FAI...New Manager Hunt continues

[ONeill]

I know. Benny said 1985 was the last time England won and you said it was you that said that, but you didn't, you said 1980.

It was me who said it was 1980. You said it was 1985. I'm right that I said it was 1980.

Benny said 1985, and you said that's what I said, but you didn't say that, you said 1980.

I didn't. I said that I said it was 1980.

No you didn't.


"-1980 the last time they bate us. 1957 before that. This is historic.

-1985 was the last time England won.

-That's what I said. "

You're saying to Benny that what u said was 1985 was the last time England won, but u didnt say that, you said 1980.

But I said it was 1980. It was him who said it was 1985. Get your facts right.

[BennyCake]

I could accept an argument that Kenny was trying to get us to play football more if we were scoring goals and shipping them at the back but we're not. If we were playing football we'd be scoring goals. We are clearly not.

Yes, Ireland dont have natural goalscorers, great wingers, great crossers or passers. So where are the goals going to come from? Normally it's set pieces (mainly Duffy). So find a big glipe and throw it up to him. Who gives a shite what it looks like, as long as it gets results. Or goals for that matter!

[Baile Brigín 2]

Are we still convincing ourselves that Kenny is the most promising Irish manager of the last 20 years?

no goals in 5 games, very few chances created. But some would tell you it's going in right direction.

Because it is. At least we went out fighting and conceded 3 set pieces. I shudder to think how McCarthy would have set us up for that. The football is infinitely better to watch, which we asked for, and a clear system is emerging. He has also had extremely bad luck on the Covid front.

McCarthy took 8 games for his first win. Charlton took 6.

[GiveItToTheShooters]

I know. Benny said 1985 was the last time England won and you said it was you that said that, but you didn't, you said 1980.

It was me who said it was 1980. You said it was 1985. I'm right that I said it was 1980.

Benny said 1985, and you said that's what I said, but you didn't say that, you said 1980.

I didn't. I said that I said it was 1980.

No you didn't.


"-1980 the last time they bate us. 1957 before that. This is historic.

-1985 was the last time England won.

-That's what I said. "

You're saying to Benny that what u said was 1985 was the last time England won, but u didnt say that, you said 1980.

But I said it was 1980. It was him who said it was 1985. Get your facts right.

I know you said that. Yet you told him you already said that to his statement of England last having won in 1985, which you didnt say. Ive spelt it out for you enough.

[Baile Brigín 2]

I could accept an argument that Kenny was trying to get us to play football more if we were scoring goals and shipping them at the back but we're not. If we were playing football we'd be scoring goals. We are clearly not.

Yes, Ireland dont have natural goalscorers, great wingers, great crossers or passers. So where are the goals going to come from? Normally it's set pieces (mainly Duffy). So find a big glipe and throw it up to him. Who gives a shite what it looks like, as long as it gets results. Or goals for that matter!

Because its not 1970. Center halves are bigger now. The last 3 managers couldn't find that lump and thats how they played.

Its time to link up soccer. Nobody plays long ball in Ireland anymore but suddenly they need to learn it for the national side? Kenny is a reformer. These players played fluid passing soccer until they moved to England. They didn't forget it.

[ONeill]

I know. Benny said 1985 was the last time England won and you said it was you that said that, but you didn't, you said 1980.

It was me who said it was 1980. You said it was 1985. I'm right that I said it was 1980.

Benny said 1985, and you said that's what I said, but you didn't say that, you said 1980.

I didn't. I said that I said it was 1980.

No you didn't.


"-1980 the last time they bate us. 1957 before that. This is historic.

-1985 was the last time England won.

-That's what I said. "

You're saying to Benny that what u said was 1985 was the last time England won, but u didnt say that, you said 1980.

But I said it was 1980. It was him who said it was 1985. Get your facts right.

I know you said that. Yet you told him you already said that to his statement of England last having won in 1985, which you didnt say. Ive spelt it out for you enough.

I didn't. I said that's what I said. I didn't disagree with what he said. I confirmed what I said.

[macdanger2]

I know. Benny said 1985 was the last time England won and you said it was you that said that, but you didn't, you said 1980.

It was me who said it was 1980. You said it was 1985. I'm right that I said it was 1980.

Benny said 1985, and you said that's what I said, but you didn't say that, you said 1980.

I didn't. I said that I said it was 1980.

No you didn't.


"-1980 the last time they bate us. 1957 before that. This is historic.

-1985 was the last time England won.

-That's what I said. "

You're saying to Benny that what u said was 1985 was the last time England won, but u didnt say that, you said 1980.

But I said it was 1980. It was him who said it was 1985. Get your facts right.

I know you said that. Yet you told him you already said that to his statement of England last having won in 1985, which you didnt say. Ive spelt it out for you enough.

You need to go back and re-read what O'Neill said, it's pretty clear that he said 1980 unless you're completely blind

[GiveItToTheShooters]

I know. Benny said 1985 was the last time England won and you said it was you that said that, but you didn't, you said 1980.

It was me who said it was 1980. You said it was 1985. I'm right that I said it was 1980.

Benny said 1985, and you said that's what I said, but you didn't say that, you said 1980.

I didn't. I said that I said it was 1980.

No you didn't.


"-1980 the last time they bate us. 1957 before that. This is historic.

-1985 was the last time England won.

-That's what I said. "

You're saying to Benny that what u said was 1985 was the last time England won, but u didnt say that, you said 1980.

But I said it was 1980. It was him who said it was 1985. Get your facts right.

I know you said that. Yet you told him you already said that to his statement of England last having won in 1985, which you didnt say. Ive spelt it out for you enough.

I didn't. I said that's what I said. I didn't disagree with what he said. I confirmed what I said.

You didnt say it though, you said 1980, not 1985.

[BennyCake]

I know. Benny said 1985 was the last time England won and you said it was you that said that, but you didn't, you said 1980.

It was me who said it was 1980. You said it was 1985. I'm right that I said it was 1980.

Benny said 1985, and you said that's what I said, but you didn't say that, you said 1980.

I didn't. I said that I said it was 1980.

No you didn't.


"-1980 the last time they bate us. 1957 before that. This is historic.

-1985 was the last time England won.

-That's what I said. "

You're saying to Benny that what u said was 1985 was the last time England won, but u didnt say that, you said 1980.

But I said it was 1980. It was him who said it was 1985. Get your facts right.

I know you said that. Yet you told him you already said that to his statement of England last having won in 1985, which you didnt say. Ive spelt it out for you enough.

I didn't. I said that's what I said. I didn't disagree with what he said. I confirmed what I said.

So we're both right?? 

[GiveItToTheShooters]

I know. Benny said 1985 was the last time England won and you said it was you that said that, but you didn't, you said 1980.

It was me who said it was 1980. You said it was 1985. I'm right that I said it was 1980.

Benny said 1985, and you said that's what I said, but you didn't say that, you said 1980.

I didn't. I said that I said it was 1980.

No you didn't.


"-1980 the last time they bate us. 1957 before that. This is historic.

-1985 was the last time England won.

-That's what I said. "

You're saying to Benny that what u said was 1985 was the last time England won, but u didnt say that, you said 1980.

But I said it was 1980. It was him who said it was 1985. Get your facts right.

I know you said that. Yet you told him you already said that to his statement of England last having won in 1985, which you didnt say. Ive spelt it out for you enough.

You need to go back and re-read what O'Neill said, it's pretty clear that he said 1980 unless you're completely blind

I think you need to go back and read what i said unless youre completely blind. I know he said 1980, not 1985, which is what he told benny.

[ONeill]

I know. Benny said 1985 was the last time England won and you said it was you that said that, but you didn't, you said 1980.

It was me who said it was 1980. You said it was 1985. I'm right that I said it was 1980.

Benny said 1985, and you said that's what I said, but you didn't say that, you said 1980.

I didn't. I said that I said it was 1980.

No you didn't.


"-1980 the last time they bate us. 1957 before that. This is historic.

-1985 was the last time England won.

-That's what I said. "

You're saying to Benny that what u said was 1985 was the last time England won, but u didnt say that, you said 1980.

But I said it was 1980. It was him who said it was 1985. Get your facts right.

I know you said that. Yet you told him you already said that to his statement of England last having won in 1985, which you didnt say. Ive spelt it out for you enough.

I didn't. I said that's what I said. I didn't disagree with what he said. I confirmed what I said.

You didnt say it though, you said 1980, not 1985.

Phew!! Thank fcuk you agree.

[GiveItToTheShooters]

I know. Benny said 1985 was the last time England won and you said it was you that said that, but you didn't, you said 1980.

It was me who said it was 1980. You said it was 1985. I'm right that I said it was 1980.

Benny said 1985, and you said that's what I said, but you didn't say that, you said 1980.

I didn't. I said that I said it was 1980.

No you didn't.


"-1980 the last time they bate us. 1957 before that. This is historic.

-1985 was the last time England won.

-That's what I said. "

You're saying to Benny that what u said was 1985 was the last time England won, but u didnt say that, you said 1980.

But I said it was 1980. It was him who said it was 1985. Get your facts right.

I know you said that. Yet you told him you already said that to his statement of England last having won in 1985, which you didnt say. Ive spelt it out for you enough.

I didn't. I said that's what I said. I didn't disagree with what he said. I confirmed what I said.

You didnt say it though, you said 1980, not 1985.

Phew!! Thank fcuk you agree.

No, you said 1980 initially, then when benny said 1985 you said thats what i said, but u didnt.

[Baile Brigín 2]

I could accept an argument that Kenny was trying to get us to play football more if we were scoring goals and shipping them at the back but we're not. If we were playing football we'd be scoring goals. We are clearly not.

Not much any manager can do about Duffy playing a line onside and being outmuscled on the header, Christie giving the ball away on the wrong wing then strolling back to his man and then giving away a sloppy penalty.

[Never beat the deeler]

I know. Benny said 1985 was the last time England won and you said it was you that said that, but you didn't, you said 1980.

It was me who said it was 1980. You said it was 1985. I'm right that I said it was 1980.

Benny said 1985, and you said that's what I said, but you didn't say that, you said 1980.

I didn't. I said that I said it was 1980.

No you didn't.


"-1980 the last time they bate us. 1957 before that. This is historic.

-1985 was the last time England won.

-That's what I said. "

You're saying to Benny that what u said was 1985 was the last time England won, but u didnt say that, you said 1980.

But I said it was 1980. It was him who said it was 1985. Get your facts right.

I know you said that. Yet you told him you already said that to his statement of England last having won in 1985, which you didnt say. Ive spelt it out for you enough.

I didn't. I said that's what I said. I didn't disagree with what he said. I confirmed what I said.

You didnt say it though, you said 1980, not 1985.

Phew!! Thank fcuk you agree.

No, you said 1980 initially, then when benny said 1985 you said thats what i said, but u didnt.

I'm not even sure who is winding who up anymore!!!

[Ed Ricketts]

Not nice to get turned over there tonight, but anyone using that result to bash Kenny is a bit of an eejit. It was a game we were never going to win - nothing more than a money spinner for the flat broke FAI.

Wasn't really England's first choice outfit, but neither was it ours. However, there aren't many countries with greater strength in depth than England right now.

We were missing Robinson and Connolly, so Horgan started - a fella who has spent most of his career in the League of Ireland. England were missing Rashford and Sterling, so Sancho started - a £100 million player. That's the difference in quality.

Kenny has been unlucky so far. Preparations for all games to date have been frustrated by COVID issues. That would be difficult to deal with at the best of times, never mind when trying to completely re-programme a nation out of 30+ years of dreadful, low risk, out-dated football. Hasn't helped that a couple of key men like Duffy are currently in the worst form of their careers.

Kenny's work will take time if it is to bear fruit. The end of the next qualifying campaign is the time to judge. Complaining that he hasn't worked miracles before that is daft. Neither Klopp, Guardiola, nor anyone else would turn boys like O'Dowda, Hourihane or Christie into decent international footballers in the space of a few months.