Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

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Itchy

Quote from: seafoid on December 12, 2023, 03:00:54 PMhttps://twitter.com/ClareDalyMEP/status/1734550767590125745

In fairness to her she speaks on my behalf in Europe not like the other weasels we have as MEPs like Walsh and Kelleher who a deafening by their silence

Armagh18

Quote from: Itchy on December 12, 2023, 03:27:50 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 12, 2023, 03:00:54 PMhttps://twitter.com/ClareDalyMEP/status/1734550767590125745

In fairness to her she speaks on my behalf in Europe not like the other weasels we have as MEPs like Walsh and Kelleher who a deafening by their silence
Fair play to her.

ThereAndBackAgain

Quote from: Armagh18 on December 12, 2023, 03:28:50 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 12, 2023, 03:27:50 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 12, 2023, 03:00:54 PMhttps://twitter.com/ClareDalyMEP/status/1734550767590125745

In fairness to her she speaks on my behalf in Europe not like the other weasels we have as MEPs like Walsh and Kelleher who a deafening by their silence
Fair play to her.

Clare Daly is very selective in the type of colonial oppression she is against. The very definition of a weasel herself.

Itchy

Quote from: ThereAndBackAgain on December 12, 2023, 03:36:32 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 12, 2023, 03:28:50 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 12, 2023, 03:27:50 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 12, 2023, 03:00:54 PMhttps://twitter.com/ClareDalyMEP/status/1734550767590125745

In fairness to her she speaks on my behalf in Europe not like the other weasels we have as MEPs like Walsh and Kelleher who a deafening by their silence
Fair play to her.

Clare Daly is very selective in the type of colonial oppression she is against. The very definition of a weasel herself.

I assume you are talking about Russia?

Well I wont claim to know a lot about Russia but I do know that everything I hear about Russia is from Western Media and I also know that Western Media has been lying through their teeth on behalf of US/Israel for a long time. So then I have to wonder how much of what I am hearing about Russia is true.

ThereAndBackAgain

Quote from: Itchy on December 12, 2023, 03:49:02 PM
Quote from: ThereAndBackAgain on December 12, 2023, 03:36:32 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 12, 2023, 03:28:50 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 12, 2023, 03:27:50 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 12, 2023, 03:00:54 PMhttps://twitter.com/ClareDalyMEP/status/1734550767590125745

In fairness to her she speaks on my behalf in Europe not like the other weasels we have as MEPs like Walsh and Kelleher who a deafening by their silence
Fair play to her.

Clare Daly is very selective in the type of colonial oppression she is against. The very definition of a weasel herself.

I assume you are talking about Russia?

Well I wont claim to know a lot about Russia but I do know that everything I hear about Russia is from Western Media and I also know that Western Media has been lying through their teeth on behalf of US/Israel for a long time. So then I have to wonder how much of what I am hearing about Russia is true.

And does your sceptical brain ever wonder if Russia tells lies? Here is a clue: Almost everything Russia says is a lie and if you think otherwise then you definitely don't know a whole lot about Russia.

ThereAndBackAgain

She is a disgrace on Russia, she is a disgrace on China. She is a national disgrace, her and that clown Wallace.

https://www.joe.ie/news/clare-daly-uyghir-genocide-772607

Jell 0 Biafra


ThereAndBackAgain

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on December 12, 2023, 04:37:02 PMShe's right about Israel.

She is but like a lot of the Irish anti-US crowd that only highlights her disgusting hypocrisy on the other issues. She is nothing but a hypocrite. Another George Galloway.

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: ThereAndBackAgain on December 12, 2023, 04:34:35 PMShe is a disgrace on Russia, she is a disgrace on China. She is a national disgrace, her and that clown Wallace.

https://www.joe.ie/news/clare-daly-uyghir-genocide-772607

how would you describe the US/UK/EU who all are standing by watching a genocide and have the power to actually stop it?

no sanctions on Israeli, no weapons for Palestines???? sanctions on Russia and weapons for Ukraine... (I don't generally like to compare conflicts)

Daly and Wallace have been consistent, you can see their public statement at the outset of the Russia/Ukraine conflict and what it called for.

we don't know how much Russia lies as EU/UK/US decided that freedom of press only extends to media they approve off.

Applesisapples

The hypocrisy of the US and. Britain when it comes to the Ukraine and Gaza sickens me. Biden is going to get tanked next year and Trump will turn the US into Hungary.

ThereAndBackAgain

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on December 12, 2023, 04:53:13 PM
Quote from: ThereAndBackAgain on December 12, 2023, 04:34:35 PMShe is a disgrace on Russia, she is a disgrace on China. She is a national disgrace, her and that clown Wallace.

https://www.joe.ie/news/clare-daly-uyghir-genocide-772607

how would you describe the US/UK/EU who all are standing by watching a genocide and have the power to actually stop it?

no sanctions on Israeli, no weapons for Palestines???? sanctions on Russia and weapons for Ukraine... (I don't generally like to compare conflicts)

Daly and Wallace have been consistent, you can see their public statement at the outset of the Russia/Ukraine conflict and what it called for.

we don't know how much Russia lies as EU/UK/US decided that freedom of press only extends to media they approve off.


The US/UK/EU are all hypocrites for supporting Ukraine against Russia's genocidal invasion and standing by watching Israel do the same thing to Palestine. That is obvious. Daly and her ilk are just the mirror image.

And as for her stance on Russia, she is just being disingenuous. When someone condemns Russia but then blames someone else for provoking the invasion (surprise surprise, the US) she is excusing Russia. Everything before 'but' is bullshit. Her calls for peace are very nice but mean f**k all to Putin. Her calls for no armaments to Ukraine if actually carried out would mean a greater slaughter in Ukraine because the Ukrainians are not going to give up but would just be slaughtered in greater numbers without the means to defend themselves.

BTW the US (and Russia) are signatories to an agreement to guarantee Ukraine's sovereignty. The help the US has given Ukraine so far doesn't even come close to fulfilling that pledge.

ThereAndBackAgain

Quote from: Applesisapples on December 12, 2023, 04:54:57 PMThe hypocrisy of the US and. Britain when it comes to the Ukraine and Gaza sickens me. Biden is going to get tanked next year and Trump will turn the US into Hungary.

It is sickening but that doesn't mean it is wrong to support Ukraine. They aren't mutually exclusive positions. The Grayzone Russian propaganda addled Irish brain seems to have a problem understanding this.

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: ThereAndBackAgain on December 12, 2023, 05:10:25 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on December 12, 2023, 04:54:57 PMThe hypocrisy of the US and. Britain when it comes to the Ukraine and Gaza sickens me. Biden is going to get tanked next year and Trump will turn the US into Hungary.

It is sickening but that doesn't mean it is wrong to support Ukraine. They aren't mutually exclusive positions. The Grayzone Russian propaganda addled Irish brain seems to have a problem understanding this.

some 'irish brains' cannot understand calls for Peace as calls for peace and see it as extremist or pro Russian. (which we should leave to another thread). these 'irish brains' say ignore US proven interference but dont believe anything anyone else says either.

the US and its intelligence service has a long long long history of interference etc. in countries all around the world.  If the US/UK/EU actually  wanted peace it would be achievable.

ThereAndBackAgain

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on December 12, 2023, 05:20:17 PM
Quote from: ThereAndBackAgain on December 12, 2023, 05:10:25 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on December 12, 2023, 04:54:57 PMThe hypocrisy of the US and. Britain when it comes to the Ukraine and Gaza sickens me. Biden is going to get tanked next year and Trump will turn the US into Hungary.

It is sickening but that doesn't mean it is wrong to support Ukraine. They aren't mutually exclusive positions. The Grayzone Russian propaganda addled Irish brain seems to have a problem understanding this.

some 'irish brains' cannot understand calls for Peace as calls for peace and see it as extremist or pro Russian. (which we should leave to another thread). these 'irish brains' say ignore US proven interference but dont believe anything anyone else says either.

the US and its intelligence service has a long long long history of interference etc. in countries all around the world.  If the US/UK/EU actually  wanted peace it would be achievable.

It's telling that Ms. Daly and her ilk (i.e. the Grayzone Russian propaganda addled Irish, e.g. PHP) always aim their calls for 'peace' at US/UK/EU rather than Russia, the country that actually invaded Ukraine. Russia started this war in 2014, upped the ante in 2022 and could end it tomorrow (if they wanted, which they don't).

BTW I'd so love to hear all about the 'proven US interference'...over on the other thread if you prefer.

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: ThereAndBackAgain on December 12, 2023, 06:01:37 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on December 12, 2023, 05:20:17 PM
Quote from: ThereAndBackAgain on December 12, 2023, 05:10:25 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on December 12, 2023, 04:54:57 PMThe hypocrisy of the US and. Britain when it comes to the Ukraine and Gaza sickens me. Biden is going to get tanked next year and Trump will turn the US into Hungary.

It is sickening but that doesn't mean it is wrong to support Ukraine. They aren't mutually exclusive positions. The Grayzone Russian propaganda addled Irish brain seems to have a problem understanding this.

some 'irish brains' cannot understand calls for Peace as calls for peace and see it as extremist or pro Russian. (which we should leave to another thread). these 'irish brains' say ignore US proven interference but dont believe anything anyone else says either.

the US and its intelligence service has a long long long history of interference etc. in countries all around the world.  If the US/UK/EU actually  wanted peace it would be achievable.

It's telling that Ms. Daly and her ilk (i.e. the Grayzone Russian propaganda addled Irish, e.g. PHP) always aim their calls for 'peace' at US/UK/EU rather than Russia, the country that actually invaded Ukraine. Russia started this war in 2014, upped the ante in 2022 and could end it tomorrow (if they wanted, which they don't).

BTW I'd so love to hear all about the 'proven US interference'...over on the other thread if you prefer.

Read Daly and Wallace statement, it was directed at Russia and the west.  Peace is achieved by all sides of conflict.

sorry,I am making up interference by the US thats why you have never heard of it