TG4 - Club Championships Coverage

Started by drici, September 23, 2007, 05:05:49 PM

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Hi guys,

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yellowcard

Dr Crokes 3-12 TCG 0-6 today. What good is it asking provincial champions to extend their season an extra 2 weeks to play an AI qf that they always win. Have the British champions ever actually won any of these games? Would make more sense to have them compete in the Connacht club c'ship.

Lecale2

They've won at Junior and Intermediate level.

theticklemister

Quote from: yellowcard on December 16, 2012, 03:25:31 PM
Dr Crokes 3-12 TCG 0-6 today. What good is it asking provincial champions to extend their season an extra 2 weeks to play an AI qf that they always win. Have the British champions ever actually won any of these games? Would make more sense to have them compete in the Connacht club c'ship.

Is it fair that the London champions have to wait from 14th October util now to play their next game??? thats 2 months without a competitive game.


Captain Obvious

#516
Quote from: yellowcard on December 16, 2012, 03:25:31 PM
Dr Crokes 3-12 TCG 0-6 today. What good is it asking provincial champions to extend their season an extra 2 weeks to play an AI qf that they always win. Have the British champions ever actually won any of these games? Would make more sense to have them compete in the Connacht club c'ship.
In fairness the British champions have given a better account of themselves.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/mcconville-drags-cross-through-neasden-battle-2498776.html

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2008/0127/227348-crossmaglen/

Canalman

#517
Quote from: yellowcard on December 16, 2012, 03:25:31 PM
Dr Crokes 3-12 TCG 0-6 today. What good is it asking provincial champions to extend their season an extra 2 weeks to play an AI qf that they always win. Have the British champions ever actually won any of these games? Would make more sense to have them compete in the Connacht club c'ship.

English team gave Castleknock a right good battle earlier today in AIJFC 1/4 final. Went to extra time according to Res Dubs with Castleknock winning.
Iirc some of the most recent such games have been closer and not hidings .

yellowcard

Quote from: theticklemister on December 16, 2012, 03:53:03 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on December 16, 2012, 03:25:31 PM
Dr Crokes 3-12 TCG 0-6 today. What good is it asking provincial champions to extend their season an extra 2 weeks to play an AI qf that they always win. Have the British champions ever actually won any of these games? Would make more sense to have them compete in the Connacht club c'ship.

Is it fair that the London champions have to wait from 14th October util now to play their next game??? thats 2 months without a competitive game.

Exactly, all the more reason that they could go straight into the Connacht championship.

Lar Naparka

Quote from: yellowcard on December 16, 2012, 07:42:58 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on December 16, 2012, 03:53:03 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on December 16, 2012, 03:25:31 PM
Dr Crokes 3-12 TCG 0-6 today. What good is it asking provincial champions to extend their season an extra 2 weeks to play an AI qf that they always win. Have the British champions ever actually won any of these games? Would make more sense to have them compete in the Connacht club c'ship.

Is it fair that the London champions have to wait from 14th October util now to play their next game??? thats 2 months without a competitive game.


Exactly, all the more reason that they could go straight into the Connacht championship.
I'd have no problem with that. It would be a logical progression form their participation in the Connacht county championship.
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

Man of Kent

Quote from: yellowcard on December 16, 2012, 03:25:31 PM
Dr Crokes 3-12 TCG 0-6 today. What good is it asking provincial champions to extend their season an extra 2 weeks to play an AI qf that they always win. Have the British champions ever actually won any of these games? Would make more sense to have them compete in the Connacht club c'ship.

Whatever the ins and outs of it Dr Crokes gave TCG a right good going over on Sunday. They exchanged the first couple of points but after that..............nasty business. Three first half goals saw the contest won before the break.

From a personnel point of view it was good to get to see Colm Cooper, who strolled through the match dropping in the occasional classy touch, as it's unlikely London are will run into Kerry anytime soon! The DC front three  (Brady, Cooper, Doolan???) were very good.

Decent crowd will a good showing from Kerry.

TCG put in a shift but were simply outclassed.

irunthev

Quote from: Man of Kent on December 18, 2012, 07:34:04 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on December 16, 2012, 03:25:31 PM
Dr Crokes 3-12 TCG 0-6 today. What good is it asking provincial champions to extend their season an extra 2 weeks to play an AI qf that they always win. Have the British champions ever actually won any of these games? Would make more sense to have them compete in the Connacht club c'ship.

Whatever the ins and outs of it Dr Crokes gave TCG a right good going over on Sunday. They exchanged the first couple of points but after that..............nasty business. Three first half goals saw the contest won before the break.

From a personnel point of view it was good to get to see Colm Cooper, who strolled through the match dropping in the occasional classy touch, as it's unlikely London are will run into Kerry anytime soon! The DC front three  (Brady, Cooper, Doolan???) were very good.

Decent crowd will a good showing from Kerry.

TCG put in a shift but were simply outclassed.


In fairness to TCG, who over the last twenty years have played in this fixture 13 times, they would prefer to enter the competition at Connacht Club stage and if good enough, be well prepared for the AI QF should they reach it.

They recognise that the quality of the London Championship and the resulting two or three month break does them (or any other London team) no good at all. However there doesn't seem to be an appetite at Board level in London for this change as the annual AI QF in London is a good money maker for them.

There is of course always the option of delaying the London SF Championship a few months to accommodate the ambition of whoever wins the title, but that would be totally unfair on every other team in London.

In general though the London SFC does not measure up in any way to a Provincial winner... and that's just common sense. Ultimately, with the group stage system in London and just 8 senior teams in total (2 groups of four), it is possible to win just four Championship matches and find yourself in a AI QF.... it's a pretty easy passage. A team can lose a group game and still get through to the semi final, and in some instances even lose one and draw one and still get through. In that scenario they would have won just 3 matches to be playing in an AI QF. That's a pretty easy jog into AI territory and it leaves little mystery as to why the London champs struggle against the big hitters.

Also it must be noted that there is a world of difference between what the likes of St Brigids, Cross and Crokes will but up to a London team and what the Intermediate Championship winners of any Irish Province will put up to a Provincial winners from Britain. These senior teams are serious organisations and as Gooch said a few weeks ago, the likes of Cross could survive in the Nat League at Div 3. They are formidable teams.

Since this concept was introduced in the 1980s, no team from Britain has won this senior fixture.


Man of Kent

The Dr Crokes coach was saying much the same about London playing in Connacht. He also complained about the Irish side always having to travel for the fixture. To the untrained eye some sort of reform, as far as London is concerned, would be of benefit to everyone.

So what chance is there of change anytime soon?

johnneycool

Quote from: Man of Kent on December 28, 2012, 01:17:23 PM
The Dr Crokes coach was saying much the same about London playing in Connacht. He also complained about the Irish side always having to travel for the fixture. To the untrained eye some sort of reform, as far as London is concerned, would be of benefit to everyone.

So what chance is there of change anytime soon?

Croke park covers moderate expenses on these types of trips, so Crokes wouldn't be out too much financially.



drici

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