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[Sun 21st Oct 18]

Fionn Dromore never conceded a reserve game in 2018, haven't to my knowledge conceded a reserve game in at least 10 years.

From tyronegaa.ie/fixtures-results-2018

Sun 21st Oct 18

An Droim Mór Naoimh Damhnait (CONC) v (0-0) Domhnach Mór Naoimh Pádraig

ACFL Division 1 Reserve 2018 9
12:00 PM

Definitely wrong on the website the

Definitely right Dromore pitch could only take one game on day due to water. But nothing to do with the ability or desire of Dromore to field.

Good job Itchy the GAA has no association with the RIC....wait 7 founding members in Thurles and one of them a serving member of you know who....another name to be airbrushed out of our History Thomas McCarthy.

I presume you know the names of the other 5 beside Cusack?
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Davin (stand)
Braken
power
Ryan an McKay

Mc Carthy storey always stood out for me as his place in GAA history has only in recent times been acknowledged he was in a paupers unmarked grave until the GAA put the history straight a few years back.

Good job Itchy the GAA has no association with the RIC....wait 7 founding members in Thurles and one of them a serving member of you know who....another name to be airbrushed out of our History Thomas McCarthy.

The RIC actively and nastily fought against the establishment of an Independent Irish State as voted for in 1918.
It is simply wrong that the Independent Irish State should officially commemorate (I.e celebrate) such an organisation.
If the FG party want to....let them at it but leave the State out if it.

The 100th anniversary of the abolition of the RIC would be worth marking and a good reason for historians to compile a record of the organisation, warts and all.

More Revisionist bullshit Cork was Burned by the Tans and the British Army not the RIC.. I have no issue with you holding your views on these men but stop inventing Historical facts to justify your views.

Skillfullbill - you can talk all the revisionist shite you like on here. The facts are the RIC were the strong arm of british rule in Ireland. The assisted evictions of our poorest during famine times, they assisted the British government in identifying and setting up IRA volunteers for assisination. They tortured Irish citizens. I have no issue with families remembering individuals who served in that force but to honour them as a whole is crazy, even for the blueshirts, a spectacular own goal, and I would say a slipping of the mask. Watch how they try to back peddle out of this over the coming week. I will be watching which of my local politicians attend and I have already written to each of them to ask if they support it, I will vote accordingly in the General Election.

What you say about a united Ireland is more crap. Since when did any unionist in the 6 counties request this memorial. By putting it out there FG has created a problem that never existed that the DUP will now jump all over. Complete stupidity by Leo and Flanagan, pair of half wits.

I wonder when Michael Martin will finish checking what way the wind is blowing before he grows a pair and tells us what he thinks?

Who is the Revisionist ?

1916 proclamation signatures out of 7 men

One was an ex member of the British Army
One was the son of a Britsh Army Soldier
One was a son of an RIC officer.

You are entitled to hold the view that these men where traitors to Ireland when viewed through Post 1916 republicanism what your not entitled to do is make up Histort to suit your narrative.

Irish History did not start in Easter 1916.

Prior to that was Redmonds Home Rule movement which represented the vast majority of Irish thinking pre 1916 and before that was Parnells Home rule movement.

Itchy stop making it up.

the RIC were regarded as British Quislings.

the members of the RIC can be viewed through rose tinted lenses as mere civic police, the truth is from the mid 19th century to 1922, the Irishmen who joined the force, were deemed as traitors to the local community because they choose to better themselves by taking the coin from an occupying force rather than resisting like most of the natives. They were then on the wrong side of history when independence was achieved(with no help from them) and when the RIC was disbanded, for years after former RIC men were detested and for their families there was an element of shame attached to the RIC assocaiation.

now we have the west brit leaning element within FG trying to erase that "family shame" with this lamentable commemoration lark. another nail in the coffin of the outgoing fg administration, certain to rise the blood of even mild nationalists come election time, but par for the course now, as fgare   globo/multiculturalist cheerleaders, and the "forgive all" fits with that narrative.

With a future vote on the six counties re-uniting likely to happen inside 10/20 years, a key subset of voters in that referendum would be the comfortable castle catholics in the north.  In their hearts they want a united Ireland, but I wonder if just like the RIC, will they choose to vote with their pockets especially if they are earning their corn working for the British government in some capacity or other.

In essence, within war zones, as in the fight for Irish independence, they will be casualties and nasty conflict as part of the territory. One of the rawest aspects of war  is when some of what are regarded as "your own"  fight against you for the other side. The RIC, well the catholic members of it, were Irish natives happy to take the side of the Brits against the locals. Anyone sympathising with the RIC should be ashamed to call themselves Irish.

With attitudes towards history such as this you may kiss bye bye to any prospects of United Irelsnd for the next 100 years. The Castke Catholics represent a sizable vote in the North and an even greater vote in the South. If you try to understand history the the prisim of the past you will never build a future  The invention of mass republicanism prevailing pre 1916 does not stand up to any historical inspection. These views on RIC membership was not representative of the time and is invented History.

Eh the RIC were immediate predecessors of the RUC, maybe worth researching their behaviour in Belfast in the 1920s just before they became the RUC

At least we are getting some where as I have said the RIC was reflective of Irish Society of it's time and in the 6 counties the RIC force was a predominantly sectarian Orange force  particularly in Belfast and was an immediate for runner to the RUC. But again the six counties of the time represented 30%of Irish society of the time and the majority of the RIC represented Irish society of 1918. Which had by this time become republican between 1916 - 18. Do not forget the volunteers of 1916 where spat at by the population of Dublin after they left the GPO. This was because many of the poor of Dublin had sons fighting in France.Maybe you need to read Donal McAnallens book on the Forgotten History of the GAA.

If in a United Ireland, Unionists wanted the  government to honour RUC men who lost their lives in the Troubles, or indeed the precursor to the RUC, the RIC - would it be okay to commemorate RIC then. SF do tell them they have nothing to fear in a United Ireland, all traditions, both sides of history welcome.

They are already honoured. There are statues and monuments to the RUC and UDR. There are British military memorials everywhere. Belfast city hall is like a British army museum. Various Councils see fit piss away hundreds of thousands of pounds on military circle jerks and trips to Flanders. What makes anyone think that in a united ireland this would change?

RUC and UDR have no connection to RIC the are separated by up on 60 years . Incidentally a very significant number of UDR men where actually Irish Catholics when they where first formed in the 1970s. There are one or two republican families about with a dirty little secret in the family history as the initial months of the formation of the UDR many Republicans joined up in a bid to preventing it becoming another B Specials outfit.

A major own goal by leo the clown. Who wanted this, where was the demand for this, why not commemorate 100s of other way more worthy people out there. Just incredible stupidity by FG. The RIC were part of an occupying force which oppressed the irish people and I dont care what religion they were. They enforced eviction of our poorest, they supported and worked with Tans and auxilleraries. They tortured and maimed. f**k their commeration in this ridiculous attempt at revisionism.

Nonsense The Civic Guard was formed in 1923 which was the fore runner of The Garda Siochana where formed from the Republican Irish Police and the RIC. of which the majority where former members of the RIC. So the police force of the newly formed state was actually predominantly former members of the RIC. The RIC of 1900 - 1922 was a representative force made up of Royalists Landed gentry Farming class farm labourers city slum dwellers protestant catholic Republican and unionist. IE reflective of Irish society of 1900 - 1923. Revisionist of 2020 have no right to impose 2020 hindsight or propaganda on the motivation of men from 100 years ago without truly reflecting the political or society norms of the time. Any other approach is blind sided nonsense which is fairly blinkered in its views.

Did FG stop for a moment and think that if the RIC had been successful in 1919-21 there wouldn't have been an Irish Free State or subsequent Independent Irish State?
Leo would be First Minister of a Region of the "UK" and we'd now be leaving the EU.
PS Bruton was a disgrace in 1995

Pure dung.  RIC was supplemented by the Black and Tans because the British Government could not rely on a the RIC to carry out their will in Ireland.The reason for this is that they were representative of the Irish population of the time that voted 70% for the newly formed Sinn Fein of 1918. Don't confuse 2020 for 100 years ago.

Some serious poor revisionist Historians on here. RIC was a 70% -80% catholic force who served in an Ireland which was at a time when the majority of the population was at the very least subservient to the Crown. You are talking about a force which was very representative of the Irish population of the time and was made up of men from poor backgrounds who seen a way out of poverty which at the time was not seen through a prisim of partition. FFSake the RIC where disbanded in 1922. Not to be confused by the Orange Force of the RUC. What chance of convincing 800 000 protestant that their culture and history would be respected in a United Ireland if catholic Ireland does not have the sense to respect there own...RIC were not the Black and Tans who where Auxiliaries recruited from main English/Scottish poverty stricken and trench effected veterans of the WW I butchers feud.

What about the McGuinness fella? I assume he is 6 foot under at this stage but where was he buried. Heard nothing about it at all.

Gone up in smoke...

Had Harte retired in 2008 he would have been in top 3 but has gradually undermined his own legacy as the years and years and years went on and on and on and on and on.

Getting average enough Tyrone teams to All Ireland semi finals and All Ireland final last year was achievements that shouldn't be underestimated.

It's a pity he couldn't get one of these average enough teams to actually beat any team of note and I mean any team of note in the last 10 years you think a good manager would at least work one single win. Please don't give me that crap about getting average teams to semis Harte has proved himself to be an average manager of average teams. Not on the same pitch as most of the others on that list.

Had Harte retired in 2008 he would have been in top 3 but has gradually undermined his own legacy as the years and years and years went on and on and on and on and on.

Derg won G1 minor championship in 1989. Had a good team obviously, a few Cattersons, Benny Lynch, Aidan Lynch, lad Connolly......how come they never pushed on?

Dungannon won the minor championship in 89 beat Carmen in final and went on to win Ulster.