Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

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seafoid

Quote from: Sportacus on November 16, 2023, 10:15:20 PMJeremy Bowen 10 o'clock news, "Israel's evidence at the Al Shifa hospital is frankly not very convincing". 
They wanted to damage the hospital.  End of.

LeoMc

Quote from: seafoid on November 17, 2023, 08:56:21 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 16, 2023, 10:15:20 PMJeremy Bowen 10 o'clock news, "Israel's evidence at the Al Shifa hospital is frankly not very convincing". 
They wanted to damage the hospital.  End of.

I see Bibi has admitted they were unsuccessful in their attempts to minimise Palestinian casualties, but that was Hamas fault....

LeoMc

Quote from: Itchy on November 17, 2023, 08:06:22 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 16, 2023, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on November 16, 2023, 10:15:20 PMJeremy Bowen 10 o'clock news, "Israel's evidence at the Al Shifa hospital is frankly not very convincing". 
It's ridiculous that they can get away with "we will reveal evidence in a few days or weeks". They'll produce some footage of a tunnel complex nowhere near the hospital and of course the media will lap it up.

They already have. One "tunnel" was an elevator shaft that anyone with half a brain would recognise. The other tunnel was actually a tunnel from Sweden. Then a list of hostages names in the basement was actually a calendar with the days of the week written on it.

Its bizarre stuff and its right out of the Trump book of lies. You can tell any lie, no matter how ridiculous, because people with a bias to your position will believe it anyway. Its a scary new concept in the war of propaganda.
What about the gums found behind the MRI machine, that apparently were not there on the first walk through.

1. The "finder" just went up to it and opened it, no attempt to check if it was booby trapped.
2. Hidden behind a Magnetic Resonance Imaging machine! I thought you couldn't have anything metal in the same room.

burdizzo

Quote from: Main Street on November 16, 2023, 10:10:41 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on November 16, 2023, 07:26:33 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on November 16, 2023, 07:15:47 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 16, 2023, 02:54:08 PMSee Micheál Martin off on a tour PR Stunt with the Israeli Ambassador the rat

They have him dancing to their tune to get the Irish passport holders out

Why do we want them?
who are the "we"? 

You and me, baby - you and me.

seafoid

Bowen: Ceasefire demands will grow without proof of Hamas HQ at Al-Shifa

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67453105

Jell 0 Biafra

Mark Regev, Netanyahu spokesman on TV denying Israel have killed any children.  If that doesn't get people to stop believing anything this regime says, I don't know what will.

seafoid

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on November 17, 2023, 04:57:01 PMMark Regev, Netanyahu spokesman on TV denying Israel have killed any children.  If that doesn't get people to stop believing anything this regime says, I don't know what will.
He is a Jewish Goebbels

Rossfan

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on November 17, 2023, 04:57:01 PMMark Regev, Netanyahu spokesman on TV denying Israel have killed any children.  If that doesn't get people to stop believing anything this regime says, I don't know what will.

The war criminals are absolutely shameless.
And Joe Biden facilitated it all.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Rossfan on November 17, 2023, 05:31:42 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on November 17, 2023, 04:57:01 PMMark Regev, Netanyahu spokesman on TV denying Israel have killed any children.  If that doesn't get people to stop believing anything this regime says, I don't know what will.

The war criminals are absolutely shameless.
And Joe Biden facilitated it all.

Regev also advised why they revised down the number of casualties from 1400 to 1200, because they thought they were Israeli but they were actually Hamas.

The reason they couldn't identify them was they were badly burned.

So either  Israel killed them knowing they were Hamas and therefore you'd think wouldn't have counted them as Israeli casualities or Israel just killed indiscriminately in the Kibbutz and maybe elsewhere and had no idea if they were Hamas or Israeli.

seafoid

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on November 17, 2023, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 17, 2023, 05:31:42 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on November 17, 2023, 04:57:01 PMMark Regev, Netanyahu spokesman on TV denying Israel have killed any children.  If that doesn't get people to stop believing anything this regime says, I don't know what will.
It is lower than 1200. They killed 112 Israelis in Kibbutz Be'eri and an unknown number fleeing from the festival.

The war criminals are absolutely shameless.
And Joe Biden facilitated it all.

Regev also advised why they revised down the number of casualties from 1400 to 1200, because they thought they were Israeli but they were actually Hamas.

The reason they couldn't identify them was they were badly burned.

So either  Israel killed them knowing they were Hamas and therefore you'd think wouldn't have counted them as Israeli casualities or Israel just killed indiscriminately in the Kibbutz and maybe elsewhere and had no idea if they were Hamas or Israeli.

Itchy

#1690
Anyone still a believer in anything Israel says. From no less than the BBC...

Even the videos produced so far have raised questions under scrutiny. A BBC analysis found the footage of an IDF spokesperson showing the apparent discovery of a bag containing a gun behind an MRI scanning machine, had been taped hours before the arrival of the journalists to whom he was supposedly showing it.


In a video shown later, the number of guns in the bag had doubled. The IDF claimed its video of what it found at the hospital was unedited, filmed in a single take, but the BBC analysis found it had been edited.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/17/idf-evidence-so-far-falls-well-short-of-al-shifa-hospital-being-hamas-hq?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

https://twitter.com/broseph_stalin/status/1725481914562121794?t=WOi4EgDu-zFXKXwx-tg5iw&s=19

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Itchy on November 18, 2023, 10:45:56 AMAnyone still a believer in anything Israel says. From no less than the BBC...

Even the videos produced so far have raised questions under scrutiny. A BBC analysis found the footage of an IDF spokesperson showing the apparent discovery of a bag containing a gun behind an MRI scanning machine, had been taped hours before the arrival of the journalists to whom he was supposedly showing it.


In a video shown later, the number of guns in the bag had doubled. The IDF claimed its video of what it found at the hospital was unedited, filmed in a single take, but the BBC analysis found it had been edited.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/17/idf-evidence-so-far-falls-well-short-of-al-shifa-hospital-being-hamas-hq?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

https://twitter.com/broseph_stalin/status/1725481914562121794?t=WOi4EgDu-zFXKXwx-tg5iw&s=19


i think it's all deliberate, it's all done to distract from their genocide, make the conversation be about what is truth and what is lie.. then the bigger picture of 75 plus years of ethic cleansing, genocide and apartheid is secondary

seafoid

Biden has lost a lot of support amongst younger voters.
Israel had to sell $6bn in bonds to fund the war privately because a public issue was untouchable. Per financial times.
Glad to see Israel treatted as the pariah that is .


PadraicHenryPearse

haaretz released some new details about Israeli actions on Oct 7th.