A chance to get the show back on the road for both counties.
Mayo gave a better performance against Galway than Derry did against Tyrone, but have Mayo the hunger for another trek through the back door?
Given Tyrone's performance against Donegal yesterday, was Derry's performance as bad as it seemed at the time?
Have Mayo ever beaten Derry in Championship? No. Will they beat them in 2 weeks time? They should.
Revenge for 2007 hopefully
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 19, 2017, 09:50:34 AM
Revenge for 2007 hopefully
That was a depressing day, and a sad end to Ciaran McDonald's time in a Mayo jersey. Brought on when the game was lost.
Lads, yous have nothing to worry about. We were rightly relegated to Div3 this year.
We barely have a panel with players seemingly dropping out every other week.
Derry are currently a mess at this level and I dont think we've been as poor in 30 years. I'd say Mayo will win this at a canter unfortunately.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 19, 2017, 09:57:55 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 19, 2017, 09:50:34 AM
Revenge for 2007 hopefully
That was a depressing day, and a sad end to Ciaran McDonald's time in a Mayo jersey. Brought on when the game was lost.
in my time supporting mayo i think that was the worst day ever.
derry were just playing with mayo and must have been no great shakes themselves at the time if they were in the Qualifier.
seems more than 10 years ago, clarke and andy the only survivors . so much for P Hanley being the Choosen one
ROUND 2: Derry 2-13 Mayo 1-6 (Celtic Park, Derry, 14/7/2007). MAYO: D Clarke, T Cunniffe, L O'Malley, T Howley; D Heaney, D Kilcullen, T Mortimer (0-1); P Harte, D Brady; BJ Padden, P Hanley (0-1), A Dillon; C Mortimer (0-1, free), B Moran (1-2), A Moran (0-1). Subs: A Kilcoyne (0-1) for Dillon (half-time), A Campbell for Kilcoyne (43 mins, inj), K O'Neill for Padden (51 mins), P Gardiner for Cunniffe (55 mins), C McDonald for Campbell (58 mins). Blood sub: R McGarrity for D Brady (69 mins).
This will turn into a massacre. Mayo will need to fine tune after the Galway debacle and Doire are just plain useless.
Derry might be better in the qfs. Mayo will need their mojo.
Quote from: seafoid on June 19, 2017, 01:24:44 PM
Derry might be better in the qfs. Mayo will need their mojo.
Nah we had an easy game in Fraher Field and managed to kick 16 or 17 wides. Mayo would have put up a cricket score against Waterford.
Quote from: thebuzz on June 19, 2017, 01:57:18 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 19, 2017, 01:24:44 PM
Derry might be better in the qfs. Mayo will need their mojo.
Nah we had an easy game in Fraher Field and managed to kick 16 or 17 wides. Mayo would have put up a cricket score against Waterford.
In cricket they count wides so you have a point there.
A home town game again in the qualifiers for Mayo. There will be a partisan Mayo attendance of 12k plus. Will there be 1,500 Derry supporters? Will there be 500 Derry supporters? Hard to know! Anyway home games take a lot of work off the backroom team of the hosts. The hosts can concentrate on football and forget about other annoying logistics.
One would expect an out of sorts Mayo to win. There's not much evidence to say otherwise.
Glad Mayo did not meet Sligo again. It was one tie that would not have grabbed the imagination for both sides!
Is it not the county board and backroom teams concern to smooth out logistics. it's the managers job to focus on the game.
Mayo still had the winning of the game against Galway but Rochford doesn't seem to have found a settled 15 - with O'Shea in and out of the team.
Quote from: TheImpactCode on June 20, 2017, 09:02:56 AM
Is it not the county board and backroom teams concern to smooth out logistics. it's the managers job to focus on the game.
Mayo still had the winning of the game against Galway but Rochford doesn't seem to have found a settled 15 - with O'Shea in and out of the team.
The O'Shea bit can't be helped for the moment anyway. Apparently he's struggling with a groin injury. We need him to get that sorted if we're to have any hope this summer. If that means resting him then that's what should be done.
Just had a look at the Derry team from that fixture in 2007.
Derry: B Gillis, M McGoldrick, K McCloy, G O'Kane, L Hinphey, SM Lockhart, F McEldowney, F Doherty, J Conway (0-1), B McGoldrick (0-1), P Murphy, E Muldoon (1-1), C Devlin (1-1), P Bradley (0-5, 2 frees), C Gilligan (0-3, 2 frees).
Subs: M Lynch for McGoldrick (29 mins), R Wilkinson (0-1) for Murphy (56), Patsy Bradley for Conway (60), P O'Hea for Hinphey (67), G Donaghy for Gilligan (70)
and then compared it to the team that beat Waterford on Saturday
Derry: B McKinless, N Keenan 0-1, B Rogers, K McKaigue, C McFaul 0-2, C McWilliams, D Heavron 1-1, C McAtamney, C McKaigue 0-1, R Bell 0-2, N O'Loughlin 0-2(1f), M McEvoy, D Tallon 0-3, J Kielt 0-3(2fs), B Heron.
Subs: E McGuckin 0-1 for O'Loughlin (ht), M Lynch 0-1 for Bell (45), S McGuigan for Kielt (48), N Forrester for McFaul (55), C Nevin for McAtamney (60), G O'Neill for Heron (64), C Nevin for McAtamney (68)
4 All Stars in the 2007, 0 in the 2017 team.
Mayo are 1/5 with the bookies, and Derry 4/1.
If Mayo have any design on playing football in August and September, they should win this one pulling up.
Quote from: Estimator on June 20, 2017, 11:21:47 AM
Just had a look at the Derry team from that fixture in 2007.
Derry: B Gillis, M McGoldrick, K McCloy, G O'Kane, L Hinphey, SM Lockhart, F McEldowney, F Doherty, J Conway (0-1), B McGoldrick (0-1), P Murphy, E Muldoon (1-1), C Devlin (1-1), P Bradley (0-5, 2 frees), C Gilligan (0-3, 2 frees).
Subs: M Lynch for McGoldrick (29 mins), R Wilkinson (0-1) for Murphy (56), Patsy Bradley for Conway (60), P O'Hea for Hinphey (67), G Donaghy for Gilligan (70)
and then compared it to the team that beat Waterford on Saturday
Derry: B McKinless, N Keenan 0-1, B Rogers, K McKaigue, C McFaul 0-2, C McWilliams, D Heavron 1-1, C McAtamney, C McKaigue 0-1, R Bell 0-2, N O'Loughlin 0-2(1f), M McEvoy, D Tallon 0-3, J Kielt 0-3(2fs), B Heron.
Subs: E McGuckin 0-1 for O'Loughlin (ht), M Lynch 0-1 for Bell (45), S McGuigan for Kielt (48), N Forrester for McFaul (55), C Nevin for McAtamney (60), G O'Neill for Heron (64), C Nevin for McAtamney (68)
4 All Stars in the 2007, 0 in the 2017 team.
Mayo are 1/5 with the bookies, and Derry 4/1.
If Mayo have any design on playing football in August and September, they should win this one pulling up.
I remember that game well. We had a good year that year. Collie Devlin, P Bradley, Gilligan, Muldoon and Murphy made a formidable forward line. I recall Brolly getting in hot water for how he described McGoldrick's man marking job of Conor Mortimer and I remember Lynch doing a good job on Trevor when he came on. Muldoon scored a beautiful lobbed goal and O'Hea set up Devlin with a long ball for his goal late on I think.
That was the same year we stood in the rain in Casement Park through a hurling game only for the football to be called of, and the year of the "Clones 500" against Armagh. The wheels came of at half time against Dublin in Croke Park. Eoin Bradley (having rejoined the panel) came on for an injured Murphy at half time and missed a few goal chances and had a few poor long range efforts and we were denied a penalty when Devlin was emptied of the ball.
There hasn't been a year like that since!
Minors got to the final that year also.
Quote from: Ballaghman on June 20, 2017, 10:09:50 AM
Quote from: TheImpactCode on June 20, 2017, 09:02:56 AM
Is it not the county board and backroom teams concern to smooth out logistics. it's the managers job to focus on the game.
Mayo still had the winning of the game against Galway but Rochford doesn't seem to have found a settled 15 - with O'Shea in and out of the team.
The O'Shea bit can't be helped for the moment anyway. Apparently he's struggling with a groin injury. We need him to get that sorted if we're to have any hope this summer. If that means resting him then that's what should be done.
does anyone really believe that . Ive no Idea whats really going on but its one thing to be able to play 20 minute with a groin injury one day but to be in the same position 3 weeks later means one of 2 things a. a more serious injury or a smoke screen
Saturday 1 July
5pm in Castlebar
If Mayo are to make the quarter finals then this is the first of 4 games over 5 weekends, Rochford is going to have to look after some of the older lads. Was it the same last year?
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 20, 2017, 05:51:45 PM
If Mayo are to make the quarter finals then this is the first of 4 games over 5 weekends, Rochford is going to have to look after some of the older lads. Was it the same last year?
Yes! Media labelled us as Lackadaisical in our aproach last year. Especially Spillane (who never played 2 championship games in a month in all his years as an intercounty player!) You can't go flat out in these games.
Quote from: rosnarun on June 20, 2017, 02:42:53 PM
Quote from: Ballaghman on June 20, 2017, 10:09:50 AM
Quote from: TheImpactCode on June 20, 2017, 09:02:56 AM
Is it not the county board and backroom teams concern to smooth out logistics. it's the managers job to focus on the game.
Mayo still had the winning of the game against Galway but Rochford doesn't seem to have found a settled 15 - with O'Shea in and out of the team.
The O'Shea bit can't be helped for the moment anyway. Apparently he's struggling with a groin injury. We need him to get that sorted if we're to have any hope this summer. If that means resting him then that's what should be done.
does anyone really believe that . Ive no Idea whats really going on but its one thing to be able to play 20 minute with a groin injury one day but to be in the same position 3 weeks later means one of 2 things a. a more serious injury or a smoke screen
I'm not 100% Ros but that's the word. If it's a smokescreen then the local papers are in on it too. Apparently he wasn't moving well at all for Breaffy on Saturday. If that's the case then the last thing he needed was 60 mins of club action but at the same time he needs to keep his fitness up. It's a tough one to manage. Does anyone have any insight as to whether it's a groin injury or not? I suppose I'm taking it at face value that's all.
Quote from: TheImpactCode on June 20, 2017, 02:58:00 PM
Saturday 1 July
5pm in Castlebar
€80 return on the train from Heuston. Might have to drive.
Any of you Mayo folk have any pointers for a good night out in Castlebar?
Match will be shite.
Be Mayo by 7 or 8 if we are lucky, Derry going very bad with about 10 better palyers in the county not playing who would have a good chance of starting, somebody said worst Derry team in 30 years, hope not we won an ulster title 30 yrs ago. I say its the worst Derry team since about of 79 - 82 or before the early 70`s, Cant even get the die hards to go to this game with me
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 20, 2017, 09:58:43 PM
Quote from: TheImpactCode on June 20, 2017, 02:58:00 PM
Saturday 1 July
5pm in Castlebar
€80 return on the train from Heuston. Might have to drive.
Any of you Mayo folk have any pointers for a good night out in Castlebar?
Match will be shite.
Can you pass as a child or as an OAP?
Quote from: Syferus on June 20, 2017, 10:01:01 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 20, 2017, 09:58:43 PM
Quote from: TheImpactCode on June 20, 2017, 02:58:00 PM
Saturday 1 July
5pm in Castlebar
€80 return on the train from Heuston. Might have to drive.
Any of you Mayo folk have any pointers for a good night out in Castlebar?
Match will be shite.
Can you pass as a child or as an OAP?
For the train or the night out?
Quote from: Ballaghman on June 20, 2017, 09:39:56 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 20, 2017, 02:42:53 PM
Quote from: Ballaghman on June 20, 2017, 10:09:50 AM
Quote from: TheImpactCode on June 20, 2017, 09:02:56 AM
Is it not the county board and backroom teams concern to smooth out logistics. it's the managers job to focus on the game.
Mayo still had the winning of the game against Galway but Rochford doesn't seem to have found a settled 15 - with O'Shea in and out of the team.
The O'Shea bit can't be helped for the moment anyway. Apparently he's struggling with a groin injury. We need him to get that sorted if we're to have any hope this summer. If that means resting him then that's what should be done.
does anyone really believe that . Ive no Idea whats really going on but its one thing to be able to play 20 minute with a groin injury one day but to be in the same position 3 weeks later means one of 2 things a. a more serious injury or a smoke screen
I'm not 100% Ros but that's the word. If it's a smokescreen then the local papers are in on it too. Apparently he wasn't moving well at all for Breaffy on Saturday. If that's the case then the last thing he needed was 60 mins of club action but at the same time he needs to keep his fitness up. It's a tough one to manage. Does anyone have any insight as to whether it's a groin injury or not? I suppose I'm taking it at face value that's all.
O'Shea is carrying an injury. Roachford wanted to rest him for the Galway game.
The groin is a funny one. I had it myself.
The medics are doing right by O'Shea and building up his intensity levels slowly. 20 mins again the next day is all we will see of him then. Hard to understand though that he'd be played in CF the last day. With a groin injury he should be in a position where he has to kick less.
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 20, 2017, 09:58:43 PM
Quote from: TheImpactCode on June 20, 2017, 02:58:00 PM
Saturday 1 July
5pm in Castlebar
€80 return on the train from Heuston. Might have to drive.
Any of you Mayo folk have any pointers for a good night out in Castlebar?
Match will be shite.
It's about half that price if you book online irishrail.ie
Quote from: highorlow on June 21, 2017, 12:04:21 AM
The groin is a funny one. I had it myself.
The medics are doing right by O'Shea and building up his intensity levels slowly. 20 mins again the next day is all we will see of him then. Hard to understand though that he'd be played in CF the last day. With a groin injury he should be in a position where he has to kick less.
But why did he play the whole match for his club at the weekend? Sounds like the injury hindered his performance.
Quote from: highorlow on June 21, 2017, 12:04:21 AM
The groin is a funny one. I had it myself.
The medics are doing right by O'Shea and building up his intensity levels slowly. 20 mins again the next day is all we will see of him then. Hard to understand though that he'd be played in CF the last day. With a groin injury he should be in a position where he has to kick less.
would he not be better to have surgery and just hope mayo are still in it by the time he returns. probably too late now but before the sligo game would seem like to have been an ideal time.
as it is its seems disruptive with Cynics like myself look for the Real Story
Quote from: rosnarun on June 22, 2017, 11:22:49 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 21, 2017, 12:04:21 AM
The groin is a funny one. I had it myself.
The medics are doing right by O'Shea and building up his intensity levels slowly. 20 mins again the next day is all we will see of him then. Hard to understand though that he'd be played in CF the last day. With a groin injury he should be in a position where he has to kick less.
would he not be better to have surgery and just hope mayo are still in it by the time he returns. probably too late now but before the sligo game would seem like to have been an ideal time.
as it is its seems disruptive with Cynics like myself look for the Real Story
Majority of groin injuries injuries are treated non surgically now....apart from hernia/tear in the abdominal wall which do require surgery. Owing to fact that he hasn't undergone surgery, I would assume it's the former rather than the latter type of groin injury.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 21, 2017, 10:21:35 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 21, 2017, 12:04:21 AM
The groin is a funny one. I had it myself.
The medics are doing right by O'Shea and building up his intensity levels slowly. 20 mins again the next day is all we will see of him then. Hard to understand though that he'd be played in CF the last day. With a groin injury he should be in a position where he has to kick less.
But why did he play the whole match for his club at the weekend? Sounds like the injury hindered his performance.
That's the bit I find strange/worrying. If he only had 20 minutes in him against Galway then how did he play 60 mins the next week if his groin is at him. Still you'd have to assume he had the green light from the county to play the club game. Maybe as Highorlow said, they're keen to build up the intensity now and the groin is on the mend.
This is the game where OShea should rest - Derry wont present any serious challenge
Quote from: westbound on June 21, 2017, 10:16:01 AM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 20, 2017, 09:58:43 PM
Quote from: TheImpactCode on June 20, 2017, 02:58:00 PM
Saturday 1 July
5pm in Castlebar
€80 return on the train from Heuston. Might have to drive.
Any of you Mayo folk have any pointers for a good night out in Castlebar?
Match will be shite.
It's about half that price if you book online irishrail.ie
It is indeed, slightly less than half that. Went to book it for myself and a mate, realised it coincided with the wedding anniversary. Any good shops in Castlebar?
Keegan, Caff, Barrett might not start acvording to WJBlog, Higgins definitely won't. It could be closer than people think. By the way, how is Barrett ALWAYS picking up at least one knock a year?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 27, 2017, 11:51:55 AM
Keegan, Caff, Barrett might not start acvording to WJBlog, Higgins definitely won't. It could be closer than people think. By the way, how is Barrett ALWAYS picking up at least one knock a year?
Some players are like that - I'd say every club in Ireland has at least one lad who spends more time on the physios table than on the pitch.
If those injuries rule out those three, I'd go with
Clarke
Harrison Vaughan Newcombe/O'donoghue
Mcloughlin
Duran Coen Boyle
SOS Parsons
Boland DOC Nally
COC Kirby
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 27, 2017, 11:54:11 PM
If those injuries rule out those three, I'd go with
Clarke
Harrison Vaughan Newcombe/O'donoghue
Mcloughlin
Duran Coen Boyle
SOS Parsons
Boland DOC Nally
COC Kirby
O'Donoghue is gone to the States for the summer I think. Somebody told me himself, Hall and Reape were to head off after the last round of the club championship.
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 27, 2017, 11:54:11 PM
If those injuries rule out those three, I'd go with
Clarke
Harrison Vaughan Newcombe/O'donoghue
Mcloughlin
Duran Coen Boyle
SOS Parsons
Boland DOC Nally
COC Kirby
That's the sort of Mayo side that could lose to Derry.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 28, 2017, 12:51:19 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 27, 2017, 11:54:11 PM
If those injuries rule out those three, I'd go with
Clarke
Harrison Vaughan Newcombe/O'donoghue
Mcloughlin
Duran Coen Boyle
SOS Parsons
Boland DOC Nally
COC Kirby
O'Donoghue is gone to the States for the summer I think. Somebody told me himself, Hall and Reape were to head off after the last round of the club championship.
Don't think O'Donoghue is gone, he's part of the main squad - not the "development panel". There was a mass exodus of many young club players in the county after the last round of club championship.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 27, 2017, 11:51:55 AM
Keegan, Caff, Barrett might not start acvording to WJBlog, Higgins definitely won't. It could be closer than people think. By the way, how is Barrett ALWAYS picking up at least one knock a year?
I think we will be ok at the back Farr even without the players you mention. We should have enough cover but it will mean that am am wont be able to play as many defenders in the forward line
has caolan Crowe got any run out this year at all . hes listed as a sub almost every game and even to start a few of them but I dont ever remember him coming on
Quote from: rosnarun on June 28, 2017, 10:29:46 AM
has caolan Crowe got any run out this year at all . hes listed as a sub almost every game and even to start a few of them but I dont ever remember him coming on
I remember he came on in Ballina against Sligo IT Ros but he wasn't involved in any of the national league games. We might see him this weekend though if all the stories of injuries are true.
I listened to a bit of the Mayo news podcast, I've heard it before and always found Rob Murphy to be very fair and impartial. In fairness the lads on this weeks were good and it was Martin Carney who was the only one talking a bit of nonsense.
Derry are really going to have to produce a performance out of nowhere to give Mayo a game, throughout the league and the game against Tyrone they've shown nothing to suggest their capable of putting a performance together. They did well in the qualifiers last year beating Louth, Meath & Cavan along the way but Mayo would have to be extremely complacent for Derry to have any chance.
There was no comparison in Mayo's lacklustre display against Galway from last year to this years, Mayo's biggest concern is 4 games over 5 weekends with a potential for the 4th game to be against Kerry.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 28, 2017, 12:29:37 PM
I listened to a bit of the Mayo news podcast, I've heard it before and always found Rob Murphy to be very fair and impartial. In fairness the lads on this weeks were good and it was Martin Carney who was the only one talking a bit of nonsense.
Derry are really going to have to produce a performance out of nowhere to give Mayo a game, throughout the league and the game against Tyrone they've shown nothing to suggest their capable of putting a performance together. They did well in the qualifiers last year beating Louth, Meath & Cavan along the way but Mayo would have to be extremely complacent for Derry to have any chance.
There was no comparison in Mayo's lacklustre display against Galway from last year to this years, Mayo's biggest concern is 4 games over 5 weekends with a potential for the 4th game to be against Kerry.
fairly crap analysis. even with out Willie joe or what ever he calls himself. Very much 'last game' analysts memories like goldfish. I thought it was hilarious when they were describing that mayo had not played well for 2 year . except for the allIreland final and the replay and none of them saw the Irony
Quote from: rosnarun on June 28, 2017, 03:46:09 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 28, 2017, 12:29:37 PM
I listened to a bit of the Mayo news podcast, I've heard it before and always found Rob Murphy to be very fair and impartial. In fairness the lads on this weeks were good and it was Martin Carney who was the only one talking a bit of nonsense.
Derry are really going to have to produce a performance out of nowhere to give Mayo a game, throughout the league and the game against Tyrone they've shown nothing to suggest their capable of putting a performance together. They did well in the qualifiers last year beating Louth, Meath & Cavan along the way but Mayo would have to be extremely complacent for Derry to have any chance.
There was no comparison in Mayo's lacklustre display against Galway from last year to this years, Mayo's biggest concern is 4 games over 5 weekends with a potential for the 4th game to be against Kerry.
fairly crap analysis. even with out Willie joe or what ever he calls himself. Very much 'last game' analysts memories like goldfish. I thought it was hilarious when they were describing that mayo had not played well for 2 year . except for the allIreland final and the replay and none of them saw the Irony
What did you think about the discussion on kickouts and the goalies? I have a feeling we'll be chatting about it again before the summer is out. We need to change what we're doing and go longer. AOS at 11 would be a great option for giving a 3rd option but is Clarke able to do it is the question. I rate Clarke highly as a keeper but good teams are going to target his kickouts more and more. We're absolutely snookered though because Hennelly won't be trusted again. So the way I see it it's a case of hoping Clarke improves and keeps working on the kickouts and try and get our best ball winners into the middle 8.
Kirby would also give us an option to go long when the short kickout isn't on
Thinking this is going to be a short Championship season this year for Mayo. Even though we were in the same boat this time last year there was still and air of being caught on the hop by Galway! This year is different. We were fore-warned with Galway this year. Our Injury list is mounting and it looks like father time is catching up with a few former dependables. The mood in the county is different. Last year there was more defiance going into the back door, this year most don't have the stomach for the longer journey. The feeling is our chance is gone and who could disagree with them? Friends, work Colleagues, Neighbours would be just as happy if Mayo lost on Saturday and gave us a year off from our now annual September misery and let us spend all that Money on a good holiday.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 29, 2017, 01:07:51 PM
Thinking this is going to be a short Championship season this year for Mayo. Even though we were in the same boat this time last year there was still and air of being caught on the hop by Galway! This year is different. We were fore-warned with Galway this year. Our Injury list is mounting and it looks like father time is catching up with a few former dependables. The mood in the county is different. Last year there was more defiance going into the back door, this year most don't have the stomach for the longer journey. The feeling is our chance is gone and who could disagree with them? Friends, work Colleagues, Neighbours would be just as happy if Mayo lost on Saturday and gave us a year off from our now annual September misery and let us spend all that Money on a good holiday.
You should tell all of them to be careful what they wish for.
Six years ago we got beaten by Longford.
I would also remind all of them how this bunch of players have worn the Mayo jersey with great pride for that entire period and that they should be supported and respected accordingly.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 29, 2017, 01:07:51 PM
Thinking this is going to be a short Championship season this year for Mayo. Even though we were in the same boat this time last year there was still and air of being caught on the hop by Galway! This year is different. We were fore-warned with Galway this year. Our Injury list is mounting and it looks like father time is catching up with a few former dependables. The mood in the county is different. Last year there was more defiance going into the back door, this year most don't have the stomach for the longer journey. The feeling is our chance is gone and who could disagree with them? Friends, work Colleagues, Neighbours would be just as happy if Mayo lost on Saturday and gave us a year off from our now annual September misery and let us spend all that Money on a good holiday.
Just as happy my hole, on Saturday we'll bate Derry in revenge for 07 and inflicting Joe brolly on the world.
3rd round, we'll bate Meath for 96, the ref who shall not be named and that bollix o'rourke.
4th round we'll bate cork for 89 & 93.
QF we'll bate Galway for redeveloping salthill amongst other things.
SF we'll bate Kerry for well, loads of years and that bollix Spillane.
In the final, we'll bate Dublin, again for multiple years, all their unfair advantages and that smug bollix Gavin.
Maigh Eo abú
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 29, 2017, 02:21:41 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 29, 2017, 01:07:51 PM
Thinking this is going to be a short Championship season this year for Mayo. Even though we were in the same boat this time last year there was still and air of being caught on the hop by Galway! This year is different. We were fore-warned with Galway this year. Our Injury list is mounting and it looks like father time is catching up with a few former dependables. The mood in the county is different. Last year there was more defiance going into the back door, this year most don't have the stomach for the longer journey. The feeling is our chance is gone and who could disagree with them? Friends, work Colleagues, Neighbours would be just as happy if Mayo lost on Saturday and gave us a year off from our now annual September misery and let us spend all that Money on a good holiday.
Just as happy my hole, on Saturday we'll bate Derry in revenge for 07 and inflicting Joe brolly on the world.
3rd round, we'll bate Meath for 96, the ref who shall not be named and that bollix o'rourke.
4th round we'll bate cork for 89 & 93.
QF we'll bate Galway for redeveloping salthill amongst other things.
SF we'll bate Kerry for well, loads of years and that bollix Spillane.
In the final, we'll bate Dublin, again for multiple years, all their unfair advantages and that smug bollix Gavin.
Maigh Eo abú
My thoughts exactly. Them Parke bucks fierce dour old hoors.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 29, 2017, 01:07:51 PM
Thinking this is going to be a short Championship season this year for Mayo. Even though we were in the same boat this time last year there was still and air of being caught on the hop by Galway! This year is different. We were fore-warned with Galway this year. Our Injury list is mounting and it looks like father time is catching up with a few former dependables. The mood in the county is different. Last year there was more defiance going into the back door, this year most don't have the stomach for the longer journey. The feeling is our chance is gone and who could disagree with them? Friends, work Colleagues, Neighbours would be just as happy if Mayo lost on Saturday and gave us a year off from our now annual September misery and let us spend all that Money on a good holiday.
The thing is if Mayo are to get beaten in the qualifiers there's an argument to be made that the sooner the better in terms of giving lads a break/rest/fitness/a summer where the whole focus wasn't on football.
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 29, 2017, 02:21:41 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 29, 2017, 01:07:51 PM
Thinking this is going to be a short Championship season this year for Mayo. Even though we were in the same boat this time last year there was still and air of being caught on the hop by Galway! This year is different. We were fore-warned with Galway this year. Our Injury list is mounting and it looks like father time is catching up with a few former dependables. The mood in the county is different. Last year there was more defiance going into the back door, this year most don't have the stomach for the longer journey. The feeling is our chance is gone and who could disagree with them? Friends, work Colleagues, Neighbours would be just as happy if Mayo lost on Saturday and gave us a year off from our now annual September misery and let us spend all that Money on a good holiday.
Just as happy my hole, on Saturday we'll bate Derry in revenge for 07 and inflicting Joe brolly on the world.
3rd round, we'll bate Meath for 96, the ref who shall not be named and that bollix o'rourke.
4th round we'll bate cork for 89 & 93.
QF we'll bate Galway for redeveloping salthill amongst other things.
SF we'll bate Kerry for well, loads of years and that bollix Spillane.
In the final, we'll bate Dublin, again for multiple years, all their unfair advantages and that smug bollix Gavin.
Maigh Eo abú
That bit there reminds me of the McAteer Carlsberg ad from 2002 World Cup! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auoToogktZQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auoToogktZQ)
Any word on teams? We've announced Thursday afternoon for the past two matches I think
Maybe I'm a bit slow and missing something but, for the life of me, I don't know what the fuss over Clarkie's kickouts is all about.
Divil a bit of a word about the hoors outfield who are supposed to gain possession when he does hoof it out.
I mean we can all marvel at the quality and accuracy of Cluxton's delivery- almost inch perfect to someone who is waiting for it. But he didn't lick it off the bushes. He reputed to arrive at training sessions at least an hour early to work on his free taking and kickouts.
Furthermore, it's obvious that the Dublin outfield players waiting for the ball know where it's going to go. There has to be some form of code between them to explain the accuracy of his kicks and the distance they will travel.
I've seen plenty of Mayo outfielders caught on the hop and react too slowly when the ball is sent in their direction. To cap it all, Mayo have a goalkeeper coach, (Peter Burke, isn't it?)
WTF is he supposed to be doing?
Bottom line for me is that we do have a problem with Clarke's delivery but he alone can't be blamed.
It shouldn't take rocket science to come up with a solution.
Fancy Derry for this but I'm biased.
I see Brolly is back on the wind-up and he's back on Mayo's case again.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/keith-higgins-is-out-which-in-a-way-is-a-blessing-joe-brolly-thinks-mayo-are-vulnerable-in-the-qualifiers-35881553.html
He knows how bad Derry are and how they are far more interested in club football than the county scene yet he's stirring it up again knowing this is a team who should have beaten Dublin last year at the first chance despite scoring two ogs.
Even if it was in Derry, Mayo would still win easy. It's a team that got relegated to Div 3 against a team who are consistently in the AI semifinals at least.
Mayo at a canter lads
The first qualifier game in particular seems to be dangerous for teams coming off unexpected defeats.
Nothing against either team and may the best team win, but I'd love to see Kerry v Mayo in the quarter-finals. A real pity they haven't faced each other in the last 2 years after the super games between them in 2014.
Quote from: Fuzzman on June 30, 2017, 02:24:12 PM
I see Brolly is back on the wind-up and he's back on Mayo's case again.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/keith-higgins-is-out-which-in-a-way-is-a-blessing-joe-brolly-thinks-mayo-are-vulnerable-in-the-qualifiers-35881553.html
He knows how bad Derry are and how they are far more interested in club football than the county scene yet he's stirring it up again knowing this is a team who should have beaten Dublin last year at the first chance despite scoring two ogs.
Even if it was in Derry, Mayo would still win easy. It's a team that got relegated to Div 3 against a team who are consistently in the AI semifinals at least.
Mayo at a canter lads
I reckon a lot of people would agree with those points Joe makes there.
Quote from: Fuzzman on June 30, 2017, 02:24:12 PM
I see Brolly is back on the wind-up and he's back on Mayo's case again.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/keith-higgins-is-out-which-in-a-way-is-a-blessing-joe-brolly-thinks-mayo-are-vulnerable-in-the-qualifiers-35881553.html
He knows how bad Derry are and how they are far more interested in club football than the county scene yet he's stirring it up again knowing this is a team who should have beaten Dublin last year at the first chance despite scoring two ogs.
Even if it was in Derry, Mayo would still win easy. It's a team that got relegated to Div 3 against a team who are consistently in the AI semifinals at least.
Mayo at a canter lads
more fool any one who reads it.
there no excuse for mayo not to win this game and I don't believe they will lose it
derry seem to be a poor team going back ward where as I think mayo were beaten by a very good galway team who would put it up to any one in the country bar maybe Dublin at their best who I don't think any one would live with . where as derry are probably the 8th or 9th best team in ulster at the moment
even by the headline besmirching the good name of Keith Higgins reassures me the man knows nothing and not worth reading
Quote from: moysider on June 30, 2017, 03:02:47 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on June 30, 2017, 02:24:12 PM
I see Brolly is back on the wind-up and he's back on Mayo's case again.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/keith-higgins-is-out-which-in-a-way-is-a-blessing-joe-brolly-thinks-mayo-are-vulnerable-in-the-qualifiers-35881553.html
He knows how bad Derry are and how they are far more interested in club football than the county scene yet he's stirring it up again knowing this is a team who should have beaten Dublin last year at the first chance despite scoring two ogs.
Even if it was in Derry, Mayo would still win easy. It's a team that got relegated to Div 3 against a team who are consistently in the AI semifinals at least.
Mayo at a canter lads
I reckon a lot of people would agree with those points Joe makes there.
+1
Quote from: Fuzzman on June 30, 2017, 02:24:12 PM
I see Brolly is back on the wind-up and he's back on Mayo's case again.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/keith-higgins-is-out-which-in-a-way-is-a-blessing-joe-brolly-thinks-mayo-are-vulnerable-in-the-qualifiers-35881553.html
He knows how bad Derry are and how they are far more interested in club football than the county scene yet he's stirring it up again knowing this is a team who should have beaten Dublin last year at the first chance despite scoring two ogs.
Even if it was in Derry, Mayo would still win easy. It's a team that got relegated to Div 3 against a team who are consistently in the AI semifinals at least.
Mayo at a canter lads
Thanks for the valued input there. We can sleep soundly.
I think that if one were to compare Joe Brolly to a jackass, it would be a grievous insult.
Jackasses do have feelings, y'know.
However, I have to agree with a few points he has made in this article. I still have flashbacks about the game in Limerick. Donaghy destroyed Caff, who had to go man on man with him for the whole game. Kerry pumped the ball in on him with great accuracy and to great effect. Meanwhile Jamesy was left to prowl at will, waiting for the offload and neither of the corner backs made any serious attempt to block him.
FFS. Mayo were all over Kerry and should have won by a country mile if it wasn't for the failure of Horan to do anything about Donaghy's dominance in front of goal. You could add in for good measure that the accuracy of the midfielders and half backs when targeting Donaghy was also a big asset for Kerry.
Caff didn't do well against Comer and I can't see him improving if Mayo to progress after tomorrow.
I don't think Derry has anyone in Donaghy's class to worry Mayo but there could be other, bigger challenges ahead and it could prove disastrous if the FB line isn't functioning at 100% for the entire game.
I really can't see Derry winning this one but I don't think Mayo are ruthless enough to blast them off the pitch. The habit of easing off when they appear to be in full control has hampered Mayo for years; the game against Sligo this year is a perfect example of what I mean.
Mayo should win by 10 but will probably manage win by 2 or 3.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 30, 2017, 05:22:11 PM
I think that if one were to compare Joe Brolly to a jackass, it would be a grievous insult.
Jackasses do have feelings, y'know.
However, I have to agree with a few points he has made in this article. I still have flashbacks about the game in Limerick. Donaghy destroyed Caff, who had to go man on man with him for the whole game. Kerry pumped the ball in on him with great accuracy and to great effect. Meanwhile Jamesy was left to prowl at will, waiting for the offload and neither of the corner backs made any serious attempt to block him.
FFS. Mayo were all over Kerry and should have won by a country mile if it wasn't for the failure of Horan to do anything about Donaghy's dominance in front of goal. You could add in for good measure that the accuracy of the midfielders and half backs when targeting Donaghy was also a big asset for Kerry.
Caff didn't do well against Comer and I can't see him improving if Mayo to progress after tomorrow.
I don't think Derry has anyone in Donaghy's class to worry Mayo but there could be other, bigger challenges ahead and it could prove disastrous if the FB line isn't functioning at 100% for the entire game.
I really can't see Derry winning this one but I don't think Mayo are ruthless enough to blast them off the pitch. The habit of easing off when they appear to be in full control has hampered Mayo for years; the game against Sligo this year is a perfect example of what I mean.
Mayo should win by 10 but will probably manage win by 2 or 3.
Mark Lynch is twice the footballer Star ever was. If Derry are smart they'll stick him inside and have a field day.
What's happened with Ger Caff? A few years ago he was a class FB but injuries and the like seem to have robbed him of his ability to compete in the air. Getting mugged by Star was atrocious because that lad is as basic a footballer as they come and other FBs found him out years beforehand.
Quote from: Syferus on June 30, 2017, 05:28:45 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 30, 2017, 05:22:11 PM
I think that if one were to compare Joe Brolly to a jackass, it would be a grievous insult.
Jackasses do have feelings, y'know.
However, I have to agree with a few points he has made in this article. I still have flashbacks about the game in Limerick. Donaghy destroyed Caff, who had to go man on man with him for the whole game. Kerry pumped the ball in on him with great accuracy and to great effect. Meanwhile Jamesy was left to prowl at will, waiting for the offload and neither of the corner backs made any serious attempt to block him.
FFS. Mayo were all over Kerry and should have won by a country mile if it wasn't for the failure of Horan to do anything about Donaghy's dominance in front of goal. You could add in for good measure that the accuracy of the midfielders and half backs when targeting Donaghy was also a big asset for Kerry.
Caff didn't do well against Comer and I can't see him improving if Mayo to progress after tomorrow.
I don't think Derry has anyone in Donaghy's class to worry Mayo but there could be other, bigger challenges ahead and it could prove disastrous if the FB line isn't functioning at 100% for the entire game.
I really can't see Derry winning this one but I don't think Mayo are ruthless enough to blast them off the pitch. The habit of easing off when they appear to be in full control has hampered Mayo for years; the game against Sligo this year is a perfect example of what I mean.
Mayo should win by 10 but will probably manage win by 2 or 3.
Mark Lynch is twice the footballer Star ever was. If Derry are smart they'll stick him inside and have a field day.
What's happened with Ger Caff? A few years ago he was a class FB but injuries and the like seem to have robbed him of his ability to compete in the air. Getting mugged by Star was atrocious because that lad is as basic a footballer as they come and other FBs found him out years beforehand.
I'm afraid you are 100% right on all counts.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 30, 2017, 05:22:11 PM
I think that if one were to compare Joe Brolly to a jackass, it would be a grievous insult.
Jackasses do have feelings, y'know.
However, I have to agree with a few points he has made in this article. I still have flashbacks about the game in Limerick. Donaghy destroyed Caff, who had to go man on man with him for the whole game. Kerry pumped the ball in on him with great accuracy and to great effect. Meanwhile Jamesy was left to prowl at will, waiting for the offload and neither of the corner backs made any serious attempt to block him.
FFS. Mayo were all over Kerry and should have won by a country mile if it wasn't for the failure of Horan to do anything about Donaghy's dominance in front of goal. You could add in for good measure that the accuracy of the midfielders and half backs when targeting Donaghy was also a big asset for Kerry.
Caff didn't do well against Comer and I can't see him improving if Mayo to progress after tomorrow.
I don't think Derry has anyone in Donaghy's class to worry Mayo but there could be other, bigger challenges ahead and it could prove disastrous if the FB line isn't functioning at 100% for the entire game.
I really can't see Derry winning this one but I don't think Mayo are ruthless enough to blast them off the pitch. The habit of easing off when they appear to be in full control has hampered Mayo for years; the game against Sligo this year is a perfect example of what I mean.
Mayo should win by 10 but will probably manage win by 2 or 3.
I wouldn't be confident at all. Not with our ability to find ways to lose. I remember Derry giving us a bellyful of it in the league a couple of years ago. We couldn t handle Kielt or McGucian at all. Lynch has always been a job for us. If our injury situation is as bad as reported we'll do well to get a result. In general our record in qualifiers is awful. Not this team, but if you take Keegan, Higgins, Barrett, Caff, and Aidan O Shea out of this team, it is not quite 'this' team any more.
Quote from: moysider on June 30, 2017, 08:39:11 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 30, 2017, 05:22:11 PM
I think that if one were to compare Joe Brolly to a jackass, it would be a grievous insult.
Jackasses do have feelings, y'know.
However, I have to agree with a few points he has made in this article. I still have flashbacks about the game in Limerick. Donaghy destroyed Caff, who had to go man on man with him for the whole game. Kerry pumped the ball in on him with great accuracy and to great effect. Meanwhile Jamesy was left to prowl at will, waiting for the offload and neither of the corner backs made any serious attempt to block him.
FFS. Mayo were all over Kerry and should have won by a country mile if it wasn't for the failure of Horan to do anything about Donaghy's dominance in front of goal. You could add in for good measure that the accuracy of the midfielders and half backs when targeting Donaghy was also a big asset for Kerry.
Caff didn't do well against Comer and I can't see him improving if Mayo to progress after tomorrow.
I don't think Derry has anyone in Donaghy's class to worry Mayo but there could be other, bigger challenges ahead and it could prove disastrous if the FB line isn't functioning at 100% for the entire game.
I really can't see Derry winning this one but I don't think Mayo are ruthless enough to blast them off the pitch. The habit of easing off when they appear to be in full control has hampered Mayo for years; the game against Sligo this year is a perfect example of what I mean.
Mayo should win by 10 but will probably manage win by 2 or 3.
I wouldn't be confident at all. Not with our ability to find ways to lose. I remember Derry giving us a bellyful of it in the league a couple of years ago. We couldn t handle Kielt or McGucian at all. Lynch has always been a job for us. If our injury situation is as bad as reported we'll do well to get a result. In general our record in qualifiers is awful. Not this team, but if you take Keegan, Higgins, Barrett, Caff, and Aidan O Shea out of this team, it is not quite 'this' team any more.
In fairness Derry were a bit better then than they are now. Were Cafferky,Barrett on the Mayo team that reached the All Ireland final last year and whats wrong with Keegan? todays modern day football of high mobility and fitness is probably passing a player like Aidan O Shea by.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 30, 2017, 08:48:25 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 30, 2017, 08:39:11 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 30, 2017, 05:22:11 PM
I think that if one were to compare Joe Brolly to a jackass, it would be a grievous insult.
Jackasses do have feelings, y'know.
However, I have to agree with a few points he has made in this article. I still have flashbacks about the game in Limerick. Donaghy destroyed Caff, who had to go man on man with him for the whole game. Kerry pumped the ball in on him with great accuracy and to great effect. Meanwhile Jamesy was left to prowl at will, waiting for the offload and neither of the corner backs made any serious attempt to block him.
FFS. Mayo were all over Kerry and should have won by a country mile if it wasn't for the failure of Horan to do anything about Donaghy's dominance in front of goal. You could add in for good measure that the accuracy of the midfielders and half backs when targeting Donaghy was also a big asset for Kerry.
Caff didn't do well against Comer and I can't see him improving if Mayo to progress after tomorrow.
I don't think Derry has anyone in Donaghy's class to worry Mayo but there could be other, bigger challenges ahead and it could prove disastrous if the FB line isn't functioning at 100% for the entire game.
I really can't see Derry winning this one but I don't think Mayo are ruthless enough to blast them off the pitch. The habit of easing off when they appear to be in full control has hampered Mayo for years; the game against Sligo this year is a perfect example of what I mean.
Mayo should win by 10 but will probably manage win by 2 or 3.
I wouldn't be confident at all. Not with our ability to find ways to lose. I remember Derry giving us a bellyful of it in the league a couple of years ago. We couldn t handle Kielt or McGucian at all. Lynch has always been a job for us. If our injury situation is as bad as reported we'll do well to get a result. In general our record in qualifiers is awful. Not this team, but if you take Keegan, Higgins, Barrett, Caff, and Aidan O Shea out of this team, it is not quite 'this' team any more.
In fairness Derry were a bit better then than they are now. Were Cafferky,Barrett on the Mayo team that reached the All Ireland final last year and whats wrong with Keegan? todays modern day football of high mobility and fitness is probably passing a player like Aidan O Shea by.
Things were hardly sedate when he hit the scene so you seem to making a serious excuse for AOS there.
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I reckon a lot of people would agree with those points Joe makes there.
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Joe has the inside scoop on Mayo these days ;) :-X
Still no sign of a team or numbers on jerseys as it is nowadays from Mayo. Poor form don't you think? Anyway, best of luck to all involved tomortow.
Mayo (All-Ireland SFC qualifiers Round 2A v Derry, 1/7/2017): David Clarke (Ballina Stephenits);
Brendan Harrison (Aghamore), Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites), Chris Barrett (Belmullet);
Colm Boyle (Davitts), Lee Keegan (Westport), Paddy Durcan (Castlebar Mitchels);
Seamus O'Shea (Breaffy), Tom Parsons (Charlestown Sarsfields);
Fergal Boland (Aghamore), Diarmuid O'Connor (Ballintubber), Stephen Coen (Hollymount/Carramore);
Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore), Cillian O'Connor (Ballintubber), Andy Moran (Ballaghaderreen).
Some magic sponge work done down the West!
Same as the starting team the last day except Boyle for Vaughan & Harrison for Higgins?
Would expect at least a couple of changes
Quote from: JoG2 on June 30, 2017, 10:27:17 PM
Some magic sponge work done down the West!
Or paper doesn't refuse ink?
We wont know if its a dummy team or not until some time before throw-in.
If that team named is well and plays I'd be a bit more upbeat. If there is a few changes I'd be very iffy.
As selected with Coen wearing 12 I'm trying to imagine how it will shape up. I'd like to see him hold at 6 and give Keegan a more attacking role - that's if Keegan plays. I'm also struggling to see how we can get enough scores to beat anybody convincingly.
It has the makings of a very sad day for mayo football, its no addition me raving how great these last few years have been, as neutrals just enjoy sneering it seems at a fantastic group of players who have given their all for the cause. I'll always speak their names with pride though and I'd hope all mayo people will too.
Finest of memories and an enjoyable journey its been .
Quote from: larryin89 on June 30, 2017, 10:57:54 PM
It has the makings of a very sad day for mayo football, its no addition me raving how great these last few years have been, as neutrals just enjoy sneering it seems at a fantastic group of players who have given their all for the cause. I'll always speak their names with pride though and I'd hope all mayo people will too.
Finest of memories and an enjoyable journey its been .
Larry, you've been listening to them Kerry bucks for too long ;D
Derry: B McKinless, N Keenan, B Rogers, K McKaigue, C McFaul, C McWilliams, C McKaigue, C McAtamney, D Heavron, R Bell, N O'Loughlin, E Lynn, D Tallon, E McGuckin, B Heron.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 30, 2017, 05:22:11 PM
I think that if one were to compare Joe Brolly to a jackass, it would be a grievous insult.
Jackasses do have feelings, y'know.
However, I have to agree with a few points he has made in this article. I still have flashbacks about the game in Limerick. Donaghy destroyed Caff, who had to go man on man with him for the whole game. Kerry pumped the ball in on him with great accuracy and to great effect. Meanwhile Jamesy was left to prowl at will, waiting for the offload and neither of the corner backs made any serious attempt to block him.
FFS. Mayo were all over Kerry and should have won by a country mile if it wasn't for the failure of Horan to do anything about Donaghy's dominance in front of goal. You could add in for good measure that the accuracy of the midfielders and half backs when targeting Donaghy was also a big asset for Kerry.
Caff didn't do well against Comer and I can't see him improving if Mayo to progress after tomorrow.
I don't think Derry has anyone in Donaghy's class to worry Mayo but there could be other, bigger challenges ahead and it could prove disastrous if the FB line isn't functioning at 100% for the entire game.
I really can't see Derry winning this one but I don't think Mayo are ruthless enough to blast them off the pitch. The habit of easing off when they appear to be in full control has hampered Mayo for years; the game against Sligo this year is a perfect example of what I mean.
Mayo should win by 10 but will probably manage win by 2 or 3.
In fairness to Rochford, and H & C the year before, he showed how to get around the big target man last year by bringing Barry Moran back to cover. Not really concerned about that style of play any longer. Big bird is getting closer to fitness even if this game has come too early for him. Don't think Derry have a big man inside anyway do they? For Donaghy et al we now have a plan. It's further out the pitch our problems still exist.
Comer ate them up the last day so the plan doesn't seem to be working for Mayo, Ballagh.
Up Derry.
Brolly on the radio now about the almighty Derry full forward line again, is there any point in Mayo turning up at all ?
Sooner people stop listening to that tool , the better
Quote from: Halfquarter on July 01, 2017, 03:04:49 PM
Brolly on the radio now about the almighty Derry full forward line again, is there any point in Mayo turning up at all ?
Is there no off button on that radio?
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 01, 2017, 03:09:56 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on July 01, 2017, 03:04:49 PM
Brolly on the radio now about the almighty Derry full forward line again, is there any point in Mayo turning up at all ?
Is there no off button on that radio?
Unfortunatly my masochistic streak wouldn't allow it.
Majestic hair colouring from the Derry keeper
Seamus O Shea and Diarmuid O Connor injured? Derry more or less picking the same starting team that was hammered by Tyrone.
Parsons enjoying himself.
Fairly open game - Derry losing the ball too easy in possession though.
Error ridden game some awful wides.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 01, 2017, 05:12:56 PM
Error ridden game some awful wides.
1 point from play for Mayo and 5 wides ???
AOS won't play the full game - his tackling efforts have been woeful.
Almost a lucky goal for Mayo there
Quare holes in that Mayo defence.
Clarke saves and then Mayo are saved by the post. Derry have had some goal chances here.
Derry gonna have plenty of fun with their own keeper.
By fun I mean heart attacks.
Derry keeper living up to his hairstyle.
Nice juggling skills on display there though :D
Derry should be further ahead but basic errors and wastefulness in front of goal means they aren't. Awful soft black card could be a turning point that decision
Black was very harsh, don't think he pulled him down rather hit him a slap that knocked him. If Derry were just a bit cuter they could win this.
Quick rules question - used to be if you were being tackled and an arm held you could throw the ball up and fist pass it with the same hand. Mayo got pulled for that, is it no longer the rule or did the Mayo guy just not do an obvious enough striking action?
Half time Mayo 0-7 Derry 0-8. A deserved lead for Derry. Mayo are as flat as the MacHale park atmosphere
Not sure about that, Mayo have missed some awful chances themselves. Thought Mayo would be there or thereabouts last year even when they weren't playing well but hard to see them stepping up this year. You just can't see their forwards getting them over the line and they mightn't even get over this hurdle as if they fall 3 or 4 behind I'd say they could be done for.
1 point kicked over the bar by Andy Moran, 1 point hand-passed over by Lee Keegan, 5 frees kicked by COC ( and a fair few of those frees were fairly cheap ones to give away by Derry)
By my count Mayo had 13 other shooting attempts, between efforts that dropped short, were blocked down /saved/hit the post and wides.
Thst black a plus for derry, he does nothing but foul all the time
Quote from: tyssam5 on July 01, 2017, 05:42:53 PM
Quick rules question - used to be if you were being tackled and an arm held you could throw the ball up and fist pass it with the same hand. Mayo got pulled for that, is it no longer the rule or did the Mayo guy just not do an obvious enough striking action?
Wrong call by the ref.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 01, 2017, 05:40:08 PM
Derry should be further ahead but basic errors and wastefulness in front of goal means they aren't. Awful soft black card could be a turning point that decision
Mayo forwards as reliable as ever. Only Andy Moran has scored from play and the other 5 offering nothing. Aidan O'Shea spent so long playing basketball he has forgotten football is a contact sport. Any time he is touched near the penalty area he has gone down and got a couple of soft frees. If Derry stop giving away frees they could win this game. Close game but the pace/standard is poor
Poor from us so far, familiar lethargy throughout the team. Leaders needed now
Mayo half-forward line are brutal
Can't score and losing most battles
Derry have probably been the better side but needed to take one of those goal chances. Seems like a game where Mayo will probably get over the line in the end.
Mayo 1/4 now, Derry 7/2.
Are Mayo playing without any form of sweeper? Once Derrry win their kickout they're pretty much through on the full back-line.
Colm Boyle seems to be a sweeper of some sort but dropped so deep that he didn't impact upon scoring chances from 30m+.
C'mon Derry yiz inbred hoors.
Bernard Flynn on the radio reckoned that Derry were "on a great run through the qualifiers". Hopefully that's just him being a clown rather than prescient
Derry keeper is giving a virtuoso display. For Mayo.
I take it the Derry keeper is a brilliant shot-stopper or something.
Quote from: ONeill on July 01, 2017, 05:53:28 PM
C'mon Derry yiz inbred hoors.
Do gulpins tend to marry outside the family ?
Only for land purposes.
Mayo looking better but a goal for either side could be the difference.
Why is Coen still on the field
10 each with 20 minutes to play.
Awful shooting from both teams. Is there a strong wind?
Quote from: OgraAnDun on July 01, 2017, 06:14:55 PM
Awful shooting from both teams. Is there a strong wind?
Stiff enough apparently.
Quote from: ONeill on July 01, 2017, 06:03:06 PM
I take it the Derry keeper is a brilliant shot-stopper or something.
Looks like it in this half
Always said the Derry keeper was quality.
Derry every chance now. 2-up with 12 mins left.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 01, 2017, 06:17:25 PM
Always said the Derry keeper was quality.
Keeping Derry in the lead in this 2nd half. Derry lead by 2 with just 12 mins to play.
McGuckian and Barton skulduggery.
Some horror-show of shooting on display from Mayo
3 points from play
Quote from: ONeill on July 01, 2017, 06:18:25 PM
Derry every chance now. 2-up with 12 mins left.
The Mayo quest for Sam has consumed a big chunk of the last 6 summers for me.
I may have to restrict my soap opera consumption to the Galway hurlers.
2-up. 7 mins left.
Five mins to play Derry still lead by 2 points :o
I know we're having a bad evening in Ballybofey, but this is shocking stuff from Mayo!
I think Mayo will get a goal to win this one.
St Patrick looks mighty pissed! Derry are aVery gifted team according to canning
An astonishing game alright.
Sickener for Derry.
Nice strike!
Quote from: hardstation on July 01, 2017, 06:29:10 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on July 01, 2017, 06:27:19 PM
I think Mayo will get a goal to win this one.
Shout
Mayo have been awful but they haven't got to the AIF and semis so many times without a bit of steel when it matters. They also opened Derry up too easily a few times in the second half.
Although Derry have just got one of their own.
Holy smokes
Mayo can't be worse than this in the next round so that's a good base from which to improve on?? They'll find a way to pull through in the end .
I only turned this in late in the game and it is all happening!
Derry had any midfield at all! Ie p cassidy and e bradley they won that game
Next score wins?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 01, 2017, 06:33:10 PM
Derry had any midfield at all! Ie p cassidy and e bradley they won that game
Lost a good midfielder to a soft black card in fairness.
Derry the better team in the 1st half and Mayo the better team in the 2nd half. A draw after normal time a fair result i feel.
Don't think Deegan fancied extra time
I'd say Mayo will win the ET though.
Derry had lost their shape a bit towards the end. Can only see one winner here.
Is it bad diesel of is it the end? It's hard to ignore the bell tolling for this Mayo team.
Mayo had 43 different attempts at scores and converted 13.
From deadballs they converted 7 from 11.
From play they were 6 from 31, with Loftus being 2 for 2. :o :o :o :o :o
Fair play to Derry a gutsy performance to put a bit of pride back in the jersey... Mayo are f**king horrible though in fairness!!!
Quote from: Syferus on July 01, 2017, 06:40:52 PM
Is it bad diesel of is it the end?
They must've had a spare tank out the back
Derry players look out on their feet. ET is the last thing an aging Mayo need with all the games they will have to play each weekend to get to qtr final. Mayo should go on to win from here
It says it all that Mayo needed Patrick Durcan to come up from HB to kick a point and settle the team down. He did right thing going own his own. I wouldn't trust those Mayo forwards to kick a point at that stage either
Don't know if I'd fancy Mayo too strongly. Derry with the finishing line in sight probably retreated into themselves a bit but I didn't think they looked out on their feet or anything and Mayo have too many lads who are no scoring threat at all. Mayo are the better team overall so you'd still have to go with them but they might need another goal to get there.
Deegan gave Mayo some soft frees late on.
Quote from: screenexile on July 01, 2017, 06:41:50 PM
Fair play to Derry a gutsy performance to put a bit of pride back in the jersey... Mayo are f**king horrible though in fairness!!!
Derry can't win a ball from kickouts, no midfield at all and no strategy. Mayo have terrible forwards in terms of shooting. Fair play to the derry lads. They looked a bit tired alright there but hopefully we will still be competitive in et.
Some length of break here.
The Wide-Boys are back.
Any links for this?
Game looks done and dusted with that goalkeeper error.
Well that's that.
Derry keeper has had a game as mixed as his hairstyle.
Mental game.
Possible lifeline for Derry not taken!
Awful penalty.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 01, 2017, 07:00:03 PM
Possible lifeline for Derry not taken!
Poor chap was that knackered he could hardly run up to the ball to take it. Mayo's superior fitness/physicality telling now.
Anyone see the red card incident?
Quote from: dublin7 on July 01, 2017, 07:01:58 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 01, 2017, 07:00:03 PM
Possible lifeline for Derry not taken!
Poor chap was that knackered he could hardly run up to the ball to take it. Mayo's superior fitness/physicality telling now.
Jesus, Kielt only came on in the second half if he was wrecked then he needs to visit his doctor.
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 01, 2017, 07:02:50 PM
Anyone see the red card incident?
Derry mentor seemed to claim it was a punch so if so he could be out for a bit which would be a big loss to Mayo.
They may lump everything on top of Lynch.
Did Aidan O'Shea win every throw-in?
Quote from: Zulu on July 01, 2017, 07:05:28 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 01, 2017, 07:02:50 PM
Anyone see the red card incident?
Derry mentor seemed to claim it was a punch so if so he could be out for a bit which would be a big loss to Mayo.
Patrick Durcan has turned into a real leader on that team and showing up some of the veterans. Would be a big loss for Mayo
Loftus scored 'a life-changing goal' apparently.
Quote from: ONeill on July 01, 2017, 07:15:57 PM
Loftus scored 'a life-changing goal' apparently.
That was hilarious. Benny was it? Canning brutal as usual. The amount of small mistakes he makes throughout a game is incredible.
Quote from: hardstation on July 01, 2017, 07:16:47 PM
"He's only had about 4 touches" - Tierney awarding the Man of the Match to Loftus.
they weren't spoilt for choice to be fair
We're some craic to be fair
The only important thing about this stage is getting through to the next round. There was serious doom and gloom following Mayo's early rounds last year and look where they ended up.
The draw for the next round is huge. Donegal biggest challenge but Clare and Meath will be tricky, especially away from home.
I always said it, you can have a very exciting game between 2 bad teams, the skill levels were zero there this evening.
Extra time only glossed over a shoddy Mayo performance. Donegal,Meath or Clare for Mayo next now and if the same as last year it will be Meath at home.
We could be down a fair few players through injury and suspension for the next round. Looked to me like Harrison had a hamstring problem again and Keegan will surely be out for a while too. Doherty and Loftus have played their way into contention and that might be a good thing to come from tonight
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 01, 2017, 08:09:43 PM
Extra time only glossed over a shoddy Mayo performance. Donegal,Meath or Clare for Mayo next now and if the same as last year it will be Meath at home.
Hopefully
Well hopefully that's our bad day at the office out of the system. Crazy game! :)
Games like that really stand to you.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Mayo in August again.
Great Spirit once again . Fair play to the lads, especially the subs. The lads that made the difference were only forced into the battle by the management but we will take that. rochford might stumble on a team.
Did ye widen the goals for extra time or what?
Derry deserve enormous credit for holding their own against a top 5 team in their home venue in normal time but it should also be acknowledged that they had emptied their tank by the 60 minute and its easier for any team to get scores against tired bodies who clearly didn't have the conditioning,experienced of established Div one team like Mayo. The Derry heads dropped completely after the penalty was missed in extra time as well.
A slight cause for concern for Mayo that they needed until extra time to show the gap between the sides however a win is a win and i would expect Mayo to kick on now and reach the All Ireland quarter final at least.
Thought AOS deserved MOTM
Weird game, it's like we started kicking the scores in ET that we were missing in normal time. Where the f**k was our sweeper? Derry beat one tackle and they were wide open for scoring, bizarre!
Fair play to Doherty and Especially Loftus, nice to see him do something!
Deegan is a brutal ref, for both sides but felt the "double yellow" decisions could all have been blacks for Derry. That No. 5 for Derry was a tr**p!
Anyway good to still be there and probably will stand to us the manner of the victory. I don't think an extra 20mins will effect them too much
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 01, 2017, 09:51:29 PM
Thought AOS deserved MOTM
Weird game, it's like we started kicking the scores in ET that we were missing in normal time. Where the f**k was our sweeper? Derry beat one tackle and they were wide open for scoring, bizarre!
Fair play to Doherty and Especially Loftus, nice to see him do something!
Deegan is a brutal ref, for both sides but felt the "double yellow" decisions could all have been blacks for Derry. That No. 5 for Derry was a tr**p!
Anyway good to still be there and probably will stand to us the manner of the victory. I don't think an extra 20mins will effect them too much
Deegan reffing is like a complete fuking lottery. Its gone beyond a joke at this stage. No one knows what hes gonna let go or blow up for. Decisions can go for you or against you but absolutely so consistency from one minute to the next. He just seems to be making it up as he's going along
And of course not helped by linesmen tonight. One man cannot see Diarmuid O'Connor getting eye gouged and battered by 2 players from 10m away but the other lad can see Paddy Durcan strike from 60m away.
Anyway. We live to fight another day. Tis some craic following this team
There were two incidents towards the end, the DOC yellow, where it was crystal clear he was dragged down and then tag teamed, hop ball. Then AOS man handles his man, lies on him and the goalie (correctly) goes in and clears him out, hop ball again.
McLoughlin was very niave to just stop playing when DOC was being wrestled rather than play the whistle, instead of us having possession it was restarted as a hop ball (correctly) which I think we lost.
Big worries for Mayo but it was very similar against Fermanagh last year.
My gut instinct tells me that the legs are gone on a lot of their key players, they are hugely reliant on a 34 year old Andy Moran in attack. Cillian O'Connor just doesn't contribute enough from play.
Fair play to Derry.
It just shows that they have the players to make a big impact on Championship if they all commit and get a good management setup in.
Thought COC was very good this evening, won a savage amount of ball
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 01, 2017, 09:51:29 PM
Thought AOS deserved MOTM
Weird game, it's like we started kicking the scores in ET that we were missing in normal time. Where the f**k was our sweeper? Derry beat one tackle and they were wide open for scoring, bizarre!
Fair play to Doherty and Especially Loftus, nice to see him do something!
Deegan is a brutal ref, for both sides but felt the "double yellow" decisions could all have been blacks for Derry. That No. 5 for Derry was a tr**p!
Anyway good to still be there and probably will stand to us the manner of the victory. I don't think an extra 20mins will effect them too much
I actually agree with you he was the best player on the pitch!
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 01, 2017, 11:12:27 PM
Big worries for Mayo but it was very similar against Fermanagh last year.
My gut instinct tells me that the legs are gone on a lot of their key players, they are hugely reliant on a 34 year old Andy Moran in attack. Cillian O'Connor just doesn't contribute enough from play.
I don't think we will ever see Cillian O'Connor produce a performance like he did against Donegal in 2014 again, he is generally consistently good but he was something special that day. Has not got there since.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 01, 2017, 11:22:01 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 01, 2017, 11:12:27 PM
Big worries for Mayo but it was very similar against Fermanagh last year.
My gut instinct tells me that the legs are gone on a lot of their key players, they are hugely reliant on a 34 year old Andy Moran in attack. Cillian O'Connor just doesn't contribute enough from play.
I don't think we will ever see Cillian O'Connor produce a performance like he did against Donegal in 2014 again, he is generally consistently good but he was something special that day. Has not got there since.
I think it was more a case of Donegal being ran ragged and not having the hunger/heart for it in their AI hangover. Mayo were fired up that day, Donegal didn't want it.
O'Connor is very easily bottled up.
Mental stuff altogether. I've a few more grey hairs after every mayo game.
AOS definitely motm. Makes such a difference having someone to catch the throw in. Aidan caught all 4 this evening, compared to the galway game where we lost both and conceded straight away from them.
Our shooting in the 2nd half, dear oh dear. Paddy Durcan's point to bring it back to the minimum was the key score. Seemed to calm everyone down. Hopefully it's just a one game ban for him, anyone know for sure? In his defense, he was being held and was trying to break free. Still a red card though.
Hard to know where we go from here, but we'll enjoy the journey anyway!
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 01, 2017, 11:27:09 PM
Our shooting in the 2nd half, dear oh dear. Paddy Durcan's point to bring it back to the minimum was the key score. Seemed to calm everyone down. Hopefully it's just a one game ban for him, anyone know for sure? In his defense, he was being held and was trying to break free. Still a red card though.
What was it for?
Striking generally tends to be a 1 match ban. Durcan would be a huge loss for Mayo right now as he's one of the few players in the side who has pace at the minute.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 01, 2017, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 01, 2017, 11:27:09 PM
Our shooting in the 2nd half, dear oh dear. Paddy Durcan's point to bring it back to the minimum was the key score. Seemed to calm everyone down. Hopefully it's just a one game ban for him, anyone know for sure? In his defense, he was being held and was trying to break free. Still a red card though.
What was it for?
Striking generally tends to be a 1 match ban. Durcan would be a huge loss for Mayo right now as he's one of the few players in the side who has pace at the minute.
Striking off the ball same as Keith Higgins did v Galway.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 01, 2017, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 01, 2017, 11:27:09 PM
Our shooting in the 2nd half, dear oh dear. Paddy Durcan's point to bring it back to the minimum was the key score. Seemed to calm everyone down. Hopefully it's just a one game ban for him, anyone know for sure? In his defense, he was being held and was trying to break free. Still a red card though.
What was it for?
Striking generally tends to be a 1 match ban. Durcan would be a huge loss for Mayo right now as he's one of the few players in the side who has pace at the minute.
Himself and the Derry lad were holding each other, Durcan seemed to be trying to break free and thumped him in the shoulder/back region.
One match ban I'd say for a category 3 offence:
Category III Infractions 5.15 To strike or to attempt to strike an opponent with arm, elbow, hand or knee.
Category III (i) (ii) Minimum - A One Match Suspension in the same Code and at the same Level, applicable to the next game in the same Competition, even if that game occurs in the following year.
That's what I would have thought but a few lads on the mayo blog were saying 4 weeks. Didn't look near as bad as Higgins on Comer, if we're comparing.
The gouging has to be tackled but for some reason the GAA continually refuses to acknowledge it as a problem.
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Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 02, 2017, 12:00:07 AM
The gouging has to be tackled but for some reason the GAA continually refuses to acknowledge it as a problem.
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sshhh. Cant be commenting on that kinda stuff. Have to wait for due process. Just remember freedom of expression is one of the rights in this republic, BUT ITS NOT ABSOLUTE
If those pictures are real then he should get a serious ban.
Just watching it back, Derry left it behind them, had a great chance just before we got our goal, score that and we don't come back
FFS, Deegan gave a hop ball, Mayo won it so he blew up immediately for full time
Talking of Deegan - is the one hand handpass illegal? He gave frees twice for it.
It seems to be allowed as well as the throw in the hurley stuff. Then again hurley and rules....😃
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 02, 2017, 12:43:40 AM
If those pictures are real then he should get a serious ban.
Just watching it back, Derry left it behind them, had a great chance just before we got our goal, score that and we don't come back
FFS, Deegan gave a hop ball, Mayo won it so he blew up immediately for full time
You cant be done on photo evidence. True
That gouging looks intentional?
Quote from: Rossfan on July 02, 2017, 12:59:47 AM
Talking of Deegan - is the one hand handpass illegal? He gave frees twice for it.
It seems to be allowed as well as the throw in the hurley stuff. Then again hurley and rules....😃
The Dubs are big fans of it if their arm is being held or even fending off their man. I was told some coache are teaching it as a get-out. I presumed it was legal if there is a striking action.
The game was mental but by God Mayo's shooting was awful at times. Derry just emptied themselves and were easy pickings in extra time.
I think Mayos dominance around the middle sector is what got them to extra time.
It was wave after wave for the last 15 minutes of normal time simply because Derry couldn't get their hands on the ball from their own kick outs.
So Derry could never really take advantage of Mayos bad shooting because the ball was coming straight back at them from the subsequent kick out.
They were unlikely to be able to hold out against all that pressure.
Usually it ends in scores eventually.
In extra time there was only going to be one winner.
Derry had nothing in the tank at that stage
What about the derry keeper? Some great saves but a bag of nerves kicking out and in play.
McKinless had obviously been instructed to look for the short kick out and avoid the centre of the field. With that scenario, it's up to the outfield players to find space, make dummy runs, find gaps around the half back line for the keeer to aim for. It didn't look that that was happening. Time and again there were a number of lads who were static and the only place to go was the corner backs.
As a minor on of McKinless' main strengths was his kick out, as they seemed to have a decent strategy in place. The fella made two or three great saves and along with Keenan was one of our best performers.
The antics of the Derry management on the sideline half way through the second half when Mayo had a line ball spoke volumes about them. They got what their behaviour deserves in the end I suppose.
Have RTE found an new co-comentator for fooball in Benny Tierney? He only added to the commntatry when he had something insightful to like Micheal Duignan does in the Hurling.
Missed most of the game although managed to watch all of the extra time. There's some bad stats doing the round on Mayo's shooting, haven't seen anything on Derry's shooting though.
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 02, 2017, 12:31:14 PM
Have RTE found an new co-comentator for fooball in Benny Tierney? He only added to the commntatry when he had something insightful to like Micheal Duignan does in the Hurling.
would agree with that..Does not say something for the sake of it and adds to the telecast
Not sure how Aiden O Shea did not get the man of the match award.Was a colossus thro out and seems to be regaining full fitness
Quote from: redcard on July 02, 2017, 11:26:39 AM
The antics of the Derry management on the sideline half way through the second half when Mayo had a line ball spoke volumes about them. They got what their behaviour deserves in the end I suppose.
And McGuckin a Tyrone man, does indeed speak volumes ye tit!
Quote from: JoG2 on July 02, 2017, 02:13:57 PM
Quote from: redcard on July 02, 2017, 11:26:39 AM
The antics of the Derry management on the sideline half way through the second half when Mayo had a line ball spoke volumes about them. They got what their behaviour deserves in the end I suppose.
And McGuckin a Tyrone man, does indeed speak volumes ye tit!
You obviously didn't see the incident I was referring to and haven't a clue what you are talking about. But sure it's all Tyrones fault......
Maybe you could elaborate then without just bein a douchebag
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 01, 2017, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 01, 2017, 11:27:09 PM
Our shooting in the 2nd half, dear oh dear. Paddy Durcan's point to bring it back to the minimum was the key score. Seemed to calm everyone down. Hopefully it's just a one game ban for him, anyone know for sure? In his defense, he was being held and was trying to break free. Still a red card though.
What was it for?
Striking generally tends to be a 1 match ban. Durcan would be a huge loss for Mayo right now as he's one of the few players in the side who has pace at the minute.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDtilgIXYAAv52W.jpg)
Quote from: mayo.mick on July 02, 2017, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 01, 2017, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 01, 2017, 11:27:09 PM
Our shooting in the 2nd half, dear oh dear. Paddy Durcan's point to bring it back to the minimum was the key score. Seemed to calm everyone down. Hopefully it's just a one game ban for him, anyone know for sure? In his defense, he was being held and was trying to break free. Still a red card though.
What was it for?
Striking generally tends to be a 1 match ban. Durcan would be a huge loss for Mayo right now as he's one of the few players in the side who has pace at the minute.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDtilgIXYAAv52W.jpg)
I'm sure Lenny will be along shortly now to be outraged at the behaviour of his men.
Quote from: tyssam5 on July 01, 2017, 05:42:53 PM
Quick rules question - used to be if you were being tackled and an arm held you could throw the ball up and fist pass it with the same hand. Mayo got pulled for that, is it no longer the rule or did the Mayo guy just not do an obvious enough striking action?
Noted this creeping in at county and club level, why on earth would anyone throw up and fist with same hand unless their other hand is being held. Seems a very obvious free to the player in possession or apply advantage rule
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on July 02, 2017, 05:27:00 PM
Maybe you could elaborate then without just bein a douchebag
I presume it the one where a mayo man was looking to grab hold of the ball along the sideline, the derry man, the same lad who came on to alert the ref to the Durcan incident, maor foireanna, body check him, then I think slapped the ball out of his hands once he got it.
A nothing incident yet if Barrett had reacted and slapped him he would be gone. In the vein of what Davy Fitz did but not to same degree, harmless and yet not harmless. The linesman was right there, I'd have liked to see him tell the ref and ur man be sent off
Thought that cheers. Redzone seems outraged by it all
Still trying to get my head around yesterday. I was half expecting the worst so was relieved by a win - any kind of win. I didn't know what type of self-destruction Mayo would do to itself yesterday but as it turned out it. This time instead of own goals and poor discipline it was the old fashioned missing easy trees and some of the worst shooting we've ever witnessed. Throw in our inability to handle anything above shoulder height in full-back line and it was some self destruction.
As I expected, Derry are much better than people were making them out to be and were not fazed at all. They have as good a 3 and 6 as there is about and all are good footballers. Whatever they are missing it is not talent.
I dunno where Mayo are heading? I'm still hopeful something might fall into place but on the evidence of 60mins yesterday we are rudderless in a storm. I've seen Mayo teams die before my eyes in the past and refused to accepted it until they were lowered into the ground.
What can we do to turn it around? Changes are needed and it will be interesting to see if we get any. Enough of the old guard are playing well and our poor form is not down to burnout imo. I don't get the Coen/Vaughan selection. Both will do donkey work but cant take a chance. Vaughan also being targeted for turnovers because he finds control and passing difficult. We need more pace inside and support runners to take ball off Parsons, Seamie and Aidan.
We were far better set up with McLoughlin and Diarmuid on the wings and Doc dropping deep. I'd play Cillian at 11 (we badly need a playmaker) and play a quick player like Loftus with Andy inside. When Andy tires move Cillian in to ff. Also keep Kevin Mac Away from any frees. They are killing him. Anything too far to the right should be taken quick and short.
Something has to be done. Go with the same set up again next day and we will probably get similar performance. Expecting anything else would be silly.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 02, 2017, 06:14:07 PM
Quote from: mayo.mick on July 02, 2017, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 01, 2017, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 01, 2017, 11:27:09 PM
Our shooting in the 2nd half, dear oh dear. Paddy Durcan's point to bring it back to the minimum was the key score. Seemed to calm everyone down. Hopefully it's just a one game ban for him, anyone know for sure? In his defense, he was being held and was trying to break free. Still a red card though.
What was it for?
Striking generally tends to be a 1 match ban. Durcan would be a huge loss for Mayo right now as he's one of the few players in the side who has pace at the minute.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDtilgIXYAAv52W.jpg)
I'm sure Lenny will be along shortly now to be outraged at the behaviour of his men.
Correct, that's disgusting behaviour and i couldn't condone it at all even though he's a clubmate of my own. He should miss Derry's next 2 or 3 games for that. It would be nice if you tyrone boys could condemn your disgusting behaviour when it occurs as it has done frequently over the years instead of your constant whataboutery.
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No, it seems according to you. Sure twas all the sending off, sure twill be grand the next day when we play with the full 15, twill be alright on the night
All but 4 Mayo posters are deluded here Blast.
Our goose is cooked unless SR has the balls to completely change things around (if he is let) in the next game.
Dropping SOS (use him as an impact rather than starting) and starting Coen in midfield is a start. Keeping Moran in reserve and starting either Loftus or COS (if fit). Dropping Donie (Donie might be needed for Higgins), starting Kirby. Dropping Dillion (is the medium term plan to use Dillion this year?) from the panel and bringing in Akram or Cuniffe or some other speedy U21 from last years team. Starting Lee in his position and bringing in Boyle. Putting midfielders into midfield for the throw-ins.
If some (not all) of these changes aren't made then the first Div1 team we face will knock us out. My faith is gone so I don't believe these changes will be made. In fact the cynic in me predicts Hennelly will be back the next day and that will be the only unenforced change.
We can start planning for the electric picnic this year.
At least Rochford made some changes. Speed in the forwards is still our problem.
The cause of poor shooting is that we are shooting under pressure as we aren't quick enough or don't have the skill levels to take on our markers .
Quote from: lenny on July 02, 2017, 08:16:11 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 02, 2017, 06:14:07 PM
Quote from: mayo.mick on July 02, 2017, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 01, 2017, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 01, 2017, 11:27:09 PM
Our shooting in the 2nd half, dear oh dear. Paddy Durcan's point to bring it back to the minimum was the key score. Seemed to calm everyone down. Hopefully it's just a one game ban for him, anyone know for sure? In his defense, he was being held and was trying to break free. Still a red card though.
What was it for?
Striking generally tends to be a 1 match ban. Durcan would be a huge loss for Mayo right now as he's one of the few players in the side who has pace at the minute.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDtilgIXYAAv52W.jpg)
I'm sure Lenny will be along shortly now to be outraged at the behaviour of his men.
Correct, that's disgusting behaviour and i couldn't condone it at all even though he's a clubmate of my own. He should miss Derry's next 2 or 3 games for that. It would be nice if you tyrone boys could condemn your disgusting behaviour when it occurs as it has done frequently over the years instead of your constant whataboutery.
Bit rich when you failed to condemn Enda Lynn after his dive 3 years ago.
Quote from: highorlow on July 02, 2017, 08:37:05 PM
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No, it seems according to you. Sure twas all the sending off, sure twill be grand the next day when we play with the full 15, twill be alright on the night
All but 4 Mayo posters are deluded here Blast.
Our goose is cooked unless SR has the balls to completely change things around (if he is let) in the next game.
Dropping SOS (use him as an impact rather than starting) and starting Coen in midfield is a start. Keeping Moran in reserve and starting either Loftus or COS (if fit). Dropping Donie (Donie might be needed for Higgins), starting Kirby. Dropping Dillion (is the medium term plan to use Dillion this year?) from the panel and bringing in Akram or Cuniffe or some other speedy U21 from last years team. Starting Lee in his position and bringing in Boyle. Putting midfielders into midfield for the throw-ins.
If some (not all) of these changes aren't made then the first Div1 team we face will knock us out. My faith is gone so I don't believe these changes will be made. In fact the cynic in me predicts Hennelly will be back the next day and that will be the only unenforced change.
We can start planning for the electric picnic this year.
At least Rochford made some changes. Speed in the forwards is still our problem.
The cause of poor shooting is that we are shooting under pressure as we aren't quick enough or don't have the skill levels to take on our markers .
Not sure I'd agree with that, some of the shots we missed were under no pressure in great positions. Dunno if it was pressure or lack of belief or what
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No, it seems according to you. Sure twas all the sending off, sure twill be grand the next day when we play with the full 15, twill be alright on the night
All but 4 Mayo posters are deluded here Blast.
Our goose is cooked unless SR has the balls to completely change things around (if he is let) in the next game.
Dropping SOS (use him as an impact rather than starting) and starting Coen in midfield is a start. Keeping Moran in reserve and starting either Loftus or COS (if fit). Dropping Donie (Donie might be needed for Higgins), starting Kirby. Dropping Dillion (is the medium term plan to use Dillion this year?) from the panel and bringing in Akram or Cuniffe or some other speedy U21 from last years team. Starting Lee in his position and bringing in Boyle. Putting midfielders into midfield for the throw-ins.
If some (not all) of these changes aren't made then the first Div1 team we face will knock us out. My faith is gone so I don't believe these changes will be made. In fact the cynic in me predicts Hennelly will be back the next day and that will be the only unenforced change.
We can start planning for the electric picnic this year.
At least Rochford made some changes. Speed in the forwards is still our problem.
The cause of poor shooting is that we are shooting under pressure as we aren't quick enough or don't have the skill levels to take on our markers .
Agree. You usually find that if a team's approach work is good - good quick offloads and support running and putting a man into space around the scoring area - the scores come. Also getting the most accurate players taking on the shots. One of the problems playing Coen and Vaughan at 10/12 is that they are likely to be on the end of things and taking shots on. Their susses rate is what. 50% at best from relatively easy chances. Doherty, McLoughlin (even if he had a nightmare shooting yesterday) and Diarmuid better options in those positions in every way imo.
If we go with Seamie and Tom in midfield we are going to struggle to get pace and balance into the forwards. You need to go with 6 from Doc, Diarmuid , Andy, Cillian, Loftus, Kevin Mac and Aidan.
Personally I d go with;
Seamie Parsons
Kevin Mac Cillian Diarmuid
Aidan
Andy Loftus
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Our shooting in the 2nd half, dear oh dear. Paddy Durcan's point to bring it back to the minimum was the key score. Seemed to calm everyone down. Hopefully it's just a one game ban for him, anyone know for sure? In his defense, he was being held and was trying to break free. Still a red card though.
What was it for?
Striking generally tends to be a 1 match ban. Durcan would be a huge loss for Mayo right now as he's one of the few players in the side who has pace at the minute.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDtilgIXYAAv52W.jpg)
I'm sure Lenny will be along shortly now to be outraged at the behaviour of his men.
Correct, that's disgusting behaviour and i couldn't condone it at all even though he's a clubmate of my own. He should miss Derry's next 2 or 3 games for that. It would be nice if you tyrone boys could condemn your disgusting behaviour when it occurs as it has done frequently over the years instead of your constant whataboutery.
Bit rich when you failed to condemn Enda Lynn after his dive 3 years ago.
Typical from the man who couldn't condemn mccann for his disgusting theatrical playacting. I've said it before and i'll say it again, the lynn incident wasn't clear at all from the tv coverage and the angles shown. He also didn't go to ground, he went down on one knee, completely different from mccanns repulsive actions.
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No, it seems according to you. Sure twas all the sending off, sure twill be grand the next day when we play with the full 15, twill be alright on the night
All but 4 Mayo posters are deluded here Blast.
Our goose is cooked unless SR has the balls to completely change things around (if he is let) in the next game.
Dropping SOS (use him as an impact rather than starting) and starting Coen in midfield is a start. Keeping Moran in reserve and starting either Loftus or COS (if fit). Dropping Donie (Donie might be needed for Higgins), starting Kirby. Dropping Dillion (is the medium term plan to use Dillion this year?) from the panel and bringing in Akram or Cuniffe or some other speedy U21 from last years team. Starting Lee in his position and bringing in Boyle. Putting midfielders into midfield for the throw-ins.
If some (not all) of these changes aren't made then the first Div1 team we face will knock us out. My faith is gone so I don't believe these changes will be made. In fact the cynic in me predicts Hennelly will be back the next day and that will be the only unenforced change.
We can start planning for the electric picnic this year.
At least Rochford made some changes. Speed in the forwards is still our problem.
The cause of poor shooting is that we are shooting under pressure as we aren't quick enough or don't have the skill levels to take on our markers .
Not sure I'd agree with that, some of the shots we missed were under no pressure in great positions. Dunno if it was pressure or lack of belief or what
FFS.....did you see McLaughlin. 30 yards out from goal and no one within a mile of him and him looking around for someone to pass to...,then kicked the fvckin thing wide
I've never really understood the talk about Stephen Coen all the way up from underage.
I've seen him play a fair few times now and he never really impressed me.
He seemed to lack a bit of pace and dynamism from the half back line to my eyes anyway.
Keegan Boyle Durcan are all much better players than him so he's not worthy of a spot there.
Playing him then as a forward was a bizarre decision.
Rochford has made a lot of strange calls in his time in charge so far.
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No, it seems according to you. Sure twas all the sending off, sure twill be grand the next day when we play with the full 15, twill be alright on the night
All but 4 Mayo posters are deluded here Blast.
Our goose is cooked unless SR has the balls to completely change things around (if he is let) in the next game.
Dropping SOS (use him as an impact rather than starting) and starting Coen in midfield is a start. Keeping Moran in reserve and starting either Loftus or COS (if fit). Dropping Donie (Donie might be needed for Higgins), starting Kirby. Dropping Dillion (is the medium term plan to use Dillion this year?) from the panel and bringing in Akram or Cuniffe or some other speedy U21 from last years team. Starting Lee in his position and bringing in Boyle. Putting midfielders into midfield for the throw-ins.
If some (not all) of these changes aren't made then the first Div1 team we face will knock us out. My faith is gone so I don't believe these changes will be made. In fact the cynic in me predicts Hennelly will be back the next day and that will be the only unenforced change.
We can start planning for the electric picnic this year.
At least Rochford made some changes. Speed in the forwards is still our problem.
The cause of poor shooting is that we are shooting under pressure as we aren't quick enough or don't have the skill levels to take on our markers .
Not sure I'd agree with that, some of the shots we missed were under no pressure in great positions. Dunno if it was pressure or lack of belief or what
FFS.....did you see McLaughlin. 30 yards out from goal and no one within a mile of him and him looking around for someone to pass to...,then kicked the fvckin thing wide
McLoughlin is a flaky liberal. Mayo need a few evangelicals who can kick points.
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Quote from: MayoBuck on July 01, 2017, 11:27:09 PM
Our shooting in the 2nd half, dear oh dear. Paddy Durcan's point to bring it back to the minimum was the key score. Seemed to calm everyone down. Hopefully it's just a one game ban for him, anyone know for sure? In his defense, he was being held and was trying to break free. Still a red card though.
What was it for?
Striking generally tends to be a 1 match ban. Durcan would be a huge loss for Mayo right now as he's one of the few players in the side who has pace at the minute.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDtilgIXYAAv52W.jpg)
I'm sure Lenny will be along shortly now to be outraged at the behaviour of his men.
Correct, that's disgusting behaviour and i couldn't condone it at all even though he's a clubmate of my own. He should miss Derry's next 2 or 3 games for that. It would be nice if you tyrone boys could condemn your disgusting behaviour when it occurs as it has done frequently over the years instead of your constant whataboutery.
Bit rich when you failed to condemn Enda Lynn after his dive 3 years ago.
Typical from the man who couldn't condemn mccann for his disgusting theatrical playacting. I've said it before and i'll say it again, the lynn incident wasn't clear at all from the tv coverage and the angles shown. He also didn't go to ground, he went down on one knee, completely different from mccanns repulsive actions.
Well that's a lie. I've condemned McCann in the past for his dive, all it served to do was embarrass himself. You have been asked to condemn Lynn previously and decided not to, your faux outrage was noted and pedaling untruths is your response.
Quote from: moysider on July 02, 2017, 08:10:18 PM
I'd play Cillian at 11 (we badly need a playmaker) and play a quick player like Loftus with Andy inside. When Andy tires move Cillian in to ff.
i think Loftus would be perfect at 11. See that pass to cillian. He is very accurate and rarely wastes possession. The only concern I have is that he doesn't demand the ball enough. He's a wee bit lazy aswell and I think that might be part of the reason he isn't playing as much. I remember an incident in this years league game again Roscommon. We were 6-7 points up and his marker ran up the field and am am was roaring at him to track back.
Ciaran Whelan has said about ten times now that Paddy Durcan will get a Month Ban for his Red Card! Is it a Month Ban or a One game Ban? And is Whelan playing silly beggars? Also some one tell Dessie Dolan that there was not 7 or 8 of that 2006 under 21 team playing in the first half yesterday there was 3!
Just watched the match back there, jesus some of our shooting was unbelievably bad - McLoughlin, parsons, coen & Durcan in particular. Around 53 mins, McLoughlin was running through, maybe 35m out, made to pass off to Boyle, checked, looked for another pass, nothing on so he had a pop and missed - as Tierney said, shooting seemed to be his last option. Considering the point he scored in the dying minutes in Omagh, lack of technique is not the problem.
Coen won a huge amount of kick outs, it was a clear strategy for most of our backs to pull left and coen break from deep to receive the kickout. I think he won 7-8 like that. His shooting was poor though and general play only so so.
Mcfaul's loose free kick over the sideline on around 67 mins leading directly to Durcan's point was a big turning point.
We missed some amount of goal chances, COC missed 4, Andy another 2 - at least 3 of those were clear cut.
Clarke was badly at fault for the goal, should have taken man or ball, very unlike him.
Keegan should be moved to the wing, we miss his influence going forward and our centre seems to be wide open, I don't think he's used to marking space that's needed for 6. Boyle, Vaughan or coen (long term) all better options imo.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 02, 2017, 11:46:55 PM
Ciaran Whelan has said about ten times now that Paddy Durcan will get a Month Ban for his Red Card! Is it a Month Ban or a One game Ban? And is Whelan playing silly beggars? Also some one tell Dessie Dolan that there was not 7 or 8 of that 2006 under 21 team playing in the first half yesterday there was 3!
I'm fairly sure it falls under the rule below unless there's something else but I couldn't see anything relevant when I checked
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 01, 2017, 11:44:15 PM
One match ban I'd say for a category 3 offence:
Category III Infractions 5.15 To strike or to attempt to strike an opponent with arm, elbow, hand or knee.
Category III (i) (ii) Minimum - A One Match Suspension in the same Code and at the same Level, applicable to the next game in the same Competition, even if that game occurs in the following year.
Mayo's shooting was absolutely terrible and should have had the game out of sight.
Was only going to be one winner once it went to ET.
The photo of the gouging looks terrible.
Whelan is acting the bollix after what happened to DC. Would be some craic if Rochford came out with a bleating statement and introduced a media ban as Durcan's good name had been besmirched.
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Quote from: MayoBuck on July 01, 2017, 11:27:09 PM
Our shooting in the 2nd half, dear oh dear. Paddy Durcan's point to bring it back to the minimum was the key score. Seemed to calm everyone down. Hopefully it's just a one game ban for him, anyone know for sure? In his defense, he was being held and was trying to break free. Still a red card though.
What was it for?
Striking generally tends to be a 1 match ban. Durcan would be a huge loss for Mayo right now as he's one of the few players in the side who has pace at the minute.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDtilgIXYAAv52W.jpg)
I'm sure Lenny will be along shortly now to be outraged at the behaviour of his men.
Correct, that's disgusting behaviour and i couldn't condone it at all even though he's a clubmate of my own. He should miss Derry's next 2 or 3 games for that. It would be nice if you tyrone boys could condemn your disgusting behaviour when it occurs as it has done frequently over the years instead of your constant whataboutery.
Bit rich when you failed to condemn Enda Lynn after his dive 3 years ago.
Typical from the man who couldn't condemn mccann for his disgusting theatrical playacting. I've said it before and i'll say it again, the lynn incident wasn't clear at all from the tv coverage and the angles shown. He also didn't go to ground, he went down on one knee, completely different from mccanns repulsive actions.
Well that's a lie. I've condemned McCann in the past for his dive, all it served to do was embarrass himself. You have been asked to condemn Lynn previously and decided not to, your faux outrage was noted and pedaling untruths is your response.
Lads Compareing This to diving is just stupid
is it any wonder Diarmuid connoly feels hard done by . if that picture was in the papers of him gouging he'd get a 6 month ban and miles of newsprint condemning him . but as derry are out and no longer news nobody esp RTE care what he did. they say they don't have footage , so that's that them .
now lets see if the CCCC etc are really independent or just a PR Committee reacting to the Sunday game
Quote from: galwayman on July 02, 2017, 09:08:15 PM
I've never really understood the talk about Stephen Coen all the way up from underage.
I've seen him play a fair few times now and he never really impressed me.
He seemed to lack a bit of pace and dynamism from the half back line to my eyes anyway.
Keegan Boyle Durcan are all much better players than him so he's not worthy of a spot there.
Playing him then as a forward was a bizarre decision.
Rochford has made a lot of strange calls in his time in charge so far.
Coen is still a work in progress at senior level but if you watched last years U21 final alone you'd understand what he brings. He was immense that day and his leadership qualities, intelligence and good use of the ball are what set him apart from most. I think he'll be a top class number 6 one day but he's not ready yet it seems. Playing him at wing forward doesn't allow him to show what he does best but it's all part of his learning and development, he isn't a flyer and he's not a finisher but he's a good ball winner and reads breaks well. We're crying out for blooding new lads in in Mayo, well playing Coen (slightly out of position) is part of that. I don't think we'll see him playing wing forward if we reach Croke Park though.
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Quote from: MayoBuck on July 01, 2017, 11:27:09 PM
Our shooting in the 2nd half, dear oh dear. Paddy Durcan's point to bring it back to the minimum was the key score. Seemed to calm everyone down. Hopefully it's just a one game ban for him, anyone know for sure? In his defense, he was being held and was trying to break free. Still a red card though.
What was it for?
Striking generally tends to be a 1 match ban. Durcan would be a huge loss for Mayo right now as he's one of the few players in the side who has pace at the minute.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDtilgIXYAAv52W.jpg)
I'm sure Lenny will be along shortly now to be outraged at the behaviour of his men.
Correct, that's disgusting behaviour and i couldn't condone it at all even though he's a clubmate of my own. He should miss Derry's next 2 or 3 games for that. It would be nice if you tyrone boys could condemn your disgusting behaviour when it occurs as it has done frequently over the years instead of your constant whataboutery.
Bit rich when you failed to condemn Enda Lynn after his dive 3 years ago.
Typical from the man who couldn't condemn mccann for his disgusting theatrical playacting. I've said it before and i'll say it again, the lynn incident wasn't clear at all from the tv coverage and the angles shown. He also didn't go to ground, he went down on one knee, completely different from mccanns repulsive actions.
Well that's a lie. I've condemned McCann in the past for his dive, all it served to do was embarrass himself. You have been asked to condemn Lynn previously and decided not to, your faux outrage was noted and pedaling untruths is your response.
Lads Compareing This to diving is just stupid
is it any wonder Diarmuid connoly feels hard done by . if that picture was in the papers of him gouging he'd get a 6 month ban and miles of newsprint condemning him . but as derry are out and no longer news nobody esp RTE care what he did. they say they don't have footage , so that's that them .
now lets see if the CCCC etc are really independent or just a PR Committee reacting to the Sunday game
Isn't it the case that photo evidence is not permitted in a review by CCCC and that only video evidence is permitted to be used?
If that is the case and if there is no footage, what are the CCCC supposed to do?
I agree the photo looks terrible.
Eye gouging seems to be creeping into the game and needs to be clamped down on asap!
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Quote from: MayoBuck on July 01, 2017, 11:27:09 PM
Our shooting in the 2nd half, dear oh dear. Paddy Durcan's point to bring it back to the minimum was the key score. Seemed to calm everyone down. Hopefully it's just a one game ban for him, anyone know for sure? In his defense, he was being held and was trying to break free. Still a red card though.
What was it for?
Striking generally tends to be a 1 match ban. Durcan would be a huge loss for Mayo right now as he's one of the few players in the side who has pace at the minute.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDtilgIXYAAv52W.jpg)
I'm sure Lenny will be along shortly now to be outraged at the behaviour of his men.
Correct, that's disgusting behaviour and i couldn't condone it at all even though he's a clubmate of my own. He should miss Derry's next 2 or 3 games for that. It would be nice if you tyrone boys could condemn your disgusting behaviour when it occurs as it has done frequently over the years instead of your constant whataboutery.
Bit rich when you failed to condemn Enda Lynn after his dive 3 years ago.
Typical from the man who couldn't condemn mccann for his disgusting theatrical playacting. I've said it before and i'll say it again, the lynn incident wasn't clear at all from the tv coverage and the angles shown. He also didn't go to ground, he went down on one knee, completely different from mccanns repulsive actions.
Well that's a lie. I've condemned McCann in the past for his dive, all it served to do was embarrass himself. You have been asked to condemn Lynn previously and decided not to, your faux outrage was noted and pedaling untruths is your response.
Lads Compareing This to diving is just stupid
is it any wonder Diarmuid connoly feels hard done by . if that picture was in the papers of him gouging he'd get a 6 month ban and miles of newsprint condemning him . but as derry are out and no longer news nobody esp RTE care what he did. they say they don't have footage , so that's that them .
now lets see if the CCCC etc are really independent or just a PR Committee reacting to the Sunday game
Isn't it the case that photo evidence is not permitted in a review by CCCC and that only video evidence is permitted to be used?
If that is the case and if there is no footage, what are the CCCC supposed to do?
I agree the photo looks terrible.
Eye gouging seems to be creeping into the game and needs to be clamped down on asap!
Yes, and rightly so. A still photo is not evidence of any action.
I honestly thought after 65 minutes that that was the end of the road. Wides galore, afraid to take the shot on, hitting the post and bar 4 or 5 times... Fair play to Loftus for taking a superb goal so soon after coming on.
Not sure et will have brought Mayo on tbh. It might be a downfall, playing extra minutes, Durcan getting a stupud red, Keegan hobbling off. Performance MUST improve in the forwards, not sure if it will though. Full back is a worry again. Seems to be back at square one there. Still in it, just...