Brexit.

[Rossfan]

Hard border or else everything going from the 26 Cos to the EU will have to be checked/inspected at either Irish ports or Continental ones.

[HiMucker]

Hard border or else everything going from the 26 Cos to the EU will have to be checked/inspected at either Irish ports or Continental ones.

I would say this is more likely than the Irish Government enforcing a hard border. I think that would be a political catastrophe for FG, and undo all the goodwill Vadradkar and Coveney have gained, particularly in the north.

[Keyser soze]

Surely if Ireland was given special status to trade freely with both Uk and EU, since the Brits don't want NI to have it, that would solve all the border issues. Can't understand why Leo and Co haven't been pushing for this from Day1.

[Walter Cronc]

Surely if Ireland was given special status to trade freely with both Uk and EU, since the Brits DUP don't want NI to have it, that would solve all the border issues. Can't understand why Leo and Co haven't been pushing for this from Day1.

[seafoid]

Hard border or else everything going from the 26 Cos to the EU will have to be checked/inspected at either Irish ports or Continental ones.

I would say this is more likely than the Irish Government enforcing a hard border. I think that would be a political catastrophe for FG, and undo all the goodwill Vadradkar and Coveney have gained, particularly in the north.

the 26 are in the Single market so trade is fluid
Checking stuff leaving Ireland would be nuts and would increase costs
UK stuff will be checked in France . 6 day delays if each check takes 70 seconds
It would be absolute chaos.

No deal would collapse the NI economy especially if the headbangers decide to give the GBP 9bn as a tax cut to their buddies 

[armaghniac]

Irish will be asked to erect hard border by EU. Irish will bend over yet again and erect border.

What do you suggest that they do? Rejoin the UK?

[Tubberman]

Hard border or else everything going from the 26 Cos to the EU will have to be checked/inspected at either Irish ports or Continental ones.

I would say this is more likely than the Irish Government enforcing a hard border. I think that would be a political catastrophe for FG, and undo all the goodwill Vadradkar and Coveney have gained, particularly in the north.

It would be a disaster. It essentially means Ireland would be part of Brexit, leaving the customs union!

[Rudi]

Irish will be asked to erect hard border by EU. Irish will bend over yet again and erect border.

What do you suggest that they do? Rejoin the UK?

Could tell them to foff.

[armaghniac]

Irish will be asked to erect hard border by EU. Irish will bend over yet again and erect border.

What do you suggest that they do? Rejoin the UK?

Could tell them to foff.

So do a UK and tell the EU to foff and do an Irexit? Are you Sammy Wilson?

[seafoid]

If a hard Brexit happens and the NI economy collapses you could have refugees leaving NI
then loyalty to the UK would come under severe pressure
It's a pity Fearon is no longer with us

[Rudi]

Irish will be asked to erect hard border by EU. Irish will bend over yet again and erect border.

What do you suggest that they do? Rejoin the UK?

Could tell them to foff.

So do a UK and tell the EU to foff and do an Irexit? Are you Sammy Wilson?

An Irexit would require a referendum for people in the 26. No I'm not Sammy Wilson.

[Franko]

While EU diplomats have avoided discussing the subject, many privately admit the EU would have no choice but to require Ireland to enforce checks on trade to protect the common border of the single market.Mr Varadkar's spokesman said on Tuesday that retaining an open border "would require very difficult discussions with our EU partners". Working out suitable customs and trade arrangements compatible with our EU membership will require detailed discussion with the commission, while the UK will also need to live up to its responsibilities.

There are really two borders to consider. 1) UK restrictions on people and goods crossing in to the north and 2) EU/Irish restrictions on people and goods crossing in to the south.

Despite our desire to blame the Brits for everything, at least some of the "hard border" will come in to being because of the EU.

Talk about missing the point.  What absolute nonsense this is.

[Franko]

Is that not contrary to the Bi lateral good Friday agreement.  How will the rule of law go there?

Yes.  And this is the point that remainers have made from day 1.

Brexit without some sort of deal is absolutely incompatible with the GFA.

The brexiteers don't care about this though.  They want the backstop removed or time limited and want ROI/EU to trust that they will put a solution in place.  The EU are saying that they can't do that.  Which is unsurprising as the same brexiteers have said repeatedly that they would be willing to walk away from any and all agreements/promises they've previously made in a heartbeat.

[omaghjoe]

The reality is the EU will require a border

It wont be too hard for the Free State government to place the blame on the Brits as it really is their doing.
Fine Gael's core supporters wont really care too much anyway but there would defo be an opportunity for Fianna Fail to exploit the erection of a hard border by FG at the behest of the EU tho it would be a risky enuff move.
More than likely they would try to exploit it by blaming the Brits for it more than FG will do.

[BennyCake]

Irish will be asked to erect hard border by EU. Irish will bend over yet again and erect border.

Their backs must be sore. They've been bending over for decades to either the EU or the Brits. And that lot that's there at the moment especially, a shower of spineless b**tards.