Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[Itchy]

Russia has no agency, nor do the likes of Ukraine who were pushing for NATO membership and European integration?

I spoke about lies above. One of the most pernicious lies is that somehow Ukraine's actions are directed by the US, the EU or someone else. Ukraine does not want to ruled by Russia, why the f*ck should it, and it wants to join the EU and NATO to ensure that it is not ruled by Russia.
An analogy is Brexit, if you read the Telegraph, Daily Mail etc you would believe that Varadkar was being directed by the EU to cause problems in the 6 counties. Of course, the reality is that the Irish people do not want a trade border on this island and they told Varadkar to go to the EU and ensure that they did not have one.

If someone is to make an argument then transparent bollix does not help.

Ukraine hasn't been ruled by Russia for a long time but something changed in the last few yrs. Go have a look at a map of NATO and US bases around the world and you might get a clue. Have a look at the bases around China too. If you think the USA are the good guys these days you need to get your head checked out.

[Itchy]

The 3rd oldest Christian church in the world bombed last night. It was sheltering civilians and reports believe something like 100 dead. These were Christian Palestinians mostly which I imagine in US eyes are worth 3 Muslims each. I suppose its difficult to see churches, they don't really stand out in the skyline do they. Its a measure of the depravity going on that this is just getting a shoulder shrug from the media today. Maybe Hamas were inside getting their confessions taken, hadnt thought of that.

[Milltown Row2]

The 3rd oldest Christian church in the world bombed last night. It was sheltering civilians and reports believe something like 100 dead. These were Christian Palestinians mostly which I imagine in US eyes are worth 3 Muslims each. I suppose its difficult to see churches, they don't really stand out in the skyline do they. Its a measure of the depravity going on that this is just getting a shoulder shrug from the media today. Maybe Hamas were inside getting their confessions taken, hadnt thought of that.

The media seem to shrug their shoulders at most deaths in conflict, tomorrow or the next day when the IDF go in there will be bloodshed for months. Gaza is at least getting media attention.

55 Civilians, Including 12 Children, 10 Women, and Two Individuals Who Died due to Torture Documented Killed in Syria in September 2023
Killings are Still a Daily Occurrence in Syria, With the Country Still One of the World's Worst in Terms of Bloodshed

Other countries going through similar atrocities, but some are at least getting some spotlight

https://snhr.org/blog/category/report/monthly-reports/victims-death-toll/

I've got to the point in life where you can only look after your own shit, piling the misery of other nations conflicts onto yourself will do you no good

[armaghniac]

Ukraine hasn't been ruled by Russia for a long time but something changed in the last few yrs. Go have a look at a map of NATO and US bases around the world and you might get a clue. Have a look at the bases around China too. If you think the USA are the good guys these days you need to get your head checked out.

Of course something changed in the last few years, Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014!
Why do you want Ukraine to be ruled by Russia, all your comments suggest this?

[johnnycool]

Russia has no agency, nor do the likes of Ukraine who were pushing for NATO membership and European integration?

I spoke about lies above. One of the most pernicious lies is that somehow Ukraine's actions are directed by the US, the EU or someone else. Ukraine does not want to ruled by Russia, why the f*ck should it, and it wants to join the EU and NATO to ensure that it is not ruled by Russia.
An analogy is Brexit, if you read the Telegraph, Daily Mail etc you would believe that Varadkar was being directed by the EU to cause problems in the 6 counties. Of course, the reality is that the Irish people do not want a trade border on this island and they told Varadkar to go to the EU and ensure that they did not have one.

If someone is to make an argument then transparent bollix does not help.

The real analogy is the Cuban Missiles crisis.

What happened there?

[Itchy]

Ukraine hasn't been ruled by Russia for a long time but something changed in the last few yrs. Go have a look at a map of NATO and US bases around the world and you might get a clue. Have a look at the bases around China too. If you think the USA are the good guys these days you need to get your head checked out.

Of course something changed in the last few years, Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014!
Why do you want Ukraine to be ruled by Russia, all your comments suggest this?

No my comments do not suggest that unless you are thick (which is probably what happened here). As someone said its the Cuban missile crisis scenario in reverse. Keep poking the bear and you'll get a reaction. Keep caging people into Gaza treating them as subhuman beasts and don't be shocked when they act like that and attack you.

[armaghniac]

The real analogy is the Cuban Missiles crisis.

What happened there?

In the Cuban missile crisis the Russians already had a naval base in Cuba, but the US objected to the deployment of nuclear weapons.
In Ukraine, in 2014 they were leasing a naval base to Russia, not the US, and even to the present day there are no NATO forces in Ukraine. It is a lazy comparison at best.

After the breakup of the USSR Ukraine agreed to decommission its nuclear weapons and had a treaty with Russia. What happened there?

[Itchy]

The real analogy is the Cuban Missiles crisis.

What happened there?

In the Cuban missile crisis the Russians already had a naval base in Cuba, but the US objected to the deployment of nuclear weapons.
In Ukraine, in 2014 they were leasing a naval base to Russia, not the US, and even to the present day there are no NATO forces in Ukraine. It is a lazy comparison at best.

After the breakup of the USSR Ukraine agreed to decommission its nuclear weapons and had a treaty with Russia. What happened there?

Eh America decommissioned all it Nuclear weapons and so did its buddy Israel, am I right. Do I get a gold star?

[Itchy]

The 3rd oldest Christian church in the world bombed last night. It was sheltering civilians and reports believe something like 100 dead. These were Christian Palestinians mostly which I imagine in US eyes are worth 3 Muslims each. I suppose its difficult to see churches, they don't really stand out in the skyline do they. Its a measure of the depravity going on that this is just getting a shoulder shrug from the media today. Maybe Hamas were inside getting their confessions taken, hadnt thought of that.

The media seem to shrug their shoulders at most deaths in conflict, tomorrow or the next day when the IDF go in there will be bloodshed for months. Gaza is at least getting media attention.

55 Civilians, Including 12 Children, 10 Women, and Two Individuals Who Died due to Torture Documented Killed in Syria in September 2023
Killings are Still a Daily Occurrence in Syria, With the Country Still One of the World's Worst in Terms of Bloodshed

Other countries going through similar atrocities, but some are at least getting some spotlight

https://snhr.org/blog/category/report/monthly-reports/victims-death-toll/

I've got to the point in life where you can only look after your own shit, piling the misery of other nations conflicts onto yourself will do you no good

What are you on about, wasn't Syria saved (maybe even defended?) by America and the people freed to live happily ever after.

[J70]

Russia has no agency, nor do the likes of Ukraine who were pushing for NATO membership and European integration?

I spoke about lies above. One of the most pernicious lies is that somehow Ukraine's actions are directed by the US, the EU or someone else. Ukraine does not want to ruled by Russia, why the f*ck should it, and it wants to join the EU and NATO to ensure that it is not ruled by Russia.
An analogy is Brexit, if you read the Telegraph, Daily Mail etc you would believe that Varadkar was being directed by the EU to cause problems in the 6 counties. Of course, the reality is that the Irish people do not want a trade border on this island and they told Varadkar to go to the EU and ensure that they did not have one.

If someone is to make an argument then transparent bollix does not help.

Ukraine hasn't been ruled by Russia for a long time but something changed in the last few yrs. Go have a look at a map of NATO and US bases around the world and you might get a clue. Have a look at the bases around China too. If you think the USA are the good guys these days you need to get your head checked out.

Who is saying the US are the good guys?

You'd swear listening to you lads that they're the only bad guys, and that all the problems of the world begin and end with them!

[Itchy]

The 3rd oldest Christian church in the world bombed last night. It was sheltering civilians and reports believe something like 100 dead. These were Christian Palestinians mostly which I imagine in US eyes are worth 3 Muslims each. I suppose its difficult to see churches, they don't really stand out in the skyline do they. Its a measure of the depravity going on that this is just getting a shoulder shrug from the media today. Maybe Hamas were inside getting their confessions taken, hadnt thought of that.

The media seem to shrug their shoulders at most deaths in conflict, tomorrow or the next day when the IDF go in there will be bloodshed for months. Gaza is at least getting media attention.

55 Civilians, Including 12 Children, 10 Women, and Two Individuals Who Died due to Torture Documented Killed in Syria in September 2023
Killings are Still a Daily Occurrence in Syria, With the Country Still One of the World's Worst in Terms of Bloodshed

Other countries going through similar atrocities, but some are at least getting some spotlight

https://snhr.org/blog/category/report/monthly-reports/victims-death-toll/

I've got to the point in life where you can only look after your own shit, piling the misery of other nations conflicts onto yourself will do you no good

What are you on about, wasn't Syria saved (maybe even defended?) by America and the people freed to live happily ever after.

So you are agreeing that the US is every bit as bad as Putin, Netanyahu etc
If that's the case we are in agreement. Historically we have help the yanks up to be better than that but the more we see the more we know it isn't.

We cant say all the problems of the world begin and end with them but I would say they are more responsible than any other country bar the Brits who started most of it.

[Milltown Row2]

The 3rd oldest Christian church in the world bombed last night. It was sheltering civilians and reports believe something like 100 dead. These were Christian Palestinians mostly which I imagine in US eyes are worth 3 Muslims each. I suppose its difficult to see churches, they don't really stand out in the skyline do they. Its a measure of the depravity going on that this is just getting a shoulder shrug from the media today. Maybe Hamas were inside getting their confessions taken, hadnt thought of that.

The media seem to shrug their shoulders at most deaths in conflict, tomorrow or the next day when the IDF go in there will be bloodshed for months. Gaza is at least getting media attention.

55 Civilians, Including 12 Children, 10 Women, and Two Individuals Who Died due to Torture Documented Killed in Syria in September 2023
Killings are Still a Daily Occurrence in Syria, With the Country Still One of the World's Worst in Terms of Bloodshed

Other countries going through similar atrocities, but some are at least getting some spotlight

https://snhr.org/blog/category/report/monthly-reports/victims-death-toll/

I've got to the point in life where you can only look after your own shit, piling the misery of other nations conflicts onto yourself will do you no good

What are you on about, wasn't Syria saved (maybe even defended?) by America and the people freed to live happily ever after.

Aye, sure that's it in a nutshell 

Talking about media snubs and you bring in America

You'll be telling me America started WW2 next

[Itchy]

The 3rd oldest Christian church in the world bombed last night. It was sheltering civilians and reports believe something like 100 dead. These were Christian Palestinians mostly which I imagine in US eyes are worth 3 Muslims each. I suppose its difficult to see churches, they don't really stand out in the skyline do they. Its a measure of the depravity going on that this is just getting a shoulder shrug from the media today. Maybe Hamas were inside getting their confessions taken, hadnt thought of that.

The media seem to shrug their shoulders at most deaths in conflict, tomorrow or the next day when the IDF go in there will be bloodshed for months. Gaza is at least getting media attention.

55 Civilians, Including 12 Children, 10 Women, and Two Individuals Who Died due to Torture Documented Killed in Syria in September 2023
Killings are Still a Daily Occurrence in Syria, With the Country Still One of the World's Worst in Terms of Bloodshed

Other countries going through similar atrocities, but some are at least getting some spotlight

https://snhr.org/blog/category/report/monthly-reports/victims-death-toll/

I've got to the point in life where you can only look after your own shit, piling the misery of other nations conflicts onto yourself will do you no good

What are you on about, wasn't Syria saved (maybe even defended?) by America and the people freed to live happily ever after.

Aye, sure that's it in a nutshell 

Talking about media snubs and you bring in America

You'll be telling me America started WW2 next

Well not directly but no I wouldn't lay the most blame at the feet of America for WW2 and indeed without them we would be possibly speaking German and there wouldn't be a Jew alive today. However, that version of America is long gone. The one we have now destroyed Syria and Iraq, funds murders in Palestine and defends the murderers.

[Milltown Row2]

The 3rd oldest Christian church in the world bombed last night. It was sheltering civilians and reports believe something like 100 dead. These were Christian Palestinians mostly which I imagine in US eyes are worth 3 Muslims each. I suppose its difficult to see churches, they don't really stand out in the skyline do they. Its a measure of the depravity going on that this is just getting a shoulder shrug from the media today. Maybe Hamas were inside getting their confessions taken, hadnt thought of that.

The media seem to shrug their shoulders at most deaths in conflict, tomorrow or the next day when the IDF go in there will be bloodshed for months. Gaza is at least getting media attention.

55 Civilians, Including 12 Children, 10 Women, and Two Individuals Who Died due to Torture Documented Killed in Syria in September 2023
Killings are Still a Daily Occurrence in Syria, With the Country Still One of the World's Worst in Terms of Bloodshed

Other countries going through similar atrocities, but some are at least getting some spotlight

https://snhr.org/blog/category/report/monthly-reports/victims-death-toll/

I've got to the point in life where you can only look after your own shit, piling the misery of other nations conflicts onto yourself will do you no good

What are you on about, wasn't Syria saved (maybe even defended?) by America and the people freed to live happily ever after.

So you are agreeing that the US is every bit as bad as Putin, Netanyahu etc
If that's the case we are in agreement. Historically we have help the yanks up to be better than that but the more we see the more we know it isn't.

We cant say all the problems of the world begin and end with them but I would say they are more responsible than any other country bar the Brits who started most of it.

Main reason was the Arab spring uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt, the Americans only getting involved because ISIS was being allowed to train its fighters there and Russia's entry was to stop western influences.

The place is a cluster f**k and not because of the Americans

The Middle East has always been, through history, a cluster f**k sitting on a timebomb ready to explode and at the minute who knows how this will escalate and spread to major cities around the world.

You probably cheered at 9/11 also, considering they deserved it

Why people are getting more carried away at what's happening in Palestine, when there are more atrocities elsewhere is a strange one but I don't see too many Syria flags or Somalian flegs uppa Falls

[armaghniac]

Eh America decommissioned all it Nuclear weapons and so did its buddy Israel, am I right. Do I get a gold star?

No, you are just taking the urine instead of presenting an argument.