Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

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ThomasMullan

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 17, 2024, 11:46:03 PMWould you like to take issue with anything she said today?

Yes.

I think that the ancestors of the Ireland she thinks she represents would disown her as well as a 'Butcher Assad' apologist and she should take the name of Ireland out of her hypocrite mouth.

Her beloved peaceful Iran has also bombed Pakistan which she has failed to mention in her speech.

She is truly disgusting.

Jell 0 Biafra

You've made your point now several times, loud and clear: she's a hypocrite. 

Using an international stage, however, she has joined with South Africa, Namibia and others to call out what Israel is doing in Gaza, what America is doing, and what Germany has signed off on.   Not many are doing that. It is important.

Do you disagree with anything she said here about Israel/Gaza?

ThomasMullan

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 17, 2024, 11:54:29 PMYou've made your point now several times, loud and clear: she's a hypocrite. 

Using an international stage, however, she has joined with South Africa, Namibia and others to call out what Israel is doing in Gaza, what America is doing, and what Germany has signed off on.   Not many are doing that. It is important.

Do you disagree with anything she said here about Israel/Gaza?


Yes I think she is talking nonsense and likes the sound of her own voice.

I don't think Israel is losing on the ground. They are losing in the court of public opinion but that counts for not one jot. When the dust settles after this latest slaughter of Palestinians things will revert back to the status quo. Israel won't be a pariah state. They should be but they won't. They'll still be in Eurovision and attend all international events etc etc as if nothing has happened.

Also, she is a disgusting hypocrite.

Jell 0 Biafra

I guess we'll see about pariah state status.  You might be right, but I think South Africa's actions changes things.  There are also multiple articles/op eds in publications such as the New York Times and the New Yorker over here calling Israel out (in as many words) on war crimes and Genocide (and these publications would traditionally have been supportive of Israel).  Younger USians are far less likely to support Israel.  I think the tide is turning.

It is  important that those with public and international platforms continue to call out Israel and the US on this.


Jell 0 Biafra

I think you're wrong about public opinion mattering not one jot to Israel.  That they maintain powerful lobbies in the US and the UK (maybe elsewhere too?), that they have weaponized the definition of antisemitism to include criticism of Israel, and that they are fighting South Africa's charge of genocide, suggests they are keenly aware of the importance of public opinion.


ThomasMullan

Israel is committing genocide and people are calling on it to stop. That's it. When they do stop - things will return back to 'normal'. We've been here before, just not on this scale. But it will be all about the attacks on Oct 7th and how Israel got a bit carried away with itself.

You may be right about Irish public opinion and the next time ROI or Celtic are playing an Israeli side there will be plenty of Palestinian flags in the crowd but the match will be played.

Israeli spokespersons might be asked slightly tougher questions but they will just tell more lies. And then nothing.

 



PadraicHenryPearse

thomasmullen who should we listen to von leyen, Martin, Varadkar, McDonald, Biden, Trump, Zelensky, Putin, Boris, Lindsey Graham.. that's not a hypocrite.

ThomasMullan

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on January 18, 2024, 09:27:25 AMthomasmullen who should we listen to von leyen, Martin, Varadkar, McDonald, Biden, Trump, Zelensky, Putin, Boris, Lindsey Graham.. that's not a hypocrite.

Don't listen to any of them if you don't want to but just be sure to include Clare Daly on your list.

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 18, 2024, 09:37:47 AM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on January 18, 2024, 09:27:25 AMthomasmullen who should we listen to von leyen, Martin, Varadkar, McDonald, Biden, Trump, Zelensky, Putin, Boris, Lindsey Graham.. that's not a hypocrite.

Don't listen to any of them if you don't want to but just be sure to include Clare Daly on your list.

the question was who should we listen to?

Armagh18

Whatever about Claire Dalys other actions she is spot on there.

Look-Up!

Quote from: seafoid on January 18, 2024, 03:14:05 AM"Not one jot "
Sure
Piers Morgan
https://twitter.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1747295144729297379

Israel don't have a plan for after. Looks more like they're working on a final solution.

Itchy

Quote from: Look-Up! on January 18, 2024, 10:51:39 AM
Quote from: seafoid on January 18, 2024, 03:14:05 AM"Not one jot "
Sure
Piers Morgan
https://twitter.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1747295144729297379

Israel don't have a plan for after. Looks more like they're working on a final solution.

Don't agree, the plan is to rid Gaza of Palestinians. Get down to a manageable number. Plant it with Jews. Then start on west bank. You don't have to dig to had to find it as many zionists are already saying this publicly.

johnnycool

Quote from: Itchy on January 18, 2024, 10:53:45 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on January 18, 2024, 10:51:39 AM
Quote from: seafoid on January 18, 2024, 03:14:05 AM"Not one jot "
Sure
Piers Morgan
https://twitter.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1747295144729297379

Israel don't have a plan for after. Looks more like they're working on a final solution.

Don't agree, the plan is to rid Gaza of Palestinians. Get down to a manageable number. Plant it with Jews. Then start on west bank. You don't have to dig to had to find it as many zionists are already saying this publicly.

That is the plan, total ethnic cleansing of Gaza.
October 7th provided the smokescreen for it, but the Zionists were always planning for this to happen.