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#1
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
February 24, 2021, 08:34:53 AM
Quote from: lenny on February 23, 2021, 06:48:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 23, 2021, 06:40:35 PM
BJ is reviewing the the vaccine passport having dismissed it before, backtracking it seems.

I've people coming into work with lanyards on with the "vaccined" card

Hopefully this will increase the likelihood of going on holidays, entering bars and restaurants

Totally agree, it'd be great to know when you're on a flight that everyone is vaccinated. It'd also be great there was a high uptake of the vaccine in countries you're going to. I see some companies are requiring their employees to get the vaccine and that's something I'm glad to see. People should be free to not take the vaccine but they shouldn't be free to put other people at risk. If I'm in a crowded bar or restaurant I'd like to think everyone in there has had the vaccine.
Does the vaccine stop you from carrying the virus ? Does the vaccine stop you from getting the virus ? If the answer to both the questions is yes then you don't have to worry about vaccine passports for your safety (as long as you have been vaccinated ).
#2
General discussion / Re: Gardening
July 31, 2020, 10:17:40 AM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on July 31, 2020, 09:48:49 AM
Anyone recommend any alternatives to wood decking?

Is composite decking really easy to keep? Don't want something that transforms into an ice rink in winter and needs a day of scrubbing every spring to clean up!

go for full upvc deck boards, more expensive but better job.
#3
The ball must be played forward except inside the attacking 20m line. Simple.
#4
GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
March 01, 2017, 12:15:52 PM
The 13 day rule being reduced to 6 day rule would be a big benefit to clubs and county panellists. would free up almost a month during the summer whilst still allowing the county programmes to continue unhindered.
County players have no bother playing on a weekly basis during the league so shouldn't be a problem.
#5
GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
February 28, 2017, 01:07:32 PM
Quote from: Zulu on February 28, 2017, 12:54:40 PM
We've removed replays outside of provincial and All Ireland finals and moved the championship forward to August so freeing up September. We have increased the number of high profile games at the business end of the championship, brought big games to provincial venues and helped to address the imbalances between the way Munster champions get to an All Ireland and the Ulster ones do. We have a championship that trundles on until maybe QF stage before we get any notable games and even then it's often SF stage. So we now have a better championship, less gaps between games, more time for clubs after championship. We also saw congress stick to their guns on U17 players which will also eventually help schedule club games.

As I said, as everyone who supports this says, this isn't the solution to our problems but it is part of a movement towards a better format that hopefully will address most of our problems.

The removal of replays is was not part of the motion on super 8s.
Introduced a round of dead rubber games at the business end of the championship.
Made it easier on the Munster finalists giving them an additional chance.
Only 2 counties are affected in September anyway.
So I'll ask again what issues does the super 8 FIX.
#6
GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
February 28, 2017, 12:54:02 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 28, 2017, 12:48:12 PM
MYTHS

That super 8 is for the benefit of Club football.
That it is for the benefit of the weaker counties.
That it is for the benefit of the players.
That it makes it harder for Kerry/Dublin to win AI titles.
That Dublin would be asked to play outside Croker in Super 8.

REALITIES


Croker needs more big games to satisfy Vendors, Corporate Boxes, Sky TV, Dublin Media.
Dublin will only play Super 8 game outside Croker if game is a dead Rubber.
Leading counties Dublin/Kerry/Tyrone/Donegal/Mayo now get three chances.
To play games week in week out over the months of July and August needs huge player resources.
There is the cost on the fan?
The disruption of Holidays.
It's alright for Zulu and his fellow Dubs who will have all this on his doorstep with little peripheral cost or time.
How many backdoor routes can you create for to get a AI winner?

We already have all the Good teams playing each other in Division One of the League.
This is the Cup! Is the Cup not supposed to be Knockout?


The Reality is that the GAA want to Milk the Dublin Cash cow! When they are looking at the Big games they are looking at how many of the Good teams they can get playing Dublin and filling Croke Park.

Consecutive Draws between Mayo and Dublin have shown them the real money that can be mopped up from this.

Spot on. Seems about right.
#7
GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
February 28, 2017, 12:43:28 PM
Quote from: Zulu on February 28, 2017, 12:35:40 PM
I don't know if that's true but this super 8 also address some issues that needed addressing anyway.

What issues are being addressed ? I'm at a loss.
#8
GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
February 28, 2017, 12:26:23 PM
Quote from: Zulu on February 28, 2017, 12:17:45 PM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 11:05:10 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on February 28, 2017, 10:54:18 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 10:49:25 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on February 28, 2017, 10:38:43 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 10:32:58 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on February 28, 2017, 09:49:30 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 09:43:01 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 28, 2017, 09:30:01 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 09:18:36 AM
I don't see any right minded player or manager wanting to play three extra matches at that stage of a competition. No benefit to the teams. increased injury risk and fatigue when you least need it.
Shouldn't be a problem if the mid week training is adjusted accordingly. However, with the amount of dinosaurs still taking sessions there might be problems...workrate wasn't high enough last Saturday lads, let's train the bollox off ye Wednesday to get us right for next Saturday..that'll do the trick.

So you reach the last eight in the championship and you're telling me that you would rather play three matches rather than one match to get to the semi final ???
If you told a team in June that they had to play no games and that they'd go straight into the All-Ireland final I'd say they'd take that too.

The point is that players want to play more games during the summer months. It also makes it a more level playing field by making the path to the final for the likes of Dublin and Kerry more difficult. That's two problems that the Super 8 solves. If it creates a problem elsewhere then fair enough. But the claim is that the proposals tried to address some of the issues that GAA people had with the current system.

So do club players (the GAA majority).
I know. So what do you do? I see the Wicklow manager saying his players should go on strike because they only got two games last summer. The Wicklow club players will be able to play all of July, August and September next year. How do you keep everyone happy? What does the Wicklow manager want so that he gets more games? A second-tier championship that they can compete in? Nope, the very players he says are being treated like dogs don't want it.

So many complaints, so few answers.

A tiered championship is the answer. Yes teams always want to play in the Sam Maguire but if they want more meaningful games then a structure similar to the hurling championship must be introduced in football. Earn your right to compete.
Fine, but that won't pass at congress even with the 60% pass rate so, with respect, it's fairly pointless in 2017. Maybe in three years time it might be a runner but we're dealing with, and criticising, what's been passed in 2017.

I agree with that. However in three years time there will never be an appetite for the tiered system. If it had been treated the same way in hurling the structure would never have changed either. The decision had to be taken despite the protests.

You don't know what people will want in 3 years time and you don't know the tiered system will work in football. There's fairly clear tiers in hurling. Finally, Croke Park are getting abused to the high hilt for this fairly modest change and you thing they should have forced (how I don't know) a proposal through that would have had little or no support in congress?

As Esmarelda keeps pointing out, this was the only realistic change that was likely to get through congress. The more radical changes that most agree we need won't get through in one go. So criticisms have to be tempered by that reality if they are to be valid.

I suppose if you want to cut to the chase you'll probably find that it has a lot to do with an up and coming SKY deal  ;) lets not be naive
#9
GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
February 28, 2017, 11:12:04 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on February 28, 2017, 11:09:07 AM
Despite the players' protests? Who's in favour of such a system?

Not player protests in hurling, it was more the county boards.
#10
GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
February 28, 2017, 11:05:10 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on February 28, 2017, 10:54:18 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 10:49:25 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on February 28, 2017, 10:38:43 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 10:32:58 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on February 28, 2017, 09:49:30 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 09:43:01 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 28, 2017, 09:30:01 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 09:18:36 AM
I don't see any right minded player or manager wanting to play three extra matches at that stage of a competition. No benefit to the teams. increased injury risk and fatigue when you least need it.
Shouldn't be a problem if the mid week training is adjusted accordingly. However, with the amount of dinosaurs still taking sessions there might be problems...workrate wasn't high enough last Saturday lads, let's train the bollox off ye Wednesday to get us right for next Saturday..that'll do the trick.

So you reach the last eight in the championship and you're telling me that you would rather play three matches rather than one match to get to the semi final ???
If you told a team in June that they had to play no games and that they'd go straight into the All-Ireland final I'd say they'd take that too.

The point is that players want to play more games during the summer months. It also makes it a more level playing field by making the path to the final for the likes of Dublin and Kerry more difficult. That's two problems that the Super 8 solves. If it creates a problem elsewhere then fair enough. But the claim is that the proposals tried to address some of the issues that GAA people had with the current system.

So do club players (the GAA majority).
I know. So what do you do? I see the Wicklow manager saying his players should go on strike because they only got two games last summer. The Wicklow club players will be able to play all of July, August and September next year. How do you keep everyone happy? What does the Wicklow manager want so that he gets more games? A second-tier championship that they can compete in? Nope, the very players he says are being treated like dogs don't want it.

So many complaints, so few answers.

A tiered championship is the answer. Yes teams always want to play in the Sam Maguire but if they want more meaningful games then a structure similar to the hurling championship must be introduced in football. Earn your right to compete.
Fine, but that won't pass at congress even with the 60% pass rate so, with respect, it's fairly pointless in 2017. Maybe in three years time it might be a runner but we're dealing with, and criticising, what's been passed in 2017.

I agree with that. However in three years time there will never be an appetite for the tiered system. If it had been treated the same way in hurling the structure would never have changed either. The decision had to be taken despite the protests.
#11
Quote from: AQMP on February 28, 2017, 10:09:51 AM
Latest Lucid Talk Poll shows DUP at 26.3%, actually UP from the last poll.  God save us all - there is no hope for this rotten state!

However down 3% from the last election.
#12
GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
February 28, 2017, 10:52:25 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on February 28, 2017, 10:44:30 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 10:32:58 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on February 28, 2017, 09:49:30 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 09:43:01 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 28, 2017, 09:30:01 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 09:18:36 AM
I don't see any right minded player or manager wanting to play three extra matches at that stage of a competition. No benefit to the teams. increased injury risk and fatigue when you least need it.
Shouldn't be a problem if the mid week training is adjusted accordingly. However, with the amount of dinosaurs still taking sessions there might be problems...workrate wasn't high enough last Saturday lads, let's train the bollox off ye Wednesday to get us right for next Saturday..that'll do the trick.

So you reach the last eight in the championship and you're telling me that you would rather play three matches rather than one match to get to the semi final ???
If you told a team in June that they had to play no games and that they'd go straight into the All-Ireland final I'd say they'd take that too.

The point is that players want to play more games during the summer months. It also makes it a more level playing field by making the path to the final for the likes of Dublin and Kerry more difficult. That's two problems that the Super 8 solves. If it creates a problem elsewhere then fair enough. But the claim is that the proposals tried to address some of the issues that GAA people had with the current system.

So do club players (the GAA majority).

Bringing the games forward addresses this. Even clubs in successful counties get September back. Those outside the 8 have July / August for their club games also.

All but two counties had September anyway.  ;)
#13
GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
February 28, 2017, 10:49:25 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on February 28, 2017, 10:38:43 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 10:32:58 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on February 28, 2017, 09:49:30 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 09:43:01 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 28, 2017, 09:30:01 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 09:18:36 AM
I don't see any right minded player or manager wanting to play three extra matches at that stage of a competition. No benefit to the teams. increased injury risk and fatigue when you least need it.
Shouldn't be a problem if the mid week training is adjusted accordingly. However, with the amount of dinosaurs still taking sessions there might be problems...workrate wasn't high enough last Saturday lads, let's train the bollox off ye Wednesday to get us right for next Saturday..that'll do the trick.

So you reach the last eight in the championship and you're telling me that you would rather play three matches rather than one match to get to the semi final ???
If you told a team in June that they had to play no games and that they'd go straight into the All-Ireland final I'd say they'd take that too.

The point is that players want to play more games during the summer months. It also makes it a more level playing field by making the path to the final for the likes of Dublin and Kerry more difficult. That's two problems that the Super 8 solves. If it creates a problem elsewhere then fair enough. But the claim is that the proposals tried to address some of the issues that GAA people had with the current system.

So do club players (the GAA majority).
I know. So what do you do? I see the Wicklow manager saying his players should go on strike because they only got two games last summer. The Wicklow club players will be able to play all of July, August and September next year. How do you keep everyone happy? What does the Wicklow manager want so that he gets more games? A second-tier championship that they can compete in? Nope, the very players he says are being treated like dogs don't want it.

So many complaints, so few answers.

A tiered championship is the answer. Yes teams always want to play in the Sam Maguire but if they want more meaningful games then a structure similar to the hurling championship must be introduced in football. Earn your right to compete.
#14
GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
February 28, 2017, 10:32:58 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on February 28, 2017, 09:49:30 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 09:43:01 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 28, 2017, 09:30:01 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 09:18:36 AM
I don't see any right minded player or manager wanting to play three extra matches at that stage of a competition. No benefit to the teams. increased injury risk and fatigue when you least need it.
Shouldn't be a problem if the mid week training is adjusted accordingly. However, with the amount of dinosaurs still taking sessions there might be problems...workrate wasn't high enough last Saturday lads, let's train the bollox off ye Wednesday to get us right for next Saturday..that'll do the trick.

So you reach the last eight in the championship and you're telling me that you would rather play three matches rather than one match to get to the semi final ???
If you told a team in June that they had to play no games and that they'd go straight into the All-Ireland final I'd say they'd take that too.

The point is that players want to play more games during the summer months. It also makes it a more level playing field by making the path to the final for the likes of Dublin and Kerry more difficult. That's two problems that the Super 8 solves. If it creates a problem elsewhere then fair enough. But the claim is that the proposals tried to address some of the issues that GAA people had with the current system.

So do club players (the GAA majority).
#15
GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
February 28, 2017, 09:43:01 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 28, 2017, 09:30:01 AM
Quote from: ha ha derry on February 28, 2017, 09:18:36 AM
I don't see any right minded player or manager wanting to play three extra matches at that stage of a competition. No benefit to the teams. increased injury risk and fatigue when you least need it.
Shouldn't be a problem if the mid week training is adjusted accordingly. However, with the amount of dinosaurs still taking sessions there might be problems...workrate wasn't high enough last Saturday lads, let's train the bollox off ye Wednesday to get us right for next Saturday..that'll do the trick.

So you reach the last eight in the championship and you're telling me that you would rather play three matches rather than one match to get to the semi final ???