Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

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Itchy

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2023, 11:30:56 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 07, 2023, 11:27:39 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 07, 2023, 10:31:42 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2023, 10:28:06 PMGermanys Holocaust guilt going abit too far if thats true ffs
holocaust guilt?? wtf are you on about?
Maybe you should acquaint yourself more with the spreading Holocaust denial in Germany and their far right Kremlin supported movements.

Germany is totally infected with holocaust guilt. They are unable to criticise Israel. The irony is they are now enabling a new holocaust. Germany always seem to be on the wrong side of history.

The uk and the Americans don't seem to be covering themselves in glory..



No they dont. UK are irrelevant. The yanks are a disgrace and have lost all credibility. The yanks are not the good guys they were in WW2, they are the oppressors of the world and a pretend democracy.

Jell 0 Biafra

Quote from: Main Street on December 07, 2023, 10:42:42 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2023, 10:34:32 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 07, 2023, 10:31:42 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2023, 10:28:06 PMGermanys Holocaust guilt going abit too far if thats true ffs
holocaust guilt?? wtf are you on about?
Maybe you should acquaint yourself more with the spreading Holocaust denial in Germany and their far right Kremlin supported movements.
Now they're supporting a new holocaust in Palestine....
Supporting Israel's right to exist as is required  for German citizenship does not equal a support for  Israel's horrible war against the general Palestinian population.  Just as support for the Palestinian civil rights does not mean support for the scúm of resistance, Hamas.

If true, it's frankly bizarre.  To be a citizen of this country you have to pledge to the right of a totally different country to exist.  Does any other country have something comparable?

tonto1888

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on December 08, 2023, 01:27:10 AM
Quote from: Main Street on December 07, 2023, 10:42:42 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2023, 10:34:32 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 07, 2023, 10:31:42 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2023, 10:28:06 PMGermanys Holocaust guilt going abit too far if thats true ffs
holocaust guilt?? wtf are you on about?
Maybe you should acquaint yourself more with the spreading Holocaust denial in Germany and their far right Kremlin supported movements.
Now they're supporting a new holocaust in Palestine....
Supporting Israel's right to exist as is required  for German citizenship does not equal a support for  Israel's horrible war against the general Palestinian population.  Just as support for the Palestinian civil rights does not mean support for the scúm of resistance, Hamas.

If true, it's frankly bizarre.  To be a citizen of this country you have to pledge to the right of a totally different country to exist.  Does any other country have something comparable?

I agree with this. I think its daft to make that a prerequisite of becoming a German citizen though I also agree with MS when says supporting their right to exist does not mean you agree with that theyre doing to Palestine

theskull1

It clearer to me now this past few years, there's another layer to how western global politics functions. The voting public and their opinions are of no interest to the elites. It's totally gamed.
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Armagh18

Quote from: theskull1 on December 08, 2023, 10:40:32 AMIt clearer to me now this past few years, there's another layer to how western global politics functions. The voting public and their opinions are of no interest to the elites. It's totally gamed.
Oh that was never in doubt was it?

AustinPowers

Quote from: theskull1 on December 08, 2023, 10:40:32 AMIt clearer to me now this past few years, there's another layer to how western global politics functions. The voting public and their opinions are of no interest to the elites. It's totally gamed.

As the old  saying goes: "if voting changed  anything, they'd make it illegal "

imtommygunn

It's always been the case but it just appears less f**ks are given now so it's considerably more apparent.

bennydorano

Democracy is a feel good illusion, still the best option.


seafoid

In a lot of countries newspapers are owned by billionaires who will always support Israel.

Itchy


Hound

Quote from: Itchy on December 07, 2023, 11:22:00 PMHamas are an army of orphans. It's a false equivalence to compare them to Israel, the country that created them. Israel is much worse by a factor of 1000. I dare say main street, if you were born in Gaza you'd join yourself.


And no doubt the Hamas leaders housed in luxury in Qatar knew when ordering the Oct 7 attacks that there would be thousands more orphans when the inevitable and abhorrent Israeli massacre occurred.

Hamas aren't anti-semites, they don't discriminate, they want to end to all non-Muslim life in Israel/Palestine. But they could care less about the Palestinian people who are martyred in the meantime.

At this stage the people in Palestine both in Gaza and the West Bank are really all that matters. Yet they have no voice. Nobody (of relevance) shouting stop or bringing help. 

Itchy

Quote from: Hound on December 08, 2023, 03:22:15 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 07, 2023, 11:22:00 PMHamas are an army of orphans. It's a false equivalence to compare them to Israel, the country that created them. Israel is much worse by a factor of 1000. I dare say main street, if you were born in Gaza you'd join yourself.


And no doubt the Hamas leaders housed in luxury in Qatar knew when ordering the Oct 7 attacks that there would be thousands more orphans when the inevitable and abhorrent Israeli massacre occurred.

Hamas aren't anti-semites, they don't discriminate, they want to end to all non-Muslim life in Israel/Palestine. But they could care less about the Palestinian people who are martyred in the meantime.

At this stage the people in Palestine both in Gaza and the West Bank are really all that matters. Yet they have no voice. Nobody (of relevance) shouting stop or bringing help. 

The people in Gaza voted for Hamas lad. In the west bank they didn't. They get murdered in west bank too, who caused that Hamas was it?

Hamas would settle for a 2 state solution, to 67 borders. Same as UN. You are watching too much American tv. If you want peace and a settlement you'll have to deal with Hamas

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Hound on December 08, 2023, 03:22:15 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 07, 2023, 11:22:00 PMHamas are an army of orphans. It's a false equivalence to compare them to Israel, the country that created them. Israel is much worse by a factor of 1000. I dare say main street, if you were born in Gaza you'd join yourself.


And no doubt the Hamas leaders housed in luxury in Qatar knew when ordering the Oct 7 attacks that there would be thousands more orphans when the inevitable and abhorrent Israeli massacre occurred.

Hamas aren't anti-semites, they don't discriminate, they want to end to all non-Muslim life in Israel/Palestine. But they could care less about the Palestinian people who are martyred in the meantime.

At this stage the people in Palestine both in Gaza and the West Bank are really all that matters. Yet they have no voice. Nobody (of relevance) shouting stop or bringing help. 

I disagree with most of that incorrect opinion in the 1st and 2nd paragraph.

Eire90