Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[Taylor]

We have the perfect storm. Two sides steeped in depravity rarely seen in modern wars. Prepared to murder and kill anyone, infants, children all legitimate targets in their eyes. No side better than the other and neither side prepared to step back from the abyss.

Any decent human being is absolutely appalled by what Hamas has done and now Israel will use it as justification to obliterate Gaza. This could be our 21st century holocaust.

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[Milltown Row2]

Whats happening in The Middle east is happening the world over

Countries such as Afghanistan, Central African Republic, Ethiopia, Libya, Mali, Somalia, South Sudan, and Syria are all currently experiencing civil wars, resulting in significant casualties and displacement.

Drug wars in South America probably killing as many with absolutely no coverage

The worlds fucked or, has this just been the norm for a Millenia or more?

[imtommygunn]

It's more apparent now with so much news being available. It was always f**ked though it does appear a little bit more now.

Imagine the internet during WW2, 1916, the ottoman empire etc etc. It would be buck mental.

Also social medias etc are being weaponised for propaganda etc so that has definitely changed things.

[LC]

I don't think they will be content until Palestine is wiped off the face of the map 

There could be genocide of a scale rarely seen before coming here and the world is going to sit by and watch. Horrendous.

It reminds me of Yugoslavia in the early 90s, only difference then was that the UN were able to go in albeit with limited impact.  Here the Israelis unfortunately will be able to do whatever the f@#k they want.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

We have the perfect storm. Two sides steeped in depravity rarely seen in modern wars. Prepared to murder and kill anyone, infants, children all legitimate targets in their eyes. No side better than the other and neither side prepared to step back from the abyss.

Any decent human being is absolutely appalled by what Hamas has done and now Israel will use it as justification to obliterate Gaza. This could be our 21st century holocaust.

Completely wrong viewpoint and one that continues the israeli are responding to Hamas lie. Israel for 75 years has occupied Palestine.  The resistence is responding.

In all wars/conflicts there are inhumane and appalling acts, every nation or group commits them be it the US, Nato, Russia, Ukraine, IRA, Britain etc.  Hamas also attacked military bases and the military apparatus, they let some go Israelis and took pows/hostages, they also committed some inhumane and indiscriminate killings, something Israel has done for 75 years with impunity.

[trailer]

We have the perfect storm. Two sides steeped in depravity rarely seen in modern wars. Prepared to murder and kill anyone, infants, children all legitimate targets in their eyes. No side better than the other and neither side prepared to step back from the abyss.

Any decent human being is absolutely appalled by what Hamas has done and now Israel will use it as justification to obliterate Gaza. This could be our 21st century holocaust.

Completely wrong viewpoint and one that continues the israeli are responding to Hamas lie. Israel for 75 years has occupied Palestine.  The resistence is responding.

In all wars/conflicts there are inhumane and appalling acts, every nation or group commits them be it the US, Nato, Russia, Ukraine, IRA, Britain etc.  Hamas also attacked military bases and the military apparatus, they let some go Israelis and took pows/hostages, they also committed some inhumane and indiscriminate killings, something Israel has done for 75 years with impunity.

I can never see justification for these kinds of acts whether it is carpet bombing Gaza or raping and murdering some poor woman. Neither side in this war can claim any sort of moral high ground. 

The solution will be achieved via dialogue. We know this from our experience. Violence solves nothing. Both sides must come back from the brink, but I fear the death toll will be in the tens of thousands before that happens.
 

[JoG2]

We have the perfect storm. Two sides steeped in depravity rarely seen in modern wars. Prepared to murder and kill anyone, infants, children all legitimate targets in their eyes. No side better than the other and neither side prepared to step back from the abyss.

Any decent human being is absolutely appalled by what Hamas has done and now Israel will use it as justification to obliterate Gaza. This could be our 21st century holocaust.

I have a very bad feeling that is what is coming here 

Yes, it's beyond grim. The level of hate is mind blowing. Religion is some cod

[RedHand88]

Partitioning them was a bad idea in hindsight.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

We have the perfect storm. Two sides steeped in depravity rarely seen in modern wars. Prepared to murder and kill anyone, infants, children all legitimate targets in their eyes. No side better than the other and neither side prepared to step back from the abyss.

Any decent human being is absolutely appalled by what Hamas has done and now Israel will use it as justification to obliterate Gaza. This could be our 21st century holocaust.

Completely wrong viewpoint and one that continues the israeli are responding to Hamas lie. Israel for 75 years has occupied Palestine.  The resistence is responding.

In all wars/conflicts there are inhumane and appalling acts, every nation or group commits them be it the US, Nato, Russia, Ukraine, IRA, Britain etc.  Hamas also attacked military bases and the military apparatus, they let some go Israelis and took pows/hostages, they also committed some inhumane and indiscriminate killings, something Israel has done for 75 years with impunity.

I can never see justification for these kinds of acts whether it is carpet bombing Gaza or raping and murdering some poor woman. Neither side in this war can claim any sort of moral high ground. 

The solution will be achieved via dialogue. We know this from our experience. Violence solves nothing. Both sides must come back from the brink, but I fear the death toll will be in the tens of thousands before that happens.
 

No one is justifying it here, not sure why that comes up so much.

The rape accusation has been removed by La times I believeas unsubstantiated, the women I assume you are referring to, latest info is she is alive but critical in a hospital in Gaza. I would treat the rape accusation as I would the fact she is alive with cautioun, there is alot of misinformation out there.

As for moral high ground, there are the occupied/caged and the occupier.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

here the head of the EU is doing some justification for murdering Palestinians

https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1712026324724773083?t=iZqIhVjGoUF5dYSXLRUpLg&s=19

[LC]

We have the perfect storm. Two sides steeped in depravity rarely seen in modern wars. Prepared to murder and kill anyone, infants, children all legitimate targets in their eyes. No side better than the other and neither side prepared to step back from the abyss.

Any decent human being is absolutely appalled by what Hamas has done and now Israel will use it as justification to obliterate Gaza. This could be our 21st century holocaust.

I have a very bad feeling that is what is coming here 

Yes, it's beyond grim. The level of hate is mind blowing. Religion is some cod

Like Yugoslavia in the early 90s.

[Sportacus]

We have the perfect storm. Two sides steeped in depravity rarely seen in modern wars. Prepared to murder and kill anyone, infants, children all legitimate targets in their eyes. No side better than the other and neither side prepared to step back from the abyss.

Any decent human being is absolutely appalled by what Hamas has done and now Israel will use it as justification to obliterate Gaza. This could be our 21st century holocaust.

Completely wrong viewpoint and one that continues the israeli are responding to Hamas lie. Israel for 75 years has occupied Palestine.  The resistence is responding.

In all wars/conflicts there are inhumane and appalling acts, every nation or group commits them be it the US, Nato, Russia, Ukraine, IRA, Britain etc.  Hamas also attacked military bases and the military apparatus, they let some go Israelis and took pows/hostages, they also committed some inhumane and indiscriminate killings, something Israel has done for 75 years with impunity.

I can never see justification for these kinds of acts whether it is carpet bombing Gaza or raping and murdering some poor woman. Neither side in this war can claim any sort of moral high ground. 

The solution will be achieved via dialogue. We know this from our experience. Violence solves nothing. Both sides must come back from the brink, but I fear the death toll will be in the tens of thousands before that happens.
 

Correct, and as always it is the innocent civilians who will bear the brunt.  Unfortunately there seems no short term mechanism to bring it back from the brink.  The Americans have given the Israeli's a blank cheque. The Israeli government either let it happen or were asleep at the wheel.  Either way, they will act now by bulldozing Gaza, and whatever is left there, particularly the youth, will be drawn to Hamas because there's no other road.  A depressing downward spiral.

[armaghniac]

here the head of the EU is doing some justification for murdering Palestinians

https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1712026324724773083?t=iZqIhVjGoUF5dYSXLRUpLg&s=19

It is perfectly rational to state the Israel should defend itself, while still having reservations about the manner of the actions that they take.
One characteristic of this issue is people backing either side unconditionally, when all we have is shades of grey.

[Armagh18]

here the head of the EU is doing some justification for murdering Palestinians

https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1712026324724773083?t=iZqIhVjGoUF5dYSXLRUpLg&s=19

It is perfectly rational to state the Israel should defend itself, while still having reservations about the manner of the actions that they take.
One characteristic of this issue is people backing either side unconditionally, when all we have is shades of grey.

Seen a good one today, cartoon of an Israeli man poking a Palestinian wasps nest and then running crying to the cameras when the wasps stung him.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

here the head of the EU is doing some justification for murdering Palestinians

https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1712026324724773083?t=iZqIhVjGoUF5dYSXLRUpLg&s=19

It is perfectly rational to state the Israel should defend itself, while still having reservations about the manner of the actions that they take.
One characteristic of this issue is people backing either side unconditionally, when all we have is shades of grey.

total and utter bullshit... there is no reversations in the statement about the 'manner' of response, there is no comment on the 75 years of oppression, no comment on the 260 dead children on Gaza, no comment on Palestinian right to defend themselves, no mention of turning off financial support to Israel who acts like terrorists.

side with the occupier or the those occupied.. it is very simple.