Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[Rossfan]

More War Crimes

https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-41333062.html

[marty34]

The Zionists have had free license to do anything they want in Gaza for the past 4/5 months. Not they that hadn't before but you'd wonder how and when this will end?

I can't see them stopping until Gaza is flattened and all the Palestinians have been made homeless (ethnic cleansed).

Very sad to see the disconnect between ordinary people and their governments on this issue. 

[Keyser soze]

Unbelievable the contortions the UK parliament went through last night to avoid saying they support a ceasefire, including the Speaker breaking with long held convention to allow an opposition amendment to another opposition party's early day motion. It appears Hoyle succumbed to blackmail from Starmer in order to keep his job as Speaker. In any normal political system both would lose their jobs.

What it also shows is that the influence the Israelis have over western political parties is awesome, it appears they can literally get them to do anything they want as most British politicians present stance flies in the face of reason and decency.

[imtommygunn]

There is no decency in british politics at all. It is all just lies and corruption.

Yeah the influence Israel wield is unbelievable. The world will probably call for a ceasefire when they've hit their end goal 

[johnnycool]

The Zionists have had free license to do anything they want in Gaza for the past 4/5 months. Not they that hadn't before but you'd wonder how and when this will end?

I can't see them stopping until Gaza is flattened and all the Palestinians have been made homeless (ethnic cleansed).

Very sad to see the disconnect between ordinary people and their governments on this issue. 

Months? Decades you mean.
They've been doing what they're currently doing for decades, only on a smaller, more intermittent scale.

[Itchy]

Unbelievable the contortions the UK parliament went through last night to avoid saying they support a ceasefire, including the Speaker breaking with long held convention to allow an opposition amendment to another opposition party's early day motion. It appears Hoyle succumbed to blackmail from Starmer in order to keep his job as Speaker. In any normal political system both would lose their jobs.

What it also shows is that the influence the Israelis have over western political parties is awesome, it appears they can literally get them to do anything they want as most British politicians present stance flies in the face of reason and decency.

Lad, don't look to the Brits for moral guidance. They are the greatest cnuts of them all.

[marty34]

The Zionists have had free license to do anything they want in Gaza for the past 4/5 months. Not they that hadn't before but you'd wonder how and when this will end?

I can't see them stopping until Gaza is flattened and all the Palestinians have been made homeless (ethnic cleansed).

Very sad to see the disconnect between ordinary people and their governments on this issue. 

Months? Decades you mean.
They've been doing what they're currently doing for decades, only on a smaller, more intermittent scale.

Correct but all I'm saying is that the world focus has been on them this past few months - with all the focus on their ethnic cleansing - and it hasn't made a bit of difference.

[johnnycool]

The Zionists have had free license to do anything they want in Gaza for the past 4/5 months. Not they that hadn't before but you'd wonder how and when this will end?

I can't see them stopping until Gaza is flattened and all the Palestinians have been made homeless (ethnic cleansed).

Very sad to see the disconnect between ordinary people and their governments on this issue. 

Months? Decades you mean.
They've been doing what they're currently doing for decades, only on a smaller, more intermittent scale.

Correct but all I'm saying is that the world focus has been on them this past few months - with all the focus on their ethnic cleansing - and it hasn't made a bit of difference.

Incorrectly in my opinion as it's interpreted that all was rosy in the garden until those bad Hamas "terrorists", for no apparent reason broke out of their jail and killed, murdered, raped and burned, innocent men, women and children.

Yet it's only coming to light that almost 400 killed that day were IDF personnel and who knows what other innocents were actually killed by the IDF that day.

[armaghniac]

Yet it's only coming to light that almost 400 killed that day were IDF personnel and who knows what other innocents were actually killed by the IDF that day.

If Hamas had killed on IDF personnel and demolished the fence, they would have attracted some measure of international support. Going into houses and killing families and going to a rock concert and rampaging about is not acceptable, even if some military targets were attacked. By the same token, it not acceptable for the Israelis to kill Gaza families even if some Hamas targets were attacked.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

Yet it's only coming to light that almost 400 killed that day were IDF personnel and who knows what other innocents were actually killed by the IDF that day.

If Hamas had killed on IDF personnel and demolished the fence, they would have attracted some measure of international support. Going into houses and killing families and going to a rock concert and rampaging about is not acceptable, even if some military targets were attacked. By the same token, it not acceptable for the Israelis to kill Gaza families even if some Hamas targets were attacked.

So this is the " both sides are as bad as each other" argument, the invaded are on a par with the invaders?

[Truthsayer]

Yet it's only coming to light that almost 400 killed that day were IDF personnel and who knows what other innocents were actually killed by the IDF that day.

If Hamas had killed on IDF personnel and demolished the fence, they would have attracted some measure of international support. Going into houses and killing families and going to a rock concert and rampaging about is not acceptable, even if some military targets were attacked. By the same token, it not acceptable for the Israelis to kill Gaza families even if some Hamas targets were attacked.

The lack of historical context in this post 🤢 Israeli landgrab and murder didn't begin on October 7 last year

[ThomasMullan]

Yet it's only coming to light that almost 400 killed that day were IDF personnel and who knows what other innocents were actually killed by the IDF that day.

If Hamas had killed on IDF personnel and demolished the fence, they would have attracted some measure of international support. Going into houses and killing families and going to a rock concert and rampaging about is not acceptable, even if some military targets were attacked. By the same token, it not acceptable for the Israelis to kill Gaza families even if some Hamas targets were attacked.

So this is the " both sides are as bad as each other" argument, the invaded are on a par with the invaders?

You're referencing Armaghniac's comment from the Ukraine thread I take it. 

Palestinians have every right to resist the Israeli occupation, just as Ukraine has every right to resist the Russian invaders and the occupation of their country. However, I'd be horrified if the Ukrainian army conducted themselves like Hamas did on Oct 7th (or the Israelis in their actions since then).

It is possible to support Palestinians while also condemning Hamas for their atrocities.

[ThomasMullan]

Yet it's only coming to light that almost 400 killed that day were IDF personnel and who knows what other innocents were actually killed by the IDF that day.

If Hamas had killed on IDF personnel and demolished the fence, they would have attracted some measure of international support. Going into houses and killing families and going to a rock concert and rampaging about is not acceptable, even if some military targets were attacked. By the same token, it not acceptable for the Israelis to kill Gaza families even if some Hamas targets were attacked.

The lack of historical context in this post 🤢 Israeli landgrab and murder didn't begin on October 7 last year

Everyone knows that but it still doesn't excuse murder.

[Truthsayer]

Yet it's only coming to light that almost 400 killed that day were IDF personnel and who knows what other innocents were actually killed by the IDF that day.

If Hamas had killed on IDF personnel and demolished the fence, they would have attracted some measure of international support. Going into houses and killing families and going to a rock concert and rampaging about is not acceptable, even if some military targets were attacked. By the same token, it not acceptable for the Israelis to kill Gaza families even if some Hamas targets were attacked.

The lack of historical context in this post 🤢 Israeli landgrab and murder didn't begin on October 7 last year

Everyone knows that but it still doesn't excuse murder.

If you know it mention it... Netenyahu was itching to do this... is like carpet bombing West Belfast after the Birmingham bomb...

[PadraicHenryPearse]

Yet it's only coming to light that almost 400 killed that day were IDF personnel and who knows what other innocents were actually killed by the IDF that day.

If Hamas had killed on IDF personnel and demolished the fence, they would have attracted some measure of international support. Going into houses and killing families and going to a rock concert and rampaging about is not acceptable, even if some military targets were attacked. By the same token, it not acceptable for the Israelis to kill Gaza families even if some Hamas targets were attacked.

So this is the " both sides are as bad as each other" argument, the invaded are on a par with the invaders?

You're referencing Armaghniac's comment from the Ukraine thread I take it. 

Palestinians have every right to resist the Israeli occupation, just as Ukraine has every right to resist the Russian invaders and the occupation of their country. However, I'd be horrified if the Ukrainian army conducted themselves like Hamas did on Oct 7th (or the Israelis in their actions since then).

It is possible to support Palestinians while also condemning Hamas for their atrocities.

that wasn't your response to theskull post when he posted that there are war crimes on both sides of all conflicts...