Arlene's bigotry shines through

[armaghniac]

As is your belief that Catholic businesses must have discriminated against Protestants because you assume so.
Wasn't asserting anything but am certainly unaware of any other instances.
If you know any feel free to post info.
Fethard was a local row instigated and inflamed by a Parish Priest.
The Mayo case got the Council dissolved by Central Government. Also the good lady had a happy ending on 2 counts - met a husband and hadn't to live or work in feckin Mayo.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/protestant-teacher-wins-discrimination-case-in-republic-of-ireland-28571280.html

http://www.thejournal.ie/school-protestant-1320710-Feb2014/

Would she have got a job in a Catholic school in NI?

[Jim_Murphy_74]

Do you agree that the newly created Catholic state was a very cold house for Protestants? 

There was no need for forced removal or ethnic cleansing to move most Protestants out of the new state if they weren't prepared to fully integrate into the Catholic population.

Undoubtedly it was and it contributed to decline in Protestant population.   However, the current Irish Republic bears no resemblance to the past Free State.   A future, hypothetical, All-Ireland State would be different again.  The reality is based on current trends the average DUPer would find their views of issues like gay marriage, trusting Muslims to go the shops, etc.. as more of an issue than being Protestant.  In fact I would go as far as to say that they would find the secular, as against Catholic aspects more discomforting.

Frankly from my point of view, the Republic of Ireland is more alike the wider UK than Northern Ireland and I can't help the feeling that Arlene fears being part of a minority as much as anything else.

/Jim.

[yellowcard]

It was extremely nice of the Combined Loyalist paramilitaries to issue a statement saying that they do not support criminality. Even nicer to hear Arlene welcome this lovely gesture by saying how nice they were in comparision to big bad Gerry Adams.

[michaelg]

Do you agree that the newly created Catholic state was a very cold house for Protestants? 

There was no need for forced removal or ethnic cleansing to move most Protestants out of the new state if they weren't prepared to fully integrate into the Catholic population.

Undoubtedly it was and it contributed to decline in Protestant population.   However, the current Irish Republic bears no resemblance to the past Free State.   A future, hypothetical, All-Ireland State would be different again.  The reality is based on current trends the average DUPer would find their views of issues like gay marriage, trusting Muslims to go the shops, etc.. as more of an issue than being Protestant.  In fact I would go as far as to say that they would find the secular, as against Catholic aspects more discomforting.

Frankly from my point of view, the Republic of Ireland is more alike the wider UK than Northern Ireland and I can't help the feeling that Arlene fears being part of a minority as much as anything else.

/Jim.

Excellent post.

[imtommygunn]

It was extremely nice of the Combined Loyalist paramilitaries to issue a statement saying that they do not support criminality. Even nicer to hear Arlene welcome this lovely gesture by saying how nice they were in comparision to big bad Gerry Adams.

I thought that. What do these pricks want? A medal?

(More community grants i would guess)

[Owen Brannigan]

As is your belief that Catholic businesses must have discriminated against Protestants because you assume so.
Wasn't asserting anything but am certainly unaware of any other instances.
If you know any feel free to post info.
Fethard was a local row instigated and inflamed by a Parish Priest.
The Mayo case got the Council dissolved by Central Government. Also the good lady had a happy ending on 2 counts - met a husband and hadn't to live or work in feckin Mayo.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/protestant-teacher-wins-discrimination-case-in-republic-of-ireland-28571280.html

http://www.thejournal.ie/school-protestant-1320710-Feb2014/

Would she have got a job in a Catholic school in NI?

Yes she would but only if the Board of Governors did not exercise its right to not employ a teacher who was not qualified to teach R.E. with a certificate validated by the Catholic Church.

[BennyCake]

Do you agree that the newly created Catholic state was a very cold house for Protestants? 

There was no need for forced removal or ethnic cleansing to move most Protestants out of the new state if they weren't prepared to fully integrate into the Catholic population.

Undoubtedly it was and it contributed to decline in Protestant population.   However, the current Irish Republic bears no resemblance to the past Free State.   A future, hypothetical, All-Ireland State would be different again.  The reality is based on current trends the average DUPer would find their views of issues like gay marriage, trusting Muslims to go the shops, etc.. as more of an issue than being Protestant.  In fact I would go as far as to say that they would find the secular, as against Catholic aspects more discomforting.

Frankly from my point of view, the Republic of Ireland is more alike the wider UK than Northern Ireland and I can't help the feeling that Arlene fears being part of a minority as much as anything else.

/Jim.

Why do you think that? Because the DUP are against gay marriage and abortion, and blocking an Irish Language Act?

[Jim_Murphy_74]

Do you agree that the newly created Catholic state was a very cold house for Protestants? 

There was no need for forced removal or ethnic cleansing to move most Protestants out of the new state if they weren't prepared to fully integrate into the Catholic population.

Undoubtedly it was and it contributed to decline in Protestant population.   However, the current Irish Republic bears no resemblance to the past Free State.   A future, hypothetical, All-Ireland State would be different again.  The reality is based on current trends the average DUPer would find their views of issues like gay marriage, trusting Muslims to go the shops, etc.. as more of an issue than being Protestant.  In fact I would go as far as to say that they would find the secular, as against Catholic aspects more discomforting.

Frankly from my point of view, the Republic of Ireland is more alike the wider UK than Northern Ireland and I can't help the feeling that Arlene fears being part of a minority as much as anything else.

/Jim.

Why do you think that? Because the DUP are against gay marriage and abortion, and blocking an Irish Language Act?

To an extent, yes. These you are more likely to lose out on a position for coming out with Paisley type comments  about gays repulsing you than what religion you practice. Also I have heard some unionist politicians extolling the diversity of the UK, yet use their majority to rule against (in my eyes) said diversity.

/Jim

[imtommygunn]

Jim wells seems to have gone into full meltdown.

[BennyCake]

Do you agree that the newly created Catholic state was a very cold house for Protestants? 

There was no need for forced removal or ethnic cleansing to move most Protestants out of the new state if they weren't prepared to fully integrate into the Catholic population.

Undoubtedly it was and it contributed to decline in Protestant population.   However, the current Irish Republic bears no resemblance to the past Free State.   A future, hypothetical, All-Ireland State would be different again.  The reality is based on current trends the average DUPer would find their views of issues like gay marriage, trusting Muslims to go the shops, etc.. as more of an issue than being Protestant.  In fact I would go as far as to say that they would find the secular, as against Catholic aspects more discomforting.

Frankly from my point of view, the Republic of Ireland is more alike the wider UK than Northern Ireland and I can't help the feeling that Arlene fears being part of a minority as much as anything else.

/Jim.

Why do you think that? Because the DUP are against gay marriage and abortion, and blocking an Irish Language Act?

To an extent, yes. These you are more likely to lose out on a position for coming out with Paisley type comments  about gays repulsing you than what religion you practice. Also I have heard some unionist politicians extolling the diversity of the UK, yet use their majority to rule against (in my eyes) said diversity.

/Jim

But a couple of dozen loons in the DUP don't speak for all unionists in the north (even though they vote for them), never mind everyone in the North. They certainly don't speak for me. Nor do SF, but that's another matter. You can't tar everyone in the North (unionists and nationalists) with the DUP brush.

By the way, gays may repulse countless others in the North and in Britain. You just don't hear them say it. Only the DUP have the bravery/stupidity to say it.

[michaelg]

Do you agree that the newly created Catholic state was a very cold house for Protestants? 

There was no need for forced removal or ethnic cleansing to move most Protestants out of the new state if they weren't prepared to fully integrate into the Catholic population.

Undoubtedly it was and it contributed to decline in Protestant population.   However, the current Irish Republic bears no resemblance to the past Free State.   A future, hypothetical, All-Ireland State would be different again.  The reality is based on current trends the average DUPer would find their views of issues like gay marriage, trusting Muslims to go the shops, etc.. as more of an issue than being Protestant.  In fact I would go as far as to say that they would find the secular, as against Catholic aspects more discomforting.

Frankly from my point of view, the Republic of Ireland is more alike the wider UK than Northern Ireland and I can't help the feeling that Arlene fears being part of a minority as much as anything else.

/Jim.

Why do you think that? Because the DUP are against gay marriage and abortion, and blocking an Irish Language Act?

To an extent, yes. These you are more likely to lose out on a position for coming out with Paisley type comments  about gays repulsing you than what religion you practice. Also I have heard some unionist politicians extolling the diversity of the UK, yet use their majority to rule against (in my eyes) said diversity.

/Jim

But a couple of dozen loons in the DUP don't speak for all unionists in the north (even though they vote for them), never mind everyone in the North. They certainly don't speak for me. Nor do SF, but that's another matter. You can't tar everyone in the North (unionists and nationalists) with the DUP brush.

By the way, gays may repulse countless others in the North and in Britain. You just don't hear them say it. Only the DUP have the bravery/stupidity to say it.

Excellent post.  DUP in aprticular do not speak for younger Protestants.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/aug/04/northern-irish-unionist-parties-alienating-young-protestants-study

Many also only vote for them due to polarised nature of politics in NI.  I would rather put pins in my eyes.

[Rossfan]

Michael do you and others of your thinking vote at all?
Who would ye most likely vote for if ye did vote? ?

[Jim_Murphy_74]

Do you agree that the newly created Catholic state was a very cold house for Protestants? 

There was no need for forced removal or ethnic cleansing to move most Protestants out of the new state if they weren't prepared to fully integrate into the Catholic population.

Undoubtedly it was and it contributed to decline in Protestant population.   However, the current Irish Republic bears no resemblance to the past Free State.   A future, hypothetical, All-Ireland State would be different again.  The reality is based on current trends the average DUPer would find their views of issues like gay marriage, trusting Muslims to go the shops, etc.. as more of an issue than being Protestant.  In fact I would go as far as to say that they would find the secular, as against Catholic aspects more discomforting.

Frankly from my point of view, the Republic of Ireland is more alike the wider UK than Northern Ireland and I can't help the feeling that Arlene fears being part of a minority as much as anything else.

/Jim.

Why do you think that? Because the DUP are against gay marriage and abortion, and blocking an Irish Language Act?

To an extent, yes. These you are more likely to lose out on a position for coming out with Paisley type comments  about gays repulsing you than what religion you practice. Also I have heard some unionist politicians extolling the diversity of the UK, yet use their majority to rule against (in my eyes) said diversity.

/Jim

But a couple of dozen loons in the DUP don't speak for all unionists in the north (even though they vote for them), never mind everyone in the North. They certainly don't speak for me. Nor do SF, but that's another matter. You can't tar everyone in the North (unionists and nationalists) with the DUP brush.

By the way, gays may repulse countless others in the North and in Britain. You just don't hear them say it. Only the DUP have the bravery/stupidity to say it.

I am not tarring all unionists or northerners with any brush. I am referring to the likes of Arlene who would feel compelled to emigrate in the event of a United Ireland. I  questioning the relationship reasons she (and they) would have for this.

/Jim.

[Jim_Murphy_74]

Do you agree that the newly created Catholic state was a very cold house for Protestants? 

There was no need for forced removal or ethnic cleansing to move most Protestants out of the new state if they weren't prepared to fully integrate into the Catholic population.

Undoubtedly it was and it contributed to decline in Protestant population.   However, the current Irish Republic bears no resemblance to the past Free State.   A future, hypothetical, All-Ireland State would be different again.  The reality is based on current trends the average DUPer would find their views of issues like gay marriage, trusting Muslims to go the shops, etc.. as more of an issue than being Protestant.  In fact I would go as far as to say that they would find the secular, as against Catholic aspects more discomforting.

Frankly from my point of view, the Republic of Ireland is more alike the wider UK than Northern Ireland and I can't help the feeling that Arlene fears being part of a minority as much as anything else.

/Jim.

Why do you think that? Because the DUP are against gay marriage and abortion, and blocking an Irish Language Act?

To an extent, yes. These you are more likely to lose out on a position for coming out with Paisley type comments  about gays repulsing you than what religion you practice. Also I have heard some unionist politicians extolling the diversity of the UK, yet use their majority to rule against (in my eyes) said diversity.

/Jim

But a couple of dozen loons in the DUP don't speak for all unionists in the north (even though they vote for them), never mind everyone in the North. They certainly don't speak for me. Nor do SF, but that's another matter. You can't tar everyone in the North (unionists and nationalists) with the DUP brush.

By the way, gays may repulse countless others in the North and in Britain. You just don't hear them say it. Only the DUP have the bravery/stupidity to say it.

Excellent post.  DUP in aprticular do not speak for younger Protestants.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/aug/04/northern-irish-unionist-parties-alienating-young-protestants-study

Many also only vote for them due to polarised nature of politics in NI.  I would rather put pins in my eyes.

Whatever their reasoning the majority of unionists give them a mandate to speak for them.

/Jiim.

[michaelg]

Michael do you and others of your thinking vote at all?
Who would ye most likely vote for if ye did vote? ?

I have voted 2 or 3 times since the GFA.  It's a difficult choice given the ballbags (Both sides by the way) who run for election.