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Tyrone / Re: Co. Board/Garvaghey etc
« on: November 29, 2017, 04:12:48 PM »
Garvaghey and everything to do with it at the minute is a complete shambles. Very few things have went right this year. We have all the issues going on at the minute, add to that then the sponsorship saga, Peter Donnelly saga, RTE, and let's not forget about the feile incident at the beginning of the year when Garvaghey couldn't be opened to accommodate the u14s...heaven forbid Gary Glitter had been hiding behind a windmill that night or he would have had a field day.

add to that the way Mickeys new contract was sorted as well..

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Tyrone / Re: Co. Board/Garvaghey etc
« on: November 29, 2017, 12:25:27 PM »
I am led to believe the way it works is your will be charged a levy in your affiliation fees 50% which you can recoup if you go out and sell tickets if you dont its your loss as you have been charged for it.........
Ah right. I didn't know how they were organising it.

also are you all aware clubs do not get one penny from gate money ,for the Tyrone club championship.....
That's definitely not true. They get 10% of the gate, but for a large crowd, the club's slice is capped at 700/750

i was told last night for 5 senior championship games last year we never got one penny....i will make it my business to check that out later........

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Tyrone / Re: Co. Board/Garvaghey etc
« on: November 29, 2017, 11:54:21 AM »
I am led to believe the way it works is your will be charged a levy in your affiliation fees 50% which you can recoup if you go out and sell tickets if you dont its your loss as you have been charged for it......... also are you all aware clubs do not get one penny from gate money ,for the Tyrone club championship.....

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Tyrone / Re: Co. Board/Garvaghey etc
« on: November 28, 2017, 05:37:07 PM »
Why should the Clubs have to pay for Garvaghy?

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: November 27, 2017, 05:09:11 PM »
Rumour Mill has it McAleer and Rushe were shafted badly. Offer came in higher than their deal, they agreed to match it but the very next day "new sponsors" announced. Stinks

Also hearing Begleys are fuming. Apparently with all the "rumours" flying around they repeatedly asked the County Board/Representatives was there going to be a change and were reassured No. So they bought in loads and loads of McAleer and Rushe gear for Xmas only to be shafted also. Parents the same who have been paying off on gear for the big man


Not rumours..... stinking rotten the whole lot of it......

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 27, 2017, 04:39:51 PM »
i heard

Liam Donnelly to Trillick

Fergal McCusker to Galbally


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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: November 27, 2017, 12:59:59 PM »
So the situation is...McAleer and Rush deal up for renewal they meet County Executive and Club Tyrone,finance all sorted and they question is it possible a player can be made available to RTE when asked for an interview after the game,County executive relay information back to Mickey Harte to broker a deal,Harte then on his own bat sources a "new sponsor" offering more money than McAleer and Rushe they say they will match it, they dont get contacted again and new sponsor is announced, no interviews on the night and Club Tyrone send no representatives to the launch..... not the last we will hear of this i presume.... there is some stink around Garvaghy at the minute and eventually this will not end good as the cartel seem to tighten the grip at every opportunity....

I think we all know that's bullshit. If any case if a scenario like this did develop I would hope that the county board would tell a corporate sponsor to ram it rather than let them dictate internal policy. RTE have treated Tyrone GAA and their players disgracefully in recent years.Tiernan McCann and Sean Cavanagh are just two players who were the result of despicable campaigns never mind the depths they sank to with Mickey Harte.

Well believe what what you want too believe..... the whole thing is rotten to core where does it all end, time will tell the way the 3 year contract was handed out and the way the sponsorship was handled is stinking and cannot end good..... Sean Cavanagh was not long runnng to RTE after he retired for a man who was insulted.... there is a dictatorship operating here people will catch on when its too late we are nearly there......

That's Sean Cavanagh's prerogative. Tyrone GAA are within their rights not to talk to RTE and given how RTE have treated  Tyrone GAA I cannot understand the clamour for us to engage with them not can I understand the clamour for corporate sponsors to dictate internal policy. I guess that tells you more about the agenda of those who express such wishes.

Sean Cavanagh Brian McGuigan Philip Jordan among others have all done work for RTE after Tyrone retirement that would tell me that that dont support the dictatorship that operates from within this County..... why not just tell McAleer and Rushe the situation will not be changing??? instead of doing what was done its wrong and stinks from the highest heavon....Mickey Harte managers our football team he should keep his nose out of everything else......

Yes, that's right - Mickey Harte is manager of the football team. Odd how you think a key figure who works with the players everyday should not have any influence of the roles of the people he is charged with managing but on the other hand you think it acceptable external parties like McAleer and Rushe who have no direct involvement with the players should be dictating internal policy.

It's no business of any commercial sponsor to dictate internal policy of Tyrone GAA.


Why did the county executive try to clear the air with Harte then??? This is not internal policy of Tyrone Gaa it is the internal policy of a full blown dictatorship..... Harte manages our football team he should not be sticking his nose into these things if he told County Executive his stance does not change and that is relayed to McAleer and Rushe of who ever the sponsor maybe thats fine.....but no he run off and sourced his own sponsor the cartel backed him...... Club Tyrone did not back him and has left a rift on that end.......can you not see this is wrong.... if our County executuive goes back and tells McAleer and rushe that Mickey stance has not changed and we are backing him that is fine who knows McAleer and Rushe may have excepted this but we dont know as no one had the manners to get back to them........ rubbing people up the wrong road at its best....

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: November 27, 2017, 10:05:16 AM »
So the situation is...McAleer and Rush deal up for renewal they meet County Executive and Club Tyrone,finance all sorted and they question is it possible a player can be made available to RTE when asked for an interview after the game,County executive relay information back to Mickey Harte to broker a deal,Harte then on his own bat sources a "new sponsor" offering more money than McAleer and Rushe they say they will match it, they dont get contacted again and new sponsor is announced, no interviews on the night and Club Tyrone send no representatives to the launch..... not the last we will hear of this i presume.... there is some stink around Garvaghy at the minute and eventually this will not end good as the cartel seem to tighten the grip at every opportunity....

I think we all know that's bullshit. If any case if a scenario like this did develop I would hope that the county board would tell a corporate sponsor to ram it rather than let them dictate internal policy. RTE have treated Tyrone GAA and their players disgracefully in recent years.Tiernan McCann and Sean Cavanagh are just two players who were the result of despicable campaigns never mind the depths they sank to with Mickey Harte.

Well believe what what you want too believe..... the whole thing is rotten to core where does it all end, time will tell the way the 3 year contract was handed out and the way the sponsorship was handled is stinking and cannot end good..... Sean Cavanagh was not long runnng to RTE after he retired for a man who was insulted.... there is a dictatorship operating here people will catch on when its too late we are nearly there......

That's Sean Cavanagh's prerogative. Tyrone GAA are within their rights not to talk to RTE and given how RTE have treated  Tyrone GAA I cannot understand the clamour for us to engage with them not can I understand the clamour for corporate sponsors to dictate internal policy. I guess that tells you more about the agenda of those who express such wishes.

Sean Cavanagh Brian McGuigan Philip Jordan among others have all done work for RTE after Tyrone retirement that would tell me that that dont support the dictatorship that operates from within this County..... why not just tell McAleer and Rushe the situation will not be changing??? instead of doing what was done its wrong and stinks from the highest heavon....Mickey Harte managers our football team he should keep his nose out of everything else......

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: November 27, 2017, 09:34:17 AM »
So the situation is...McAleer and Rush deal up for renewal they meet County Executive and Club Tyrone,finance all sorted and they question is it possible a player can be made available to RTE when asked for an interview after the game,County executive relay information back to Mickey Harte to broker a deal,Harte then on his own bat sources a "new sponsor" offering more money than McAleer and Rushe they say they will match it, they dont get contacted again and new sponsor is announced, no interviews on the night and Club Tyrone send no representatives to the launch..... not the last we will hear of this i presume.... there is some stink around Garvaghy at the minute and eventually this will not end good as the cartel seem to tighten the grip at every opportunity....

I think we all know that's bullshit. If any case if a scenario like this did develop I would hope that the county board would tell a corporate sponsor to ram it rather than let them dictate internal policy. RTE have treated Tyrone GAA and their players disgracefully in recent years.Tiernan McCann and Sean Cavanagh are just two players who were the result of despicable campaigns never mind the depths they sank to with Mickey Harte.

Well believe what what you want too believe..... the whole thing is rotten to core where does it all end, time will tell the way the 3 year contract was handed out and the way the sponsorship was handled is stinking and cannot end good..... Sean Cavanagh was not long runnng to RTE after he retired for a man who was insulted.... there is a dictatorship operating here people will catch on when its too late we are nearly there......

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: November 27, 2017, 08:47:15 AM »
So the situation is...McAleer and Rush deal up for renewal they meet County Executive and Club Tyrone,finance all sorted and they question is it possible a player can be made available to RTE when asked for an interview after the game,County executive relay information back to Mickey Harte to broker a deal,Harte then on his own bat sources a "new sponsor" offering more money than McAleer and Rushe they say they will match it, they dont get contacted again and new sponsor is announced, no interviews on the night and Club Tyrone send no representatives to the launch..... not the last we will hear of this i presume.... there is some stink around Garvaghy at the minute and eventually this will not end good as the cartel seem to tighten the grip at every opportunity....   

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 24, 2017, 04:32:39 PM »
Can't agree on Clonoe, it's a huge catchment area - and recent development will only further that around there.

The recent development will NOT benefit us greatly as most newly developed estates in Clonoe contain families from Neighbouring clubs....there is one estate in Clonoe that 3 starting players for Coalisland live in..... Clonoe Coalisland and Derrylaughan all punch above their weight for the numbers and competition they have in their catchment area.....
How do we define this punching above weight for their catchment area? IS there a database anywhere showing numbers of families or potential playing population?
The diocese of Armagh website used to have a table with numbers of families and IIRC both the Clonoe and Ballyclog both had fairly large numbers compared to the likes of Carrickmore and Ballygawley.

Ballyclog and Clonoe Parish takes in Clonoe Derrylaughan Coalisland Brockagh Derrytresk Stewartstown and Brackaville

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 24, 2017, 03:46:14 PM »
Can't agree on Clonoe, it's a huge catchment area - and recent development will only further that around there.

The recent development will NOT benefit us greatly as most newly developed estates in Clonoe contain families from Neighbouring clubs....there is one estate in Clonoe that 3 starting players for Coalisland live in..... Clonoe Coalisland and Derrylaughan all punch above their weight for the numbers and competition they have in their catchment area.....

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 24, 2017, 01:14:04 PM »
Very Hard to balance club and County Football in all fairness.....Sean Cavanagh has been good for the Moy anytime i seen him play......do you all think Moy is a small club??? They have a decent size of a village and surrounding area imo....

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: November 21, 2017, 10:49:50 AM »
Plent of cheap McAleer and Rush gear floating about.....

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 15, 2017, 08:07:22 AM »
Ex Meath manager.

Dont think so thats him i could be wrong though...... Managed Clontibret to 2 senior championship and Cavan Gaels to 2 senior champioship wins as well as managed Monaghan Minors also Cullyhanna....

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