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Title: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: rrhf on May 30, 2019, 09:35:02 PM
Just watched that fantastic hurling catch in the cricket World Cup.  Would remind you of the shared skills between the games..
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 31, 2019, 07:52:29 AM
With a name like Stokes he's bound to have some Irish blood on him....straight out of the halting site!
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: Owen Brannigan on May 31, 2019, 09:23:23 AM
It is being hailed by the English media as the catch of the century but catches like that by N.Zealand cricketer Ben Stokes are very common in hurling. I don't think Stokes would have the discipline to play the game.

https://youtu.be/qfDTfYoq2BU (https://youtu.be/qfDTfYoq2BU)
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: johnnycool on May 31, 2019, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: rrhf on May 30, 2019, 09:35:02 PM
Just watched that fantastic hurling catch in the cricket World Cup.  Would remind you of the shared skills between the games..


FFS, There was no fullback flailing at him at the same time.

Good, but not great.
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: nrico2006 on May 31, 2019, 01:04:10 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 31, 2019, 12:15:30 PM
Quote from: rrhf on May 30, 2019, 09:35:02 PM
Just watched that fantastic hurling catch in the cricket World Cup.  Would remind you of the shared skills between the games..


FFS, There was no fullback flailing at him at the same time.

Good, but not great.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: Kidder81 on May 31, 2019, 01:10:35 PM
You would think anyone with decent athletic ability would make it
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on May 31, 2019, 01:10:46 PM
Chris Gayle would be good. Currently blasting 6's for fun against Pakistan
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: magpie seanie on May 31, 2019, 02:10:25 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on May 31, 2019, 01:10:46 PM
Chris Gayle would be good. Currently blasting 6's for fun against Pakistan

Not if he had to run!
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 31, 2019, 02:30:38 PM
FFS

I'd like to see the hoor do this.

(https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000H_Ay0qK9zvg/s/900/900/hells-kitchen.jpg)
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on May 31, 2019, 05:35:04 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 31, 2019, 02:10:25 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on May 31, 2019, 01:10:46 PM
Chris Gayle would be good. Currently blasting 6's for fun against Pakistan

Not if he had to run!

For a cripple he is alright. Doesn't need to run just gets the ball and smashes his points over from anywhere lol. Sure he is too cool to run anyway
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: michaelg on May 31, 2019, 05:41:48 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on May 31, 2019, 05:35:04 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 31, 2019, 02:10:25 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on May 31, 2019, 01:10:46 PM
Chris Gayle would be good. Currently blasting 6's for fun against Pakistan

Not if he had to run!

For a cripple he is alright. Doesn't need to run just gets the ball and smashes his points over from anywhere lol. Sure he is too cool to run anyway
Does the hardness of a cricket ball not make it harder to  catch? Serious question.
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: gallsman on May 31, 2019, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: michaelg on May 31, 2019, 05:41:48 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on May 31, 2019, 05:35:04 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 31, 2019, 02:10:25 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on May 31, 2019, 01:10:46 PM
Chris Gayle would be good. Currently blasting 6's for fun against Pakistan

Not if he had to run!

For a cripple he is alright. Doesn't need to run just gets the ball and smashes his points over from anywhere lol. Sure he is too cool to run anyway
Does the hardness of a cricket ball not make it harder to  catch? Serious question.

The hardness, no. The gloss on it perhaps.
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2019, 06:26:18 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 31, 2019, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: michaelg on May 31, 2019, 05:41:48 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on May 31, 2019, 05:35:04 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 31, 2019, 02:10:25 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on May 31, 2019, 01:10:46 PM
Chris Gayle would be good. Currently blasting 6's for fun against Pakistan

Not if he had to run!

For a cripple he is alright. Doesn't need to run just gets the ball and smashes his points over from anywhere lol. Sure he is too cool to run anyway
Does the hardness of a cricket ball not make it harder to  catch? Serious question.

The hardness, no. The gloss on it perhaps.

Would it not be more dense? Yes the gloss would be a factor also
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: omaghjoe on May 31, 2019, 06:54:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 31, 2019, 06:26:18 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 31, 2019, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: michaelg on May 31, 2019, 05:41:48 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on May 31, 2019, 05:35:04 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 31, 2019, 02:10:25 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on May 31, 2019, 01:10:46 PM
Chris Gayle would be good. Currently blasting 6's for fun against Pakistan

Not if he had to run!

For a cripple he is alright. Doesn't need to run just gets the ball and smashes his points over from anywhere lol. Sure he is too cool to run anyway
Does the hardness of a cricket ball not make it harder to  catch? Serious question.

The hardness, no. The gloss on it perhaps.

Would it not be more dense? Yes the gloss would be a factor also

Not sure if it is that much more dense, Density in itself isnt really so much a factor, unless it was at a much higher speed where it could damage your hand
But it is heavier i believe so yes that would make it a little more difficult also think its slightly larger diameter which coupled with the roughness would be the biggest factors

I think the hardness that the poster is talking about is really greater rigidity (the amount of give) which I think would also make it a little more difficult but not that much.
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: michaelg on May 31, 2019, 11:57:46 PM
A cricket ball is heavier and harder so I would imagine comes harder and quicker through the air.  Admittedly, some dude waving a stick at your arm / face isn't going to make things easy!
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: omaghjoe on June 01, 2019, 12:13:13 AM
We need a proper definition of hardness here lads

Hardness relates to how much the surface will indent eg handball v golf ball, not much to do with it at all, and nothing much to do with speed thru the air

A cricket ball is heavier so it will have a greater force striking your hand but the fact it is heavier means and the awkward swing of a cricket bat would mean that its initial speed may be slower... then again the cricket bat is harder with less give than a hurl so this should mean more energy transferred into  ball speed

Also The force that it strikes ones hand could be a hindrance, tho could also assist in the catch as if it strikes your hand reflexing the fingers closed.
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: rrhf on June 01, 2019, 12:19:19 AM
Not taking away from stokes' catch one bit... I thought it sensational and world class. But beyond hurling which is ridiculous in terms of skill perfection baseball must have equal magnificence in the catching examples.
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2019, 12:46:24 AM
Quote from: rrhf on June 01, 2019, 12:19:19 AM
Not taking away from stokes' catch one bit... I thought it sensational and world class. But beyond hurling which is ridiculous in terms of skill perfection baseball must have equal magnificence in the catching examples.

They've those big leather mits though to catch it, cheating really
Title: Re: Could Ben Stokes play hurling?
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 01, 2019, 01:16:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2019, 12:46:24 AM
Quote from: rrhf on June 01, 2019, 12:19:19 AM
Not taking away from stokes' catch one bit... I thought it sensational and world class. But beyond hurling which is ridiculous in terms of skill perfection baseball must have equal magnificence in the catching examples.

They've those big leather mits though to catch it, cheating really

OK...try this one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzEP9O3tA7c