Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

Started by BennyCake, September 09, 2014, 12:47:26 PM

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PadraicHenryPearse

i've said it before but there is no point in keeping on changing the existing structures unless you know the outcome you want. hacks don't work.

what are the objectives and priorities of the changes? what do we want the gaa intercounty schedule to look like?

time for club and county fixtures at same time or not
more games against similar opposition
provisional championship system
min-max number of games per team
every team with a chance to win all ireland or not
seperate league and championship or not.
most profitable or most appealing to supporters
concurrent championship league or not

when you answer those type of questions and list them by priority then you can deliver a gaa season that meets its agree priorities and objectives.

think we have gone off topic.....

Rossfan

Off topic is right but Clubs/Counties have the Fixtures Review Committee proposals on front of them.
So over to them.
As for the forward mark... if it's to be kept it should be for an overhead catch inside the 20 and kicked from outside the 45.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

magpie seanie

Quote from: Rossfan on February 20, 2020, 11:42:37 AM
Off topic is right but Clubs/Counties have the Fixtures Review Committee proposals on front of them.
So over to them.
As for the forward mark... if it's to be kept it should be for an overhead catch inside the 20 and kicked from outside the 45.

To be fair the Fixtures Review Committee did a pretty good job. The review is well worth a read to understand the complexities involved. I think the proposals are pretty good in the main. Think they have outlined where they want to get to and how they propose to get there.

Unfortunately, I'd say the level of review at club and even county level isn't adequate.

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

magpie seanie

Yes, it is. The GAA does lots wrong and sometimes when it does things right it gets the communication wrong. It's unfortunate and adds to the feeling of alienation most regular GAA players/officials/supporters have.

Main Street

Quote from: twohands!!! on February 19, 2020, 11:09:37 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 19, 2020, 10:38:58 PM
Okay, the advanced mark is 15 secs and  your everyday plain mark is still 5 seconds.
Both still don't constitute a break in play so that a substitution can be made,  do they?

Nope 15 seconds for all marks now.

If the player opts to play on, its not a break in play and substitutions aren't allowed.
If the player stops and takes the kick, it is a break in play and substitutions are allowed.

Quote2: For all marks (the advance mark and the kickout mark) the following provisions apply; the player will now be allowed 15 seconds to take the mark (it was 5 seconds previously). The opposing players must retreat 13m (it was 10m previously).

https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/guide-to-new-the-gaelic-football-playing-rules/
Thanks twohands, well explained.
Somehow the reports on the decision to change from 5 seconds to 15 seconds completely passed me by.

When it comes to timekeeping, in that not enough talked about recent Monaghan Dublin encounter, ref Brannigan rightly stopped his clock in added time  for disciplinary issues  and the one injury. Twice  he restarts play and presumably his clock also starts ticking again. On those 2 restart occcasions,  Beggan took a kickout and secondly took a 50m free. From the time the ref indicates the restart, did Beggan still have his  20 or 30 seconds alloted to take each kick?

BennyCake

What's the deal with the forward mark and having to signal with the hand that you intend to take the free?

Seen it last week with Kildare where player lost the free kick from the mark because he didn't signal with the hand.

Also, can a player signal that he's taking the free from the mark, then play on or pass to a team mate? Or once signalled, he must take it?

rosnarun

Quote from: BennyCake on March 09, 2020, 04:25:50 PM
What’s the deal with the forward mark and having to signal with the hand that you intend to take the free?

Seen it last week with Kildare where player lost the free kick from the mark because he didn’t signal with the hand.

Also, can a player signal that he’s taking the free from the mark, then play on or pass to a team mate? Or once signalled, he must take it?
qas long as he kicks it is that not the mark taken or does it have to travel a minimum distance?
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere

Milltown Row2

Quote from: BennyCake on March 09, 2020, 04:25:50 PM
What's the deal with the forward mark and having to signal with the hand that you intend to take the free?

Seen it last week with Kildare where player lost the free kick from the mark because he didn't signal with the hand.

Also, can a player signal that he's taking the free from the mark, then play on or pass to a team mate? Or once signalled, he must take it?

The ref will blow for the forward mark, it's up to the player to signal and stop (within reason) yesterday example in a challenge game I did, the players made the mark sorta thought about a pass but settled and took the score,  had he passed the ball then it's continued play. Had he taken a few more steps then that's continued play. If he raises his hand calls mark he should kick for a score
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea


BennyCake

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2020, 07:06:49 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on March 09, 2020, 04:25:50 PM
What's the deal with the forward mark and having to signal with the hand that you intend to take the free?

Seen it last week with Kildare where player lost the free kick from the mark because he didn't signal with the hand.

Also, can a player signal that he's taking the free from the mark, then play on or pass to a team mate? Or once signalled, he must take it?

The ref will blow for the forward mark, it's up to the player to signal and stop (within reason) yesterday example in a challenge game I did, the players made the mark sorta thought about a pass but settled and took the score,  had he passed the ball then it's continued play. Had he taken a few more steps then that's continued play. If he raises his hand calls mark he should kick for a score

Should, or has to?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: BennyCake on March 09, 2020, 11:23:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2020, 07:06:49 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on March 09, 2020, 04:25:50 PM
What's the deal with the forward mark and having to signal with the hand that you intend to take the free?

Seen it last week with Kildare where player lost the free kick from the mark because he didn't signal with the hand.

Also, can a player signal that he's taking the free from the mark, then play on or pass to a team mate? Or once signalled, he must take it?

The ref will blow for the forward mark, it's up to the player to signal and stop (within reason) yesterday example in a challenge game I did, the players made the mark sorta thought about a pass but settled and took the score,  had he passed the ball then it's continued play. Had he taken a few more steps then that's continued play. If he raises his hand calls mark he should kick for a score

Should, or has to?

Has too
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

The Bearded One

Not the case. You don't have to shoot for a score, you can pass to another teammate but they can't call a mark from this.
It is what it is. Presumably.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: The Bearded One on March 10, 2020, 12:20:16 AM
Not the case. You don't have to shoot for a score, you can pass to another teammate but they can't call a mark from this.

Sorry your right, what I meant was he has to play the ball within the time, can't be a second mark though
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

The Bearded One

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 10, 2020, 07:20:02 AM
Quote from: The Bearded One on March 10, 2020, 12:20:16 AM
Not the case. You don't have to shoot for a score, you can pass to another teammate but they can't call a mark from this.

Sorry your right, what I meant was he has to play the ball within the time, can't be a second mark though

Can't wait for the club leagues to start  8)
It is what it is. Presumably.