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Have you ever been to a match Olaf, what county are you from?

He is from Belfast.  It's not a county even though the county should take the name from the main town according to some. 

It's ironic that in Lynchboy's theory on towns and counties that is only actually taken up by the Orange Order, they have a Belfast County   

prob because Antrim was the main town first?

Like Coleraine?

it wont mean a jot though come reunification time when the Britich gov sell back the six counties (though when I say sell, the british gov will pay to get rid of them !! )

From the guy who pathetically tried to reassure unionists about the reality of his fantasy island and continues to bulldoze and abuse anyone who disgrees agrees with him, it's a complete joke.  Enjoy you life of torment, rage and aggitation. Bye.

Have you ever been to a match Olaf, what county are you from?

He is from Belfast.  It's not a county even though the county should take the name from the main town according to some. 

It's ironic that in Lynchboy's theory on towns and counties that is only actually taken up by the Orange Order, they have a Belfast County   

Undeniably, a Klu Klux Klanner would have the right to consider themselves American.

Meaning?

[f you are proud to be Irish then how could you be British first and foremost.]

You are of purest Gaelic blood?

I imagine not, who is? Whatever blood I have and whereever those ancestors came from, I now identify with Ireland and not the places they came from.

I am British first and foremost with the distinction of beng born in Ireland from a line of people born in Ireland dating back hundreds of years and am proud to be Irish.

Stop talking nonsense, if you are proud to be Irish then how could you be British first and foremost.

Because they are not mutually exclusive identities and you can therefore value one identity as having more significance to you than the other should you so wish.

Mutually exclusive identities-Such shite. Proud to be Irish but British first and foremost. Confused or what?

The Good Friday Agreement is oft quoted in these parts.

It explicitly provides for what you describe as the brown stuff , should the person feel so inclined.  I think you'll find about 1 million of these type of persons  knocking about Northern Ireland.

This principle was accepted by the vast majority of Nationalist people in Northern Ireland at the time who presumably didn't find it all that confusing .

Dress it up anyway you want but behind it all the Million? people you refer to are British. Irish people don't believe in the Union and don't want the Union.Simple.

I'm not sure if that is just arrogance or plain old blinkered bigotry.

I think going on your views on the Nelson thread,You would be the best judge if whats bigotry. Wise Up will ya,times have changed and the days of Double Standards can no longer be tolerated. Unionists cannot have their cake and eat it.

Sorry pal but you can't cling to some outdated inaccurate stereotype to bluster this away.  Things have indeed moved on and only a complete bigot or fascist would come out with a view that says how people should think for them to be considered Irish. 

[f you are proud to be Irish then how could you be British first and foremost.]

You are of purest Gaelic blood?

I imagine not, who is? Whatever blood I have and whereever those ancestors came from, I now identify with Ireland and not the places they came from.

I am British first and foremost with the distinction of beng born in Ireland from a line of people born in Ireland dating back hundreds of years and am proud to be Irish.

Stop talking nonsense, if you are proud to be Irish then how could you be British first and foremost.

Because they are not mutually exclusive identities and you can therefore value one identity as having more significance to you than the other should you so wish.

Mutually exclusive identities-Such shite. Proud to be Irish but British first and foremost. Confused or what?

The Good Friday Agreement is oft quoted in these parts.

It explicitly provides for what you describe as the brown stuff , should the person feel so inclined.  I think you'll find about 1 million of these type of persons  knocking about Northern Ireland.

This principle was accepted by the vast majority of Nationalist people in Northern Ireland at the time who presumably didn't find it all that confusing .

Dress it up anyway you want but behind it all the Million? people you refer to are British. Irish people don't believe in the Union and don't want the Union.Simple.

I'm not sure if that is just arrogance or plain old blinkered bigotry.

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Can't get into Dean Koontz but those who like him, love his stuff.

[f you are proud to be Irish then how could you be British first and foremost.]

You are of purest Gaelic blood?

I imagine not, who is? Whatever blood I have and whereever those ancestors came from, I now identify with Ireland and not the places they came from.

I am British first and foremost with the distinction of beng born in Ireland from a line of people born in Ireland dating back hundreds of years and am proud to be Irish.

Stop talking nonsense, if you are proud to be Irish then how could you be British first and foremost.

Because they are not mutually exclusive identities and you can therefore value one identity as having more significance to you than the other should you so wish.

Mutually exclusive identities-Such shite. Proud to be Irish but British first and foremost. Confused or what?

Ireland is a British isle whether you like it or not and you don't have to be born on the island of Great Britain to be British.  The President of the Republic of Ireland is also on  record as stating that the two aren't mutually exclusive.

Even more confused than I thought. You are British,and fair play to ya. British people have a long ancestral trail on the Island of Ireland. Irish however,You are not.

A case of 'people who think like me got here before you so we're the real Irish'? Who was here before you? Talk about a dinasauric view of identity.  I thought unionists were meant to be the backward lookers.

Ireland is a British isle whether you like it or not and you don't have to be born on the island of Great Britain to be British.

Just as you don't have to be born in Germany to be German.

Ireland will be around when Londonderry, the OO and the whole sad sick sectarian NI province will be viewed in the same light as East Germany and Biafra.

Rightyho.

Meanwhile, I hope you and your family make the most of your life.

Your right there, I can't see full Irish Independence for at least another 25 years at the earliest.

In your dreams will it be fully independent or actually dependent on an even bigger place than the UK ie Europe?

Ireland is a British isle whether you like it or not and you don't have to be born on the island of Great Britain to be British.

Just as you don't have to be born in Germany to be German.

Ireland will be around when Londonderry, the OO and the whole sad sick sectarian NI province will be viewed in the same light as East Germany and Biafra.

Rightyho.

Meanwhile, I hope you and your family make the most of your life.

That President only has jurisdiction over part of Ireland so that term is inaccurate regardless of what she likes to call herself. 

Tell me, will Ireland be around as long as Hibernia 

I'd like someone like O'Leary to get stuck into the public sector north or the border.  I have a vested interested in reducing waste in the government and the public sector just won't do it.  Taxes go up and the public spending deficits increase. £1 trillion defecit in the UK public sector pensions!  £1 feckin trillion deficit not liability!! Don't know much about the south but if it's anything like NI then O'Leary would be the sort of guy needed to sort it out down there.  It might not be pretty but it would need ruthless action to put it back on track. Think he's a right bastard mind and hear he's hard to work for. 

[f you are proud to be Irish then how could you be British first and foremost.]

You are of purest Gaelic blood?

I imagine not, who is? Whatever blood I have and whereever those ancestors came from, I now identify with Ireland and not the places they came from.

I am British first and foremost with the distinction of beng born in Ireland from a line of people born in Ireland dating back hundreds of years and am proud to be Irish.

Stop talking nonsense, if you are proud to be Irish then how could you be British first and foremost.

Because they are not mutually exclusive identities and you can therefore value one identity as having more significance to you than the other should you so wish.

Mutually exclusive identities-Such shite. Proud to be Irish but British first and foremost. Confused or what?

Ireland is a British isle whether you like it or not and you don't have to be born on the island of Great Britain to be British.  The President of the Republic of Ireland is also on  record as stating that the two aren't mutually exclusive. 

Stop talking nonsense, if you are proud to be Irish then how could you be British first and foremost.

I belive that British and Irish are identities not exclusive of each other.  I am British and Irish. 

We're still here  and will be till the end of time.

I'd be fairly certain of that too. We Irish people will indeed be here 

Come on Roger admit it ye all want to be Irish not British at all, ye just like all that pomp and ceremony. Question Roger when Britain becomes a Republic will they have to change the name to the United Republic? Sure ye might as well join us at that stage.

I am British first and foremost with the distinction of beng born in Ireland from a line of people born in Ireland dating back hundreds of years and am proud to be Irish. For me, Ireland is simply a region of the UK.  I support the monarchy and do not see the UK being a Republic in my life time.  If your hypothesy came true, there would be better merit in the Republic of Ireland joining a United Republic of Britain and Northern Ireland, than Northern Ireland joining the Republic of Ireland.   

Is that my forefathers or your's or both on both sides?

It may have been your forefathers, but it wasn't mine as you British didn't manage to massacre my ancestors, which is fortunate otherwise I wouldn't be here.

You are of purest Gaelic blood?

Of course the Gaels arrived here to an uninhabited land didn't they and no other people here apart from Gaels can be "Irish"?