FAI...New Manager Hunt continues

[Itchy]

Ireland don't have the players. Ferguson still only 18.  Still a teenager and serious pressure on him to carry this team.

No quality in defence or mid-field.

We were spoilt years ago with all the lads playing in the Premiership.

Yes we all know that, but are we getting the best out if what we've got? I don't see how anyone could seriously think that.

[seafoid]

There is no point in continuing with Kenny. It doesn't work at all

Yep. I've been a big supporter of his and trying to play the right way but it just isn't happening. For years we mightn't have been brilliant but opponents got nothing easy and knew they'd been in a game. As someone said above they barely need to break sweat now, even shite teams like Greece. In Ferguson we have a lad who is gonna be a top top player and probably go for £100m~, we also have 2 very good young goalkeepers. Get someone in who can build a team around Ferguson and play to our strengths.

Greece are not shite. Neither are Scotland. They both have good managers and well drilled players.
We don't even have a decent midfield. We are probably at least 2 years behind Greece.

[seafoid]

Kenny will be there until the end of the year. They can't afford to pay him off.
Season tickets gone up by 100e for 2024

He did what he could. He introduced a lot of new players.
Unfortunately the results didn't improve. We are going to be 4th seeds in the World Cup qualifying.
The BIG are like the rugby team of the 1990s. A diol trua. No accuracy. No momentum. There are several causes. It is going to take longer than people expected to fix.
Kenny is on €540,000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XehuNQXdGCU

[marty34]

Ireland don't have the players. Ferguson still only 18.  Still a teenager and serious pressure on him to carry this team.

No quality in defence or mid-field.

We were spoilt years ago with all the lads playing in the Premiership.

Yes we all know that, but are we getting the best out if what we've got? I don't see how anyone could seriously think that.

Fair point. But we are where we are. Players aren't up to it.

A few different managers have tried but not much job.

Re: New manager - who would want it in fairness?

[Sportacus]

Kenny will be there until the end of the year. They can't afford to pay him off.
Season tickets gone up by 100e for 2024

If they don't shift him there'll be a hell of a lot of people not renewing their season tickets. 10,000 empty seats last night.

[Armagh18]

There is no point in continuing with Kenny. It doesn't work at all

Yep. I've been a big supporter of his and trying to play the right way but it just isn't happening. For years we mightn't have been brilliant but opponents got nothing easy and knew they'd been in a game. As someone said above they barely need to break sweat now, even shite teams like Greece. In Ferguson we have a lad who is gonna be a top top player and probably go for £100m~, we also have 2 very good young goalkeepers. Get someone in who can build a team around Ferguson and play to our strengths.

Greece are not shite. Neither are Scotland. They both have good managers and well drilled players.
We don't even have a decent midfield. We are probably at least 2 years behind Greece.

Hardly world beaters are they? How many players do they have playing at the top level? Genuine question

[seafoid]

There is no point in continuing with Kenny. It doesn't work at all

Yep. I've been a big supporter of his and trying to play the right way but it just isn't happening. For years we mightn't have been brilliant but opponents got nothing easy and knew they'd been in a game. As someone said above they barely need to break sweat now, even shite teams like Greece. In Ferguson we have a lad who is gonna be a top top player and probably go for £100m~, we also have 2 very good young goalkeepers. Get someone in who can build a team around Ferguson and play to our strengths.

Greece are not shite. Neither are Scotland. They both have good managers and well drilled players.
We don't even have a decent midfield. We are probably at least 2 years behind Greece.

Hardly world beaters are they? How many players do they have playing at the top level? Genuine question

International soccer is like club GAA. It is not about superstars. It's how good the weakest players are.
Our weakest players are really poor.

Poyet the Greek manager
"And then there were other games where depending on the result you become the Republic of Ireland, with all due respect. You depend on a corner, you depend on a long ball, you depend on fighting for second and third balls."

Ireland are really bad . Positioning errors , trying to play the ball out from the back, quality of midfield passing, continuously leaking goals from shots from outside the box.

Greece and Scotland are much better in all of these areas. Scotland top their group. Greece beat us home and away.
Ireland are like a bad GAA club team.

[Blowitupref]

There is no point in continuing with Kenny. It doesn't work at all

Yep. I've been a big supporter of his and trying to play the right way but it just isn't happening. For years we mightn't have been brilliant but opponents got nothing easy and knew they'd been in a game. As someone said above they barely need to break sweat now, even shite teams like Greece. In Ferguson we have a lad who is gonna be a top top player and probably go for £100m~, we also have 2 very good young goalkeepers. Get someone in who can build a team around Ferguson and play to our strengths.

Greece are not shite. Neither are Scotland. They both have good managers and well drilled players.
We don't even have a decent midfield. We are probably at least 2 years behind Greece.

Hardly world beaters are they? How many players do they have playing at the top level? Genuine question

Starting team last night.

1. Odysseas Vlachodimos - Notts Forest sub keeper
2. Lazaros Rota - AEK Athens
3. Konstantinos Mavropanos - West Ham sub
4. Panagiotis Retsos -  Olympiacos
5. Konstantinos Tsimikas - Liverpool sub
6. Anastasios Bakasetas - Trabzonspor
7. Dimitrios Kourbelis - Trabzonspor
8. Petros Mantalos -  AEK Athens
9. Giorgos Masouras - Olympiacos
10.Giorgos Giakoumakis - Atlanta United
11. Dimitrios Pelkas - İstanbul Başakşehir

Subs brought on

Konstantinos Koulierakis -  PAOK
Andreas Bouchalakis - Hertha Berlin
Fotis Ioannidis - Panathinaikos
Anastasios Chatzigiovanis - Ankaragucu
Emmanouil Siopis - Cardiff City

[seafoid]

There is no point in continuing with Kenny. It doesn't work at all

Yep. I've been a big supporter of his and trying to play the right way but it just isn't happening. For years we mightn't have been brilliant but opponents got nothing easy and knew they'd been in a game. As someone said above they barely need to break sweat now, even shite teams like Greece. In Ferguson we have a lad who is gonna be a top top player and probably go for £100m~, we also have 2 very good young goalkeepers. Get someone in who can build a team around Ferguson and play to our strengths.

Greece are not shite. Neither are Scotland. They both have good managers and well drilled players.
We don't even have a decent midfield. We are probably at least 2 years behind Greece.

Hardly world beaters are they? How many players do they have playing at the top level? Genuine question

Starting team last night.

1. Odysseas Vlachodimos - Notts Forest sub keeper
2. Lazaros Rota - AEK Athens
3. Konstantinos Mavropanos - West Ham sub
4. Panagiotis Retsos -  Olympiacos
5. Konstantinos Tsimikas - Liverpool sub
6. Anastasios Bakasetas - Trabzonspor
7. Dimitrios Kourbelis - Trabzonspor
8. Petros Mantalos -  AEK Athens
9. Giorgos Masouras - Olympiacos
10.Giorgos Giakoumakis - Atlanta United
11. Dimitrios Pelkas - İstanbul Başakşehir

Subs brought on

Konstantinos Koulierakis -  PAOK
Andreas Bouchalakis - Hertha Berlin
Fotis Ioannidis - Panathinaikos
Anastasios Chatzigiovanis - Ankaragucu
Emmanouil Siopis - Cardiff City

It does not matter who they play for. It is about how well they play together.

[Blowitupref]

There is no point in continuing with Kenny. It doesn't work at all

Yep. I've been a big supporter of his and trying to play the right way but it just isn't happening. For years we mightn't have been brilliant but opponents got nothing easy and knew they'd been in a game. As someone said above they barely need to break sweat now, even shite teams like Greece. In Ferguson we have a lad who is gonna be a top top player and probably go for £100m~, we also have 2 very good young goalkeepers. Get someone in who can build a team around Ferguson and play to our strengths.

Greece are not shite. Neither are Scotland. They both have good managers and well drilled players.
We don't even have a decent midfield. We are probably at least 2 years behind Greece.

Hardly world beaters are they? How many players do they have playing at the top level? Genuine question

Starting team last night.

1. Odysseas Vlachodimos - Notts Forest sub keeper
2. Lazaros Rota - AEK Athens
3. Konstantinos Mavropanos - West Ham sub
4. Panagiotis Retsos -  Olympiacos
5. Konstantinos Tsimikas - Liverpool sub
6. Anastasios Bakasetas - Trabzonspor
7. Dimitrios Kourbelis - Trabzonspor
8. Petros Mantalos -  AEK Athens
9. Giorgos Masouras - Olympiacos
10.Giorgos Giakoumakis - Atlanta United
11. Dimitrios Pelkas - İstanbul Başakşehir

Subs brought on

Konstantinos Koulierakis -  PAOK
Andreas Bouchalakis - Hertha Berlin
Fotis Ioannidis - Panathinaikos
Anastasios Chatzigiovanis - Ankaragucu
Emmanouil Siopis - Cardiff City

It does not matter who they play for. It is about how well they play together.

It does, gives a decent idea of the overall quality of the team. How well a team plays together is then down to management and Greece a better coached team and more tactically astute last night.

[Itchy]

There is no point in continuing with Kenny. It doesn't work at all

Yep. I've been a big supporter of his and trying to play the right way but it just isn't happening. For years we mightn't have been brilliant but opponents got nothing easy and knew they'd been in a game. As someone said above they barely need to break sweat now, even shite teams like Greece. In Ferguson we have a lad who is gonna be a top top player and probably go for £100m~, we also have 2 very good young goalkeepers. Get someone in who can build a team around Ferguson and play to our strengths.

Greece are not shite. Neither are Scotland. They both have good managers and well drilled players.
We don't even have a decent midfield. We are probably at least 2 years behind Greece.

Hardly world beaters are they? How many players do they have playing at the top level? Genuine question

Starting team last night.

1. Odysseas Vlachodimos - Notts Forest sub keeper
2. Lazaros Rota - AEK Athens
3. Konstantinos Mavropanos - West Ham sub
4. Panagiotis Retsos -  Olympiacos
5. Konstantinos Tsimikas - Liverpool sub
6. Anastasios Bakasetas - Trabzonspor
7. Dimitrios Kourbelis - Trabzonspor
8. Petros Mantalos -  AEK Athens
9. Giorgos Masouras - Olympiacos
10.Giorgos Giakoumakis - Atlanta United
11. Dimitrios Pelkas - İstanbul Başakşehir

Subs brought on

Konstantinos Koulierakis -  PAOK
Andreas Bouchalakis - Hertha Berlin
Fotis Ioannidis - Panathinaikos
Anastasios Chatzigiovanis - Ankaragucu
Emmanouil Siopis - Cardiff City

It does not matter who they play for. It is about how well they play together.

The point I'm sure he was making is that Greece players are pretty much playing at the same level as ours. Then we are both ranked in the early 50s in the world. Then why are Greece beating us with such ease in our own back yard?

[seafoid]

There is no point in continuing with Kenny. It doesn't work at all

Yep. I've been a big supporter of his and trying to play the right way but it just isn't happening. For years we mightn't have been brilliant but opponents got nothing easy and knew they'd been in a game. As someone said above they barely need to break sweat now, even shite teams like Greece. In Ferguson we have a lad who is gonna be a top top player and probably go for £100m~, we also have 2 very good young goalkeepers. Get someone in who can build a team around Ferguson and play to our strengths.

Greece are not shite. Neither are Scotland. They both have good managers and well drilled players.
We don't even have a decent midfield. We are probably at least 2 years behind Greece.

Hardly world beaters are they? How many players do they have playing at the top level? Genuine question

Starting team last night.

1. Odysseas Vlachodimos - Notts Forest sub keeper
2. Lazaros Rota - AEK Athens
3. Konstantinos Mavropanos - West Ham sub
4. Panagiotis Retsos -  Olympiacos
5. Konstantinos Tsimikas - Liverpool sub
6. Anastasios Bakasetas - Trabzonspor
7. Dimitrios Kourbelis - Trabzonspor
8. Petros Mantalos -  AEK Athens
9. Giorgos Masouras - Olympiacos
10.Giorgos Giakoumakis - Atlanta United
11. Dimitrios Pelkas - İstanbul Başakşehir

Subs brought on

Konstantinos Koulierakis -  PAOK
Andreas Bouchalakis - Hertha Berlin
Fotis Ioannidis - Panathinaikos
Anastasios Chatzigiovanis - Ankaragucu
Emmanouil Siopis - Cardiff City

It does not matter who they play for. It is about how well they play together.

The point I'm sure he was making is that Greece players are pretty much playing at the same level as ours. Then we are both ranked in the early 50s in the world. Then why are Greece beating us with such ease in our own back yard?

Better class of player, better manager, more confident, better record than 5 wins out of 27
Greece are making progress. We are not

[Armagh18]

To me international tactics should be kept as simple as possible. Manager doesnt get much time to change players and mould them into something they aren't. All about playing to your strengths. 

[AustinPowers]

To me international tactics should be kept as simple as possible. Manager doesnt get much time to change players and mould them into something they aren't. All about playing to your strengths. 

Isn't that basically what big Jack did? Heard him say  something to that  effect in  an interview. Keep  it simple. Don't over complicate  things. And you have to admit , he had  good success  doing exactly that.

[Itchy]

There is no point in continuing with Kenny. It doesn't work at all

Yep. I've been a big supporter of his and trying to play the right way but it just isn't happening. For years we mightn't have been brilliant but opponents got nothing easy and knew they'd been in a game. As someone said above they barely need to break sweat now, even shite teams like Greece. In Ferguson we have a lad who is gonna be a top top player and probably go for £100m~, we also have 2 very good young goalkeepers. Get someone in who can build a team around Ferguson and play to our strengths.

Greece are not shite. Neither are Scotland. They both have good managers and well drilled players.
We don't even have a decent midfield. We are probably at least 2 years behind Greece.

Hardly world beaters are they? How many players do they have playing at the top level? Genuine question

Starting team last night.

1. Odysseas Vlachodimos - Notts Forest sub keeper
2. Lazaros Rota - AEK Athens
3. Konstantinos Mavropanos - West Ham sub
4. Panagiotis Retsos -  Olympiacos
5. Konstantinos Tsimikas - Liverpool sub
6. Anastasios Bakasetas - Trabzonspor
7. Dimitrios Kourbelis - Trabzonspor
8. Petros Mantalos -  AEK Athens
9. Giorgos Masouras - Olympiacos
10.Giorgos Giakoumakis - Atlanta United
11. Dimitrios Pelkas - İstanbul Başakşehir

Subs brought on

Konstantinos Koulierakis -  PAOK
Andreas Bouchalakis - Hertha Berlin
Fotis Ioannidis - Panathinaikos
Anastasios Chatzigiovanis - Ankaragucu
Emmanouil Siopis - Cardiff City

It does not matter who they play for. It is about how well they play together.

The point I'm sure he was making is that Greece players are pretty much playing at the same level as ours. Then we are both ranked in the early 50s in the world. Then why are Greece beating us with such ease in our own back yard?

Better class of player, better manager, more confident, better record than 5 wins out of 27
Greece are making progress. We are not

You're not following. Technically better players yes but they obviously have other weaknesses or theyd all be playing at top clubs. As it stands they are all playing at similar levels of clubs. Manager for sure is much better. The record you quote is the outcome of the above. The question is why?