NFL Division 1 2024

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tbrick18

Quote from: JoG2 on February 25, 2024, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on February 25, 2024, 03:42:50 PMDerry were not great there, good to get the win but that performance won't be enough to win many games.

Ref was awful.
I think he got the Rogers black wrong and the penalty and black wrong. Plus numerous other decisions that had me scratching my head.

Galway full strength would have beat us.

Only positive was we managed the win without some key players. Ryan Scullion made a few really good saves but then kicked right down the middle when we were getting cleaned at midfield during the 2nd half.
Mcguigan was very quiet too.
Gilmore deserves a start, I'd rate him above deccan cassidy.
Mckaigue lost at sea too often too.
Hopefully Conor Doherty isn't too badly injured, we'd definitely need him against the dubs.


You're sore on McKaigue. 100% worth his place and has been solid this year. Team leads leaders and he's one of them.

McEvoy has an old experienced head on young shoulders. Nothing phases him.

I'd agree with most on the 2nd black, penalty yes, black card no. Maher on C Doherty was more a black card, dove in and across him to take him out, he was never bending down to actually pick the ball up. Sleeked move


Don't get me wrong, he's the best available option right now with McKinless out, but when he returns I can't see how McKaigue starts ahead of McEvoy or Baker. He's not the player he was - which is simply time catching up on him imo. Not faulting his effort or anything....I just think he's fallen down the pecking order in terms of effectiveness.

tbrick18

Quote from: screenexile on February 25, 2024, 06:42:41 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 25, 2024, 06:32:25 PMDerry will care a lot more than the Dubs. Not that controversial an opinion.

Absolutely not but not sure why the Dubs would lift the intensity this weekend and not next weekend?

Also it's hard to see Derry being as hungry with 6 points on the board difficult to know what to make of next weekend.

I'd hope it's similar to last year with both teams doing the best they can with what's available. Potentially a really good game!

I think Derry will go out to win it. They'll be hungry as Dublin are AI champions, and that's where this group of players see themselves. So long as we are competitive to the end, I wouldn't be too concerned with the result. We're safe now in Div1, anything else is a bonus.
Personally, I'd like to see or main players protected from injury between now and the end of the league. Currently without Lynch, McKinless, and Conor Doherty. That's 3 from our defensive lines and 2/3 of our attacking half back line. We need those guys all in come championship - and can't loss any of the other mainstays. We could cope with 1 or 2 injuries, but going beyond that seriously weakens the bench. In saying that, the depth of the panel this year is much stronger than last year.

Maroon Manc

Forgetting about the diabolical black cards Galways performance was decent enough. Galway though missed a lot in front of the posts, they weren't hail mary shots at the posts either and missed 7 or 8 shots they should be scoring and obviously the goal chance that Niall Daly missed. Joyce will be very disappointed with the 1st and 3rd goals, they got in far too easy.

John Daly was back to his best and signs Finnerty is too although he missed a few he should have scored but was getting himself into scoring positions ands got on plenty of ball. McGrath too did a brilliant job on McGuigan. The likes of Niall Daly & D'Arcy who are much maligned did ok and had good contributions for the lads that are way down the pecking order when everyone is available. Mulkerins & Molloy are really struggling though but both lads are back from serious injuries so are going to need time, O'Conghaile is finding it tough going but like that he's been given plenty of game time for a lad thats still only 20. He'll reap the benefits in the long run.

A must win next week is a must but don't think 5 points will be enough to stay up even if they win. Tyrone beating Mayo puts them in a great position and Galway's last 2 games are Dublin and Kerry.

Even if any of the injured players return their not going to have much impact for the league and as like the Galway posters above I'm concerned how much game time they've missed. Think the draw in Connacht has worked out well with what should be a couple of games before the Connacht Final and then the 3 group games so the new format works out better then the old one, only time will tell though.

oliverkelly

Quote from: trailer on February 26, 2024, 08:50:22 AMSo with 24 games played in Division 1 and host of incidents that "gave the referee a decision to make" we can conclude to  the best of my knowledge Con Kilpatrick was the only player to have been sent off for a clumsy challenge and Tyrone are the only team to concede a penalty and suffer a black card from DOGSO decision?

Has there been any other red cards in Division 1?

Jarlath Burns has his work cut out if he wants to level the playing field.

Donie Smith got sent off for Roscommon.
Conn was sent of for striking i believe and should have got the line again at the weekend for the same thing.

An Watcher

No he was sent off for running into a man which was soft in the extreme. 
You are correct though, he should have went for striking at the weekend

tbrick18

Quote from: An Watcher on February 26, 2024, 11:07:35 AMNo he was sent off for running into a man which was soft in the extreme. 
You are correct though, he should have went for striking at the weekend

In what was a poor ref display all in, that decision was just weird.
So the ref saw what happened, stopped play and went straight to them, and issued a yellow for a clear red car offence.
Kilpatrick was a very lucky boy.

seafoid

Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 26, 2024, 10:24:37 AMForgetting about the diabolical black cards Galways performance was decent enough. Galway though missed a lot in front of the posts, they weren't hail mary shots at the posts either and missed 7 or 8 shots they should be scoring and obviously the goal chance that Niall Daly missed. Joyce will be very disappointed with the 1st and 3rd goals, they got in far too easy.

John Daly was back to his best and signs Finnerty is too although he missed a few he should have scored but was getting himself into scoring positions ands got on plenty of ball. McGrath too did a brilliant job on McGuigan. The likes of Niall Daly & D'Arcy who are much maligned did ok and had good contributions for the lads that are way down the pecking order when everyone is available. Mulkerins & Molloy are really struggling though but both lads are back from serious injuries so are going to need time, O'Conghaile is finding it tough going but like that he's been given plenty of game time for a lad thats still only 20. He'll reap the benefits in the long run.

A must win next week is a must but don't think 5 points will be enough to stay up even if they win. Tyrone beating Mayo puts them in a great position and Galway's last 2 games are Dublin and Kerry.

Even if any of the injured players return their not going to have much impact for the league and as like the Galway posters above I'm concerned how much game time they've missed. Think the draw in Connacht has worked out well with what should be a couple of games before the Connacht Final and then the 3 group games so the new format works out better then the old one, only time will tell though.
There are 7 teams within 2 points of each other and max 24 points available.
2 teams have to go down. It is impossible to predict at this stage.   
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

tonto1888

Quote from: An Watcher on February 26, 2024, 11:07:35 AMNo he was sent off for running into a man which was soft in the extreme. 
You are correct though, he should have went for striking at the weekend

the ref put that in his report did he?
Red card issued as man ran into another.
I doubt that

Wildweasel74

Rewatching the Galway game there, Galway 1st black probably a yellow, but the tackle on Rodgers the lad grabbed him round the neck dragging him to the ground, can't see the complaints. One thing I notice at football, Players can't tackle at all, it's a slapping session with both hands. Arm dragging, pulling, practically a foul every time, If a ref enforced the rules it be a free every 30 secs. A slight tug on a Jersey ref give a free, but 3 men round you ,slapping with 6 hands all at once ain't a free. They never enforce pushes in the back which Donegal do now constantly at ever contact.

Wildweasel74

Derry last goal probably a square ball, but the Umpire raised his flag super quick.

Blowitupref

The black for Molloy in the Galway v Derry game was debatable. Trips on purpose are a black card offence not sure can you say that about Molloys tackle/foul.

Not sure how the ref deemed it as a clear goal scoring opportunity when there was a covering defender and the Derry player was kicking for a point. Galway with half of their team out injured should draw plenty of encouragement to be as competitive as they were against the form team in division 1.


League final could well be the repeat of Division 2 last year. The relegation battle is intriguing with five teams still seeking points to avoid the trap door.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

tyrone08

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 26, 2024, 01:24:40 PMDerry last goal probably a square ball, but the Umpire raised his flag super quick.

He was clearly in the square. Thought it strange that no one questioned it

screenexile

Quote from: tyrone08 on February 26, 2024, 05:18:34 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 26, 2024, 01:24:40 PMDerry last goal probably a square ball, but the Umpire raised his flag super quick.

He was clearly in the square. Thought it strange that no one questioned it

He definitely wasn't!

https://x.com/sporttg4/status/1761770141140816350?s=46&t=phQ2HHkWD0UVsLqr_FKpag

J70

Quote from: screenexile on February 26, 2024, 05:23:28 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on February 26, 2024, 05:18:34 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 26, 2024, 01:24:40 PMDerry last goal probably a square ball, but the Umpire raised his flag super quick.

He was clearly in the square. Thought it strange that no one questioned it

He definitely wasn't!

https://x.com/sporttg4/status/1761770141140816350?s=46&t=phQ2HHkWD0UVsLqr_FKpag

Looks pretty clear that he's outside the square when the ball leaves the other player's hands.

It wasn't a set play, so he's allowed to enter the square before the ball does.

straightred

Quote from: J70 on February 26, 2024, 05:34:23 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 26, 2024, 05:23:28 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on February 26, 2024, 05:18:34 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 26, 2024, 01:24:40 PMDerry last goal probably a square ball, but the Umpire raised his flag super quick.

He was clearly in the square. Thought it strange that no one questioned it
Speaking of dodgy goals surely Roscommon's shouldn't have stood. Keeper had the ball in his hands and the forward pushed him over the line ? Didnt matter to the result but it was a free out all day

He definitely wasn't!

https://x.com/sporttg4/status/1761770141140816350?s=46&t=phQ2HHkWD0UVsLqr_FKpag

Looks pretty clear that he's outside the square when the ball leaves the other player's hands.

It wasn't a set play, so he's allowed to enter the square before the ball does.