Joe Brolly

[DuffleKing]

Well said Joe.
So much brain dead throwball boredom
Ban/restrict the fcukn handpassthrow

Restrict the numbers in the defensive half.

How and who would police this?
Who'd be penalised, where would the free be from?
And dont say only nos 1-7 can be in their own half - what about subs  jersey nos??

In county football the 4th official. He is on the halfway line and can presumably count.

And in junior b football?

[smelmoth]

Well said Joe.
So much brain dead throwball boredom
Ban/restrict the fcukn handpassthrow

Restrict the numbers in the defensive half.

How and who would police this?
Who'd be penalised, where would the free be from?
And dont say only nos 1-7 can be in their own half - what about subs  jersey nos??

In county football the 4th official. He is on the halfway line and can presumably count.

And in junior b football?

Whoever operates the haweye

[smelmoth]

Well said Joe.
So much brain dead throwball boredom
Ban/restrict the fcukn handpassthrow

Restrict the numbers in the defensive half.

How and who would police this?
Who'd be penalised, where would the free be from?
And dont say only nos 1-7 can be in their own half - what about subs  jersey nos??

In county football the 4th official. He is on the halfway line and can presumably count.

Like the lad in Portlaoise
He's the 8th offeeshul actually.

Well the 8th official then. Hardly affects the point

[Olly]

How do ex-players become pundits? Do you do an exam or something? I know a boy who knows a lot about football but he's shy.

[Il Bomber Destro]

Why do people insist on changing rules of the game in order to counteract tactical developments?

Idiots.

[Rossfan]

Happens in most field games to make them more attractive to watch.

[LeoMc]

Well said Joe.
So much brain dead throwball boredom
Ban/restrict the fcukn handpassthrow

Restrict the numbers in the defensive half. And to support the mark restrict the numbers within 45s at kick outs.

Teams would pay a big price for sendings off via either the red or black cards.

Definitely worth a trial.

Make the jersey pull a black card.

Hand passing has its place. Leave it as is but incentivise teams to kick

This will lead to even more unchallenged kick-outs with Cluxton / Morgan chipping the ball into the chest of the onrushing MDMA / Mattie Donnelly. Combining it with the 'mark' you may as well restart the game with a free kick from mid-field.

[Jinxy]

Tactical innovations and the improvements in athletic ability across all field sports are a bit of a chicken and egg situation.
Look at how the body types have changed in rugby and aussie rules for example in the last 10 years.
Defence coaches were brought in from rugby league to union which meant that instead of running around players, the attacking team had to run through/over them.
This created the need for bigger, more powerful centres who are there to defend first, and 15-16 stone wingers that are lightning quick.

Aussie rules has moved towards a hard running based sport where the primary physical attribute a new recruit requires is a 'tank', i.e. massive aerobic capacity.
It used to be a sport where big lads with mullets knocked lumps out of each other.
You then end up with a vicious circle where tactical innovation and athletic ability feed into each other and the entertainment value of the sport can suffer as a result.

Despite some rule changes in both codes to counter this, I think most rugby union and aussie rules fans of a certain age would rather go back to a time where the players weren't genetically engineered to play sport and there was more of a sense of adventure and romance.
That ain't gonna happen though, and I don't know to what extent rule changes can realistically achieve some kind of happy medium.
Maybe a lot of it is misty-eyed nostalgia anyway.

[Maroon Manc]

Why do people insist on changing rules of the game in order to counteract tactical developments?

Idiots.

All about opinions and yours isn't more important than anyone else's.

[BennyHarp]

Why do people insist on changing rules of the game in order to counteract tactical developments?

Idiots.

All about opinions and yours isn't more important than anyone else's.

Its not but why does the opinion of a relatively small group of people get to change the rules for everyone. Ask how many players or managers wanted the black card? How many want the mark?

[Rossfan]

Of course players and managers didn't want the black card (or the reds or yellows either no doubt or refs or anything that might keep a biteen of manners on them )
Administrators (through Congress) make the rules , players and managers are required to abide by them.
How many people would vote for Income tax, PRSI etc but Government/Dáil legislate for them.

[blewuporstuffed]

Why do people insist on changing rules of the game in order to counteract tactical developments?

Idiots.

All about opinions and yours isn't more important than anyone else's.

Its not but why does the opinion of a relatively small group of people get to change the rules for everyone. Ask how many players or managers wanted the black card? How many want the mark?

Exactly.
Some of the stuff proposed is ridiculous when you consider the wider consequences.

[Maroon Manc]

Why do people insist on changing rules of the game in order to counteract tactical developments?

Idiots.

All about opinions and yours isn't more important than anyone else's.

Its not but why does the opinion of a relatively small group of people get to change the rules for everyone. Ask how many players or managers wanted the black card? How many want the mark?

This is a bulletin board where I'm suggesting its hardly idiotic for people to make suggestions on changing the rules of the games.

Surely most county boards took a vote at their own county board first and prior to that club delegates would have checked at their own club meetings on which way to vote.

[BennyHarp]

Of course players and managers didn't want the black card (or the reds or yellows either no doubt or refs or anything that might keep a biteen of manners on them )
Administrators (through Congress) make the rules , players and managers are required to abide by them.
How many people would vote for Income tax, PRSI etc but Government/Dáil legislate for them.

Which is a sham democracy. Some of the key stakeholders in the game have their opinions ignored which is ridiculous. Administrators making rules changes and managers then making tactics to get around the rule changes creates a cat and mouse scenario that does the game no favours.

I think the game is moving out of the ultra defensive strategies that has been the norm for so long anyway. It was always going to happen as managers developed attacking strategies to add to the defensive ones. As a sport we are fairly new to well thought out tactical approaches to our game. What is emerging in style with Tyrone, Dublin, Donegal and a few others is great to watch and it seems to me that the game is changing tactically again, this time in a more attacking way. The game will evolve naturally and hopefully people like you can hold your horses and calm your desire for administrators to get involved and change things just yet.

[blewuporstuffed]

Why do people insist on changing rules of the game in order to counteract tactical developments?

Idiots.

All about opinions and yours isn't more important than anyone else's.

Its not but why does the opinion of a relatively small group of people get to change the rules for everyone. Ask how many players or managers wanted the black card? How many want the mark?

This is a bulletin board where I'm suggesting its hardly idiotic for people to make suggestions on changing the rules of the games.

Surely most county boards took a vote at their own county board first and prior to that club delegates would have checked at their own club meetings on which way to vote.

Fair enough, but we have people proposing banning fundamental aspects of the game (like the hand pass).
There are small tweaks to teh rules  that i would more than welcome, but some things proposed give no thought what so ever to the knock on effects.