Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[blewuporstuffed]

It was very accurate analysis of what happened in Omagh.

For someone who said he watched the game back 3 times it wasnt very acurate at all

The Monaghan goal (not the manager's fault) is a classic illustration of the weakness of this system. Vinny came through the middle at the diagonal, unmarked, got inside the cover, took the pass, and from that point on it became a simple goal, as Tyrone players rushed to the man in possession like under 14s. Vinny, unmarked, drew the first defender and laid it off to Conor McManus, unmarked, who drew the covering player and slipped it back to Vinny to tap it into the empty net.

It was Darren Hughes that played the pass to Corey, not McManus

As an analysis of Tyrone's tactics... v accurate

Ok , so just accurate on the things that he didn't get completely wrong

[southtyronegael]

Great article in yesterdays Irish independent by Joe brolly.. You can access it on his Twitter feed.

.....or you can just fcukin ignore it!!!

yeah just ignore it.wouldn't want to hear anyone criticize Tyrone football would we.

[longballin]

It was very accurate analysis of what happened in Omagh.

For someone who said he watched the game back 3 times it wasnt very acurate at all

The Monaghan goal (not the manager's fault) is a classic illustration of the weakness of this system. Vinny came through the middle at the diagonal, unmarked, got inside the cover, took the pass, and from that point on it became a simple goal, as Tyrone players rushed to the man in possession like under 14s. Vinny, unmarked, drew the first defender and laid it off to Conor McManus, unmarked, who drew the covering player and slipped it back to Vinny to tap it into the empty net.

It was Darren Hughes that played the pass to Corey, not McManus

As an analysis of Tyrone's tactics... v accurate

Ok , so just accurate on the things that he didn't get completely wrong

The truth will set you free. Joe is on the nail. No change to Tyrone tactics

[BennyHarp]

On this "Tyrone manager for life stuff". How's the chopping and changing manager thing going for Derry? When Mickey took over there was nothing between the two counties. Now, there's 3 divisions and an aggregate of around 50 points in their meetings last year. Funny how his ire is always pointed at Tyrone and very rarely at the real footballing shambles in Ulster which is his own county.

[GetOverTheBar]

Meath, fairly average team - beaten by Longford. Tyrone probably couldn't have asked for a better draw to begin the long road - maybe Kildare, but they do have some really good players just morale must be so low right now.

Tyrone will beat them handy enough in the 2nd half, whilst they lost to Monaghan, Meath have nowhere near that calibre of player.

[SkillfulBill]

On this "Tyrone manager for life stuff". How's the chopping and changing manager thing going for Derry? When Mickey took over there was nothing between the two counties. Now, there's 3 divisions and an aggregate of around 50 points in their meetings last year. Funny how his ire is always pointed at Tyrone and very rarely at the real footballing shambles in Ulster which is his own county.

Benny this would fall into the Catagory of fake news not even closely comparable we are talking about a manager who has been at the helm for 16 years now a better comparison is Sean Boylan and Meath and that is the future that awaits Tyrone Harte has over stayed his tenure by approximately 7-8 years and will leave a wasteland of forwards behind him can someone please name one outstanding forward that Mickey has helped give to the county over the last 10 years. That is the true legacy he is leaving behind him.

[longballin]

On this "Tyrone manager for life stuff". How's the chopping and changing manager thing going for Derry? When Mickey took over there was nothing between the two counties. Now, there's 3 divisions and an aggregate of around 50 points in their meetings last year. Funny how his ire is always pointed at Tyrone and very rarely at the real footballing shambles in Ulster which is his own county.

Brolly has lashed the Derry set-up and county football on numerous occasions and withdrew from Club Derry or whatever they call it when they appointed Mickey Donnelly as underage manager above his former team mates but don't suit your agenda to remember that.

[SkillfulBill]

1950s Iggy Jones
1960s Frankie Donnelly
1970s Frank mc Guigan
1980s Eugene McKenna
1990s Peter Canavan
2000s Steven Oneill
2010s Surely he can produce one ?

[longballin]

1950s Iggy Jones
1960s Frankie Donnelly
1970s Frank mc Guigan
1980s Eugene McKenna
1990s Peter Canavan
2000s Steven Oneill
2010s Surely he can produce one ?

Sean Cavanagh?

[southtyronegael]

1950s Iggy Jones
1960s Frankie Donnelly
1970s Frank mc Guigan
1980s Eugene McKenna
1990s Peter Canavan
2000s Steven Oneill
2010s Surely he can produce one ?

tiarnan mc cann? aiden mc crory?

[SkillfulBill]

1950s Iggy Jones
1960s Frankie Donnelly
1970s Frank mc Guigan
1980s Eugene McKenna
1990s Peter Canavan
2000s Steven Oneill
2010s Surely he can produce one ?

Sean Cavanagh?

Not giving you that one he peaked in 08 I am looking for a true Harte protege.......anyway not sure if he really fits in the class of natural talent of the other 6 named

[longballin]

1950s Iggy Jones
1960s Frankie Donnelly
1970s Frank mc Guigan
1980s Eugene McKenna
1990s Peter Canavan
2000s Steven Oneill
2010s Surely he can produce one ?

Sean Cavanagh?

Not giving you that one he peaked in 08 I am looking for a true Harte protege.......anyway not sure if he really fits in the class of natural talent of the other 6 named

I think you'll find he was most influential player since 2010 as Tyrone are finding out. No-one this decade comes close to those other players.

[SkillfulBill]

1950s Iggy Jones
1960s Frankie Donnelly
1970s Frank mc Guigan
1980s Eugene McKenna
1990s Peter Canavan
2000s Steven Oneill
2010s Surely he can produce one ?

Sean Cavanagh?

Not giving you that one he peaked in 08 I am looking for a true Harte protege.......anyway not sure if he really fits in the class of natural talent of the other 6 named

I think you'll find he was most influential player since 2010 as Tyrone are finding out. No-one this decade comes close to those other players.

I won't disagree with you that Sean was the most influential player since 2010 but the way Tyrone is set up prevented him from achieving a place on that list. Great player that he was not sure he achieved his true potential under Harte. I think 2009 v Cork changed the dynamic Mickey never set up his team to truely milk the best out of Sean.

[longballin]

1950s Iggy Jones
1960s Frankie Donnelly
1970s Frank mc Guigan
1980s Eugene McKenna
1990s Peter Canavan
2000s Steven Oneill
2010s Surely he can produce one ?

Sean Cavanagh?

Not giving you that one he peaked in 08 I am looking for a true Harte protege.......anyway not sure if he really fits in the class of natural talent of the other 6 named

I think you'll find he was most influential player since 2010 as Tyrone are finding out. No-one this decade comes close to those other players.

I won't disagree with you that Sean was the most influential player since 2010 but the way Tyrone is set up prevented him from achieving a place on that list. Great player that he was not sure he achieved his true potential under Harte. I think 2009 v Cork changed the dynamic Mickey never set up his team to truely milk the best out of Sean.

Having said that, I think Brian Dooher more entitled to be on 2000s list than Stephen O'Neill. In 2008 O'Neill played one game and wasn't great that day... 2003 final I think came on as sub. O'Neill was a class act but Dooher phenomenal that decade.

[Fuzzman]

Both are my own clubmates but one time I went around asking lots of different people from different counties who would they pick if they could ONLY pick one of them two and the majority went for Dooher.

Stevie hit some amazing scores on his day and in all honesty I don't think we really ever got to see how good he could have been as he had so many injuries when Canavan was at his prime. The two often didn't play on the one team that much but when they did it was a joy to watch.