Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

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imtommygunn


English FA getting some flak for not allowing the Israel flag to light up the wembley arch in whatever game they are playing. Fair play for them for not doing that.

markl121

I have noticed a bit of a media backtrack the last couple of days, with a more balanced opinion being shown. Maybe they have realised how this will look after the israelis kill thousands.

Pub Bore

Quote from: markl121 on October 13, 2023, 10:18:50 AMI have noticed a bit of a media backtrack the last couple of days, with a more balanced opinion being shown. Maybe they have realised how this will look after the israelis kill thousands.

Yes, I noticed this too.  Now that the Hamas attack is largely over, the focus is slowly moving to the Israeli attack which is ongoing.  Sky carried a 15 min interview with Humza Yousaf's wife, who is Palestinian, and whose parents are trapped in Gaza having gone to visit a sick family member.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: markl121 on October 13, 2023, 10:18:50 AMI have noticed a bit of a media backtrack the last couple of days, with a more balanced opinion being shown. Maybe they have realised how this will look after the israelis kill thousands.

The media follows trends, its their business to go with the popular things and if views worldwide are changing they'll follow suit..

Unfortunately that won't help those in Gaza. The sound bites coming from both sides currently means that there will be a stand off, Hamas telling people to stay, Israel telling them to move south! Moving south to where?!

Proper mess
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

PadraicHenryPearse

#499
the times picture is Palestinians but the headline is Israel

https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1712762058649796744?t=VuPRRuHpRD1m9PFSVX1LkA&s=19

There is no change from those with influence, the EU/US/UK. Even when commented by the media the message is still mostly retalition, response, proportionally

johnnycool

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2023, 10:32:26 AM
Quote from: markl121 on October 13, 2023, 10:18:50 AMI have noticed a bit of a media backtrack the last couple of days, with a more balanced opinion being shown. Maybe they have realised how this will look after the israelis kill thousands.

The media follows trends, its their business to go with the popular things and if views worldwide are changing they'll follow suit..

Unfortunately that won't help those in Gaza. The sound bites coming from both sides currently means that there will be a stand off, Hamas telling people to stay, Israel telling them to move south! Moving south to where?!

Proper mess

Israel knows they've nowhere to go but will tell everyone post the genocide that they were warned...

There's not much care from Israel in getting those hostages back alive.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: johnnycool on October 13, 2023, 10:43:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2023, 10:32:26 AM
Quote from: markl121 on October 13, 2023, 10:18:50 AMI have noticed a bit of a media backtrack the last couple of days, with a more balanced opinion being shown. Maybe they have realised how this will look after the israelis kill thousands.

The media follows trends, its their business to go with the popular things and if views worldwide are changing they'll follow suit..

Unfortunately that won't help those in Gaza. The sound bites coming from both sides currently means that there will be a stand off, Hamas telling people to stay, Israel telling them to move south! Moving south to where?!

Proper mess

Israel knows they've nowhere to go but will tell everyone post the genocide that they were warned...

There's not much care from Israel in getting those hostages back alive.

Collateral damage, and I'd be worried about the next set of radicalised people that will be sent out to take revenge on countries which allowed this to happen, London New York and the rest that have joined in, will no doubt get a 'touch' in the coming years
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

NAG1

Quote from: johnnycool on October 13, 2023, 10:43:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2023, 10:32:26 AM
Quote from: markl121 on October 13, 2023, 10:18:50 AMI have noticed a bit of a media backtrack the last couple of days, with a more balanced opinion being shown. Maybe they have realised how this will look after the israelis kill thousands.

The media follows trends, its their business to go with the popular things and if views worldwide are changing they'll follow suit..

Unfortunately that won't help those in Gaza. The sound bites coming from both sides currently means that there will be a stand off, Hamas telling people to stay, Israel telling them to move south! Moving south to where?!

Proper mess

Israel knows they've nowhere to go but will tell everyone post the genocide that they were warned...

There's not much care from Israel in getting those hostages back alive.

Regardless of the fate of the hostages Israel will use it, if they are killed then another excuse to go nuclear on Gazza, if some how they are rescued it will be because Israel went so hard line.

There is no coincidence that this has happened under the most right right wing Gov't that has ever existed in the state. I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if intelligence was ignored to create this narrative which allows them to go end of days on the Palestinians like they have always wanted too.

Milltown Row2

allowing 1200 people or more, and more still when the army go in to try and wipe out Gaza would never be forgiven surely if true? Would be impossible to contain that information without it getting out in todays times surely?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

PadraicHenryPearse

#504
they don't need a narrative, this happens periodically since the nakba in 48. And In between they continue to oppress, degrade. murder, maim, displace, uproot and dehumanise.

NAG1

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 13, 2023, 11:03:46 AMthey don't need a narrative, this happens periodically since the nakba in 48. And In between they continue to oppress, degrade. murder and maim.

This will be on a new level to any of those that have gone before. So they will need some cover for it to the rest of the world.

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: NAG1 on October 13, 2023, 11:08:13 AM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 13, 2023, 11:03:46 AMthey don't need a narrative, this happens periodically since the nakba in 48. And In between they continue to oppress, degrade. murder and maim.

This will be on a new level to any of those that have gone before. So they will need some cover for it to the rest of the world.

the rest of the world doesn't care, look at their comments so far, look how they have turned a blind eye for 75 plus years.  they need no cover, they have impunity.

tiempo

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 13, 2023, 11:03:46 AMthey don't need a narrative, this happens periodically since the nakba in 48. And In between they continue to oppress, degrade. murder, maim, displace, uproot and dehumanise.

100% - its a systematic attempt at extermination, with peaks and troughs to suit

As for Netanyahu, he's that age now this is his last shot at 'greatness' like Putin a complete megalomaniac, with a lust for blood, cut from the same cloth as Hitler

The whole thing is a stain on humanity

Armagh18

Quote from: NAG1 on October 13, 2023, 10:53:36 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 13, 2023, 10:43:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2023, 10:32:26 AM
Quote from: markl121 on October 13, 2023, 10:18:50 AMI have noticed a bit of a media backtrack the last couple of days, with a more balanced opinion being shown. Maybe they have realised how this will look after the israelis kill thousands.

The media follows trends, its their business to go with the popular things and if views worldwide are changing they'll follow suit..

Unfortunately that won't help those in Gaza. The sound bites coming from both sides currently means that there will be a stand off, Hamas telling people to stay, Israel telling them to move south! Moving south to where?!

Proper mess

Israel knows they've nowhere to go but will tell everyone post the genocide that they were warned...

There's not much care from Israel in getting those hostages back alive.

Regardless of the fate of the hostages Israel will use it, if they are killed then another excuse to go nuclear on Gazza, if some how they are rescued it will be because Israel went so hard line.

There is no coincidence that this has happened under the most right right wing Gov't that has ever existed in the state. I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if intelligence was ignored to create this narrative which allows them to go end of days on the Palestinians like they have always wanted too.
Without a doubt. Theres no way with the resources their military has that they didn't see this coming

Milltown Row2

Are we more vocal/aware about the other war campaigns in other countries as we are for the Palestine cause?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea