Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[JoG2]

Watching the limited scenes from Gaza tonight is genuinely heartbreaking

They are basically carpet bombing the place

It looks like an artist's illustration of hell

To think there were stupid bastards arguing a few days ago that the Israelis didn't bomb the hospital

The hospital is nothing to tonight's barrage

Surely at some point in the next few hours some of the main western leaders HAS to shout stop

   exactly what I am seeing too. It is absolutely brutal and how anyone can try and defend this is beyond me. There has to be intervention- has to be.

You'd think Tommy... This is now surreal viewing. Germany saying no to the 'Humanitarian pause' as the word pause sounded too permanent!

Beyond words

[Milltown Row2]

Seafoid you stopped at 800 and then implied 600 were killed by friendly fire..

No one is disputing friendly fire, it happens and has happened on both sides, but figures of 600?

That's a stretch, no?

I said they did not kill 1400 and we don't know about the last 600.
It is all under military censorship now anyway. It's wrong to say that they killed 1400 people.

It's also wrong to assume that the Israelis killed 600 of their own..

This war, wouldn't call it a war now, it's madness but Israel won't care

The area is fucked, watched a documentary recently on Netflix, Of  fathers and sons, just be thankful you live were you live and your kids can grow up in a safe environment

[JoG2]

Seafoid you stopped at 800 and then implied 600 were killed by friendly fire..

No one is disputing friendly fire, it happens and has happened on both sides, but figures of 600?

That's a stretch, no?

I said they did not kill 1400 and we don't know about the last 600.
It is all under military censorship now anyway. It's wrong to say that they killed 1400 people.

It's also wrong to assume that the Israelis killed 600 of their own..

This war, wouldn't call it a war now, it's madness but Israel won't care

The area is fucked, watched a documentary recently on Netflix, Of  fathers and sons, just be thankful you live were you live and your kids can grow up in a safe environment

Indeed, but you'd like to think if you were being oppressed in the way the Palestinian people have that the world's super powers would help, and not only endorse the oppressor but fund the bastards to the hilt.

[bennydorano]

Some of the stuff posted on this thread is embarrassing. I doubt any person posting it could stand in a room of people with slightly differing moderate views and justify any of it - without being laughed out of the room.

[Milltown Row2]

Seafoid you stopped at 800 and then implied 600 were killed by friendly fire..

No one is disputing friendly fire, it happens and has happened on both sides, but figures of 600?

That's a stretch, no?

I said they did not kill 1400 and we don't know about the last 600.
It is all under military censorship now anyway. It's wrong to say that they killed 1400 people.

It's also wrong to assume that the Israelis killed 600 of their own..

This war, wouldn't call it a war now, it's madness but Israel won't care

The area is fucked, watched a documentary recently on Netflix, Of  fathers and sons, just be thankful you live were you live and your kids can grow up in a safe environment

Indeed, but you'd like to think if you were being oppressed in the way the Palestinian people have that the world's super powers would help, and not only endorse the oppressor but fund the bastards to the hilt.

Britain America and the south turned a blind eye to here for many years, nothing surprises me.

Of course the scale of destruction murder and atrocities are poles apart, but governments suit themselves and whatever policies that influence their voters.

Hopefully the rallies all over the uk and even here in Belfast again will sway those in power to at least review their stance

[johnnycool]

Seafoid you stopped at 800 and then implied 600 were killed by friendly fire..

No one is disputing friendly fire, it happens and has happened on both sides, but figures of 600?

That's a stretch, no?

I said they did not kill 1400 and we don't know about the last 600.
It is all under military censorship now anyway. It's wrong to say that they killed 1400 people.

It's also wrong to assume that the Israelis killed 600 of their own..

This war, wouldn't call it a war now, it's madness but Israel won't care

The area is fucked, watched a documentary recently on Netflix, Of  fathers and sons, just be thankful you live were you live and your kids can grow up in a safe environment

Indeed, but you'd like to think if you were being oppressed in the way the Palestinian people have that the world's super powers would help, and not only endorse the oppressor but fund the bastards to the hilt.

Britain America and the south turned a blind eye to here for many years, nothing surprises me.

Of course the scale of destruction murder and atrocities are poles apart, but governments suit themselves and whatever policies that influence their voters.

Hopefully the rallies all over the uk and even here in Belfast again will sway those in power to at least review their stance

Only the lobbyists who are lining their pockets will have any sway on these murderous hoors.

Democracy is only a smoke screen in the UK and the US.

Corbyn was proof of that.

[gallsman]

The Grayzone ffs! Are f**king serious?!

Gript. The Grayzone. What next for the luminaries of this board to show how much they're not hoodwinked by the corrupt, bought and paid for by (insert figure opposed to your politics here) mainstream media. f**king Infowars?!

So you ignore it because its the grayzone, you ignore the actual Israelis and what they actually said (not their govt)...  there is quotes, there are interviews. but it's the grayzone and we are all idiots.. 

Yes, there are quotes from colonels E and A. Forgive me for not taking them at face value. Have a word with yourself ffs.

[seafoid]

Seafoid you stopped at 800 and then implied 600 were killed by friendly fire..

No one is disputing friendly fire, it happens and has happened on both sides, but figures of 600?

That's a stretch, no?

I said they did not kill 1400 and we don't know about the last 600.
It is all under military censorship now anyway. It's wrong to say that they killed 1400 people.

It's also wrong to assume that the Israelis killed 600 of their own..

This war, wouldn't call it a war now, it's madness but Israel won't care

The area is fucked, watched a documentary recently on Netflix, Of  fathers and sons, just be thankful you live were you live and your kids can grow up in a safe environment

Indeed, but you'd like to think if you were being oppressed in the way the Palestinian people have that the world's super powers would help, and not only endorse the oppressor but fund the bastards to the hilt.

The Stop the war coalition in 2003 was very strong but nothing stopped the war. Only some sort of revulsion that turns public opinion and blindsides media and politicians can drive a ceasefire.  Ireland is a real outlier. The UK, Germany, The US, Italy , France are all fully behind Israel. History really matters at times like now. Even in the North, Unionists are more likely to support Israel while Nationalists are more likely to support Palestinians.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

The Grayzone ffs! Are f**king serious?!

Gript. The Grayzone. What next for the luminaries of this board to show how much they're not hoodwinked by the corrupt, bought and paid for by (insert figure opposed to your politics here) mainstream media. f**king Infowars?!

So you ignore it because its the grayzone, you ignore the actual Israelis and what they actually said (not their govt)...  there is quotes, there are interviews. but it's the grayzone and we are all idiots.. 

Yes, there are quotes from colonels E and A. Forgive me for not taking them at face value. Have a word with yourself ffs.

The Grayzone ffs! Are f**king serious?!

Gript. The Grayzone. What next for the luminaries of this board to show how much they're not hoodwinked by the corrupt, bought and paid for by (insert figure opposed to your politics here) mainstream media. f**king Infowars?!

So you ignore it because its the grayzone, you ignore the actual Israelis and what they actually said (not their govt)...  there is quotes, there are interviews. but it's the grayzone and we are all idiots.. 

Yes, there are quotes from colonels E and A. Forgive me for not taking them at face value. Have a word with yourself ffs.

Yasmin Porat -Kibbutz Be'eri resident - look what she said.

Commander of the Gaza Division, Brig. Gen. Avi Rosenfeld quoted in haaretz.

there are other reports In. Haaretz and other Israeli media the that refer to tank shelling etc. from different Israeli sources.  why would Israeli media using Israeli sources lie about bombing and killing their own people.

I am not the one defending Israel as its commits a genocide so I am not the one that needing a word.

[Eire90]

Did people think joe biden was some friend of the far left just because he was trumps opponent in 2020

[Jell 0 Biafra]

No. Literally nobody thought that.

[gallsman]

The Grayzone ffs! Are f**king serious?!

Gript. The Grayzone. What next for the luminaries of this board to show how much they're not hoodwinked by the corrupt, bought and paid for by (insert figure opposed to your politics here) mainstream media. f**king Infowars?!

So you ignore it because its the grayzone, you ignore the actual Israelis and what they actually said (not their govt)...  there is quotes, there are interviews. but it's the grayzone and we are all idiots.. 

Yes, there are quotes from colonels E and A. Forgive me for not taking them at face value. Have a word with yourself ffs.

The Grayzone ffs! Are f**king serious?!

Gript. The Grayzone. What next for the luminaries of this board to show how much they're not hoodwinked by the corrupt, bought and paid for by (insert figure opposed to your politics here) mainstream media. f**king Infowars?!

So you ignore it because its the grayzone, you ignore the actual Israelis and what they actually said (not their govt)...  there is quotes, there are interviews. but it's the grayzone and we are all idiots.. 

Yes, there are quotes from colonels E and A. Forgive me for not taking them at face value. Have a word with yourself ffs.

Yasmin Porat -Kibbutz Be'eri resident - look what she said.

Commander of the Gaza Division, Brig. Gen. Avi Rosenfeld quoted in haaretz.

there are other reports In. Haaretz and other Israeli media the that refer to tank shelling etc. from different Israeli sources.  why would Israeli media using Israeli sources lie about bombing and killing their own people.

I am not the one defending Israel as its commits a genocide so I am not the one that needing a word.

Go on, tell me what Yasmin Porat said. You know there's an actual interview with her? It's longer than a tiktok video, though not by much, so I doubt whether you'll be able to pay attention to actually take on board what she says.

Same for Rosenfeld, why don't you feel free to post the slightest thing you think corroborates what you and your mate Goebbels up above are trying to argue here.


As for "defending Israel as it commits a genocide" a) nowhere have I done anything of the sort but b) I'm not fully sure you can actually read so I should probably cut you some slack.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

The Grayzone ffs! Are f**king serious?!

Gript. The Grayzone. What next for the luminaries of this board to show how much they're not hoodwinked by the corrupt, bought and paid for by (insert figure opposed to your politics here) mainstream media. f**king Infowars?!

So you ignore it because its the grayzone, you ignore the actual Israelis and what they actually said (not their govt)...  there is quotes, there are interviews. but it's the grayzone and we are all idiots.. 

Yes, there are quotes from colonels E and A. Forgive me for not taking them at face value. Have a word with yourself ffs.

The Grayzone ffs! Are f**king serious?!

Gript. The Grayzone. What next for the luminaries of this board to show how much they're not hoodwinked by the corrupt, bought and paid for by (insert figure opposed to your politics here) mainstream media. f**king Infowars?!

So you ignore it because its the grayzone, you ignore the actual Israelis and what they actually said (not their govt)...  there is quotes, there are interviews. but it's the grayzone and we are all idiots.. 

Yes, there are quotes from colonels E and A. Forgive me for not taking them at face value. Have a word with yourself ffs.

Yasmin Porat -Kibbutz Be'eri resident - look what she said.

Commander of the Gaza Division, Brig. Gen. Avi Rosenfeld quoted in haaretz.

there are other reports In. Haaretz and other Israeli media the that refer to tank shelling etc. from different Israeli sources.  why would Israeli media using Israeli sources lie about bombing and killing their own people.

I am not the one defending Israel as its commits a genocide so I am not the one that needing a word.

Go on, tell me what Yasmin Porat said. You know there's an actual interview with her? It's longer than a tiktok video, though not by much, so I doubt whether you'll be able to pay attention to actually take on board what she says.

Same for Rosenfeld, why don't you feel free to post the slightest thing you think corroborates what you and your mate Goebbels up above are trying to argue here.


As for "defending Israel as it commits a genocide" a) nowhere have I done anything of the sort but b) I'm not fully sure you can actually read so I should probably cut you some slack.

your silence and attempted distraction  is support you ignoramus. Your have more in common with goebbels than you think..

as you said there is an interview, listen to it, these are Israeli sources reporting to Israeli media and you are off on some conspiracy shite about mainstream media.. and it's lies... despite there being a history of Israel killing their own, the hannibal directive.

sure why not throw out a few insults when your arguments are useless.

[gallsman]

Lmao, the absolute state of that. My "silence"?! What the f**k are you talking about?

Do you not understand that you lose all credibility and undermine your own position when spouting utter garbage? You think posting/supporting baseless innuendo (at best) such as "we don't really know about the music festival" helps the Palestinian cause?!

You've already acknowledged that you can do the square root of f**k all other than say "dammi falastini" to whoever will listen, so where on earth do you get your sense of moral superiority from?!

[PadraicHenryPearse]

Lmao, the absolute state of that. My "silence"?! What the f**k are you talking about?

Do you not understand that you lose all credibility and undermine your own position when spouting utter garbage? You think posting/supporting baseless innuendo (at best) such as "we don't really know about the music festival" helps the Palestinian cause?!

You've already acknowledged that you can do the square root of f**k all other than say "dammi falastini" to whoever will listen, so where on earth do you get your sense of moral superiority from?!

i have looked back at your posts on this thread and not once have you called out Israeli genocide. all you have done is take pops at posters who are calling out the genocide. At a bare minimum you'd expect a person with any level of decency to comment on the ongoing genocide and indiscriminate murder of over 7000 people. you have not, you are silent.

insulting anyone that shares on opinion or cares about the people who are being murdered.

are you the gobshite who said words don't matter!!! when dehumanising is key to genocide and history has proved that time and Time again and you have the gall to call my claims baseless and tell me I cannot read.

I am fully aware of the limitations of what I can do to stop a genocide in the middle east, that doesn't mean I will stay silent. (and this website isn't the only place I discuss this)

to be honest those who call out genocide and apartheid are morally superior to those who see it, ignore it, support it or partake in it.

I also never said we don't really know what happened at the music festival.