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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: Today at 04:33:25 PM »
Also is it just me being paranoid or on occasions like this do people use social media to hype up how amazing their family are.

Since Cookstown I've seen numerous family photographs with hold them tight etc etc....as if somehow glorifying their circumstances.

Maybe its just me!

Don't bother with facebook for reasons close enough to this. Such a false social media tool - Good for keeping in touch if you live abroad, that's about it.

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: Today at 03:13:22 PM »
Actually disgusted to see people creating social media profiles of the dead today in the Irish News. I actually had to read it twice.

Unbelievable. No idea why someone would do that. So depressing to think this is what someone is doing in their spare time.

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General discussion / Re: The Official UFC Thread
« on: Today at 03:08:09 PM »
Good riddance.

From (seemingly) humble beginnings, he turned into a parody of himself at the end and ended up showing the world that he was, in truth, a bit of a sc**bag.

+1

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: Today at 12:17:25 PM »
Ronan had some memorable moments and deserves credit for his commitment.Could bounce back again lmo.

Lovely footballer - maybe swallowed up by the physiques of modern defenders at intercounty level - will torture club players in division one this year.

That said, he didn't do himself justice this year, he clearly wasn't in shape early on.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: March 25, 2019, 03:21:44 PM »
Morgan is an excellent keeper - right up there with Cluxton and Beggan.

He's come along way and is a lot more mature in terms of play and attitude than when he started.

He's pretty much the go to blame guy these days which I find strange. I can only imagine it's somewhat led by old school - stay on your line traditionalists.

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General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: March 25, 2019, 12:54:41 PM »
If Zebo was to be recalled for World Cup it would be at full back and the issue would now be his fitness. Since going to France his body shape has changed and his fitness will have reduced to that found in the Top 14. He would need to be pulled into the Irish squad system and conditioned to the level of the existing players.

Despite the hype over the last couple of years about the depth of talent available in Irish rugby its not that great.

Injuries that will be inevitable during the world cup have had an effect on the team selection for the 6 nations.

Making Kearney your first choice full back denies the wingers the ball needed to be a real attacking force.  Kearney's default move is to hold the ball and then run at an angle into the centre while ignoring the winger on the outside.

Go on....say what you mean, he's fat. He's about 5-6kg overweight. Easy lost if your leaading the right lifestyle.

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General discussion / Re: Maddie McCann
« on: March 21, 2019, 12:47:55 PM »
Going to watch the first few eps of this tonight - been reading the comments here on it, don't see much mention of the Irish family, the Smiths, presumably they don't appear? Have they ever spoke in public afterwards on this ?

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 21, 2019, 11:40:35 AM »
There are conflicting reports if the owner was arrested for manslaughter or corporate manslaughter.

I'm not entirely sure, but if the former - this drugs fiasco has surely thrown out the possibility of a conviction being obtained, any defence worth it's salt will ensure that over this there'll be no fair trial.

As in there will be more sympathy for the owner and more suspicion of the authorities?

In general - assuming it went to trial of course - this is just me assuming. This drugs thing has created an almost disbelieving hysteria as opposed to what it should be, tragic regret on the loss of life - it would bring an element of unfair trial if it did get to that stage I would assume.

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GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
« on: March 21, 2019, 09:45:36 AM »
Had Tyrone gone long as much in the games against Cavan & Monaghan as they did on Saturday night?

No, we are hoping Saturday is a watershed moment - he caught Dublin....and everyone off guard.

Remains to be seen if Harte will follow that up against Galway with something on the line. Somehow I suspect he'll revert to type and it'll be hell on Sunday.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: March 21, 2019, 09:22:42 AM »
Good luck to Cathal going forward - can only hope that he keeps on the straight and narrow now intercounty football has finished for him.

Good player - could have been so, so much more but there was a different fight for him during his sporting peak.

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 21, 2019, 09:20:56 AM »
There are conflicting reports if the owner was arrested for manslaughter or corporate manslaughter.

I'm not entirely sure, but if the former - this drugs fiasco has surely thrown out the possibility of a conviction being obtained, any defence worth it's salt will ensure that over this there'll be no fair trial.

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 20, 2019, 10:56:36 PM »
Not sure if already mentioned but surely the police have to be held accountable here. The dogs on the street knew about underage drinking at the greenvale this past 20 years.

Ah look, I'm no lover of the police but they've more important things to be at than a weekly raid of every bar in every town in the country. It is what it is. The police can't be held accountable for young ones getting steamed before they even set foot in/on a premises. Simply can't be done - the horse has bolted on that. It's simply unavoidable at this stage - I mean I've seen police shut down bars in Dungannon/Cookstown and Omagh over Easter Sunday but bar that - that's it. They simply don't have the numbers for what is a task that is well, well down the list.

I don't mean that to sound in any way disrespectful to the victims - nor do I intend to cause offence but whilst I get your point, what realistically can be done bar forming local groups and policing the matter themselves? Maybe that's something they talk of at these policing board meetings (do they even happen anymore?) I couldn't tell you.

Then what do the police think their job is? If they're not going to do it then what's the point in having them?

Vigilante groups is hardly the answer.

I didn't say it wasn't their job, I said they have much bigger issues to deal with versus an obvious lack of resources to do so

So like you or I would do in our weekly workload you prioritize accordingly, I'm sure no Chief Inspector tortures the rank and file about lifting underage drinking.

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 20, 2019, 09:19:45 PM »
Not sure if already mentioned but surely the police have to be held accountable here. The dogs on the street knew about underage drinking at the greenvale this past 20 years.

Ah look, I'm no lover of the police but they've more important things to be at than a weekly raid of every bar in every town in the country. It is what it is. The police can't be held accountable for young ones getting steamed before they even set foot in/on a premises. Simply can't be done - the horse has bolted on that. It's simply unavoidable at this stage - I mean I've seen police shut down bars in Dungannon/Cookstown and Omagh over Easter Sunday but bar that - that's it. They simply don't have the numbers for what is a task that is well, well down the list.

I don't mean that to sound in any way disrespectful to the victims - nor do I intend to cause offence but whilst I get your point, what realistically can be done bar forming local groups and policing the matter themselves? Maybe that's something they talk of at these policing board meetings (do they even happen anymore?) I couldn't tell you.

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 20, 2019, 06:16:12 PM »
He has been dearrested now, what a shambles from the Police. Have they no compassion for the families of the kids?

A very serious issue has descended into farce.


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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 20, 2019, 05:17:50 PM »
Kid drinking would have a lot to do with it.  Gross negligence may be the cause or may not, but its as likely that the cause was those who were pushing the crowd forward for what they probably thought was a bit of craic.

There's alot of nervous teenagers knowing full well what they did, waiting on a knock on the door.

I don't understand this train of thought.... in fact I think its disgusting/disgraceful. This is the type of rhetoric that was coming from the Sun news paper after the hillsborough disaster:

'drunken fans'
'people pushing at the back new they where killing people'

These children have been let down .... end of.

I know Mickey McElhatton to be a nice man and will be heartbroken about this... in my opinion he has been let down by his door staff.
If youíve ever queued to get in to a nightclub youíll know theres always an element of pushing and shoving, people get caught up and think its great craic, except this time itís tragically gone too far. None of the lads at the back who were pushing set put to hurt anyone of course and Iím sure they are feeling absolutely horrible about whats happened.

This is exactly what has happened for me. On the head. Tragic accident that's got out of hand and looks to be great craic completely unknowingly the root cause.

As for the drugs thing - it's a house owned by McElhatton....it's not his own home house.  EDIT - This is what I heard, not proven fact.

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