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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« Last post by general_lee on Today at 10:37:55 PM »
I was veering towards believing the girl until I learned that she'd taken her own top off. Okay she says she was ordered to do it(would a man usually ask a girl politely to take her top off during consensual sex?) but she can't remember who ordered her to do it(imo if she'd been told to do it in a threatening way she'd remember). She also claimed that she "froze" when asked why she didn't cry out for help, but when asked/told to take her top off she did. That doesn't add up to me. Imo it looks like regret, not rape,  at this stage. The police interviews should be revealing though.
Would you not agree its possible your veering that way because you have a predetermined view of what rape is and what it looks like?  The vast majority of rapes are completely different from what we would see in a film.
Don't think so Mucker. I can accept that a girl could freeze and not struggle and my earlier posts on the thread would show I was inclined to believe her, but taking off her own top  because she was "ordered to" and yet being unable to recall which man ordered her to do so is something that doesn't add up to me at all.
If for example she had said "Olding ordered me to take my top off and I felt he was going to hurt me if I didn't" I could accept that, but to not remember and expect the jury to still accept the claim that she had done it due to intimidation and hadn't done so willingly is a huge stretch.
Why, they could have been lying in the dark and they probably have the same Malowne rowd accent? Could be hard to work out which one said it?
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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« Last post by GetOverTheBar on Today at 10:29:10 PM »
Was the girl questioned on how her top came to be off? It seems inconsistent with  “everything about me was saying no physically”. Would her top not have to have been ripped off in that case?

She's said that she took it off herself
She said she was ordered to take it off.

MR2 and GetOverTheBar not doing themselves any favours I see.

Please forgive me, I do strive for attention....on an internet message board.

Christ almighty.
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General discussion / Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
« Last post by Snapchap on Today at 10:28:05 PM »
Why did a BBC reporter turn up uninvited and unannounced at a private law abiding citizen's home? No wonder the guy was upset and lost it

The BBC reporter may have tirned up uninvited amd unannounced but that is not illegal by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was is against journalistic regulations. So given that he broke no rules or laws, then the abusive reaction by the group was utterly over the top and by and rational standards, broke several laws. Now given those facts, is it fair to assume you no longer support that particular group since you stated yourself that you would only support them 'so long as they acted within the law'?

In your own time there, Tony.

If a BBC reporter and camera crew turned up at your house out of the blue would you be happy,unless it's a stunt on Michael Mc Intyre's show
1. If a BBC reporter and camera crew turned up at your house out of the blue and acted entirely lawfully, would you feel you have the right to break the law in response?
2. You clearly stated that you supported these groups "so long as they act within the law". Given that this group quite clearly broke several laws in response to them being 'unhappy' at something, is it not fair to assume that either you no longer support the group in question or else you were lying in saying your support was conditional on their law abiding behaviour?

Once again... in your own time, Tony.

I know I said 'in your own time' but let's not take the mickey here. Any chance of an answer or two?

Grow a pair and answer,Tony ffs.
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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Last post by tonto1888 on Today at 10:15:32 PM »
Hard to see where Brendan goes from here.Another domestic treble won't raise a clap hardly and Europe another poor failure

maybe not from you
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General discussion / Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
« Last post by Captain Obvious on Today at 10:08:16 PM »
Tremendous stuff.
All worked out well in the end.
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More like frozen lakes when it comes to McHale..

How's that massively expensive new Hyde pitch behaving itself ....... where a couple of weeks ago (Ros v Down) it wasn't able to handle a double header meaning Ros ladies v Meath was moved....

The pitch was so rock solid (after a week of showers) for the FBD final that the ball bounced over a Galway back to Enda, leading to a goal for us.

The worm has turned and it’s yer pitch that’s the provincial embarrassment..
I suppose it's too much to expect an expression of gratitude to Connacht Council and it's visionary Secretary for funding and guiding the pitch redevelopment :P :P :P

It was pretty much entirely funded by Croke Park. With the lack of funding Prenty has offered every Connacht county besides his own over the years for infrastructure projects I’m surprised you thought he had much to do with the new pitch.
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General discussion / Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
« Last post by Puckoon on Today at 10:05:20 PM »
Tremendous stuff.

I didn’t know there were lower rungs on the ladder
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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Last post by Dash83 on Today at 10:05:13 PM »
We should hang on to him for the 10 in a row and then sack him for under performing...
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More like frozen lakes when it comes to McHale..

How's that massively expensive new Hyde pitch behaving itself ....... where a couple of weeks ago (Ros v Down) it wasn't able to handle a double header meaning Ros ladies v Meath was moved....

The pitch was so rock solid (after a week of showers) for the FBD final that the ball bounced over a Galway back to Enda, leading to a goal for us.

The worm has turned and it’s yer pitch that’s the provincial embarrassment..
I suppose it's too much to expect an expression of gratitude to Connacht Council and it's visionary Secretary for funding and guiding the pitch redevelopment :P :P :P
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General discussion / Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
« Last post by From the Bunker on Today at 09:57:39 PM »
Job done......Now the Cup final on Sunday!  ;)
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