-respecting Kildare man would lower himself to drive a subaru anyway.
Woeful at pulling a horse-box apparently.