Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[Itchy]

If you are asking me what I believe or dont believe.

1- I don't believe there were mass rapes, why - because zero evidence has been provided
2- I don't believe babies were beheaded, why - because there has been zero evidence provided and the IDF had to admit they had no proof of such claims
3- I don't believe that a Hamas rocket accidentally hit a hospital, why - because IDF warned the hospital to evacuate as they were going to bomb it. The IDF then bombed other hospitals, schools and mosques (source UN). They then spent quite a bit of effort justifying targeting hospitals because apparently Hamas are in tunnels underneath. When they then went into the hospital the evidence the provided was such BS that even the BBC pulled them on it.
4- I don't believe all 1200 people killed on 7th Oct were by Hamas, why - multiple witnesses from Israel are now on the record saying they were held captive only for the IDF to shell them, shoot them and bomb them from the sky.
5- I dont believe Hamas drugged the hostages so that they were really happy when they let them go, why - cos it is f**king ridiculous


I would also like to save some of you the hassle of asking me by saying I do not condemn Hamas for attacking Israel, not for a second.

[Milltown Row2]

And thats before you even start to consider the fact that Israel likely either allowed or encouraged the 7th of October attack.

Thats up there with the fake moon landings

You think one of the best military defence systems had no idea about a lock of farmers with parachutes and homemade rockets? Really?

I'm not sure on the logic of killing x amount of your own to get justification on doing what they have been doing anyways for about 75 years for it to be revealed at some point..

But sure you seem the type to enjoy a conspiracy

The Israelis were complacent. They were taken by surprise.

Most Israelis believe that Hamas beheaded babies.

There have been reports that there was intel a year ago about planned attacks but no dates available to when it was going to happen if ever.

Intel and knowledge of attacks is one thing, knowing and stopping is another

It could be that the attacks were known, but when it was going to be carried out is the thing.

I'm trying to find a closer to home scenario that one grouping allowed 1400 people to die, so that they get their 'homeland' back and feel that the ends justify the means

[SHEEDY]

If you are asking me what I believe or dont believe.

1- I don't believe there were mass rapes, why - because zero evidence has been provided
2- I don't believe babies were beheaded, why - because there has been zero evidence provided and the IDF had to admit they had no proof of such claims
3- I don't believe that a Hamas rocket accidentally hit a hospital, why - because IDF warned the hospital to evacuate as they were going to bomb it. The IDF then bombed other hospitals, schools and mosques (source UN). They then spent quite a bit of effort justifying targeting hospitals because apparently Hamas are in tunnels underneath. When they then went into the hospital the evidence the provided was such BS that even the BBC pulled them on it.
4- I don't believe all 1200 people killed on 7th Oct were by Hamas, why - multiple witnesses from Israel are now on the record saying they were held captive only for the IDF to shell them, shoot them and bomb them from the sky.


I would also like to save some of you the hassle of asking me by saying I do not condemn Hamas for attacking Israel, not for a second.

100%, this is exactly as i would see it.

[AustinPowers]

And thats before you even start to consider the fact that Israel likely either allowed or encouraged the 7th of October attack.

Thats up there with the fake moon landings

You think one of the best military defence systems had no idea about a lock of farmers with parachutes and homemade rockets? Really?

I'm not sure on the logic of killing x amount of your own to get justification on doing what they have been doing anyways for about 75 years for it to be revealed at some point..

But sure you seem the type to enjoy a conspiracy

The Israelis were complacent. They were taken by surprise.

Most Israelis believe that Hamas beheaded babies.

There have been reports that there was intel a year ago about planned attacks but no dates available to when it was going to happen if ever.

Intel and knowledge of attacks is one thing, knowing and stopping is another

It could be that the attacks were known, but when it was going to be carried out is the thing.

I'm trying to find a closer to home scenario that one grouping allowed 1400 people to die, so that they get their 'homeland' back and feel that the ends justify the means

Do you mean .... would  Israel  stand back/ turn the other way (call it what you will) , and allow their own citizens to be attacked/killed/taken hostage ,  which would then give Israel  justification  to obliterate the  Palestinians?

Yes. 100% they would.

And there's more than  Israel that would  Resort to that.

[tonto1888]

If you are asking me what I believe or dont believe.

1- I don't believe there were mass rapes, why - because zero evidence has been provided
2- I don't believe babies were beheaded, why - because there has been zero evidence provided and the IDF had to admit they had no proof of such claims
3- I don't believe that a Hamas rocket accidentally hit a hospital, why - because IDF warned the hospital to evacuate as they were going to bomb it. The IDF then bombed other hospitals, schools and mosques (source UN). They then spent quite a bit of effort justifying targeting hospitals because apparently Hamas are in tunnels underneath. When they then went into the hospital the evidence the provided was such BS that even the BBC pulled them on it.
4- I don't believe all 1200 people killed on 7th Oct were by Hamas, why - multiple witnesses from Israel are now on the record saying they were held captive only for the IDF to shell them, shoot them and bomb them from the sky.
5- I dont believe Hamas drugged the hostages so that they were really happy when they let them go, why - cos it is f**king ridiculous


I would also like to save some of you the hassle of asking me by saying I do not condemn Hamas for attacking Israel, not for a second.

if you have been paying attention  - not you personally, the overall you - you will notice the narrative has changed. Where it used ot be reported that Hamas killed 1200 people on 7th October they are now saying 1200 were killed during the Hamas attacks on 7th Oct. A slight difference but it tells a story

[Saffrongael]

As I said earlier about evidence I hope a family member never reports a rape to you without video footage (and I believe it's out there if you are that way inclined & know where to look)

[JoG2]

As I said earlier about evidence I hope a family member never reports a rape to you without video footage (and I believe it's out there if you are that way inclined & know where to look)

Clear and transparent, eh?

[imtommygunn]

If you are asking me what I believe or dont believe.

1- I don't believe there were mass rapes, why - because zero evidence has been provided
2- I don't believe babies were beheaded, why - because there has been zero evidence provided and the IDF had to admit they had no proof of such claims
3- I don't believe that a Hamas rocket accidentally hit a hospital, why - because IDF warned the hospital to evacuate as they were going to bomb it. The IDF then bombed other hospitals, schools and mosques (source UN). They then spent quite a bit of effort justifying targeting hospitals because apparently Hamas are in tunnels underneath. When they then went into the hospital the evidence the provided was such BS that even the BBC pulled them on it.
4- I don't believe all 1200 people killed on 7th Oct were by Hamas, why - multiple witnesses from Israel are now on the record saying they were held captive only for the IDF to shell them, shoot them and bomb them from the sky.
5- I dont believe Hamas drugged the hostages so that they were really happy when they let them go, why - cos it is f**king ridiculous


I would also like to save some of you the hassle of asking me by saying I do not condemn Hamas for attacking Israel, not for a second.

Also on top of all the hospital stuff after denying it Netanyahu then went on to put out a tweet showing a video of some elaborate hamas base under the hospital as if that it was then justifiable. All over the place on it but if you're answerable to no one which they appear to be then you can say what you like.

[seafoid]

The Israeli Army is overrated. They were overwhelmed on 7 Oct abd started killing their own people.

Netanyahu is all out in Gaza to deflect attention from his failure.

Israel cannot achieve security via apartheid.

[Itchy]

As I said earlier about evidence I hope a family member never reports a rape to you without video footage (and I believe it's out there if you are that way inclined & know where to look)

Saffron - I hope no ones family member ever gets raped. However I hope you will agree I didnt at any point say I needed video evidence of rape. There are other types of evidence - witness, medical etc. None of this has been provided and we all know that if such evidence existed Israel would have it on the front page of every newspaper. The story is bullshit.

[Puckoon]

As I said earlier about evidence I hope a family member never reports a rape to you without video footage (and I believe it's out there if you are that way inclined & know where to look)

Saffron - I hope no ones family member ever gets raped. However I hope you will agree I didnt at any point say I needed video evidence of rape. There are other types of evidence - witness, medical etc. None of this has been provided and we all know that if such evidence existed Israel would have it on the front page of every newspaper. The story is bullshit.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67629181

Grim reading, that one would hope isn't fabricated by an appropriate news agency. You seem very very secure in your belief, which is impressive in such a complicated world.

[bennydorano]

One of the first widely published images of the Hamas attack was of a brutalised dead woman partially clothed on the back of a truck being paraded about like a trophy. The misogynistic, atrocity committing terrorists aren't rapists tho, they draw the line there.

[Milltown Row2]

And thats before you even start to consider the fact that Israel likely either allowed or encouraged the 7th of October attack.

Thats up there with the fake moon landings

You think one of the best military defence systems had no idea about a lock of farmers with parachutes and homemade rockets? Really?

I'm not sure on the logic of killing x amount of your own to get justification on doing what they have been doing anyways for about 75 years for it to be revealed at some point..

But sure you seem the type to enjoy a conspiracy

The Israelis were complacent. They were taken by surprise.

Most Israelis believe that Hamas beheaded babies.

There have been reports that there was intel a year ago about planned attacks but no dates available to when it was going to happen if ever.

Intel and knowledge of attacks is one thing, knowing and stopping is another

It could be that the attacks were known, but when it was going to be carried out is the thing.

I'm trying to find a closer to home scenario that one grouping allowed 1400 people to die, so that they get their 'homeland' back and feel that the ends justify the means

Do you mean .... would  Israel  stand back/ turn the other way (call it what you will) , and allow their own citizens to be attacked/killed/taken hostage ,  which would then give Israel  justification  to obliterate the  Palestinians?

Yes. 100% they would.

And there's more than  Israel that would  Resort to that.

They've been doing it, without any justification, so f**k it, let's murder hundreds of our own, allow Hamas to kill over hundreds more, allow over 200 hostages and put families through all that, to continue what we've already been doing?

I'd question plenty of things but, it, on the face of it, is bat shit crazy.

And should it be true, well, there would and should be an international backlash from all those that, and continue to fuel it.

[bennydorano]

As I said earlier about evidence I hope a family member never reports a rape to you without video footage (and I believe it's out there if you are that way inclined & know where to look)

Saffron - I hope no ones family member ever gets raped. However I hope you will agree I didnt at any point say I needed video evidence of rape. There are other types of evidence - witness, medical etc. None of this has been provided and we all know that if such evidence existed Israel would have it on the front page of every newspaper. The story is bullshit.

Probably were too busy burying bodies, trying to free hostages, stabilise their country, plan an invasion to worry about producing evidence of rape to satisfy social media.

[Armagh18]

As I said earlier about evidence I hope a family member never reports a rape to you without video footage (and I believe it's out there if you are that way inclined & know where to look)

Saffron - I hope no ones family member ever gets raped. However I hope you will agree I didnt at any point say I needed video evidence of rape. There are other types of evidence - witness, medical etc. None of this has been provided and we all know that if such evidence existed Israel would have it on the front page of every newspaper. The story is bullshit.

Probably were too busy burying bodies, trying to free hostages, stabilise their country, plan an invasion to worry about producing evidence of rape to satisfy social media.

Zionist?